Rise of Domestic US terrorism fueled mostly by far right

[The Rich Port]

"One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist" -Ronald Reagan

Ironically Ronald Reagan was a terrorist himself who actively supported terrorists across the world.

Literally gave money and weapons to Osama bin Laden.

[Fansania]

"One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist" -Ronald Reagan

Ironically Ronald Reagan was a terrorist himself who actively supported terrorists across the world.

What are the examples of him supporting terrorism you are referring to?

[Lady Victory]

Ironically Ronald Reagan was a terrorist himself who actively supported terrorists across the world.

What are the examples of him supporting terrorism you are referring to?

lmao wat

He backed the fucking Mujahideen dude. You know, the guys who after successfully overthrowing the legitimate government of Afghanistan with U.S. aid splintered into dozens of other terrorist organizations and exported their "jihad" across the Islamic World culminating in the creation of groups like Al-Qaeda, Al-Nusra, the Taliban, ISIS, Boko Haram, etc.

The success of the Mujahideen are the reason these groups exist, and the reason the Mujahideen was successful is in part thanks to Reagan and the CIA.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Ironically Ronald Reagan was a terrorist himself who actively supported terrorists across the world.

What are the examples of him supporting terrorism you are referring to?

So, he literally sold weapons to the Ayatollah so that he could have money to set up his drugs programme, which he used to fund far right death squads in central America. All in time for him to support apartheid South Africa.

Take your pick.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

What are the examples of him supporting terrorism you are referring to?

lmao wat

He backed the fucking Mujahideen dude. You know, the guys who after successfully overthrowing the legitimate government of Afghanistan with U.S. aid splintered into dozens of other terrorist organizations and exported their "jihad" across the Islamic World culminating in the creation of groups like Al-Qaeda, Al-Nusra, the Taliban, ISIS, Boko Haram, etc.

The success of the Mujahideen are the reason these groups exist, and the reason the Mujahideen was successful is in part thanks to Reagan and the CIA.

Oh yeah, and this. Forgot about that...

[Borderlands of Rojava]

"One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist" -Ronald Reagan

Ironically Ronald Reagan was a terrorist himself who actively supported terrorists across the world.

"These are the George Washington's of our time."

-Ronald Reagan insulting George Washington by comparing jihadists to him.

[The Rich Port]

What are the examples of him supporting terrorism you are referring to?

lmao wat

He backed the fucking Mujahideen dude. You know, the guys who after successfully overthrowing the legitimate government of Afghanistan with U.S. aid splintered into dozens of other terrorist organizations and exported their "jihad" across the Islamic World culminating in the creation of groups like Al-Qaeda, Al-Nusra, the Taliban, ISIS, Boko Haram, etc.

The success of the Mujahideen are the reason these groups exist, and the reason the Mujahideen was successful is in part thanks to Reagan and the CIA.

This NationStates thread is dedicated to the brave Mujahideen fighters of Afghanistan.

Also, I say he was was indirectly responsible for the CONTRA scandal.

[Fansania]

What are the examples of him supporting terrorism you are referring to?

lmao wat

He backed the fucking Mujahideen dude. You know, the guys who after successfully overthrowing the legitimate government of Afghanistan with U.S. aid splintered into dozens of other terrorist organizations and exported their "jihad" across the Islamic World culminating in the creation of groups like Al-Qaeda, Al-Nusra, the Taliban, ISIS, Boko Haram, etc.

The success of the Mujahideen are the reason these groups exist, and the reason the Mujahideen was successful is in part thanks to Reagan and the CIA.

Everybody makes some mistake or misstep and nobody is perfect at leading. But the point of the quote I mentioned is that the standing government institutions would of course define any "radical" movement as terrorist or insurgent regardless if the movement was objectively for the better or not.

[Lady Victory]

lmao wat

He backed the fucking Mujahideen dude. You know, the guys who after successfully overthrowing the legitimate government of Afghanistan with U.S. aid splintered into dozens of other terrorist organizations and exported their "jihad" across the Islamic World culminating in the creation of groups like Al-Qaeda, Al-Nusra, the Taliban, ISIS, Boko Haram, etc.

The success of the Mujahideen are the reason these groups exist, and the reason the Mujahideen was successful is in part thanks to Reagan and the CIA.

Everybody makes some mistake or misstep and nobody is perfect at leading. But the point of the quote I mentioned is that the standing government institutions would of course define any "radical" movement as terrorist or insurgent regardless if the movement was objectively for the better or not.

Sending guns, money, and aid to violent religious extremists who would overthrow a legitimate, secular, modernizing government and replace it with a backwards fundamentalist dictatorship while exporting their rabid militants across the globe to destabilize other countries and then fly planes into the heart of the largest city on Earth killing almost 3,000 people in the process is a bit more than a "mistake" or "misstep".

[Diarcesia]

Ironically Ronald Reagan was a terrorist himself who actively supported terrorists across the world.

"These are the George Washington's of our time."

-Ronald Reagan insulting George Washington by comparing jihadists to him.

Jeez that aged like milk eh?

[Fansania]

Everybody makes some mistake or misstep and nobody is perfect at leading. But the point of the quote I mentioned is that the standing government institutions would of course define any "radical" movement as terrorist or insurgent regardless if the movement was objectively for the better or not.

Sending guns, money, and aid to violent religious extremists who would overthrow a legitimate, secular, modernizing government and replace it with a backwards fundamentalist dictatorship while exporting their rabid militants across the globe to destabilize other countries and then fly planes into the heart of the largest city on Earth killing almost 3,000 people in the process is a bit more than a "mistake" or "misstep".

I'm not defending that.

[Esternial]

Giving in to terrorists is objectively a bad idea.

Besides that, it's moral cowardice of the lowest order.

So then why were we doing exactly that when BLM were rioting and looting? Besides only a fool would continue provoking half of the population with increasingly radical legislation when those radical positions led to thousands of normal working joe's storming the capital. These aren't terrorists, these are people concerned with losing their rights which is a completely human and normal reaction. If you want proof look at the thousands of examples throughout history of similar events, especially in the former Soviet Union.

A democracy is supposed to work for all of it's citizens, something the left hasn't been doing.

You're right, it is supposed to work for all of its citizens.

If only minorities didn't have their voting rights disproportionately taken away through American history because of regularly re-branded systems of oppression - which BLM is seeking to combat.

No point in clamoring about democracy if it's a sham to begin with.

[Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia]

According to that site NPR is in the center.

NPR? Really? Gimme a break

It's a "fact-checking" site.

Literally nobody besides the "Sammy | they/it | ACAB | BLM | ASD | Social Anxiety" crowd takes them seriously.

Gee, did someone nab yer dinner, mate? Sounds like yer a scaredy cat for some reason.

[Lady Victory]

Sending guns, money, and aid to violent religious extremists who would overthrow a legitimate, secular, modernizing government and replace it with a backwards fundamentalist dictatorship while exporting their rabid militants across the globe to destabilize other countries and then fly planes into the heart of the largest city on Earth killing almost 3,000 people in the process is a bit more than a "mistake" or "misstep".

I'm not defending that.

"Everybody makes mistakes!" cries the apathetic jury whose 'Not Guilty' verdict allows a proven serial rapist and murderer to walk free.

Mistakes have consequences, and are not above criticism.

[Fansania]

So then why were we doing exactly that when BLM were rioting and looting? Besides only a fool would continue provoking half of the population with increasingly radical legislation when those radical positions led to thousands of normal working joe's storming the capital. These aren't terrorists, these are people concerned with losing their rights which is a completely human and normal reaction. If you want proof look at the thousands of examples throughout history of similar events, especially in the former Soviet Union.

A democracy is supposed to work for all of it's citizens, something the left hasn't been doing.

You're right, it is supposed to work for all of its citizens.

If only minorities didn't have their voting rights disproportionately taken away through American history because of regularly re-branded systems of oppression - which BLM is seeking to combat.

No point in clamoring about democracy if it's a sham to begin with.

America being systemically any more racist than other countries is a fat lie, an indoctrination.

[Washington Resistance Army]

You're right, it is supposed to work for all of its citizens.

If only minorities didn't have their voting rights disproportionately taken away through American history because of regularly re-branded systems of oppression - which BLM is seeking to combat.

No point in clamoring about democracy if it's a sham to begin with.

America being systemically any more racist than other countries is a fat lie, an indoctrination.

It's actually an objectively true statement supported by statistics on various matters but you do you.

[Omniabstracta]

America being systemically any more racist than other countries is a fat lie, an indoctrination.

It's actually an objectively true statement supported by statistics on various matters but you do you.

Besides, who the hell cares whether our racism is better or worse than other countries’ racism? Shouldn’t we y’know, just be trying to combat the racism we have anyways?

[Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia]

What, english? It's not a bad language. I quite like english, myself.

As do I.

I was more so talking about the cringe modern cultural Marxism “your privileged” lingo. Of course, if the white Glasgow kebab tycoon wants to continue with his lecture about special privileges to the Hispanic man who gets by on his income I welcome him to continue, actually.

"Cultural Marxism" is nothing more than an antisemitic conspiracy theory, created by none other than Josef Goebbels and the NSDAP. Literally none of Karl Marx's writings made any reference to postmodernism and the New Left.

[Esternial]

It's actually an objectively true statement supported by statistics on various matters but you do you.

Besides, who the hell cares whether our racism is better or worse than other countries’ racism? Shouldn’t we y’know, just be trying to combat the racism we have anyways?

And one of the weapons to combat racism is democracy. To me, things like felony disenfranchisement and jerrymandering erode the integrity and efficacy of that democracy.

It's like watering down a drug so much it's little more than a placebo to soothe people's conscience.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Maybe America and Europe has gone so far left that the traditionalists and conservatives are getting angrier.

Ah yes, America where center right politicians like Obama and Clinton are now ""far left"".

Europe is only "far left" if you forget Hungry and Poland existed. Even then it's center left.

Ironically Ronald Reagan was a terrorist himself who actively supported terrorists across the world.

What are the examples of him supporting terrorism you are referring to?

People here forgot Reagan also supported the Contra terrorists.

Of course as pointed out earlier, he was part of Operation Cyclone, backing the Mujahideen.

And the Mujahideen never once ever betrayed America. By the power of unicorn pee and dragon poo, the Mujahideen had a long lasting peaceful government, and was a very loyal ally to the US. They never ever ever attacked America in the largest terrorist attack in history. Nope. Nothing happened on September 11th 2001. Nothing at all. (this was sarcastic btw)

[Esternial]

Maybe America and Europe has gone so far left that the traditionalists and conservatives are getting angrier.

Ah yes, America where center right politicians like Obama and Clinton are now ""far left"".

Europe is only "far left" if you forget Hungry and Poland existed. Even then it's center left.

It's getting old. Group A gets angry because Group B is gaining more influence or power & tries to hold on to power.

If the United States gets a left-wing equivalent of Trump as their President I'll consider the balance of power overly-shifted towards the left and we can complain about that. Until then, some of us could do with being less dramatic.

[Elwher]

Everybody makes some mistake or misstep and nobody is perfect at leading. But the point of the quote I mentioned is that the standing government institutions would of course define any "radical" movement as terrorist or insurgent regardless if the movement was objectively for the better or not.

Sending guns, money, and aid to violent religious extremists who would overthrow a legitimate, secular, modernizing government and replace it with a backwards fundamentalist dictatorship while exporting their rabid militants across the globe to destabilize other countries and then fly planes into the heart of the largest city on Earth killing almost 3,000 people in the process is a bit more than a "mistake" or "misstep".

you mean the "legitimate, secular, modernizing government" that was in bed with the Soviet Union, who was still claiming they wanted to destroy us. Remember a proverb from that part of the world, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend", the same reason we supported Stalin in WW II who later repaid us in a similar fashion.

Yes, the long-term effects of that support worked out poorly but those could not be anticipated at the time. The immediate result was tying down Soviet forces in a quagmire and eventually sending them out with their tails between their legs.

[Fansania]

Maybe America and Europe has gone so far left that the traditionalists and conservatives are getting angrier.

Ah yes, America where center right politicians like Obama and Clinton are now ""far left"".

Europe is only "far left" if you forget Hungry and Poland existed. Even then it's center left.

What are the examples of him supporting terrorism you are referring to?

People here forgot Reagan also supported the Contra terrorists.

Of course as pointed out earlier, he was part of Operation Cyclone, backing the Mujahideen.

And the Mujahideen never once ever betrayed America. By the power of unicorn pee and dragon poo, the Mujahideen had a long lasting peaceful government, and was a very loyal ally to the US. They never ever ever attacked America in the largest terrorist attack in history. Nope. Nothing happened on September 11th 2001. Nothing at all. (this was sarcastic btw)

Whatever. If Clinton blames her loss in the 2016 election based on only her gender, and Obama making fun of those who "cling to their guns and religion", then I can't imagine how much worse/better "center left" in Europe may be.

Europe is still cool because of it's people and culture, but not it's modern politics.

[Fansania]

Ah yes, America where center right politicians like Obama and Clinton are now ""far left"".

Europe is only "far left" if you forget Hungry and Poland existed. Even then it's center left.

It's getting old. Group A gets angry because Group B is gaining more influence or power & tries to hold on to power.

If the United States gets a left-wing equivalent of Trump as their President I'll consider the balance of power overly-shifted towards the left and we can complain about that. Until then, some of us could do with being less dramatic.

Isn't AOC and a few other of the more radical dems an example for that?

[The Alma Mater]

It's getting old. Group A gets angry because Group B is gaining more influence or power & tries to hold on to power.

If the United States gets a left-wing equivalent of Trump as their President I'll consider the balance of power overly-shifted towards the left and we can complain about that. Until then, some of us could do with being less dramatic.

Isn't AOC and a few other of the more radical dems an example for that?

Centrists are not "extreme".