Rise of Domestic US terrorism fueled mostly by far right

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

It's obviously an issue for Republicans that illegals can now vote

They can't.

and not only vote but vote in a method as dubious as mail in voting.

Mail in is safe.

A lot of right wingers saw the election as illegitimate because there were large numbers of incidents reported as voter fraud or suspected voter fraud

This isn't up for debate, voter fraud was barely even a thing.

Besides think about what would happen if you didn't find common ground with them. They aren't going away anymore than you are, so all it's going to lead to is more violence on both sides.

Common ground? We are way past that point. Left wing has tried over and over again, while the right wing has kept on driving into pure insanity.

The amount of Trump flags on anti mask protests and right wingers becoming anti vaxers are just insane.

[CoraSpia]

Doing something 'at all cost' is how we ended up with the disasterous covid policies we've been seeing for the last year. You want to see massive infringements on liberty in the name of the environment that have no projected end date?

Not even remotely the same thing. Environmental laws infringe on liberty? Protecting land and species is infringing on freedom? You can’t be serious.

Depends what the law in question is. If it's forcing everyone to use electric cars and severely restricting flying for example, then yes it does. If it's banning fishing then yes it does. If it's limiting how much meat people are allowed to eat then yes it does. What do you have in mind?

[San Lumen]

Not even remotely the same thing. Environmental laws infringe on liberty? Protecting land and species is infringing on freedom? You can’t be serious.

Depends what the law in question is. If it's forcing everyone to use electric cars and severely restricting flying for example, then yes it does. If it's banning fishing then yes it does. If it's limiting how much meat people are allowed to eat then yes it does. What do you have in mind?

I don’t have any of those things in mind. I want to strengthen the endangered species act , clean air and water act, set aside more land as wilderness, plant more trees, limit commercial fishing by banning giant trawlers among other things.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Environmentalism must be done regardless of the consequences.

Doing something 'at all cost' is how we ended up with the disasterous covid policies we've been seeing for the last year. You want to see massive infringements on liberty in the name of the environment that have no projected end date?

The ""disastrous"" COVID policies saved lives. Don't give me that "but muh liberty" shit.

There is a problem with people dying from COVID and there will be a problem with people dying from global warming.

[CoraSpia]

It's obviously an issue for Republicans that illegals can now vote

They can't.

and not only vote but vote in a method as dubious as mail in voting.

Mail in is safe.

A lot of right wingers saw the election as illegitimate because there were large numbers of incidents reported as voter fraud or suspected voter fraud

This isn't up for debate, voter fraud was barely even a thing.

Besides think about what would happen if you didn't find common ground with them. They aren't going away anymore than you are, so all it's going to lead to is more violence on both sides.

Common ground? We are way past that point. Left wing has tried over and over again, while the right wing has kept on driving into pure insanity.

The amount of Trump flags on anti mask protests and right wingers becoming anti vaxers are just insane.

I still don't understand why America has such a messed up voting system. In the UK we use this revolutionary new voting machine called box. You input your vote into box, using the slot-top method, and then it gets counted by a load of people and then read out. Parties can ask for recounts if it's close. No possibility for hacking, no votes getting lost in the mail, no stupid punchcards.

[Christian Confederation]

To curb violence we just need to Deradicalize people and not dehumanize our political opinions. Conservative Ideas are just as valid as Left ideas...

Careful now, an idea like that nowadays can get you lynched. Jokes aside though you make a fair point and i actually completely agree with you. I think that American Conservatism has pretty much stayed consistent whereas the left has become more radical, forcing conservatives to radicalize. One of the big pulls for many voters this past election with Biden was his message that he would heal divides in the nation-a promise he has failed spectacularly to live up to by reversing Donald Trumps policies, which were themselves a reaction to left wing pushes. Biden is refusing to deradicalize the nation and is pushing us further towards a metaphorical cliff where reactions like we saw at the capital last year may happen again to populations that feel they have no other options.

Absolutely. Trump had his faults as all Presidents do but it was a relief to see positive change foreign policy and economy wise. In all honesty my faith in the country surviving to 2076 has declined significantly in the past 2 years. During the Trump Administration the left only got more radical and they continue to do so.
Honestly the only hope I do have is a few Congressmen, Project Veritas, and Jordan Peterson.

[Rusozak]

What gets me the most is the delusions people have that these incidents were really some kind of elaborate false flag operation. Yeah, an angry mob chanting racial slurs and celebrating the Holocaust while waving around Trump banners is totally a bunch of commie leftists.

[CoraSpia]

Depends what the law in question is. If it's forcing everyone to use electric cars and severely restricting flying for example, then yes it does. If it's banning fishing then yes it does. If it's limiting how much meat people are allowed to eat then yes it does. What do you have in mind?

I don’t have any of those things in mind. I want to strengthen the endangered species act , clean air and water act, set aside more land as wilderness, plant more trees, limit commercial fishing by banning giant trawlers among other things.

I'm unfamiliar with the clean air act because it's several thousand miles away, can you give me a rundown please?
Banning large trawlers will rise fish prices massively, or result in more commercial fish farms which are terrible for local ecosystems.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Not even remotely the same thing. Environmental laws infringe on liberty? Protecting land and species is infringing on freedom? You can’t be serious.

Depends what the law in question is. If it's forcing everyone to use electric cars and severely restricting flying for example, then yes it does. If it's banning fishing then yes it does. If it's limiting how much meat people are allowed to eat then yes it does. What do you have in mind?

Oh no, you have to drive an electric car now. How terrible.

[The Reformed American Republic]

Then he would have invented election "anomalies" to justify keeping Trump in power.

It was going to be led by a judge, not Cruz himself.

How about the judges who ruled that voter fraud claims are without merit?

[CoraSpia]

Doing something 'at all cost' is how we ended up with the disasterous covid policies we've been seeing for the last year. You want to see massive infringements on liberty in the name of the environment that have no projected end date?

The ""disastrous"" COVID policies saved lives. Don't give me that "but muh liberty" shit.

There is a problem with people dying from COVID and there will be a problem with people dying from global warming.

Rule of thumb:
If it prevents normal people from living their lives, I don't agree with it. Normal people being people who aren't committing intentional crimes.

[Picairn]

Doing something 'at all cost' is how we ended up with the disasterous covid policies we've been seeing for the last year. You want to see massive infringements on liberty in the name of the environment that have no projected end date?

I don't want to hear Covid policy opinions from a guy who wants to sacrifice lives for the sake of his "liberty".

[Zohiania]

I strongly agree with your statement above, but since I really do respect all persons rights to express their different views under the freedoms of expressions and democracy, like the Communists, Fascists and Nazis on the White Supremacy Discussion Thread, which many persons of all ideologies who do not respect it, I WANT YOU TO KNOW I Like You and I Love You For Your Sig Statement.

Thank you, I also value the rights of all people to freely express themselves and state freely what they believe. And I think its important to uphold these rights for the hated minority (in this case ideological extremists), and hopefully anyone who feels the need to quote the 'Paradox of Tolerance' actually knows the full quotation and context provided by Karl Popper.

[CoraSpia]

It was going to be led by a judge, not Cruz himself.

How about the judges who ruled that voter fraud claims are without merit?

We both know what the result of the election inquiry was going to be, I think he was proposing it because there were a lot of very angry people around and he thought he had an idea which might calm them down.

[The Reformed American Republic]

How about the judges who ruled that voter fraud claims are without merit?

We both know what the result of the election inquiry was going to be, I think he was proposing it because there were a lot of very angry people around and he thought he had an idea which might calm them down.

No, he wanted to kiss Trump's ass.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

and how are we supposed to find common ground with a group of people not accepting the fact their Leader lost a election and tried to halt the counting process? Seriously?

Easy, you take their concerns seriously and make concessions for the future. It's obviously an issue for Republicans that illegals can now vote, and not only vote but vote in a method as dubious as mail in voting. A lot of right wingers saw the election as illegitimate because there were large numbers of incidents reported as voter fraud or suspected voter fraud, which throws the whole election into question. Besides think about what would happen if you didn't find common ground with them. They aren't going away anymore than you are, so all it's going to lead to is more violence on both sides.

I don’t see all Republicans as terrorists. Winning an election or working together is the better solution.

I'd agree, but in order to work together both sides need to make concessions and right now that isn't happening.

Okay I am now thoroughly convinced you probably voted for Trump. First off illegal immigrants can't vote. That's straight up bullshit pushed by the right wing media and it doesn't happen in the real world. Second off, mail in is safe. In fact it's harder to tamper with than actual in person voting. And third, I frankly don't care if Trump's fans are using the claim of a rigged election as a coping mechanism. Trump's own legal team didn't even make the claim of widespread fraud in court because they themselves knew it was bullshit. So no, we don't have to indulge the bizarre fantasies of many American Right wingers just to have unity. I'd rather have this country remain bitterly divided than play along with someone's out of touch and increasingly dark and violent fantasies just to promote hollow and meaningless uNiTy.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Absolutely. Trump had his faults as all Presidents do but it was a relief to see positive change foreign policy and economy wise.

Shown: Trumps economy.

Shown: Trumps foreign policy.

[Rusozak]

We both know what the result of the election inquiry was going to be, I think he was proposing it because there were a lot of very angry people around and he thought he had an idea which might calm them down.

No, he wanted to kiss Trump's ass.

Well, the Trumpian terrorists threatening to kill anyone who didn't tow the line probably didn't help.

[The Reformed American Republic]

No, he wanted to kiss Trump's ass.

Well, the Trumpian terrorists threatening to kill anyone who didn't tow the line probably didn't help.

He wanted to gain Trump's favor. It was a Machiavellian move.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Absolutely. Trump had his faults as all Presidents do but it was a relief to see positive change foreign policy and economy wise.

Shown: Trumps economy.

Shown: Trumps foreign policy.

Wow, it's almost like Trump is a sad clown leading a circus and not a president leading a country.

[CoraSpia]

We both know what the result of the election inquiry was going to be, I think he was proposing it because there were a lot of very angry people around and he thought he had an idea which might calm them down.

No, he wanted to kiss Trump's ass.

If the democrats had accepted it it would have been a great win for Cruz. He would have shown how he was loyal to the end (2024 anyone?) and he would have probably prevented the capital riot. It was a very sensible proposal.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

The ""disastrous"" COVID policies saved lives. Don't give me that "but muh liberty" shit.

There is a problem with people dying from COVID and there will be a problem with people dying from global warming.

Rule of thumb:
If it prevents normal people from living their lives, I don't agree with it. Normal people being people who aren't committing intentional crimes.

Rule of thumb:

People dying from a plague isn't a good thing.

Florida being underwater isn't a good thing.

[Resilient Acceleration]

You know, I floated the idea around before, I can do it gain.

Let the US buy French Guiana, relocate the far right winger over there, and see what happens.

They claim the superior political ideology, well I wanna see it in action. Make Former French Guiana the greatest country in history, I dare you.

This sounds like the start of those insane TNO Burgundy-esque esoteric states you find in NS F7.

[The Reformed American Republic]

No, he wanted to kiss Trump's ass.

If the democrats had accepted it it would have been a great win for Cruz. He would have shown how he was loyal to the end (2024 anyone?) and he would have probably prevented the capital riot. It was a very sensible proposal.

Why should we give into paranoid people drunk on Qanon and other garbage? They're not rational, so if the commission found no evidence, they would just say the deep state covered it up.

[Whitemore]

You know, I floated the idea around before, I can do it gain.

Let the US buy French Guiana, relocate the far right winger over there, and see what happens.

They claim the superior political ideology, well I wanna see it in action. Make Former French Guiana the greatest country in history, I dare you.

This sounds like the start of those insane TNO Burgundy-esque esoteric states you find in NS F7.

You'll find no happiness under the Black Sun.