67 Palestinian and 7 Israeli Civilians Killed in Conflict

[Samudera Darussalam]

I'd make a joke about this not sounding terribly different from Ernst Roehm, but I reached my bulli quota a little earlier today off-site.

I mean I would be lying if I didn't appreciate some specific aspects of NatSoc(masculinity, etc etc), but the same could be said for green energy politics etc etc

but were individuals and have so many more views than that.

I mean with the behavior of Israel historically, we shouldn't base our treatment of Jewish people around this.

That's going to be a long road in parts of the world, I'm afraid. Afaik in Indonesia, some of its antisemitism come from the idea that Jews = Israelis, and Israel is a disliked entity, to put it mildly.

Actually, you see, that hospital wasn't actually a hospital, it was a giant Hamas R&D unit.

A Hamas-tipal, if you will.

I feel like I shouldn't laugh, but here I am.
RIP to the hospital though.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Gazan health services curtailed after Israeli airstrikes hit clinics, hospitals, and doctors

Israeli strikes on Gaza have damaged health facilities, killed two prominent Palestinian doctors, and destroyed roads around the strip’s largest hospital, Gaza health officials and international rights groups have claimed. The latest bombardment was so intense, it has impacted the ability of medics to treat the wounded, health officials added.[...]According to international medical charity Medicins Sans Frontieres (MSF), Israeli shelling damaged one of its clinics, which had been providing treatment for trauma and burns.

It has left the sterilisation room “unusable”, and means MSF’s staff, who are staying nearby, cannot safely access the clinics where they work, a MSF staffer added. Meanwhile Gaza’s health ministry said that two senior medics had been killed overnight.

It said airstrikes on Gaza City killed Dr Ayman Abu al-Ouf, head of the internal medicine department and coronavirus response at Gaza’s largest hospital al-Shifa, as well as Dr Moein Ahmad al-Aloul, one of Gaza’s few neurologists, who died along with his 5 children.

Gaza’s health ministry also reported damage by indirect fire to Beit Hanoun Hospital and Shohada Daraj medical centre, as well as to roads leading to al-Shifa hospital.

Photos shared of the area surrounding the strip’s main medical centre showed roads with large craters. International medics on the ground confirmed to The Independent that streets had been hit.

The Independent reached out to the Israeli military but was unable to get an immediate response. However senior army officials have repeatedly claimed to do everything in their power to minimise civilian casualties and damage to civilian infrastructure, including deploying early warning systems for major targets like tower blocks and assessing the potential for collateral damage before each strike.

MSF said it was not given prior warning of the shelling, which has damaged the charity’s ability to respond to the humanitarian crisis in the blockaded enclave.

“We won’t be able to sterilise the tools for dressing burns in al-Shifa hospital,” Ely Sok, MSF’s head of mission in Palestine, told The Independent. Now we can’t, as it was completely destroyed, we have to think about how we can manage that.”

He said it was difficult to launch a medical response because the bombardment made movement unsafe.

“They shelled streets near al-Shifa hospital and where the clinics are, so internal transportation is not easy even for ambulances. Everything is really complicated now,” he added.

He said that MSF would have expected prior warning of the strike which damaged their clinic so that they could make sure no one was present, as Israel has the GPS coordinates of all their facilities.

Gaza’s health ministry said :”Israeli aeroplanes targeted and blocked the roads leading to al-Shifa Hospital in Gaza and various hospitals in Gaza. These attacks impede regular patient movements, and prevent the wounded from obtaining health services.”

For a military that supposedly does all it can to minimize civilian casualties, it's "oddly" disproportionately killing women and children.

"We're doing our very best to minimize civilian casualties."

-Tojo on the Japanese war effort.

[Kowani]

Actually, you see, that hospital wasn't actually a hospital, it was a giant Hamas R&D unit.

A Hamas-tipal, if you will.

wait that's actually funny

[Immortan Khan]

For a military that supposedly does all it can to minimize civilian casualties, it's "oddly" disproportionately killing women and children.

"We're doing our very best to minimize civilian casualties."

-Tojo on the Japanese war effort.

Honestly at this rate I hope the Iranians get the bomb.

[Muzehnaya]

Actually, you see, that hospital wasn't actually a hospital, it was a giant Hamas R&D unit.

A Hamas-tipal, if you will.

I can't even...

[Borderlands of Rojava]

"We're doing our very best to minimize civilian casualties."

-Tojo on the Japanese war effort.

Honestly at this rate I hope the Iranians get the bomb.

I feel that way sometimes too. You know I remember back when Trump was trying to start shit with them in early 2020 and they didn't react and I thought "it's bad that the sharia state is acting less psychotic and violent than an alleged liberal democracy. We're like 'Iran if you try us we will fucking kill you' and Iran was silent."

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Actually, you see, that hospital wasn't actually a hospital, it was a giant Hamas R&D unit.

A Hamas-tipal, if you will.

The doctor and patient are both Hamas, so the doctor has on a headscarf-mask but he has a white coat too.

"Doctor is Abdul going to be alright?"

"As a medical doctor with 20 years under my belt, I can safely say your brother is lucky to be alive after his bomb lab exploded before the explosives could be safely converted into suicide vests. He should thank Allah for his good fortune. All he'll need is some ibuprofen and muscle relaxants. I'll write him a prescription and send it to Al-Jihad pharmacy in Gaza...so like just down the street."

[Fahran]

Honestly at this rate I hope the Iranians get the bomb.

Iran has done quite a lot to destabilize the region as well, and their leadership has probably contributed to more indirect deaths than Israel has in recent years. I think giving them support is a bit like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

[Nakena]

Honestly at this rate I hope the Iranians get the bomb.

What would that change? Iran is Iran even if occupied itself by the disgusting Mullahs. Palestine isn't really their primary business to begin with and its only sometimes coming up.

Most of Hamas money comes from Qatar.

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

Joe Biden did not react to the Israeli government's persecution of Muslims.The only thing the US government does is to fuel the policy of enmity in the region with a history of lies. I hope filsitin and Israeli citizens no longer suffer from this ridiculous religious war.

Joe Biden is a coward and his usual radical centrism has taken a turn for the worse during this, trying to draw an equivalency between rando terrorists firing glorified fireworks at a state protected by a defense system and a police state committing racist abuse against people living within its borders and attacking the free press.

Joe Biden is just a name because America's foreign policy never changes, they derive the power to see themselves as the world police from the blood-stained guns they produce and their investments. Make Armenians and Turks enemies in the Middle East. Continue to sell weapons to a state like Israel, cooperate with terrorism in the Arab world, typical america. The Middle East belongs to the people of the Middle East, not the state of America.

[Herzpunkt]

Joe Biden is a coward and his usual radical centrism has taken a turn for the worse during this, trying to draw an equivalency between rando terrorists firing glorified fireworks at a state protected by a defense system and a police state committing racist abuse against people living within its borders and attacking the free press.

Joe Biden is just a name because America's foreign policy never changes, they derive the power to see themselves as the world police from the blood-stained guns they produce and their investments. Make Armenians and Turks enemies in the Middle East. Continue to sell weapons to a state like Israel, cooperate with terrorism in the Arab world, typical america. The Middle East belongs to the people of the Middle East, not the state of America.

Middle east for middle easterners

I like it

[Muzehnaya]

Also, the thread title is outdated. Latest civilian casualties are 188 Palestinians and 10 Israelis (as per the hospital article Kowani posted).

[Herzpunkt]

Also, the thread title is outdated. Latest civilian casualties are 188 Palestinians and 10 Israelis (as per the hospital article Kowani posted).

And indian woman was also killed

[Muzehnaya]

Also, the thread title is outdated. Latest civilian casualties are 188 Palestinians and 10 Israelis (as per the hospital article Kowani posted).

And indian woman was also killed

Aye, I think I remember seeing an article on that sometime back. Unless something happened more recently?

[Herzpunkt]

And indian woman was also killed

Aye, I think I remember seeing an article on that sometime back. Unless something happened more recently?

Soumya Santosh

[Muzehnaya]

Aye, I think I remember seeing an article on that sometime back. Unless something happened more recently?

Soumya Santosh

Ah yeah, that was who I was thinking of.

[Jutlop]

Also, the thread title is outdated. Latest civilian casualties are 188 Palestinians and 10 Israelis (as per the hospital article Kowani posted).

and one idf soldier was killed by an anti tank weapon

[The Lone Alliance]

Middle east for middle easterners
I like it

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum indirectly wants Turkey to take control of the entire middle east.
Just Replace America with Turkey with the same side effects. The proxy wars will continue, the hate will continue, but it'll all be done to prop up Turkey power instead of American power.

So not much better.

[Vassenor]

So the NYT is breaking out the passive voice again.

[Muzehnaya]

So the NYT is breaking out the passive voice again.

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Do you have a link to this article?

EDIT: Nevermind, I found it. It's dated to 5 days ago.

[Jutlop]

So the NYT is breaking out the passive voice again.

(Image)

I don't know much but I don't think an israeli soldier counts as a civillian

[Vassenor]

So the NYT is breaking out the passive voice again.

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I don't know much but I don't think an israeli soldier counts as a civillian

Missing comma, I think. Should probably be "six Israeli civilians, including a 5 year old boy, and one soldier".

[Jutlop]

I don't know much but I don't think an israeli soldier counts as a civillian

Missing comma, I think. Should probably be "six Israeli civilians, including a 5 year old boy, and one soldier".

I think that's intentional

[G-Tech Corporation]

Found some interesting statistics for those who seem to be claiming that Israel is deliberately targeting civilians as a matter of military policy: civilian casualty ratios. During the Chechen Wars, Russia averaged 8.9 civilians killed for every militant. The UN effort in Kosovo had a ratio of more like 4:1. The Iraq War had a ratio of 3:1. Estimates for various points in the Palestinian conflict have ranged as high as 1:30, however, and only ever as low as 1:1.

Thoughts? Discuss?

[Washington Resistance Army]

Found some interesting statistics for those who seem to be claiming that Israel is deliberately targeting civilians as a matter of military policy: civilian casualty ratios. During the Chechen Wars, Russia averaged 8.9 civilians killed for every militant. The UN effort in Kosovo had a ratio of more like 4:1. The Iraq War had a ratio of 3:1. Estimates for various points in the Palestinian conflict have ranged as high as 1:30, however, and only ever as low as 1:1.

Thoughts? Discuss?

At a glance it'd seem to have no basis in reality given every time one of these things the majority of Palestinian casualties seem to be random families just caught up in the airstrikes.

Like, 40+ Palestinians were bombed to shit earlier and 16 of them were kids who presumably were not grizzled militants.