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Postby Toronina » Tue Apr 27, 2021 1:17 am

Viennaria wrote:
Alcala-Cordel wrote:You'd also think they'd cover their faces like their predecessors did

Also, it was the democrats that supported the racist movements and slavery, while the Radical Republicans did all they could during Reconstruction to put a stop to the violence and give African Americans equal rights.


Meanwhile the Republicans at every corner claim the heritage of the Confederates. Which is it? How can can Democrars be the real racists and Confederates, while at the exact same time the Republicans claim they are the party of the South, of General Lee?
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Postby CoraSpia » Tue Apr 27, 2021 1:29 am

Toronina wrote:
Viennaria wrote:Also, it was the democrats that supported the racist movements and slavery, while the Radical Republicans did all they could during Reconstruction to put a stop to the violence and give African Americans equal rights.


Meanwhile the Republicans at every corner claim the heritage of the Confederates. Which is it? How can can Democrars be the real racists and Confederates, while at the exact same time the Republicans claim they are the party of the South, of General Lee?

What are you talking about? It's southern states that claim the heritage of the South, they just happen to largely be led by republicans.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Tue Apr 27, 2021 1:36 am

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Toronina wrote:
Meanwhile the Republicans at every corner claim the heritage of the Confederates. Which is it? How can can Democrars be the real racists and Confederates, while at the exact same time the Republicans claim they are the party of the South, of General Lee?

What are you talking about? It's southern states that claim the heritage of the South, they just happen to largely be led by republicans.


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Postby Vassenor » Tue Apr 27, 2021 1:39 am

Toronina wrote:
Viennaria wrote:Also, it was the democrats that supported the racist movements and slavery, while the Radical Republicans did all they could during Reconstruction to put a stop to the violence and give African Americans equal rights.


Meanwhile the Republicans at every corner claim the heritage of the Confederates. Which is it? How can can Democrars be the real racists and Confederates, while at the exact same time the Republicans claim they are the party of the South, of General Lee?


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Postby Toronina » Tue Apr 27, 2021 2:07 am

CoraSpia wrote:
Toronina wrote:
Meanwhile the Republicans at every corner claim the heritage of the Confederates. Which is it? How can can Democrars be the real racists and Confederates, while at the exact same time the Republicans claim they are the party of the South, of General Lee?

What are you talking about? It's southern states that claim the heritage of the South, they just happen to largely be led by republicans.


I'm talking about numerous Republican politicians flying the Confederate flag, many Republicans proclaiming they are the Confederates legacy, their heritage, how many Republicans spout the lost cause myth, or demand Confederate monuments, placed there during the Jim Crow, be left alone.

If you honestly don't know what I'm talking about, you either haven't done much research, haven't read the news lately, or you've been wilfully ignoring it because it doesn't fit your world
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Apr 27, 2021 2:12 am

Please Scroll Down to the 4th Video: https://mobile.twitter.com/L0m3z/status ... 6143681547
I strongly condemn any Persons, white, black, Hispanic, Asian, or whatever of whatever Political Ideology beating up any Persons. Please condemn these Persons on this video? A Few Black Persons are beating an old white guy at the Airport, I think the Security Guards and Police I think took a long time getting there to break up the beating, and did not do much. The Poster who Posted this video, says somebody call a Social Worker? obviously he doesn't mean it, and says it to Prove his Point and my Point, the Social Worker would Probably get beat up too.
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Postby Neu California » Tue Apr 27, 2021 2:21 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:Please Scroll Down to the 4th Video: https://mobile.twitter.com/L0m3z/status ... 6143681547
I strongly condemn any Persons, white, black, Hispanic, Asian, or whatever of whatever Political Ideology beating up any Persons. Please condemn these Persons on this video? A Few Black Persons are beating an old white guy at the Airport, I think the Security Guards and Police took a long time getting there to break up the beating, and did almost nothing. The Poster who Posted this video, says somebody call a Social Worker? obviously he doesn't mean it, and says it to Prove his Point and my Point, the Social Worker would Probably get beat up too.

I'm seeing no video of what you're talking about. Try a direct link, plus some context.

Regardless, one incident is not equivalent to all the instances of right-wing terror that have been documented since 2002
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Apr 27, 2021 2:23 am

Neu California wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:Please Scroll Down to the 4th Video: https://mobile.twitter.com/L0m3z/status ... 6143681547
I strongly condemn any Persons, white, black, Hispanic, Asian, or whatever of whatever Political Ideology beating up any Persons. Please condemn these Persons on this video? A Few Black Persons are beating an old white guy at the Airport, I think the Security Guards and Police took a long time getting there to break up the beating, and did almost nothing. The Poster who Posted this video, says somebody call a Social Worker? obviously he doesn't mean it, and says it to Prove his Point and my Point, the Social Worker would Probably get beat up too.

I'm seeing no video of what you're talking about. Try a direct link, plus some context.

Regardless, one incident is not equivalent to all the instances of right-wing terror that have been documented since 2002

I said Please scroll down to the 4th video, I have stated many times I am tech stupid. This link was posted by another right winger with his or hers comments not mine. It doesn't matter who commits more violence or less violence, violence is violence and we should all condemn violence, to all of you, Please condemn this violence?
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Tue Apr 27, 2021 2:23 am

Elwher wrote:Politically motivated violence is the language of those who believe that their side is losing. In the 70's, the right was ascendant and the radical left felt that violence was the only possible action, hence the riots, bombings, bank jobs, etc. Today, the left is on the ascendance and the radical right feels that they must stop it by any means possible.

The progressives/leftists should almost welcome the fact that the radical right is reacting in this fashion; it means that they are winning the culture wars.

There is no culture war. It’s a made-up phenomenon that the right is by definition always losing, because it was made up to spark outrage. Palingenetic ultranationalists are always losing, that is their ideology, and they use that to justify their violence. But in terms of governmental power and societal influence, the far right is definitely gaining.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Apr 27, 2021 2:35 am

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Elwher wrote:Politically motivated violence is the language of those who believe that their side is losing. In the 70's, the right was ascendant and the radical left felt that violence was the only possible action, hence the riots, bombings, bank jobs, etc. Today, the left is on the ascendance and the radical right feels that they must stop it by any means possible.

The progressives/leftists should almost welcome the fact that the radical right is reacting in this fashion; it means that they are winning the culture wars.

There is no culture war. It’s a made-up phenomenon that the right is by definition always losing, because it was made up to spark outrage. Palingenetic ultranationalists are always losing, that is their ideology, and they use that to justify their violence. But in terms of governmental power and societal influence, the far right is definitely gaining.

The cultural war was made up by the biased, partisan, anti Republican, Anti Trump, leftist media.
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Postby Neu California » Tue Apr 27, 2021 2:41 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:There is no culture war. It’s a made-up phenomenon that the right is by definition always losing, because it was made up to spark outrage. Palingenetic ultranationalists are always losing, that is their ideology, and they use that to justify their violence. But in terms of governmental power and societal influence, the far right is definitely gaining.

The cultural war was made up by the biased, partisan, anti Republican, Anti Trump, leftist media.

[Citation Needed]
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Postby Toronina » Tue Apr 27, 2021 2:51 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:There is no culture war. It’s a made-up phenomenon that the right is by definition always losing, because it was made up to spark outrage. Palingenetic ultranationalists are always losing, that is their ideology, and they use that to justify their violence. But in terms of governmental power and societal influence, the far right is definitely gaining.

The cultural war was made up by the biased, partisan, anti Republican, Anti Trump, leftist media.


As a biased, partisan, anti Republican, anti Trump Lefist, no we didn't. We aren't the ones proclaiming a culture war. We don't promote Nazi conspiracies like cultural Marxism (literslly just rebranded cultural Bolshevism), we don't lie and say we're being replaced by foreigners.

It's Republicans talking about a culture war against them. Not the other way around.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Apr 27, 2021 2:52 am

Neu California wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:The cultural war was made up by the biased, partisan, anti Republican, Anti Trump, leftist media.

[Citation Needed]

I can assure all of you they strongly agree with me and strongly disagree with you guys on this issue and all issues we strongly disagree on. You guys can say the opposite about our side without any citations and we can't say the same about your side without any citations? Fair is Fair, balanced and Democratic? What does it matter anyway, anything we say, post and link too from whatever sources always gets not accepted and dismissed anyway?
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Postby Austreylia » Tue Apr 27, 2021 2:56 am

Toronina wrote:we don't lie and say we're being replaced by foreigners.

Correct, you don't say it.

But you gloat about it and then fly into a rage whenever someone points it out.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Apr 27, 2021 2:56 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Neu California wrote:[Citation Needed]

I can assure all of you they strongly agree with me and strongly disagree with you guys on this issue and all issues we strongly disagree on. You guys can say the opposite about our side without any citations and we can't say the same about your side without any citations? Fair is Fair, balanced and Democratic? What does it matter anyway, anything we say, link too from whatever sources always get not accepted and dismissed anyway?


So you have no evidence to support your claims but want us to accept them as facts anyway.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Apr 27, 2021 2:58 am

Vassenor wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:I can assure all of you they strongly agree with me and strongly disagree with you guys on this issue and all issues we strongly disagree on. You guys can say the opposite about our side without any citations and we can't say the same about your side without any citations? Fair is Fair, balanced and Democratic? What does it matter anyway, anything we say, link too from whatever sources always get not accepted and dismissed anyway?


So you have no evidence to support your claims but want us to accept them as facts anyway.

If you like to put it that way, so do you guys on all issues on your side and views, we are even. I can post links, but you all know you don't like my right wing sources anyway, I don't like your leftists sources, but I don't question them, I just strongly disagree with them and I leave it there on all issues. A few leftist Persons asked me to Post, comment from and link from an acceptable source too them, I have never seen anyone ask anyone to post from a news source that is acceptable to them, what a coincidence those news sources agree with the persons views who strongly disagrees with mine, what a coincidence.
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Postby Toronina » Tue Apr 27, 2021 3:00 am

Austreylia wrote:
Toronina wrote:we don't lie and say we're being replaced by foreigners.

Correct, you don't say it.

But you gloat about it and then fly into a rage whenever someone points it out.


So it's okay for white people to do it but God forbid a minority move into your nation because yours can't keep its hands out of it?
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Postby Neu California » Tue Apr 27, 2021 3:01 am

Austreylia wrote:
Toronina wrote:we don't lie and say we're being replaced by foreigners.

Correct, you don't say it.

But you gloat about it and then fly into a rage whenever someone points it out.

How can someone gloat about something without talking about it?

Also, I'm pretty sure that it's the right who does most of the raging about this nonexistent issue.
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Postby Austreylia » Tue Apr 27, 2021 3:05 am

Toronina wrote:
Austreylia wrote:Correct, you don't say it.

But you gloat about it and then fly into a rage whenever someone points it out.


So it's okay for white people to do it but God forbid a minority move into your nation because yours can't keep its hands out of it?

Nope, I've said time and time again that whites should stay out of their nations, and they should stay out of ours.
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Tue Apr 27, 2021 3:05 am

Austreylia wrote:
Toronina wrote:we don't lie and say we're being replaced by foreigners.

Correct, you don't say it.

But you gloat about it and then fly into a rage whenever someone points it out.

It’s not happening, though. If you know the first thing about economics, demographics, or history and propaganda, you know that the Great Replacement is a lie. It’s not happening.
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Postby Austreylia » Tue Apr 27, 2021 3:06 am

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:It’s not happening, though. If you know the first thing about economics, demographics, or history and propaganda, you know that the Great Replacement is a lie. It’s not happening.

Well, it is happening.

All you've got to do is look around.
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Postby Neu California » Tue Apr 27, 2021 3:08 am

Austreylia wrote:
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:It’s not happening, though. If you know the first thing about economics, demographics, or history and propaganda, you know that the Great Replacement is a lie. It’s not happening.

Well, it is happening.

All you've got to do is look around.

*Looks around*

*Sees nothing like what the great replacement conspiracy theory postulates*
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Postby Austreylia » Tue Apr 27, 2021 3:10 am

Neu California wrote:*Looks around*

*Sees nothing like what the great replacement conspiracy theory postulates*

I'd imagine it's because you don't tend to see anything around you aside from four walls.
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Postby Toronina » Tue Apr 27, 2021 3:12 am

Austreylia wrote:
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:It’s not happening, though. If you know the first thing about economics, demographics, or history and propaganda, you know that the Great Replacement is a lie. It’s not happening.

Well, it is happening.

All you've got to do is look around.


Guessing by your flag your Australian. I live in the same nation. I don't see what you're talking about. I see white people everywhere even though you claim that we're (I'm assuming your white, correct me if I'm wrong) replaced. And when I do see non white people, they're either Aboriginals, or immigrants who celebrate the same customs as us, dress the same as us, they shop where we do.

Isn't that what you want? Immigrants to adopt our culture? Because from what I see that's exactly what they do.
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Postby Austreylia » Tue Apr 27, 2021 3:17 am

Toronina wrote:Isn't that what you want? Immigrants to adopt our culture? Because from what I see that's exactly what they do.

That's definitely not what I see.
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