Rise of Domestic US terrorism fueled mostly by far right

[Dejado Atras]

Anyone who watches the Ben Shapiro show can see him regularly denouncing nazis and white supremacists.

Ben Shapiro serves as an excellent catalyst for the far-right pipeline. His other stances and positions speak volumes. That's how I went down that rabbit hole years ago- Ben Shapiro introduced me to people like PJW, and it just goes downhill from there.

If he’s alt-right then I’m an anarcho-communist. Which I am not. Nice of you to solely single out that reference though, “e” for effort.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

This is the opposite of news. Right wing racist assholes have been the biggest source of domestic terrorism and violence for decades. It just usually gets little coverage because the GOP and conservative movement actively cover for and downplay it out of ideological sympathy and/or needing their votes, while the Democrats and the media have largely ignored it partly out of slavish adherence to the status quo, and partly because any time they do bring it up it immediately triggers hysterical screeching from the right about reverse racism and the persecution of poor innocent white patriots.

Actually many Republicans and of course a large chunk of the GOP voter base and relatable parties have condemned/disavowed the far-right extremism. For example while Trump has made some ham-fisted remarks about white supremacists in the past,he has condemned David Duke before.

Anyone who watches the Ben Shapiro show can see him regularly denouncing nazis and white supremacists.

Read this article and you’ll see where Ted Cruz and Dan Crenshaw both have condemned white supremacy. Crenshaw saying it has no place in this world.

Many Republicans such as Lindsey Graham, Mitch McConnell, Tim Scott, and Bill Cassidy have called for Trump back when to condemn white supremacy.
I know very few Republicans myself who are onboard the white supremacy/neo-nazi train.
The extreme right wing that is nazism and white supremacy doesn’t have as strong a platform/presence as the left and select centrists like to pretend they do.


As for saying that the left and the DNC and media have “ignored” white supremacy and nazism, that’s a big fat LOL. It’s all that comes out of their mouths these days.

Holy shit you unironically watch Ben "send me aoc feet pics" Shapiro?

[Greater Cesnica]

Ben Shapiro serves as an excellent catalyst for the far-right pipeline. His other stances and positions speak volumes. That's how I went down that rabbit hole years ago- Ben Shapiro introduced me to people like PJW, and it just goes downhill from there.

If he’s alt-right then I’m an anarcho-communist. Which I am not. Nice of you to solely single out that reference though, “e” for effort.

He's not alt-right himself. His videos and rhetoric make people more amicable to it though.

[Dejado Atras]

Actually many Republicans and of course a large chunk of the GOP voter base and relatable parties have condemned/disavowed the far-right extremism. For example while Trump has made some ham-fisted remarks about white supremacists in the past,he has condemned David Duke before.

Anyone who watches the Ben Shapiro show can see him regularly denouncing nazis and white supremacists.

Read this article and you’ll see where Ted Cruz and Dan Crenshaw both have condemned white supremacy. Crenshaw saying it has no place in this world.

Many Republicans such as Lindsey Graham, Mitch McConnell, Tim Scott, and Bill Cassidy have called for Trump back when to condemn white supremacy.
I know very few Republicans myself who are onboard the white supremacy/neo-nazi train.
The extreme right wing that is nazism and white supremacy doesn’t have as strong a platform/presence as the left and select centrists like to pretend they do.


As for saying that the left and the DNC and media have “ignored” white supremacy and nazism, that’s a big fat LOL. It’s all that comes out of their mouths these days.

Holy shit you unironically watch Ben "send me aoc feet pics" Shapiro?

I watch various sources of all directions. I also suffer through Don Lemon and baby Cuomo pretty regular. Again, a hot take that totally dismantles me. “E” for effort.

[Greater Cesnica]

Holy shit you unironically watch Ben "send me aoc feet pics" Shapiro?

I watch various sources of all directions. I also suffer through Don Lemon and baby Cuomo pretty regular. Again, a hot take that totally dismantles me. “E” for effort.

All of those people, from Shapiro to Cuomo are tools imo

[Dejado Atras]

If he’s alt-right then I’m an anarcho-communist. Which I am not. Nice of you to solely single out that reference though, “e” for effort.

He's not alt-right himself. His videos and rhetoric make people more amicable to it though.

Not really... Of course that depends on your idea of alt-right. From Europe’s table for example I suppose he’s the first Jew nazi.

[Greater Cesnica]

He's not alt-right himself. His videos and rhetoric make people more amicable to it though.

Not really... Of course that depends on your idea of alt-right. From Europe’s table for example I suppose he’s the first Jew nazi.

I got into it from his anti-Muslim rhetoric. Which led to folks like Paul Joseph Watson and Stefan Molyneaux. Which led to even more extreme rhetoric.

[Dejado Atras]

I watch various sources of all directions. I also suffer through Don Lemon and baby Cuomo pretty regular. Again, a hot take that totally dismantles me. “E” for effort.

All of those people, from Shapiro to Cuomo are tools imo

Well at least we agree partially. Don’t get me wrong Shapiro says plenty I don’t agree with or even like. But I’m accrediting a leetle more factuality to him over, say, Chuck Todd or Cuomo for my news.

[Ifreann]

That's not terrorism.

I think that you could argue that it is.

Politically-motivated violence is generally classed as terrorism.

The definition of terrorism used in this study has been posted up-thread. But if you would argue that terrorism ought to be defined as politically motivated violence then let us consider that definition. Would the riots following the killing of George Floyd be classed as terrorism under that definition? Yes. But so too would be the police response to those riots. In fact, so too would all police violence, as law enforcement is inherently political. The arrest of George Floyd was terrorism, and would have been terrorism even if Floyd had survived. Derek Chauvin is a terrorist, regardless of the outcome of the trial. As is every other person with a badge and a gun. Their job is to be terrorists.

If someone were to attempt to illegally prevent you from voting in the next election, and you were to shove that person out of your way and proceed to exercise your democratic right, that would be terrorism. You would be a terrorist. Terrorism would be legal in many cases, would be moral, would sometimes even be a heroic act which we would expect to be rewarded with medals and accolades. And that, I think makes your proposed definition of terrorism a bit useless.

[Greater Cesnica]

All of those people, from Shapiro to Cuomo are tools imo

Well at least we agree partially. Don’t get me wrong Shapiro says plenty I don’t agree with or even like. But I’m accrediting a leetle more factuality to him over, say, Chuck Todd or Cuomo for my news.

Well, where are you politically speaking?

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Ben Shapiro serves as an excellent catalyst for the far-right pipeline. His other stances and positions speak volumes. That's how I went down that rabbit hole years ago- Ben Shapiro introduced me to people like PJW, and it just goes downhill from there.

If he’s alt-right then I’m an anarcho-communist. Which I am not. Nice of you to solely single out that reference though, “e” for effort.

He didn't call Ben Alt RIght. He called Ben a part of the Alt right pipeline.

Anti SJW Youtubers are part of rabbit hole or 'pipeline' that takes normal people and slowly transforms them into Alt right.

You tube recommends you a video from Ben or Prager U while you are watching a video about a non political topic. You click on it and you enjoy the jokes they make while feeding you small lies and right wing talking points. The more you watch the more you fall down the rabbit hole until you start to think shit like Bill Gates created 5G COIVD, masks are against god and, Jewish people built a space laser among other total insane bullshit.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Holy shit you unironically watch Ben "send me aoc feet pics" Shapiro?

I watch various sources of all directions. I also suffer through Don Lemon and baby Cuomo pretty regular. Again, a hot take that totally dismantles me. “E” for effort.

I'm not trying to dismantle you, just that it's rare to see anyone take Ben Shapiro's garbage at face value.

[Dejado Atras]

Well at least we agree partially. Don’t get me wrong Shapiro says plenty I don’t agree with or even like. But I’m accrediting a leetle more factuality to him over, say, Chuck Todd or Cuomo for my news.

Well, where are you politically speaking?

Socially I’m on the moderate right. I used to be a radical capitalist years ago (like when I was in high school) but these days I’ve leaned more to mixed economy. And that’s after business school. For a few years socially I did tilt more towards the middle but after like 2018 I pivoted back towards a solid right wing stance.

[Greater Cesnica]

If he’s alt-right then I’m an anarcho-communist. Which I am not. Nice of you to solely single out that reference though, “e” for effort.

He didn't call Ben Alt RIght. He called Ben a part of the Alt right pipeline.

Anti SJW Youtubers are part of rabbit hole or 'pipeline' that takes normal people and slowly transforms them into Alt right.

You tube recommends you a video from Ben or Prager U while you are watching a video about a non political topic. You click on it and you enjoy the jokes they make while feeding you small lies and right wing talking points. The more you watch the more you fall down the rabbit hole until you start to think shit like Bill Gates created 5G COIVD, masks are against god and, Jewish people built a space laser among other total insane bullshit.

For me I never got into 5G and shit, since I was alt-right around 2014-2015 and thus focused on more relevant shit at the time- "Jews push mass immigration to destroy Europe, Muslims should be exterminated, Jews created Christianity to cuck whites". That sort of bullshit.

[Dejado Atras]

I watch various sources of all directions. I also suffer through Don Lemon and baby Cuomo pretty regular. Again, a hot take that totally dismantles me. “E” for effort.

I'm not trying to dismantle you, just that it's rare to see anyone take Ben Shapiro's garbage at face value.

And if you’ll bother to notice I said I don’t agree with or even like a lot of what he says. But just because people say disagreeable things doesn’t immediately totally invalidate all their credibility.

[Greater Cesnica]

Well, where are you politically speaking?

Socially I’m on the moderate right. I used to be a radical capitalist years ago (like when I was in high school) but these days I’ve leaned more to mixed economy. And that’s after business school. For a few years socially I did tilt more towards the middle but after like 2018 I pivoted back towards a solid right wing stance.

Interesting. I lean very libertarian socially and recently have moved left. I was a pro-capitalist for several years before but was still very libertarian. And before my libertarian leanings started I was a fascist, which in turn was spurred on by milquetoast conservatism.

[Dejado Atras]

Socially I’m on the moderate right. I used to be a radical capitalist years ago (like when I was in high school) but these days I’ve leaned more to mixed economy. And that’s after business school. For a few years socially I did tilt more towards the middle but after like 2018 I pivoted back towards a solid right wing stance.

Interesting. I lean very libertarian socially and recently have moved left. I was a pro-capitalist for several years before but was still very libertarian. And before my libertarian leanings started I was a fascist, which in turn was spurred on by milquetoast conservatism.

Actually it was the Trump days that had me tilting a little more left as later years passed. But then other non-Trump related developments socially (combined with Biden’s first few months in office) have pretty much re-solidified me on the right. The moderate right of course, though ask most-a leftist and they’ll say there is no “moderate right”.

[Greater Cesnica]

Interesting. I lean very libertarian socially and recently have moved left. I was a pro-capitalist for several years before but was still very libertarian. And before my libertarian leanings started I was a fascist, which in turn was spurred on by milquetoast conservatism.

Actually it was the Trump days that had me tilting a little more left as later years passed. But then other non-Trump related developments socially (combined with Biden’s first few months in office) have pretty much re-solidified me on the right. The moderate right of course, though ask most-a leftist and they’ll say there is no “moderate right”.

I regard the GOP and Democrats as being fairly similar. Though that can be explained by how far I diverge from those two parties politically.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

He didn't call Ben Alt RIght. He called Ben a part of the Alt right pipeline.

Anti SJW Youtubers are part of rabbit hole or 'pipeline' that takes normal people and slowly transforms them into Alt right.

You tube recommends you a video from Ben or Prager U while you are watching a video about a non political topic. You click on it and you enjoy the jokes they make while feeding you small lies and right wing talking points. The more you watch the more you fall down the rabbit hole until you start to think shit like Bill Gates created 5G COIVD, masks are against god and, Jewish people built a space laser among other total insane bullshit.

For me I never got into 5G and shit, since I was alt-right around 2014-2015 and thus focused on more relevant shit at the time- "Jews push mass immigration to destroy Europe, Muslims should be exterminated, Jews created Christianity to cuck whites". That sort of bullshit.

Oh yeah, the great replacement nonsense. Man that was some crazy bullshit.

I'm not trying to dismantle you, just that it's rare to see anyone take Ben Shapiro's garbage at face value.

And if you’ll bother to notice I said I don’t agree with or even like a lot of what he says. But just because people say disagreeable things doesn’t immediately totally invalidate all their credibility.

No no, I read that and I get you.

My last post was off the mark, sorry.

It is worth noting however that his news media company the Daily Wire did get seed funding by Fracking billionaires.

So while this doesn't invalidate all his credibility, it is something to keep in the back of your head.

[Vassenor]

Funny how the riots ricochet from being entirely about acquiring shiny things to being political violence depending on what point conservatives want to make.

[Dejado Atras]

Actually it was the Trump days that had me tilting a little more left as later years passed. But then other non-Trump related developments socially (combined with Biden’s first few months in office) have pretty much re-solidified me on the right. The moderate right of course, though ask most-a leftist and they’ll say there is no “moderate right”.

I regard the GOP and Democrats as being fairly similar. Though that can be explained by how far I diverge from those two parties politically.

Don’t get me wrong I’m not a civilian spokesperson for the GOP that’s wearing ear muffs and blinders. And I’m not selectively overlooking of the wrongdoings by the GOP in the past. Both parties have had their low points (one more than the other) but also both have done things worth accreditation IMO. Politics in general disgust me but I’m not an anarchist advocate, I rather like the idea of government and a stable secure civilization. Insert quote about the necessary evils of politics.

[Austreylia]

While I'm on the topic of the obvious, the riots did less damage to people and business then Trump's shitty covid response did.

Ok. The two aren't even remotely related.

[Katganistan]

You mean the ones that tend to start in response to police use of force against peaceful protests?

Rioting is not justified even in the face of police violence. Especially not in the US which is not even an authoritarian state.

Because people were NOT kidnapped off the streets in unmarked vehicles, by uniformed troops not wearing any identification telling what agency they belonged to, and for no reason, correct?

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

While I'm on the topic of the obvious, the riots did less damage to people and business then Trump's shitty covid response did.

Ok. The two aren't even remotely related.

The 20 people who died in the riots are not any more or less dead then the 500K people dead from COVID.

The businesses that where closed either beacuse of sky high covid rates or being totally destroyed from rioting aren't any more or less closed.

Both did damage, one did a hell of a lot more damage then the other.

[Vassenor]

You mean the ones that tend to start in response to police use of force against peaceful protests?

Rioting is not justified even in the face of police violence. Especially not in the US which is not even an authoritarian state.

People need to just accept being tear gassed and beaten, amiright?