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Postby Toronina » Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:16 am

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Toronina wrote:It does matter though. You claimed they're swarming across the border. How about you back up your claim?

You wouldn't know replacement even if it painted itself purple and danced naked on a piano. You can speak your own language, the far right is empowered in Australia, you can still hold a job, buy a house, go to school, learn about your nation and history. In fact said history is white washed and glosses over the various injustices indigenous people have faced.

You don't have the slightest clue what being replaced is like, because it isn't happening to you.


How about the rural property owners in Texas who have to deal with unidentified illegal immigrants crossing over their land and not knowing if they’ll become violent or demand something from them? They are swarming over the border. It is quite simply an invasion brought on by the Biden administration literally telling illegals to come here. Border checkpoints and detention centers are overcrowded and border patrol can’t possibly keep up with the volume that are entering the US.

So yes, they are coming in high volume across the border. It is an invasion of drugs, child trafficking, and undocumented individuals into the US. They should’ve stayed where they were and tried to fix their own country.


Ah right wingers. Biden is telling immigrants to come here and cross the border yet at the same time right wingers criticise him for keeping Trumps system in place
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Postby Toronina » Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:17 am

Austreylia wrote:
Toronina wrote:Scott Morrison is Prime Minister. Peter Dutton is defence minister. Unless you mean to claim that both of them are secret lefties, it's a good example right there.

Neither are "far-right" at all.

Dutton gets roundly-fucked whenever he says something deemed controversial by twitter-users or the tabloids.


If you dont think they're far right then literally no one is far right to you st all. Pretty convient position to have, when they embody all the personality of the far right
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Postby Austreylia » Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:20 am

Toronina wrote:Ah right wingers. Biden is telling immigrants to come here and cross the border yet at the same time right wingers criticise him for keeping Trumps system in place

As much as I liked Trump, his measures were still ineffective.

Biden gets criticised because, whilst he criticised these measures, he still kept them in place.
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Postby Neu California » Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:39 am

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Toronina wrote:It does matter though. You claimed they're swarming across the border. How about you back up your claim?

You wouldn't know replacement even if it painted itself purple and danced naked on a piano. You can speak your own language, the far right is empowered in Australia, you can still hold a job, buy a house, go to school, learn about your nation and history. In fact said history is white washed and glosses over the various injustices indigenous people have faced.

You don't have the slightest clue what being replaced is like, because it isn't happening to you.


How about the rural property owners in Texas who have to deal with unidentified illegal immigrants crossing over their land and not knowing if they’ll become violent or demand something from them? They are swarming over the border. It is quite simply an invasion brought on by the Biden administration literally telling illegals to come here. Border checkpoints and detention centers are overcrowded and border patrol can’t possibly keep up with the volume that are entering the US.

So yes, they are coming in high volume across the border. It is an invasion of drugs, child trafficking, and undocumented individuals into the US. They should’ve stayed where they were and tried to fix their own country.

[Citation Needed] on the Biden administration literally telling illegals to come here.

All I can find on the topic is Biden undoing some of Trump's nastier policies, while still letting the border patrol capture and deport most people coming over illegally (the exception being unaccompanied children).
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Postby The Alma Mater » Tue Apr 27, 2021 5:19 am

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Toronina wrote:It does matter though. You claimed they're swarming across the border. How about you back up your claim?

You wouldn't know replacement even if it painted itself purple and danced naked on a piano. You can speak your own language, the far right is empowered in Australia, you can still hold a job, buy a house, go to school, learn about your nation and history. In fact said history is white washed and glosses over the various injustices indigenous people have faced.

You don't have the slightest clue what being replaced is like, because it isn't happening to you.


How about the rural property owners in Texas who have to deal with unidentified illegal immigrants crossing over their land and not knowing if they’ll become violent or demand something from them? They are swarming over the border. It is quite simply an invasion brought on by the Biden administration literally telling illegals to come here. Border checkpoints and detention centers are overcrowded and border patrol can’t possibly keep up with the volume that are entering the US.

Is it not the fault of Trump who ordered the construction of lots of new roads straight to the border for his construction crews ?
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Postby Grenvolk » Tue Apr 27, 2021 5:28 am

Austreylia wrote:
Toronina wrote:Scott Morrison is Prime Minister. Peter Dutton is defence minister. Unless you mean to claim that both of them are secret lefties, it's a good example right there.

Neither are "far-right" at all.

Dutton gets roundly-fucked whenever he says something deemed controversial by twitter-users or the tabloids.

Dutton is extremely far right dude, wth are you talking about

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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Tue Apr 27, 2021 5:43 am

Mercatus wrote:
Toronina wrote:It does matter though. You claimed they're swarming across the border. How about you back up your claim?

You wouldn't know replacement even if it painted itself purple and danced naked on a piano. You can speak your own language, the far right is empowered in Australia, you can still hold a job, buy a house, go to school, learn about your nation and history. In fact said history is white washed and glosses over the various injustices indigenous people have faced.

You don't have the slightest clue what being replaced is like, because it isn't happening to you.


How about the rural property owners in Texas who have to deal with unidentified illegal immigrants crossing over their land and not knowing if they’ll become violent or demand something from them? They are swarming over the border. It is quite simply an invasion brought on by the Biden administration literally telling illegals to come here. Border checkpoints and detention centers are overcrowded and border patrol can’t possibly keep up with the volume that are entering the US.

So yes, they are coming in high volume across the border. It is an invasion of drugs, child trafficking, and undocumented individuals into the US. They should’ve stayed where they were and tried to fix their own country.

You know nothing about power dynamics if you think the people fleeing to the US are in any position to really change their country before it’s too late for them. It’s hard to fight for structural change if you don’t know if you can eat next week, or whether your family will be killed. And on top of that, the kind of structural change that is needed, social programs and capital regulation, would be opposed by both the US and you personally.

Oh, and do you actually know of instances of Texan land owners being attacked by refugees? Or are you just making up scary things to frighten yourself, Fox News style? Those Texan farmers you are so worried about can only make a profit because of the undocumented labourers they exploit, whom are too scared to rise up because ICE might deport them if they complain about labour standards.

Your fear and anger is so misguided, jesus...
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Tue Apr 27, 2021 5:44 am

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Mercatus wrote:
How about the rural property owners in Texas who have to deal with unidentified illegal immigrants crossing over their land and not knowing if they’ll become violent or demand something from them? They are swarming over the border. It is quite simply an invasion brought on by the Biden administration literally telling illegals to come here. Border checkpoints and detention centers are overcrowded and border patrol can’t possibly keep up with the volume that are entering the US.

So yes, they are coming in high volume across the border. It is an invasion of drugs, child trafficking, and undocumented individuals into the US. They should’ve stayed where they were and tried to fix their own country.

[Citation Needed] on the Biden administration literally telling illegals to come here.

All I can find on the topic is Biden undoing some of Trump's nastier policies, while still letting the border patrol capture and deport most people coming over illegally (the exception being unaccompanied children).

There was a Ben Garrison cartoon saying that, so it has to be true.
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Postby Elwher » Tue Apr 27, 2021 5:55 am

Ayytaly wrote:
Elwher wrote:Politically motivated violence is the language of those who believe that their side is losing. In the 70's, the right was ascendant and the radical left felt that violence was the only possible action, hence the riots, bombings, bank jobs, etc. Today, the left is on the ascendance and the radical right feels that they must stop it by any means possible.

The progressives/leftists should almost welcome the fact that the radical right is reacting in this fashion; it means that they are winning the culture wars.

Does that mean there's gonna be right-wing hippies being stomped out by left-wing state police in riot gear in the next 5 years?


Ashli Babbitt was only the first one. I have no doubt there will be more.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Apr 27, 2021 5:59 am

Mercatus wrote:
Toronina wrote:It does matter though. You claimed they're swarming across the border. How about you back up your claim?

You wouldn't know replacement even if it painted itself purple and danced naked on a piano. You can speak your own language, the far right is empowered in Australia, you can still hold a job, buy a house, go to school, learn about your nation and history. In fact said history is white washed and glosses over the various injustices indigenous people have faced.

You don't have the slightest clue what being replaced is like, because it isn't happening to you.


How about the rural property owners in Texas who have to deal with unidentified illegal immigrants crossing over their land and not knowing if they’ll become violent or demand something from them? They are swarming over the border. It is quite simply an invasion brought on by the Biden administration literally telling illegals to come here. Border checkpoints and detention centers are overcrowded and border patrol can’t possibly keep up with the volume that are entering the US.

So yes, they are coming in high volume across the border. It is an invasion of drugs, child trafficking, and undocumented individuals into the US. They should’ve stayed where they were and tried to fix their own country.


I'm sure if this country went straight down the toilet, you'd be fleeing across the border to Canada. Please, fixing a country isn't easy and if you got kids, you're not gonna risk their life just to try to "fix your country." I don't blame illegals for what they do at all. I would do it without remorse if I had to. I think 99% of people here would too.

Anyone who thinks the border crisis is an invasion hasn't lived through an invasion. The people of Mount Sinjar could tell you what an actual invasion looks like.
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Postby Elwher » Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:00 am

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Elwher wrote:Politically motivated violence is the language of those who believe that their side is losing. In the 70's, the right was ascendant and the radical left felt that violence was the only possible action, hence the riots, bombings, bank jobs, etc. Today, the left is on the ascendance and the radical right feels that they must stop it by any means possible.

The progressives/leftists should almost welcome the fact that the radical right is reacting in this fashion; it means that they are winning the culture wars.

There is no culture war. It’s a made-up phenomenon that the right is by definition always losing, because it was made up to spark outrage. Palingenetic ultranationalists are always losing, that is their ideology, and they use that to justify their violence. But in terms of governmental power and societal influence, the far right is definitely gaining.


Short term, maybe. Just in my lifetime legal discrimination has been removed, same-sex and interracial marriages have become legal, poll taxes and literacy tests have been banned; these are examples of where the progressive/left has won (and I am not complaining about them, they are good things). This is, however, the sort of things the radical right feels must be reversed.
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Postby Diarcesia » Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:33 am

Not sure how these relate to US terrorism.

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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:47 am

Austreylia wrote:
Toronina wrote:Most "illegal" immigrants overstay visas. Very few try and pass the border wall because it's extremely dangerous.

It doesn't matter. Illegal is illegal.

So what? Is there something immoral about simply being an illegal immigrant?
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Postby Conservative Republic Of Huang » Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:49 am

Mercatus wrote:
Toronina wrote:It does matter though. You claimed they're swarming across the border. How about you back up your claim?

You wouldn't know replacement even if it painted itself purple and danced naked on a piano. You can speak your own language, the far right is empowered in Australia, you can still hold a job, buy a house, go to school, learn about your nation and history. In fact said history is white washed and glosses over the various injustices indigenous people have faced.

You don't have the slightest clue what being replaced is like, because it isn't happening to you.


How about the rural property owners in Texas who have to deal with unidentified illegal immigrants crossing over their land and not knowing if they’ll become violent or demand something from them? They are swarming over the border. It is quite simply an invasion brought on by the Biden administration literally telling illegals to come here. Border checkpoints and detention centers are overcrowded and border patrol can’t possibly keep up with the volume that are entering the US.

So yes, they are coming in high volume across the border. It is an invasion of drugs, child trafficking, and undocumented individuals into the US. They should’ve stayed where they were and tried to fix their own country.

You talk about how left-libertarianism is contradictory, but you right-libertarians contort yourselves so so hard to justify anything from hard borders to straight up segregation.
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:50 am

Diarcesia wrote:Not sure how these relate to US terrorism.

Because of the Enemy that is both weak and strong, and the conspiracy to bring down the US which justifies any kind of violence.

That's basically why this thread keeps slipping up, I think. The only defence is 'the left is worst because...' or 'the violence is understandable, because...'

It's a window into an ideology which has a basis in a cult of action, a veneration of violence and a foundation in the conspiratorial.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Apr 27, 2021 11:42 am

Austreylia wrote:
Toronina wrote:Most "illegal" immigrants overstay visas. Very few try and pass the border wall because it's extremely dangerous.

It doesn't matter. Illegal is illegal.


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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Tue Apr 27, 2021 11:46 am

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Toronina wrote:Most "illegal" immigrants overstay visas. Very few try and pass the border wall because it's extremely dangerous.

It doesn't matter. Illegal is illegal.

I have the feeling that your positivism does not extend to every single legal provision, strangely enough...
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Postby Diarcesia » Tue Apr 27, 2021 11:47 am

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Diarcesia wrote:Not sure how these relate to US terrorism.

Because of the Enemy that is both weak and strong, and the conspiracy to bring down the US which justifies any kind of violence.

That's basically why this thread keeps slipping up, I think. The only defence is 'the left is worst because...' or 'the violence is understandable, because...'

It's a window into an ideology which has a basis in a cult of action, a veneration of violence and a foundation in the conspiratorial.

For me, the difference is that the motivation to terror is more direct and proactive on the right-wing violence. Right here in NS, we have a few leftists who defend last year's riots as a way to deal with systemic problems in society ("we are unheard, so we riot"). The difference in the latter is that it's reactive violence.

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Postby Vassenor » Tue Apr 27, 2021 11:50 am

Austreylia wrote:
Toronina wrote:Most "illegal" immigrants overstay visas. Very few try and pass the border wall because it's extremely dangerous.

It doesn't matter. Illegal is illegal.


Things that were also legal: The Holocaust. Segregation. Slave trading.
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Postby Kubra » Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:04 pm

Mercatus wrote:
Toronina wrote:It does matter though. You claimed they're swarming across the border. How about you back up your claim?

You wouldn't know replacement even if it painted itself purple and danced naked on a piano. You can speak your own language, the far right is empowered in Australia, you can still hold a job, buy a house, go to school, learn about your nation and history. In fact said history is white washed and glosses over the various injustices indigenous people have faced.

You don't have the slightest clue what being replaced is like, because it isn't happening to you.


How about the rural property owners in Texas who have to deal with unidentified illegal immigrants crossing over their land and not knowing if they’ll become violent or demand something from them? They are swarming over the border. It is quite simply an invasion brought on by the Biden administration literally telling illegals to come here. Border checkpoints and detention centers are overcrowded and border patrol can’t possibly keep up with the volume that are entering the US.

So yes, they are coming in high volume across the border. It is an invasion of drugs, child trafficking, and undocumented individuals into the US. They should’ve stayed where they were and tried to fix their own country.
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Postby The Rich Port » Tue Apr 27, 2021 1:49 pm

Ya know I wanna disagree.

But Tucker Carlson literally promoted the other day to call the police on people wearing masks when it's "inappropriate" and to harass people who do it.

So I can't.

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The Rich Port wrote:Ya know I wanna disagree.

But Tucker Carlson literally promoted the other day to call the police on people wearing masks when it's "inappropriate" and to harass people who do it.

So I can't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVC7VYl ... PakmanShow


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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Tue Apr 27, 2021 1:50 pm

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Austreylia wrote:The far-right isn't empowered anywhere in the world.


Scott Morrison is Prime Minister. Peter Dutton is defence minister. Unless you mean to claim that both of them are secret lefties, it's a good example right there.

Scott Morrison is far right?
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Mercatus wrote:
How about the rural property owners in Texas who have to deal with unidentified illegal immigrants crossing over their land and not knowing if they’ll become violent or demand something from them? They are swarming over the border. It is quite simply an invasion brought on by the Biden administration literally telling illegals to come here. Border checkpoints and detention centers are overcrowded and border patrol can’t possibly keep up with the volume that are entering the US.

So yes, they are coming in high volume across the border. It is an invasion of drugs, child trafficking, and undocumented individuals into the US. They should’ve stayed where they were and tried to fix their own country.

You talk about how left-libertarianism is contradictory, but you right-libertarians contort yourselves so so hard to justify anything from hard borders to straight up segregation.

I think Mercatus is a waterlemon
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Postby The Rich Port » Tue Apr 27, 2021 1:57 pm

Suriyanakhon wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:Ya know I wanna disagree.

But Tucker Carlson literally promoted the other day to call the police on people wearing masks when it's "inappropriate" and to harass people who do it.

So I can't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVC7VYl ... PakmanShow


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