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Neanderthaland
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Postby Neanderthaland » Sun Apr 18, 2021 7:40 pm

Melrovia wrote:
Kowani wrote:yeah it's almost like the capitol storming was a localized one-time event and Black Lives Matter protests were spread out across the course of the summer with millions of participants in different cities
in terms of "harm caused", they aren't comparable at all, we are working with events of fundamentally different magnitudes


yeah, hanging Mike Pence really would've satisfied those grievances

Alternative hypothesis: County level Republicans calling for people to storm the capitol might be more relevant, what with all the "stolen election" bullshit that was floating around

the "hurt" did not stick-Trump is back on top of the GOP, even in post-presidential life


Okay, so the protests were more spread out. Does that make it okay that more people still died in total?

Sure, but he's unlikely to ever be re-elected. He might have had a decent chance at winning a second term if the riot didn't happen. Sure, Trump is back on top of the GOP, but it's largely due to the second impeachment. Between the time of the Capitol riot and the impeachment, I'd wager lots of Republicans we're gonna move on from Trump, since he royally screwed up. The impeachment just reignited fanaticism.

Can you really blame them for thinking there was voter fraud when the media made it very clear that they had an agenda against Trump, when his supporters were asking he be given a fair chance?

Yes. Yes I can.

It's incredibly stupid.
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Borderlands of Rojava
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sun Apr 18, 2021 7:45 pm

Melrovia wrote:
Kowani wrote:yeah it's almost like the capitol storming was a localized one-time event and Black Lives Matter protests were spread out across the course of the summer with millions of participants in different cities
in terms of "harm caused", they aren't comparable at all, we are working with events of fundamentally different magnitudes


yeah, hanging Mike Pence really would've satisfied those grievances

Alternative hypothesis: County level Republicans calling for people to storm the capitol might be more relevant, what with all the "stolen election" bullshit that was floating around

the "hurt" did not stick-Trump is back on top of the GOP, even in post-presidential life


Okay, so the protests were more spread out. Does that make it okay that more people still died in total?

Sure, but he's unlikely to ever be re-elected. He might have had a decent chance at winning a second term if the riot didn't happen. Sure, Trump is back on top of the GOP, but it's largely due to the second impeachment. Between the time of the Capitol riot and the impeachment, I'd wager lots of Republicans we're gonna move on from Trump, since he royally screwed up. The impeachment just reignited fanaticism.

Can you really blame them for thinking there was voter fraud when the media made it very clear that they had an agenda against Trump, when his supporters were asking he be given a fair chance?


Yes I can, and he was given a chance and he failed. He was a shitty president.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sun Apr 18, 2021 7:50 pm

Major-Tom wrote:Tucker Carlson and Prager U told me that leftists are the real violent ones, and since I can't think outside of my own insular worldview, I reject this objective information categorically.

While a minority of right wingers protested at the Capitol Building and I keep condemning them, Right wing Pro Trump Republican Tucker Carlson says it because a minority of leftists have been tearing down statues and monuments, looting stores even of minorities, burning buildings, killing innocent cops and persons, in Democrat Controlled cities with Democrat Mayors since before the 2016 elections while Biden and the Democrats, the biased, anti Trump, anti Republican leftist media and many Democrats and their supporters Blamed President Trump, and after the 2016 elections the minority number of leftists continue leftist violence, these are the reasons Republican Nationalist Tucker Carlson says so, he is 100 % Correct.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sun Apr 18, 2021 7:58 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:
Melrovia wrote:
Okay, so the protests were more spread out. Does that make it okay that more people still died in total?

Sure, but he's unlikely to ever be re-elected. He might have had a decent chance at winning a second term if the riot didn't happen. Sure, Trump is back on top of the GOP, but it's largely due to the second impeachment. Between the time of the Capitol riot and the impeachment, I'd wager lots of Republicans we're gonna move on from Trump, since he royally screwed up. The impeachment just reignited fanaticism.

Can you really blame them for thinking there was voter fraud when the media made it very clear that they had an agenda against Trump, when his supporters were asking he be given a fair chance?

Yes. Yes I can.

It's incredibly stupid.

You can blame him, those who agree with you can blame him, I cant blame him, those millions who strongly agree with me cant Blame Republican President Trump for the riots in Democrat Run Cities With Democrat Mayors by a minority of Leftists, and voter fraud and massive vote fraud against him by the biased, partisan Democrats and many Democrat supporters who don't like him and hate him since the day he got elected President where there were impeach Trump signs, and Trump is not my president, and street protests against him, their hate for Republican President Trump is the reason they committed massive Democrat vote fraud against him, and millions of American Citizens strongly agree with me, as well as x numbers of NS and Discord Persons that vote on thread polls but don't want to post on those threads as they keep telling me, I have talked too on TGs and Messages. I strongly disagree with my good Rojava, Republican President Donald J Trump of the USA, Is the second greatest American President of the USA ever, since the greatest American President of the USA, Republican President Ronald Reagan, the original Make America Great Again President, a certain of us say President Trump is the greatest and President Regan is the second greatest, certain of us say Republican President Trump is the second greatest and Republican President Ronald Reagan is the Greatest American President ever of the USA.
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Postby Conservative Republic Of Huang » Sun Apr 18, 2021 8:18 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:Tucker Carlson and Prager U told me that leftists are the real violent ones, and since I can't think outside of my own insular worldview, I reject this objective information categorically.

While a minority of right wingers protested at the Capitol Building and I keep condemning them, Right wing Pro Trump Republican Tucker Carlson says it because a minority of leftists have been tearing down statues and monuments, looting stores even of minorities, burning buildings, killing innocent cops and persons, in Democrat Controlled cities with Democrat Mayors since before the 2016 elections while Biden and the Democrats, the biased, anti Trump, anti Republican leftist media and many Democrats and their supporters Blamed President Trump, and after the 2016 elections the minority number of leftists continue leftist violence, these are the reasons Republican Nationalist Tucker Carlson says so, he is 100 % Correct.

A minority (less than 50%) of members of the Nazi party participated actively in the Holocaust. A minority of Jews participated in Nakam. Ergo, Nazi violence=Jewish violence.

Same logic as you.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sun Apr 18, 2021 8:50 pm

Conservative Republic Of Huang wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:While a minority of right wingers protested at the Capitol Building and I keep condemning them, Right wing Pro Trump Republican Tucker Carlson says it because a minority of leftists have been tearing down statues and monuments, looting stores even of minorities, burning buildings, killing innocent cops and persons, in Democrat Controlled cities with Democrat Mayors since before the 2016 elections while Biden and the Democrats, the biased, anti Trump, anti Republican leftist media and many Democrats and their supporters Blamed President Trump, and after the 2016 elections the minority number of leftists continue leftist violence, these are the reasons Republican Nationalist Tucker Carlson says so, he is 100 % Correct.

A minority (less than 50%) of members of the Nazi party participated actively in the Holocaust. A minority of Jews participated in Nakam. Ergo, Nazi violence=Jewish violence.

Same logic as you.

Hell No Not My Logic Your Logic - My Logic: Nakam Wikipedia Excerpt and Link Included. As I keep Posting and you might have seen at least one of my Posts, I am a strong supporter of Israel and the Jewish People, Republican President Trump has Jewish grandchildren in his Family. I RP NS Jerusalem Israel with Pride and Honor. Greater Miami Shores has over 150,000 ethnic Euro Jews of all kinds, Republican Eliana Ros Ileana Ros-Lehtinen First VP Second President Popular 2 5 Year Terms VP Popular 2 5 Terms President, of native Cuban Jewish Descent and España La Madre Patria I RP too. I admire the Jewish People for turning deserts into farmlands and NS Jerusalem Israel I RP Too. Nakam (Hebrew: נקם‎, 'Revenge') was a group of about fifty Holocaust survivors who, in 1945, sought to kill Germans and Nazis in revenge for the murder of six million Jews during the Holocaust. Led by Abba Kovner, the group sought to kill six million Germans in a form of indiscriminate revenge, "a nation for a nation".

A minority (less than 50%) of members of the Nazi party participated actively in the Holocaust. Are You and Those who Agree with You comparing Nazi Germany's crimes against the Jewish People I Honor With Pride and Honor to the Minority Right Wingers at the Capitol Building Riot that was not Republican President Trump's Fault, Who Said Protest Peacefully and Patriotically as the Majority did as President Asked Them Too. Including Proud Republican Trump Supporters Friends of Mine I wished I Could have gone with them, Proud Republican Trump Supporters, Vietnam Combat Veterans, of The Army, Navy, Air Force And US Marines fellow Cubans and Americans,

Are You and other Persons Comparing Them to the Fuhrer Adolph Hitler and the Nazis of Nazi Germany as the same? I strongly disagree with you and any Persons who do, if this is the case? Republican President Trump taught me and the millions of us for over 4 years to defend and fight like hell our views, but Peacefully and Patriotically as he asked us too and we did and still do today. Please answer the Question?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakam A minority (less than 50%) of members of the Nazi party participated actively in the Holocaust.
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Postby Kowani » Sun Apr 18, 2021 9:05 pm

Melrovia wrote:
Kowani wrote:yeah it's almost like the capitol storming was a localized one-time event and Black Lives Matter protests were spread out across the course of the summer with millions of participants in different cities
in terms of "harm caused", they aren't comparable at all, we are working with events of fundamentally different magnitudes


yeah, hanging Mike Pence really would've satisfied those grievances

Alternative hypothesis: County level Republicans calling for people to storm the capitol might be more relevant, what with all the "stolen election" bullshit that was floating around

the "hurt" did not stick-Trump is back on top of the GOP, even in post-presidential life


Okay, so the protests were more spread out. Does that make it okay that more people still died in total?
this is a monumental misunderstanding of the point being made
Sure, but he's unlikely to ever be re-elected. He might have had a decent chance at winning a second term if the riot didn't happen. Sure, Trump is back on top of the GOP, but it's largely due to the second impeachment. Between the time of the Capitol riot and the impeachment, I'd wager lots of Republicans we're gonna move on from Trump, since he royally screwed up. The impeachment just reignited fanaticism.
A counterfactual with no evidence whatsoever is entirely pointless
Can you really blame them for thinking there was voter fraud when the media made it very clear that they had an agenda against Trump, when his supporters were asking he be given a fair chance?

Yes.
The media does not run elections, and the claims were transparently false. The people making the claims that the election was fraudulent didn’t even support those claims in the courtroom. Not “they did it poorly.” They straight up admitted they weren’t actually alleging fraud. On multiple occasions. That people fell for this county-fair level hucksterism is indefensible, regardless of what side of the political divide you stand on.
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Postby Nevertopia » Sun Apr 18, 2021 9:12 pm

man i really hate nazis/white nationalists, imagine wanting to hurt and kill everyone based on your favourite colour. Idiots am I right?
So the CCP won't let me be or let me be me so let me see, they tried to shut me down on CBC but it feels so empty without me.
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Greater Miami Shores
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sun Apr 18, 2021 9:16 pm

The Leftist Minority Numbers Protesting Violently in Democrat run cities with Democrat Mayors before and after the 2016 elections cant not be compared to one day of right wing Minority Numbers violence at the Capitol Building as worse. Still to day the Leftist Violence continues across The USA. Republican President Trump Said Protest Peacefully and Patriotically and the majority did as he asked them too, including my Cuban and American Friends, Proud Vietnam Combat Veterans of The Army, Navy and US Marines. Posted in different order with other original added information.

Excerpts From The Washington Post:

In the wake of Wednesday’s violence, we are seeing calls from across the political spectrum to label the mob of Trump supporters that stormed the Capitol “terrorists.” On Thursday, President-elect Joe Biden joined those calls, promising to prioritize the adoption of “domestic terrorism” legislation. As lawyers who have represented individuals the government has described as “terrorist,” we urge caution.

our position that such incidents are not terrifying — they are. Rather, we argue that our response shouldn’t be so fixated on getting the state to treat these actions as terrorism.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/ ... forcement/
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Postby Conservative Republic Of Huang » Sun Apr 18, 2021 9:39 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Conservative Republic Of Huang wrote:A minority (less than 50%) of members of the Nazi party participated actively in the Holocaust. A minority of Jews participated in Nakam. Ergo, Nazi violence=Jewish violence.

Same logic as you.

-snip-

My point is, the rightists attempted a coup. If not for the Capitol Police, Democratic congresspeople would be dead right now and Trump would be serving an illegitimate third term. If there were no police at the race protests, honestly, maybe less property damage w/o them trying to provoke peaceful protestors. There is no equivalency.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:40 pm

Conservative Republic Of Huang wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:-snip-

My point is, the rightists attempted a coup. If not for the Capitol Police, Democratic congresspeople would be dead right now and Trump would be serving an illegitimate third term. If there were no police at the race protests, honestly, maybe less property damage w/o them trying to provoke peaceful protestors. There is no equivalency.

My Point IS: IF the Certain Violent Leftists Protestors since before the 2016 elections and after the 2016 elections did not Protest Violently Problems Solved. But Republican President Donald J Trump of the USA is innocent from the Charges of the biased, Partisan Democrats, President Trump Said Protest Peacefully and Patriotically Not Protest Violently - President Trump Said Protest Peacefully and Patriotically.
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Postby Conservative Republic Of Huang » Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:46 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Conservative Republic Of Huang wrote:My point is, the rightists attempted a coup. If not for the Capitol Police, Democratic congresspeople would be dead right now and Trump would be serving an illegitimate third term. If there were no police at the race protests, honestly, maybe less property damage w/o them trying to provoke peaceful protestors. There is no equivalency.

My Point IS: IF the Certain Violent Leftists Protestors since before the 2016 elections and after the 2016 elections did not Protest Violently Problems Solved.

How would that have stopped 1/6?
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Postby Major-Tom » Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:49 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:Tucker Carlson and Prager U told me that leftists are the real violent ones, and since I can't think outside of my own insular worldview, I reject this objective information categorically.

While a minority of right wingers protested at the Capitol Building and I keep condemning them, Right wing Pro Trump Republican Tucker Carlson says it because a minority of leftists have been tearing down statues and monuments, looting stores even of minorities, burning buildings, killing innocent cops and persons, in Democrat Controlled cities with Democrat Mayors since before the 2016 elections while Biden and the Democrats, the biased, anti Trump, anti Republican leftist media and many Democrats and their supporters Blamed President Trump, and after the 2016 elections the minority number of leftists continue leftist violence, these are the reasons Republican Nationalist Tucker Carlson says so, he is 100 % Correct.


Once in a while, people will just inadvertently back up what I've previously said in a discussion. This is one of those instances.

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:53 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:While a minority of right wingers protested at the Capitol Building and I keep condemning them, Right wing Pro Trump Republican Tucker Carlson says it because a minority of leftists have been tearing down statues and monuments, looting stores even of minorities, burning buildings, killing innocent cops and persons, in Democrat Controlled cities with Democrat Mayors since before the 2016 elections while Biden and the Democrats, the biased, anti Trump, anti Republican leftist media and many Democrats and their supporters Blamed President Trump, and after the 2016 elections the minority number of leftists continue leftist violence, these are the reasons Republican Nationalist Tucker Carlson says so, he is 100 % Correct.


Once in a while, people will just inadvertently back up what I've previously said in a discussion. This is one of those instances.

I Don't Understand My English Not Very Good? lol.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:06 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
Once in a while, people will just inadvertently back up what I've previously said in a discussion. This is one of those instances.

I Don't Understand My English Not Very Good? lol.


They are saying you prefer to keep believing false information that fits your worldview instead of accepting it when your information was wrong.
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Postby CoraSpia » Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:10 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Melrovia wrote:
Okay, so the protests were more spread out. Does that make it okay that more people still died in total?

Sure, but he's unlikely to ever be re-elected. He might have had a decent chance at winning a second term if the riot didn't happen. Sure, Trump is back on top of the GOP, but it's largely due to the second impeachment. Between the time of the Capitol riot and the impeachment, I'd wager lots of Republicans we're gonna move on from Trump, since he royally screwed up. The impeachment just reignited fanaticism.

Can you really blame them for thinking there was voter fraud when the media made it very clear that they had an agenda against Trump, when his supporters were asking he be given a fair chance?


Yes I can, and he was given a chance and he failed. He was a shitty president.

He was never given a chance by the media, they dismissed him and set about to demonise him from day one. It was constant negative coverage and amplification of the 'not my president' crowd over his common-sense proposals.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:11 pm

The Alma Mater wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:I Don't Understand My English Not Very Good? lol.


They are saying you prefer to keep believing false information that fits your worldview instead of accepting it when your information was wrong.

Thank you The Alma Mater. I Think Major-Tom Is A Leftist. If Major-Tom can say his Posts is A Fact as he Has. If Leftists can say their Posts Are Facts As They Do All The Time Every Time Every Day. Fair IS Fair. Proud Republican Trump Supporter Pro USA USA USA Right Winger GMS Can Say My Posts And Views Are Facts And I Say So They Are Facts. I GMS Am Based. I Am The Real Thing. This Man Always Says What He Means It is on My New Sig With Pride And Honor.

IF They Can Say This As They Say -They are saying you prefer to keep believing false information that fits your worldview instead of accepting it when your information was wrong.

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Postby Neu California » Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:38 pm

CoraSpia wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Yes I can, and he was given a chance and he failed. He was a shitty president.

He was never given a chance by the media, they dismissed him and set about to demonise him from day one. It was constant negative coverage and amplification of the 'not my president' crowd over his common-sense proposals.

Common sense proposals?

You mean like:
The Muslim ban
Tax cuts that overwhelmingly benefitted the rich
Repeal of Obamacare with no replacement
The wall that Mexico was supposed to pay for (followed by American Taxpayers when Mexico refused)
Family separation at the border with no plan to reunite families

Those common sense proposals? Because all of those sound awful and idiotic to me, and not at all common sense.
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Postby CoraSpia » Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:46 pm

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CoraSpia wrote:He was never given a chance by the media, they dismissed him and set about to demonise him from day one. It was constant negative coverage and amplification of the 'not my president' crowd over his common-sense proposals.

Common sense proposals?

You mean like:
The Muslim ban
Tax cuts that overwhelmingly benefitted the rich
Repeal of Obamacare with no replacement
The wall that Mexico was supposed to pay for (followed by American Taxpayers when Mexico refused)
Family separation at the border with no plan to reunite families

Those common sense proposals? Because all of those sound awful and idiotic to me, and not at all common sense.

I'm not a fan of border control but I liked a lot of his other proposals.
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Postby Picairn » Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:49 pm

CoraSpia wrote:I'm not a fan of border control but I liked a lot of his other proposals.

Yeah no, just because you like them doesn't mean that they are "common sense". Giving the rich massive tax cuts and repealing Obamacare doesn't look like "common sense" to me, especially when I saw the evidence.
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Postby Odreria » Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:50 pm

Picairn wrote:
CoraSpia wrote:I'm not a fan of border control but I liked a lot of his other proposals.

Yeah no, just because you like them doesn't mean that they are "common sense".

Yes it does.
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Postby Picairn » Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:51 pm

Odreria wrote:Yes it does.

Evidence?
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Postby Odreria » Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:52 pm

Picairn wrote:
Odreria wrote:Yes it does.

Evidence?

I could ask you the same question
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Postby CoraSpia » Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:53 pm

Picairn wrote:
CoraSpia wrote:I'm not a fan of border control but I liked a lot of his other proposals.

Yeah no, just because you like them doesn't mean that they are "common sense". Giving the rich massive tax cuts and repealing Obamacare doesn't look like "common sense" to me, especially when I saw the evidence.

The rich are far too heavily taxed all over the West.
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Postby Picairn » Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:54 pm

Odreria wrote:I could ask you the same question

So no evidence then, just a deflection.
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