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CoraSpia wrote:

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
The looting of corporate chains does not bring a tear to my eyes.

And the looting of small businesses?

In the US context, the question isn't "do you like the looting of small businesses," because no one likes that (except looters of small businesses). The question is are you as upset about the looting of a small business in the midst of a riot as you are about a killing of a human being that may have helped precipitate said riot.

The Black Forrest wrote:

Greater Miami Shores wrote:There were leftist violent protestors by certain leftists not most leftists in Democrat cities with Democrat Mayors blamed on Republican President Trump

Your evidence? OANN is not a believable.

and the Republicans by Biden, Democrats and the biased, partisan, Pro Democrats leftist Media, even today those violent protests by those certain leftists continue, and the biased, partisan, Pro Democrats leftist Media doesn't blame Biden and the Democrats.

Ok? What’s your proof? It’s easy to see how the ex-president got blamed as he shot his mouth off all the time and said rather rude unfounded things.

Do you have Biden saying anything remotely to the low level of the ex-president?

The Leftist Media destroys Politicians it hates, like Republican Governor of Alaska, Sarah Palin, and Republican President Donald J Trump of the USA.

No they don’t. Those two supplied endless material to their own undoing.

The Moderators Know Every Word on This Post:

I got news and facts for you and all of you, most leftists not all, strongly agree or generally agree with leftist news sites like, MSNBC, The Progressive, The Guardian, and other leftists news sites that agrees with their Views, it is called Politics. Republicans, Proud Republican Trump Supporter, Pro USA, USA, USA, American Patriot Citizens of the USA, most or all, strongly agree or generally agree with OANN, Breitbart, Redstate.org, GOP USA, The Federalist, Town Hall, Newsmax, Fox News and other right wing sites that agrees with our views, it is called Politics.

Do you guys post to me and us from Right Wing News Sites? - I Say No. So why should I and us post to you guys from leftist news sites that agrees with your views? Don't hold us to different and higher standards? What does it matter anyway for over 4 years, no matter what we say, post or link to with whatever sources videos or no videos, will ever change your minds and views, You guys do the same thing many of you charge me with in reverse. Every day back and forth, the Republicans are no good, the Republicans hate democracy, the Republicans hate honest elections, the Republicans are corrupt, Republican President Trump is no good, President Trump is bad, President Trump is evil. The Republicans are terrorists because of what happened by a minority of right wingers at the Capitol Building, Republican President Trump is responsible for the terrorist capital Building riots. President Trump is responsible for the right wing violence and leftist violence. Republican President Trump is responsible for the virus crisis for the deaths of Americans in the USA that is killing persons all over the world, while all over the world and in the USA, we are all practicing the necessary health guide lines of wearing the masks I wear but hate to wear, washing our hands with soap and water as much as possible, using the grease hand sanitizers, and social distancing in businesses, work centers and other places, the only thing we can do, are doing and have been doing, under Republican President Trump of the USA. The only thing we can do, are doing and have been doing, with Biden and the Democrats. But you all keep blaming Republican President Trump as responsible for the virus crisis in the USA that is killing American in the USA, but you guys don't blame Biden for the deaths of Americans today due to virus crisis that is killing persons all over the world. At least blame the virus, but you guys keep blaming Republican President Trump for anything and everything, no matter what we say, post or link from with videos even with News Video Links?

Who Agrees, who Disagrees? I strongly agree and millions of American Citizens strongly agree with me This is a Fact.

Here's my theory on why it's far more easier for the Right to be violent than the left.

On the left the common held theory is that you as a single person can't fight back because you aren't fighting people you are fighting a system, the forces of Patriarchy, Organized White Supremacy, The welders of hetnormality, the holders of global capital, you the individual cannot defeat them, perhaps the only thing that can defeat these vast all powerful forces would be to everyone to work together, I mean isn't the entire idea behind intersectionality is that victory is impossible unless all the oppressed groups unite together?

Leftist Victories have historically been through those methods, the civil Rights movement wasn't won by Black people walking into the Capital and shooting all the pro-seggergationists, nor was the Gay Rights movement solved by shooting bigots, nor was women's rights, and while the labor movement and it's victories were won through a mix of non-violence and violence, at this point the labour movement isn't really much of a factor in the modern left and very few of them are militant enough to support acts of violence. Decades of US suppression of those movements helped that.

Then we got the right. And it's quite a different story in the right's dogma, to the right naked violence is how success happens, from the US Civil War, that the Republican Right still believe is "Their" victory, to World War 2, to the US Revolutionary War which the Libertarians Embrace, (And let's not get started on the far right's thoughts). A common belief on the right is the reason for their set backs in society is because their own side doesn't fight back anymore. Hence why so many Republicans turned to Trump.

The far more individualized ideology also causes support for the mindset of "Propaganda of the deed" type attacks where they can get the belief that their attack will inspire the uprising that will overthrow their enemies. A lot of past right wing political mass shooters all seemed to hold the mindset that their attacks would inspire others to act.

Then you have to add in the mental illness factor. Mental Illness and extreme ideology tend to go together fairly easily.

For the left Mental illness is not a stigma, there's no shame in coming out with emotional problems on the left. The right however not so much, the Right is supposed to be strong independent and in control of their own destinies, having mental illness goes against that image so it would be no surprise that people on the right are more likely to ignore their own mental problems out of fear of admitting weakness.

Then there's the gun owners and mental illness, a right winger might not want to come clean about a mental illness because it might mean their guns will get seized under whatever laws in place, so they deliberately refuse to get treatment out of fear of losing their weapons, this these combined elements mean that the lack of treatment causes the mental illness to become worse and eventually it leads to fatal consequences.

Tl;dr
The individualist nature of the right, the fact that the right sees their opposition towards people than systems, the fact that more right wingers own guns, and the fact that mental illness is less treated on the right means it's easier for a lone wolf attack to happen from the right. The leftist opposition towards systems and the belief that the systems must be fought through organized resistance acts against the mindset that creates lone wolf terrorism.

The Lone Alliance wrote:Then you have to add in the mental illness factor. Mental Illness and extreme ideology tend to go together fairly easily.

For the left Mental illness is not a stigma, there's no shame in coming out with emotional problems on the left. The right however not so much, the Right is supposed to be strong independent and in control of their own destinies, having mental illness goes against that image so it would be no surprise that people on the right are more likely to ignore their own mental problems out of fear of admitting weakness.

Then there's the gun owners and mental illness, a right winger might not want to come clean about a mental illness because it might mean their guns will get seized under whatever laws in place, so they deliberately refuse to get treatment out of fear of losing their weapons, this these combined elements mean that the lack of treatment causes the mental illness to become worse and eventually it leads to fatal consequences.

Tl;dr
The individualist nature of the right, the fact that the right sees their opposition towards people than systems, the fact that more right wingers own guns, and the fact that mental illness is less treated on the right means it's easier for a lone wolf attack to happen from the right. The leftist opposition towards systems and the belief that the systems must be fought through organized resistance acts against the mindset that creates lone wolf terrorism.

I have a mixed response on this.

Firstly yes, mental illness is bit more of a stigma on the right wing. I grew up in predominantly evangelical Christian pro-Republican area and mentally ill and emotionally disturbed people where I lived were looked down upon and even mistreated.

That said, I have also met many left wing people exterior to my home environment who bully and mistreat mentally ill and emotionally unsettled people “behind closed doors” so to speak. I feel like the gist here is that the left presents itself as the more empathetic side at face but off-camera and out of sight they - collectively - don’t have as big an “empathy margin” as most think.
Some of the biggest bullies we have today that can be seen in media and politics for example are left wing.

Many people do not come out about their mental illness because they are afraid of being ostracized, being shunned by family, losing their friends, etcetera. That’s not exclusive to one political/social margin. Yes, as I said, the left could be argued as having a bit more of an empathetic margin over the right, but not as much as they like to tout themselves having. Especially depending on one’s angle of analysis. Many people don’t think they need help, many people don’t want help or think they’re fine. People who refuse or think they do not need mental counseling are across the spectrum.

Really, this is just another attempt at painting right wing gun owners as unhinged loons.

Greater Miami Shores wrote:

The Black Forrest wrote:
Your evidence? OANN is not a believable.



Ok? What’s your proof? It’s easy to see how the ex-president got blamed as he shot his mouth off all the time and said rather rude unfounded things.

Do you have Biden saying anything remotely to the low level of the ex-president?



No they don’t. Those two supplied endless material to their own undoing.

The Moderators Know Every Word on This Post:

I got news and facts for you and all of you, most leftists not all, strongly agree or generally agree with leftist news sites like, MSNBC, The Progressive, The Guardian, and other leftists news sites that agrees with their Views, it is called Politics. Republicans, Proud Republican Trump Supporter, Pro USA, USA, USA, American Patriot Citizens of the USA, most or all, strongly agree or generally agree with OANN, Breitbart, Redstate.org, GOP USA, The Federalist, Town Hall, Newsmax, Fox News and other right wing sites that agrees with our views, it is called Politics.

Cutting that as I didn’t ask you about what the left uses or wheter or not people read the ones you listed.

Do you guys post to me and us from Right Wing News Sites? - I Say No. So why should I and us post to you guys from leftist news sites that agrees with your views?

I didn’t ask you to post from any left bias sites. I just asked for another source and stipulated OANN is not acceptable since they like to push conspiracies.

Don't hold us to different and higher standards? What does it matter anyway for over 4 years, no matter what we say, post or link to with whatever sources videos or no videos, will ever change your minds and views, You guys do the same thing many of you charge me with in reverse.

A higher standard is not quoting from conspiracies sources.

Every day back and forth, the Republicans are no good, the Republicans hate democracy, the Republicans hate honest elections,

All those voter suppression changes going on. Eighty plus election frivolous lawsuits. Sounds like they don’t like democracy.

the Republicans are corrupt, Republican President Trump is no good, President Trump is bad, President Trump is evil.

All Republicans? Nah. The trumpets? There are more then a few stories. Heck look at Gaetz. He will be “retiring” and probably jump on the evil gubberment circut. The ex-president? He made a huge amount of money while in office. Many republicans looked the other way. He is bad

The Republicans are terrorists because of what happened by a minority of right wingers at the Capitol Building,

You are right; all those counter protests against the insurrectionists......oh wait never happened. I understand it’s hard to find out you have that many people in your tent.

Republican President Trump is responsible for the terrorist capital Building riots. President

Responsible? No proof to suggest he was the mastermind....yet. Now....was he a motivator. Yes. Did he get excited when it went down? Yes. Did he order the guard out? Nope. Did he say anything to stop it? Sure two and half hours after it started and when forced to do it. Did he even check in on Pense? Nope.

Trump is responsible for the right wing violence and leftist violence.

His mouth helped in that area.

Republican President Trump is responsible for the virus crisis for the deaths of Americans in the USA that is killing persons all over the world,.

The ex-president was the best thing that could happened for covid. No plans; no concern; no goals; spoke against safety measures; ignored or criticized the viral experts. Used the chance to stir the racist views of his base. A great many people would still have been with us if somebody else was the president. Hell GWB would have done a vastly better job. Jeb would have done a better job......

while all over the world and in the USA, we are all practicing the necessary health guide lines of wearing the masks I wear but hate to wear, washing our hands with soap and water as much as possible, using the grease hand sanitizers, and social distancing in businesses, work centers and other places, the only thing we can do, are doing and have been doing, under Republican President Trump of the USA.

Those are all lies. The majority are not. The ex-president still speaks out against the protocols. His supporters ignore the protocols. As somebody posted the 7 most infected counties overwhelming support the ex-president.

are The only thing we can do, are doing and have been doing, with Biden and the Democrats. But you all keep blaming Republican President Trump as responsible for the virus crisis in the USA that is killing American in the USA, but you guys don't blame Biden for the deaths of Americans today due to virus crisis that is killing persons all over the world.

Striking the extraneous comment.

Yes the ex-president and his lackies are why it’s been so bad.

Biden inherited the ex-president’s bungled effort and yet how many people are vaccinated in 90 days? The ex-president had no plans for extra vaccines. He lost after all. Why should he?

At least blame the virus, but you guys keep blaming Republican President Trump for anything and everything, no matter what we say, post or link from with videos even with News Video Links?

Covid is a plague. Nobody disputes it. It running rampet in the US? It’s indeed the ex-president’s fault. We should have had (obviously a guess) about 100000 to 200000 dead if somebody competent as in charge. The ex-presidents legacy will include his bungled management of the outbreak.

Who Agrees, who Disagrees? I strongly agree and millions of American Citizens strongly agree with me This is a Fact.

I doubt the cultists have even broke a million.

If he had the support you keep insisting he had; he would have had a second term and we would have probably had 800000 dead.

Oh and you never provided sources to your claims.

Dejado Atras wrote:

The Lone Alliance wrote:Then you have to add in the mental illness factor. Mental Illness and extreme ideology tend to go together fairly easily.

For the left Mental illness is not a stigma, there's no shame in coming out with emotional problems on the left. The right however not so much, the Right is supposed to be strong independent and in control of their own destinies, having mental illness goes against that image so it would be no surprise that people on the right are more likely to ignore their own mental problems out of fear of admitting weakness.

Then there's the gun owners and mental illness, a right winger might not want to come clean about a mental illness because it might mean their guns will get seized under whatever laws in place, so they deliberately refuse to get treatment out of fear of losing their weapons, this these combined elements mean that the lack of treatment causes the mental illness to become worse and eventually it leads to fatal consequences.

Tl;dr
The individualist nature of the right, the fact that the right sees their opposition towards people than systems, the fact that more right wingers own guns, and the fact that mental illness is less treated on the right means it's easier for a lone wolf attack to happen from the right. The leftist opposition towards systems and the belief that the systems must be fought through organized resistance acts against the mindset that creates lone wolf terrorism.

I have a mixed response on this.

Firstly yes, mental illness is bit more of a stigma on the right wing. I grew up in predominantly evangelical Christian pro-Republican area and mentally ill and emotionally disturbed people where I lived were looked down upon and even mistreated.

That said, I have also met many left wing people exterior to my home environment who bully and mistreat mentally ill and emotionally unsettled people “behind closed doors” so to speak. I feel like the gist here is that the left presents itself as the more empathetic side at face but off-camera and out of sight they - collectively - don’t have as big an “empathy margin” as most think.
Some of the biggest bullies we have today that can be seen in media and politics for example are left wing.

Many people do not come out about their mental illness because they are afraid of being ostracized, being shunned by family, losing their friends, etcetera. That’s not exclusive to one political/social margin. Yes, as I said, the left could be argued as having a bit more of an empathetic margin over the right, but not as much as they like to tout themselves having. Especially depending on one’s angle of analysis. Many people don’t think they need help, many people don’t want help or think they’re fine. People who refuse or think they do not need mental counseling are across the spectrum.

Really, this is just another attempt at painting right wing gun owners as unhinged loons.

Some of them are. Still not sure how guns made it into it.

I have lived in both areas. One thing I recognized (though many years later and after similar claims) was the response. In the more conservative areas there were more comments about how horrible and every now and then an offer of help. On the lefty side; more comments about help. Still a bigger study would be needed to prove such claims.

Anyway; the US can’t even admit let alone support mental illness.....

Dejado Atras wrote:
I have a mixed response on this.

Firstly yes, mental illness is bit more of a stigma on the right wing. I grew up in predominantly evangelical Christian pro-Republican area and mentally ill and emotionally disturbed people where I lived were looked down upon and even mistreated.

That said, I have also met many left wing people exterior to my home environment who bully and mistreat mentally ill and emotionally unsettled people “behind closed doors” so to speak. I feel like the gist here is that the left presents itself as the more empathetic side at face but off-camera and out of sight they - collectively - don’t have as big an “empathy margin” as most think.
Some of the biggest bullies we have today that can be seen in media and politics for example are left wing.

The left on paper loves to claim to be more empathetic and will be empathetic until your empathy causes a problem with their world view. For example having a mental illness won't protect you if your mental illness causes you to do something that gets you "Canceled". At that point the media and the Woke mob will still devour you because at that point you're simply an enemy that must be destroyed.

However again notice that these bullies can only act when they have the support of the group, the bullies require the chorus of the mob backing them to encourage their horrific behavior.

That again falls back to my theory that the left is less likely to do any extreme action on their own and are far more likely to act as part of a collective group because it's a more collective ideology.

Dejado Atras wrote: Many people do not come out about their mental illness because they are afraid of being ostracized, being shunned by family, losing their friends, etcetera. That’s not exclusive to one political/social margin. Yes, as I said, the left could be argued as having a bit more of an empathetic margin over the right, but not as much as they like to tout themselves having. Especially depending on one’s angle of analysis. Many people don’t think they need help, many people don’t want help or think they’re fine. People who refuse or think they do not need mental counseling are across the spectrum.

Yes but it's harder for the left to have the means, access, and mentality to be a successful terrorist even if they have the sufficient level of insanity and malice to become one.

If they lack the self confidence to act on their own, if they're under the mindset of being afraid to use the weapons or abilities required for terrorism, that makes it harder for people holding the more leftist grievance mindset to be mass shooters.

Not saying it doesn't happen, see Vester Lee Flanagan II, who killed his former co-workers because he crazily believed that innocent statements made when he worked with them were actually overt violent microaggressions against him. He clearly had a form of a mental illiness in that he literally saw racism in everything he saw.

Dejado Atras wrote:
Really, this is just another attempt at painting right wing gun owners as unhinged loons.

Really the last part was only tacked on because I believe the idea of banning gun owners from having guns if they need any sort of mental help is actually counterproductive. I always found that to be a catch 22.

You want people to report mental illness so bad things don't happen but you also want to remove civil rights from people who have mental illness and then wonder why they don't come forward.

The Black Forrest wrote:

Greater Miami Shores wrote:The Moderators Know Every Word on This Post:

I got news and facts for you and all of you, most leftists not all, strongly agree or generally agree with leftist news sites like, MSNBC, The Progressive, The Guardian, and other leftists news sites that agrees with their Views, it is called Politics. Republicans, Proud Republican Trump Supporter, Pro USA, USA, USA, American Patriot Citizens of the USA, most or all, strongly agree or generally agree with OANN, Breitbart, Redstate.org, GOP USA, The Federalist, Town Hall, Newsmax, Fox News and other right wing sites that agrees with our views, it is called Politics.

Cutting that as I didn’t ask you about what the left uses or wheter or not people read the ones you listed.

Do you guys post to me and us from Right Wing News Sites? - I Say No. So why should I and us post to you guys from leftist news sites that agrees with your views?

I didn’t ask you to post from any left bias sites. I just asked for another source and stipulated OANN is not acceptable since they like to push conspiracies.

Don't hold us to different and higher standards? What does it matter anyway for over 4 years, no matter what we say, post or link to with whatever sources videos or no videos, will ever change your minds and views, You guys do the same thing many of you charge me with in reverse.

A higher standard is not quoting from conspiracies sources.

Every day back and forth, the Republicans are no good, the Republicans hate democracy, the Republicans hate honest elections,

All those voter suppression changes going on. Eighty plus election frivolous lawsuits. Sounds like they don’t like democracy.

the Republicans are corrupt, Republican President Trump is no good, President Trump is bad, President Trump is evil.

All Republicans? Nah. The trumpets? There are more then a few stories. Heck look at Gaetz. He will be “retiring” and probably jump on the evil gubberment circut. The ex-president? He made a huge amount of money while in office. Many republicans looked the other way. He is bad

The Republicans are terrorists because of what happened by a minority of right wingers at the Capitol Building,

You are right; all those counter protests against the insurrectionists......oh wait never happened. I understand it’s hard to find out you have that many people in your tent.

Republican President Trump is responsible for the terrorist capital Building riots. President

Responsible? No proof to suggest he was the mastermind....yet. Now....was he a motivator. Yes. Did he get excited when it went down? Yes. Did he order the guard out? Nope. Did he say anything to stop it? Sure two and half hours after it started and when forced to do it. Did he even check in on Pense? Nope.

Trump is responsible for the right wing violence and leftist violence.

His mouth helped in that area.

Republican President Trump is responsible for the virus crisis for the deaths of Americans in the USA that is killing persons all over the world,.

The ex-president was the best thing that could happened for covid. No plans; no concern; no goals; spoke against safety measures; ignored or criticized the viral experts. Used the chance to stir the racist views of his base. A great many people would still have been with us if somebody else was the president. Hell GWB would have done a vastly better job. Jeb would have done a better job......

while all over the world and in the USA, we are all practicing the necessary health guide lines of wearing the masks I wear but hate to wear, washing our hands with soap and water as much as possible, using the grease hand sanitizers, and social distancing in businesses, work centers and other places, the only thing we can do, are doing and have been doing, under Republican President Trump of the USA.

Those are all lies. The majority are not. The ex-president still speaks out against the protocols. His supporters ignore the protocols. As somebody posted the 7 most infected counties overwhelming support the ex-president.

are The only thing we can do, are doing and have been doing, with Biden and the Democrats. But you all keep blaming Republican President Trump as responsible for the virus crisis in the USA that is killing American in the USA, but you guys don't blame Biden for the deaths of Americans today due to virus crisis that is killing persons all over the world.

Striking the extraneous comment.

Yes the ex-president and his lackies are why it’s been so bad.

Biden inherited the ex-president’s bungled effort and yet how many people are vaccinated in 90 days? The ex-president had no plans for extra vaccines. He lost after all. Why should he?

At least blame the virus, but you guys keep blaming Republican President Trump for anything and everything, no matter what we say, post or link from with videos even with News Video Links?

Covid is a plague. Nobody disputes it. It running rampet in the US? It’s indeed the ex-president’s fault. We should have had (obviously a guess) about 100000 to 200000 dead if somebody competent as in charge. The ex-presidents legacy will include his bungled management of the outbreak.

Who Agrees, who Disagrees? I strongly agree and millions of American Citizens strongly agree with me This is a Fact.

I doubt the cultists have even broke a million.

If he had the support you keep insisting he had; he would have had a second term and we would have probably had 800000 dead.

Oh and you never provided sources to your claims.

Please answer the questions below, over to you now:

OANN, Breitbart, Redstate.org, GOP USA, The Federalist, Town Hall, Newsmax, Fox News - Are Acceptable and Reliable News Sources to Conservative Republicans, Proud Pro Trump Republicans, Pro USA, USA, USA, American Patriot Citizens of The USA to me and us. That is what matters to us.

I am not going to post to you or any persons from any links they ask me too or suggest to me. No one on NS does so, they post to us from whatever news sources they wish just like you do, which happens to agree with their views not your views. Perhaps not with the views of the posters they are posting too, this is a Fact.

Do You post to me from a news source I wish? Do you post to other persons from a news source they wish? ok, Please Post to me from OANN, Breitbart, Redstate.org, GOP USA, The Federalist, Town Hall, Newsmax, Fox News - which Are Acceptable and Reliable News Sources to Conservative Republicans, Proud Pro Trump Republicans, Pro USA, USA, USA, American Patriot Citizens of The USA like me?

Has any Persons ever asked you to post from a news source they wish? If they have I will never do so.

I see you crossed out again, all the relevant information to me, I wanted to you to read and understand, I don't expect you or any persons to agree with it. Do you expect me and other persons to agree with you on what you post to me and other persons?

I told you before on a post, You have a right to cross out all the words in my posts, as you have done a few times in the past. I told you I think the moderators should not allow us to do so. If I can I am going to suggest it to the moderators one of these days at the right time for their consideration if they wish to consider it, if they say no, I say like Ana Mario Polo - He Dicho Caso Cerrado - I Said Case Closed and I will forget about it.

Am I supposed to post to you from a news source that perhaps agrees with your views, or agrees with your views?
Are we supposed to post to you from a news source that perhaps agrees with your views, or agrees with your views?

Do you post to me and other persons from a news source that perhaps agrees with my views and those other persons views?

Please answer the questions, thank you?
I am having a lol attack at the contexts of your post,

GMS, I'm a "conservative Republican" and I don't trust OANN or breitbart or newsmax.

Great Algerstonia wrote:GMS, I'm a "conservative Republican" and I don't trust OANN or breitbart or newsmax.

Well My friend since we are both Conservative Republicans, Please read my sig. Would you post to the leftists from the sources they ask you too, which just happens to agree with their views, not your views and not my views?

Greater Miami Shores wrote:

Great Algerstonia wrote:GMS, I'm a "conservative Republican" and I don't trust OANN or breitbart or newsmax.

Well My friend since we are both Conservative Republicans, Please read my sig. Would you post to the leftists from the sources they ask you too, which just happens to agree with their views, not your views and not my views?

It is possible to find news without hard bias and baseless conspiracies, but it doesn't reflect your perception of reality. Most people don't want you to share "leftist" sources, just post accurate things.

CoraSpia wrote:

Vassenor wrote:
Looting upsets the status quo of who is permitted to own what though, and thus the plebians are able to appear above their station as defined in capitalism.

Nope, looting is 'me see shiny thing, me want shiny thing.' It's why it was historically carried out by groups like the mongols, because they wanted shiny thing. There's no noble aim to looting, it's just a mixture of envy and selfishness.

Equitable distribution of shiny things is a cause as noble as the ravens who inspire it.

Greater Miami Shores wrote:

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
If Trump didn't want to be painted as a jack ass by the media, he shouldn't have been a jack ass. None of his promises where ever "common sense". Leaveing Paris agreement wasn't common sense. Nither was the wall or his bat shit plan on somehow geting rid of the US debt.

There were leftist violent protestors by certain leftists not most leftists in Democrat cities with Democrat Mayors blamed on Republican President Trump and the Republicans by Biden, Democrats and the biased, partisan, Pro Democrats leftist Media, even today those violent protests by those certain leftists continue, and the biased, partisan, Pro Democrats leftist Media doesn't blame Biden and the Democrats.

The Leftist Media destroys Politicians it hates, like Republican Governor of Alaska, Sarah Palin, and Republican President Donald J Trump of the USA.

What does this have to do with anything? 'Democrat Mayors' blaming Trump for 'leftist violent protestors', while not making sense doesn't change the fact that the media painting Trump as an idiot was accurate. Mainly beacuse Trump was an idiot throughout his entire presidency.

From the start of his candidacy calling Mexicans rapists, to his claim of magically making all the US Debt go away, to his waste of money idea of the wall, to him leaving the Paris agreement if elected. All the way to the end of his train wreck presidency with his garbage COVID response that got more Americans killed then every war America has been in combined.


There where very few stop clocked moments from him, the only one I can remember was the banning of Tic Tok.

If he didn't want to be a clown, he wouldn't have been a clown.

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:

CoraSpia wrote:
Nope, looting is 'me see shiny thing, me want shiny thing.' It's why it was historically carried out by groups like the mongols, because they wanted shiny thing. There's no noble aim to looting, it's just a mixture of envy and selfishness.

The looting of corporate chains does not bring a tear to my eyes.

As much as I hate corporate anything, corporate chain stores and restaurants are locally owned and operated. Also corporate or not, looting sucks.

I have said it before, I'll say it again, the riots done by a minority of people where not acceptable.

But again, the riots where small in number and over reported by the media. Most BLM protesting was peaceful and that can not be understated.

However, the rioting did do lots of damage and got people hurt and or killed. I do not approve of rioting or looting. I approve of the actions of the majority of BLM however, as what the majority did was peacefully protest for police reform.

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:

Greater Miami Shores wrote:There were leftist violent protestors by certain leftists not most leftists in Democrat cities with Democrat Mayors blamed on Republican President Trump and the Republicans by Biden, Democrats and the biased, partisan, Pro Democrats leftist Media, even today those violent protests by those certain leftists continue, and the biased, partisan, Pro Democrats leftist Media doesn't blame Biden and the Democrats.

The Leftist Media destroys Politicians it hates, like Republican Governor of Alaska, Sarah Palin, and Republican President Donald J Trump of the USA.

What does this have to do with anything? 'Democrat Mayors' blaming Trump for 'leftist violent protestors', while not making sense doesn't change the fact that the media painting Trump as an idiot was accurate. Mainly beacuse Trump was an idiot throughout his entire presidency.

From the start of his candidacy calling Mexicans rapists, to his claim of magically making all the US Debt go away, to his waste of money idea of the wall, to him leaving the Paris agreement if elected. All the way to the end of his train wreck presidency with his garbage COVID response that got more Americans killed then every war America has been in combined.


There where very few stop clocked moments from him, the only one I can remember was the banning of Tic Tok.

If he didn't want to be a clown, he wouldn't have been a clown.

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
The looting of corporate chains does not bring a tear to my eyes.

As much as I hate corporate anything, corporate chain stores and restaurants are locally owned and operated. Also corporate or not, looting sucks.

I have said it before, I'll say it again, the riots done by a minority of people where not acceptable.

But again, the riots where small in number and over reported by the media. Most BLM protesting was peaceful and that can not be understated.

However, the rioting did do lots of damage and got people hurt and or killed. I do not approve of rioting or looting. I approve of the actions of the majority of BLM however, as what the majority did was peacefully protest for police reform.

From his environmental policy to tax cuts, covid and international relations, Trumps first concern was the American economy. Keeping food on the table for his people is the job of a president. He was certainly better than the man who proceeded him and I am sure will be better than the one who followed him, and anyone who takes over should he die in office.

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:But again, the riots where small in number and over reported by the media. Most BLM protesting was peaceful and that can not be understated.

What also cannot be understated is the billions of damage done and the 20+ people killed by rioters.

This is the opposite of news. Right wing racist assholes have been the biggest source of domestic terrorism and violence for decades. It just usually gets little coverage because the GOP and conservative movement actively cover for and downplay it out of ideological sympathy and/or needing their votes, while the Democrats and the media have largely ignored it partly out of slavish adherence to the status quo, and partly because any time they do bring it up it immediately triggers hysterical screeching from the right about reverse racism and the persecution of poor innocent white patriots.

Myrensis wrote:This is the opposite of news. Right wing racist assholes have been the biggest source of domestic terrorism and violence for decades. It just usually gets little coverage because the GOP and conservative movement actively cover for and downplay it out of ideological sympathy and/or needing their votes, while the Democrats and the media have largely ignored it partly out of slavish adherence to the status quo, and partly because any time they do bring it up it immediately triggers hysterical screeching from the right about reverse racism and the persecution of poor innocent white patriots.

I guess you missed the entire summer of riots perpetrated by BLM and its allies.

Austreylia wrote:

Myrensis wrote:This is the opposite of news. Right wing racist assholes have been the biggest source of domestic terrorism and violence for decades. It just usually gets little coverage because the GOP and conservative movement actively cover for and downplay it out of ideological sympathy and/or needing their votes, while the Democrats and the media have largely ignored it partly out of slavish adherence to the status quo, and partly because any time they do bring it up it immediately triggers hysterical screeching from the right about reverse racism and the persecution of poor innocent white patriots.

I guess you missed the entire summer of riots perpetrated by BLM and its allies.

That's not terrorism.

Ifreann wrote:

Austreylia wrote:I guess you missed the entire summer of riots perpetrated by BLM and its allies.

That's not terrorism.

I think that you could argue that it is.

Politically-motivated violence is generally classed as terrorism.

Austreylia wrote:

Ifreann wrote:That's not terrorism.

I think that you could argue that it is.

Politically-motivated violence is generally classed as terrorism.

Then you'll agree with me that the United States military is responsible for quite a bit of terrorism, no?

Greater Cesnica wrote:Then you'll agree with me that the United States military is responsible for quite a bit of terrorism, no?

Yes.

Austreylia wrote:

Greater Cesnica wrote:Then you'll agree with me that the United States military is responsible for quite a bit of terrorism, no?

Yes.

Pleasantly surprised. You have principles. That is rare nowadays.

Myrensis wrote:This is the opposite of news. Right wing racist assholes have been the biggest source of domestic terrorism and violence for decades. It just usually gets little coverage because the GOP and conservative movement actively cover for and downplay it out of ideological sympathy and/or needing their votes, while the Democrats and the media have largely ignored it partly out of slavish adherence to the status quo, and partly because any time they do bring it up it immediately triggers hysterical screeching from the right about reverse racism and the persecution of poor innocent white patriots.

Actually many Republicans and of course a large chunk of the GOP voter base and relatable parties have condemned/disavowed the far-right extremism. For example while Trump has made some ham-fisted remarks about white supremacists in the past,he has condemned David Duke before.

Anyone who watches the Ben Shapiro show can see him regularly denouncing nazis and white supremacists.

Read this article and you’ll see where Ted Cruz and Dan Crenshaw both have condemned white supremacy. Crenshaw saying it has no place in this world.

Many Republicans such as Lindsey Graham, Mitch McConnell, Tim Scott, and Bill Cassidy have called for Trump back when to condemn white supremacy.
I know very few Republicans myself who are onboard the white supremacy/neo-nazi train.
The extreme right wing that is nazism and white supremacy doesn’t have as strong a platform/presence as the left and select centrists like to pretend they do.


As for saying that the left and the DNC and media have “ignored” white supremacy and nazism, that’s a big fat LOL. It’s all that comes out of their mouths these days.

Dejado Atras wrote:Anyone who watches the Ben Shapiro show can see him regularly denouncing nazis and white supremacists.

Ben Shapiro serves as an excellent catalyst for the far-right pipeline. His other stances and positions speak volumes. That's how I went down that rabbit hole years ago- Ben Shapiro introduced me to people like PJW, and it just goes downhill from there.

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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
What does this have to do with anything? 'Democrat Mayors' blaming Trump for 'leftist violent protestors', while not making sense doesn't change the fact that the media painting Trump as an idiot was accurate. Mainly beacuse Trump was an idiot throughout his entire presidency.

From the start of his candidacy calling Mexicans rapists, to his claim of magically making all the US Debt go away, to his waste of money idea of the wall, to him leaving the Paris agreement if elected. All the way to the end of his train wreck presidency with his garbage COVID response that got more Americans killed then every war America has been in combined.


There where very few stop clocked moments from him, the only one I can remember was the banning of Tic Tok.

If he didn't want to be a clown, he wouldn't have been a clown.



As much as I hate corporate anything, corporate chain stores and restaurants are locally owned and operated. Also corporate or not, looting sucks.

I have said it before, I'll say it again, the riots done by a minority of people where not acceptable.

But again, the riots where small in number and over reported by the media. Most BLM protesting was peaceful and that can not be understated.

However, the rioting did do lots of damage and got people hurt and or killed. I do not approve of rioting or looting. I approve of the actions of the majority of BLM however, as what the majority did was peacefully protest for police reform.

From his environmental policy to tax cuts, covid and international relations, Trumps first concern was the American economy. Keeping food on the table for his people is the job of a president. He was certainly better than the man who proceeded him and I am sure will be better than the one who followed him, and anyone who takes over should he die in office.

Bruh he failed at both environmental policy and economy.

His environmental policy was "gut the EPA to own the libs". The economy he failed to protect when COVID hit. He should have had stricter COVID safety policy when it first popped off. He didn't and now 500k Americans are dead. Jobless rates skyrocked. Hyperinflation was working overtime in 2020.

He was, absolutely a failure at the economy. Instead of going for a New Zealand Japan approach, he thought he knew better then the CDC (that he also gutted) and now half a million dead are here while local business are dead.

Austreylia wrote:

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:But again, the riots where small in number and over reported by the media. Most BLM protesting was peaceful and that can not be understated.

What also cannot be understated is the billions of damage done and the 20+ people killed by rioters.

While I'm on the topic of the obvious, the riots did less damage to people and business then Trump's shitty covid response did.