2021 Syrian Presidential Elections

[Dowaesk]

Why bow down to Assad when you can simply go ahead with negotiations without the extra drama. I myself am a strong supporter of Syrian Turkmen, but apologising? What for? And also Political Islamists is irrevelant here as of right now.
Refugees in Greece? There are refugees everywhere. Why did you have the feeling to mention that. We are talking about Turkey's participation here. No need to bring in Greece.

I don't understand what he's got in for political Islamists. Turkey and ISIS are best of friends, and the rebels in Syria aren't Islamist, so he's not making sense if he means refugees from ISIS's and the FSA's actions.

Its unfair to compare Turkey and ISIS. Turkey has done a very good job in my opinion (even with the influence of Russia and Iran). Turkey did good dealing with terrorists in Syria. Not as good as US but its still an achievement. And as for FSA, i dont think they did much of a good job. They failed. Its dead.

[Chan Island]

These elections will obviously be a complete sham, but who's gonna care? To the victor, the spoils. Anybody who had a problem with the Assad regime is either dead, in prison, abroad or praying for a fucking miracle in Idlib (coincidentally, Idlib just got their first covid vaccines but I digress.)


Will it be bad for Syria? Yeah, probably. But 10 years of warfare have passed, the country's already hit rock bottom, so I actually expect the place to become somewhat better in the next 10 years. Hopefully the country can heal, rebuild and find a way to move on from this horrendous, barbarous violence.

[Islamic Holy Sites]

I don't understand what he's got in for political Islamists. Turkey and ISIS are best of friends, and the rebels in Syria aren't Islamist, so he's not making sense if he means refugees from ISIS's and the FSA's actions.

Its unfair to compare Turkey and ISIS. Turkey has done a very good job in my opinion (even with the influence of Russia and Iran). Turkey did good dealing with terrorists in Syria. Not as good as US but its still an achievement. And as for FSA, i dont think they did much of a good job. They failed. Its dead.

'Not as good as the US' is not a compliment. Whenever the US tries to stamp out a group (many of which it had funded in the beginning) they become bigger. They need to wreck a whole country to rid it of the group, then the group returns. If you do worse than that, well, I don't see that country's skill in removing terrorists.

[Dowaesk]

Why cant America put some of their money away from Israel and into some country like Syria in return for peace deals. It would make more sense than to keep funding Israel with nothing in return. Even if you dont get anything from aiding Syria, atleast you'll be saving lives. We cant see it, but out there, there will be a child grateful to have been able to satisfy their daily needs and not starve or freeze to death in winter. Humanity above profit.

[Dowaesk]

Its unfair to compare Turkey and ISIS. Turkey has done a very good job in my opinion (even with the influence of Russia and Iran). Turkey did good dealing with terrorists in Syria. Not as good as US but its still an achievement. And as for FSA, i dont think they did much of a good job. They failed. Its dead.

'Not as good as the US' is not a compliment. Whenever the US tries to stamp out a group (many of which it had funded in the beginning) they become bigger. They need to wreck a whole country to rid it of the group, then the group returns. If you do worse than that, well, I don't see that country's skill in removing terrorists.

True, but you gotta admit. Battle for Ar-Raqqah was impressive. Even though the Syrian Dem forces played a bigger role. They couldnt have done it without the US (dont get me wrong. Im not a US fan)

[Nakena]

Why cant America put some of their money away from Israel and into some country like Syria in return for peace deals.

Because Syria does not have a strong lobby as Israel in the US. Amongst other reasons.

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

Justice cannot be mentioned in an election where there is a candidate receiving 80% or more votes. just like the 1991 Nagorno-Karabakh so-called independence referendum.

Are you aware of refugees in Greece and Turkey? Political Islamists should apologize not only to the Syrian but also to the Turkish nation. The blood of the Turkish soldier is in the hands of political Islamists. Our war should have been with terrorism, not with Syria. The Syrian army and the Turkish army must pull the Syrian Turkmen Brigades to their side and fight a real fight against terrorism. You have made your side clear by asking the US government to be in Syria.

You are saying that the Myanmar president's (now under house arrest) victory of over 80% wasn't actually real, it was faked?

I am saying that these votes are not fair, I am talking about the high probability of corruption.

Justice cannot be mentioned in an election where there is a candidate receiving 80% or more votes. just like the 1991 Nagorno-Karabakh so-called independence referendum.

Are you aware of refugees in Greece and Turkey? Political Islamists should apologize not only to the Syrian but also to the Turkish nation. The blood of the Turkish soldier is in the hands of political Islamists. Our war should have been with terrorism, not with Syria. The Syrian army and the Turkish army must pull the Syrian Turkmen Brigades to their side and fight a real fight against terrorism. You have made your side clear by asking the US government to be in Syria.

Why bow down to Assad when you can simply go ahead with negotiations without the extra drama. I myself am a strong supporter of Syrian Turkmen, but apologising? What for? And also Political Islamists is irrevelant here as of right now.
Refugees in Greece? There are refugees everywhere. Why did you have the feeling to mention that. We are talking about Turkey's participation here. No need to bring in Greece.

Assad is wrong with his anti-democratic behavior, but he is right in protecting his country against imperialists.Countries that support FSA and YPG should apologize to Syria. While acting fairly while defending the territorial integrity of Azerbaijan, justice cannot be provided by supporting terrorists in Syria. Based on the Syrian policy, the Turk political Islamists did not really wholeheartedly support the just cause of our Azerbaijani brothers. If you fight terrorism for votes, this is the result. terror will not end, your vote will not increase. The refugees are living in Turkey with Turkish citizens tax. There are Syrians returning to their country during Ramadan, so I think Syria is safe for them.

[Vivolkha]

During the war, Assad's regime has gone further down its pariah status by commiting war crimes and becoming even more corrupt. The 2021 election will be held, but it will be even more of a joke than the ones in pre-war Syria. It's precisely because it's a complete sham that the election can even proceed in the current security situation in Syria in the first place.

As for the war, I think it will continue for a few more years at the very least, though probably at progressively lower intensity, ultimately becoming more of a guerilla-style insurgency, or freezing kind of like what's seen in Eastern Ukraine, with areas in the north of the country being de facto outside government control even as open conflict dies down.

[Dowaesk]

You are saying that the Myanmar president's (now under house arrest) victory of over 80% wasn't actually real, it was faked?

I am saying that these votes are not fair, I am talking about the high probability of corruption.

Why bow down to Assad when you can simply go ahead with negotiations without the extra drama. I myself am a strong supporter of Syrian Turkmen, but apologising? What for? And also Political Islamists is irrevelant here as of right now.
Refugees in Greece? There are refugees everywhere. Why did you have the feeling to mention that. We are talking about Turkey's participation here. No need to bring in Greece.

Assad is wrong with his anti-democratic behavior, but he is right in protecting his country against imperialists.Countries that support FSA and YPG should apologize to Syria. While acting fairly while defending the territorial integrity of Azerbaijan, justice cannot be provided by supporting terrorists in Syria. Based on the Syrian policy, the Turk political Islamists did not really wholeheartedly support the just cause of our Azerbaijani brothers. If you fight terrorism for votes, this is the result. terror will not end, your vote will not increase. The refugees are living in Turkey with Turkish citizens tax. There are Syrians returning to their country during Ramadan, so I think Syria is safe for them.

Lets drop the Turkish involvement topic now and go back to focusing on Bashar Al-Assad and his regime.

[-Ocelot-]

1. No fair elections can take place.

2. No, he is a dictator who used chemical weapons on his own people and has no qualms about killing his own to stay in power. He is destined to rule over ruins, inflame the current situation, and basically be Russia's loyal dog for the rest of his life.

3. Conflict will continue, although it's now clear that Assad will remain in power.

4. Assad should be removed from power

That will be very dangerous and will result in many more deaths. I myself, as much as I hate Assad, dont think its worth the fight. It is very likely that people will suffer under Assad, but they would suffer even more if they were to go through another conflict. I just cant bear the idea of more lives being destroyed. Hence, I, sad as it might be, support for peace and cooperation between Assad and the neighbouring nations.

I can't disagree with you, but at the same time it feels wrong to let a dictator who used such inhumane weapons against his own people get away with it. Even if getting away with it means spending the rest of his life managing a pile of rubble. I also don't believe that Assad will bring peace in the near future. He will most likely move to eliminate all kinds of opposition and will therefore destroy the lives of many. Even if no one intervenes, Assad will attack the rebels, the remnants of ISIS, Rojava, the Kurds etc. People will die, regardless.

[Nakena]

That will be very dangerous and will result in many more deaths. I myself, as much as I hate Assad, dont think its worth the fight. It is very likely that people will suffer under Assad, but they would suffer even more if they were to go through another conflict. I just cant bear the idea of more lives being destroyed. Hence, I, sad as it might be, support for peace and cooperation between Assad and the neighbouring nations.

I can't disagree with you, but at the same time it feels wrong to let a dictator who used such inhumane weapons against his own people get away with it. Even if getting away with it means spending the rest of his life managing a pile of rubble. I also don't believe that Assad will bring peace in the near future. He will most likely move to eliminate all kinds of opposition and will therefore destroy the lives of many. Even if no one intervenes, Assad will attack the rebels, the remnants of ISIS, Rojava, the Kurds etc. People will die, regardless.

Like I said before, the ship long has sailed.

[Dowaesk]

I can't disagree with you, but at the same time it feels wrong to let a dictator who used such inhumane weapons against his own people get away with it. Even if getting away with it means spending the rest of his life managing a pile of rubble. I also don't believe that Assad will bring peace in the near future. He will most likely move to eliminate all kinds of opposition and will therefore destroy the lives of many. Even if no one intervenes, Assad will attack the rebels, the remnants of ISIS, Rojava, the Kurds etc. People will die, regardless.

Like I said before, the ship long has sailed.

Well. I guess the world is a cruel place.
Im a believer of Islam. All I am capable of doing is pray for my Syrian brothers and sisters. May Allah grant the victims a place in heaven and may he punish the evildoers.

[-Ocelot-]

Like I said before, the ship long has sailed.

Well. I guess the world is a cruel place.
Im a believer of Islam. All I am capable of doing is pray for my Syrian brothers and sisters. May Allah grant the victims a place in heaven and may he punish the evildoers.

We can't expect God do all the work, is my point.

[Dowaesk]

Well. I guess the world is a cruel place.
Im a believer of Islam. All I am capable of doing is pray for my Syrian brothers and sisters. May Allah grant the victims a place in heaven and may he punish the evildoers.

We can't expect God do all the work, is my point.

Yes. It is from our hands that it will be done. But only if Allah wills it. (This is my beliefs. It is likely they will contradict with your beliefs. In which case, I mean no harm)

"Every one of you is a shepherd and is responsible for his flock. The leader of the people is a guardian and is responsible for his subjects: a man is the guardian of his family and is responsible for his subjects: a woman is the guardian of her husband's home and of his children and is responsible for them, and the slave of a man is a guardian of his master's property and is responsible for it. Surely, every one of you is a shepherd and responsible for his flock"
-Sahih Bukhari 6719

We all have to take responsibility. Each of us, in our own way within our own capabilities.
(Note: this hadith was based on culture back in those days and mainly used metaphorically. Dont take it the wrong way)

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

We can't expect God do all the work, is my point.

Yes. It is from our hands that it will be done. But only if Allah wills it. (This is my beliefs. It is likely they will contradict with your beliefs. In which case, I mean no harm)

"Every one of you is a shepherd and is responsible for his flock. The leader of the people is a guardian and is responsible for his subjects: a man is the guardian of his family and is responsible for his subjects: a woman is the guardian of her husband's home and of his children and is responsible for them, and the slave of a man is a guardian of his master's property and is responsible for it. Surely, every one of you is a shepherd and responsible for his flock"
-Sahih Bukhari 6719

We all have to take responsibility. Each of us, in our own way within our own capabilities.
(Note: this hadith was based on culture back in those days and mainly used metaphorically. Dont take it the wrong way)

Women are not the slaves or property of men, the Middle East is now a very complex and frightening place because of the mentality that sees women as slaves. The newly elected party in Syria must destroy the idea that women are slaves. The only solution is for the Arab Socialist Ba'ath Party to adopt social democracy. social democracy will destroy such outdated ideas.

[Dowaesk]

Yes. It is from our hands that it will be done. But only if Allah wills it. (This is my beliefs. It is likely they will contradict with your beliefs. In which case, I mean no harm)

"Every one of you is a shepherd and is responsible for his flock. The leader of the people is a guardian and is responsible for his subjects: a man is the guardian of his family and is responsible for his subjects: a woman is the guardian of her husband's home and of his children and is responsible for them, and the slave of a man is a guardian of his master's property and is responsible for it. Surely, every one of you is a shepherd and responsible for his flock"
-Sahih Bukhari 6719

We all have to take responsibility. Each of us, in our own way within our own capabilities.
(Note: this hadith was based on culture back in those days and mainly used metaphorically. Dont take it the wrong way)

Women are not the slaves or property of men, the Middle East is now a very complex and frightening place because of the mentality that sees women as slaves. The newly elected party in Syria must destroy the idea that women are slaves. The only solution is for the Arab Socialist Ba'ath Party to adopt social democracy. social democracy will destroy such outdated ideas.

I wonder where you got that from. Certainly not from the hadith that I quoted.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Syrian elections are as real as 2020 American election fraud. Assad is a dictator.

[Sungoldy-China]

Without these boring elections, Syria would be much better.

Fortunately, at least Syria will not become Lebanon.

[New haven america]

I predict Bashir Al-Assad will win.

But IDK, his competitor, Bashir Al-Assad, looks like he'll be making a strong showing. Then there's of course the underdog, Bashir Al-Assad, who seems to be making a decent showing.

[New haven america]

Yes. It is from our hands that it will be done. But only if Allah wills it. (This is my beliefs. It is likely they will contradict with your beliefs. In which case, I mean no harm)

"Every one of you is a shepherd and is responsible for his flock. The leader of the people is a guardian and is responsible for his subjects: a man is the guardian of his family and is responsible for his subjects: a woman is the guardian of her husband's home and of his children and is responsible for them, and the slave of a man is a guardian of his master's property and is responsible for it. Surely, every one of you is a shepherd and responsible for his flock"
-Sahih Bukhari 6719

We all have to take responsibility. Each of us, in our own way within our own capabilities.
(Note: this hadith was based on culture back in those days and mainly used metaphorically. Dont take it the wrong way)

Women are not the slaves or property of men, the Middle East is now a very complex and frightening place because of the mentality that sees women as slaves. The newly elected party in Syria must destroy the idea that women are slaves. The only solution is for the Arab Socialist Ba'ath Party to adopt social democracy. social democracy will destroy such outdated ideas.

Lotta the Middle East disagrees.

[Middle Barael]

With regards to the war, he's mostly won it, but I'm sure that the Rebels will keep on springing up and fighting. It'll probably turn more into an insurgency than a war.

Also, Rojava adds a whole new layer of complexity. Now that he has mostly won, how will Assad respond to Rojava? As much as I'm an ardent pacifist, I agree that we made a huge moral and tactical mistake pulling out troops out of Rojava, since now they're defenseless from Turkey and others. So with the US gone and the war mostly won, Assad may still very well betray Rojava, which could continue the fighting for years more.

[Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana]

Assad won

No genocide of Christians and Alawites, and Syria will remain one of the few secular nations in the region, much to the chagrin of warmongering Western centrists and liberal politicians

[Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana]

With regards to the war, he's mostly won it, but I'm sure that the Rebels will keep on springing up and fighting. It'll probably turn more into an insurgency than a war.

Also, Rojava adds a whole new layer of complexity. Now that he has mostly won, how will Assad respond to Rojava? As much as I'm an ardent pacifist, I agree that we made a huge moral and tactical mistake pulling out troops out of Rojava, since now they're defenseless from Turkey and others. So with the US gone and the war mostly won, Assad may still very well betray Rojava, which could continue the fighting for years more.

It’s going to have to submit to the Syrian government or be crushed by Turkey. The former, I assume, is a much better outcome in their eyes

[Dowaesk]

Assad won

No genocide of Christians and Alawites, and Syria will remain one of the few secular nations in the region, much to the chagrin of warmongering Western centrists and liberal politicians

Its not secular. Assad simply follows an ideology that it different than that of Saudi Arabia and ISIS.
No genocide of Alawites will happen because Assad himself is an Alawite.

[Roblox Crossroads]

Syrian elections dont exist. Don't even know why thats apart of the poll. As of the war, its standing still with the Syrian Army maintaining a strong position. Rebels may cause insurgencies and Turks will continue to try intervene while getting thier shitty Leopard 2A4's blown into pieces by Kornets