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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Apr 25, 2021 12:43 pm

Diarcesia wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:And that's why it is called "Cultural Marxism" by some, even though Marx probably thought class was really one of the only important identities. It's just applying that logic to other areas, though interestingly enough, it can exist without Marxist concepts of class. It is similar to Marixsm (in some areas) and is compatible with it, but it can stand alone too.

Looks like we found a left-wing equivalent to the right's "Social Darwinism."

But yeah, as far as terrorism as "doing violent actions to coerce a government to a specific goal," it's more of a right-wing thing nowadays in the US. A left-wing equivalent would be rebels on the vein of Che Guevara and Fidel Castro. Last year's riots don't fit the definition. And yes, I condemn those riots, too, before you ask.


Exactly. The riots sucked. Burning down Wendy's didn't stop black people from getting killed by cops.

The disorganised and non-united way the riots happened clearly makes it non terrorism.

It was still shitty. Riots suck ass. Don't do them.


The Jan 6th Terrorist attack had a larger goal and was slightly more organized and focused on that larger goal.



Overall, Trump brand terrorism is evil and should stop. Black lives do matter, black people shouldn't be killed over non violent alleged crimes. But burning down shit doesn't change anything.

Oh and fuck corporations that try to use popular political things as a means to sell there cheep Chinese made garbage.
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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Diarcesia wrote:Looks like we found a left-wing equivalent to the right's "Social Darwinism."

But yeah, as far as terrorism as "doing violent actions to coerce a government to a specific goal," it's more of a right-wing thing nowadays in the US. A left-wing equivalent would be rebels on the vein of Che Guevara and Fidel Castro. Last year's riots don't fit the definition. And yes, I condemn those riots, too, before you ask.


Exactly. The riots sucked. Burning down Wendy's didn't stop black people from getting killed by cops.

The disorganised and non-united way the riots happened clearly makes it non terrorism.

It was still shitty. Riots suck ass. Don't do them.


The Jan 6th Terrorist attack had a larger goal and was slightly more organized and focused on that larger goal.



Overall, Trump brand terrorism is evil and should stop. Black lives do matter, black people shouldn't be killed over non violent alleged crimes. But burning down shit doesn't change anything.

Oh and fuck corporations that try to use popular political things as a means to sell there cheep Chinese made garbage.


From a formal, legalistic viewpoint, the Jan. 6 attacks were obvious terrorism; the arson and looting over the summer were a somewhat harder sell but could still be presented to a jury as such due to the correlation with the protests.

From the viewpoint of the victims, both qualify. The Congresscritters were terrified by the mobs, so were the shopkeepers.

Terrorism by whatever name is evil and needs to stop. If the practitioners will not do so voluntarily, the forces of the State need to step in to make them stop.
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Postby North Washington Republic » Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:37 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Diarcesia wrote:Looks like we found a left-wing equivalent to the right's "Social Darwinism."

But yeah, as far as terrorism as "doing violent actions to coerce a government to a specific goal," it's more of a right-wing thing nowadays in the US. A left-wing equivalent would be rebels on the vein of Che Guevara and Fidel Castro. Last year's riots don't fit the definition. And yes, I condemn those riots, too, before you ask.


Exactly. The riots sucked. Burning down Wendy's didn't stop black people from getting killed by cops.

The disorganised and non-united way the riots happened clearly makes it non terrorism.

It was still shitty. Riots suck ass. Don't do them.


The Jan 6th Terrorist attack had a larger goal and was slightly more organized and focused on that larger goal.



Overall, Trump brand terrorism is evil and should stop. Black lives do matter, black people shouldn't be killed over non violent alleged crimes. But burning down shit doesn't change anything.

Oh and fuck corporations that try to use popular political things as a means to sell there cheep Chinese made garbage.


Well, I consider the January 6th MAGA terrorist attack just that. A terrorist attack. I also consider the burning of my local police station and mass destruction that happened in my city during the last summer a form of terrorism as well. ;)
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Postby Dejado Atras » Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:40 pm

North Washington Republic wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Exactly. The riots sucked. Burning down Wendy's didn't stop black people from getting killed by cops.

The disorganised and non-united way the riots happened clearly makes it non terrorism.

It was still shitty. Riots suck ass. Don't do them.


The Jan 6th Terrorist attack had a larger goal and was slightly more organized and focused on that larger goal.



Overall, Trump brand terrorism is evil and should stop. Black lives do matter, black people shouldn't be killed over non violent alleged crimes. But burning down shit doesn't change anything.

Oh and fuck corporations that try to use popular political things as a means to sell there cheep Chinese made garbage.


Well, I consider the January 6th MAGA terrorist attack just that. A terrorist attack. I also consider the burning of my local police station and mass destruction that happened in my city during the last summer a form of terrorism as well. ;)


To this day I maintain both of those instances/examples as chaotic riots not true terrorist attacks.
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Postby Diarcesia » Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:42 pm

Dejado Atras wrote:
North Washington Republic wrote:
Well, I consider the January 6th MAGA terrorist attack just that. A terrorist attack. I also consider the burning of my local police station and mass destruction that happened in my city during the last summer a form of terrorism as well. ;)


To this day I maintain both of those instances/examples as chaotic riots not true terrorist attacks.

Why? If you did explain it before I must have missed it.

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Postby North Washington Republic » Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:42 pm

Dejado Atras wrote:
North Washington Republic wrote:
Well, I consider the January 6th MAGA terrorist attack just that. A terrorist attack. I also consider the burning of my local police station and mass destruction that happened in my city during the last summer a form of terrorism as well. ;)


To this day I maintain both of those instances/examples as chaotic riots not true terrorist attacks.


I think that a mob trying to kill the Vice President absolutely constitutes as terrorism. I also think that burning down the police station and inciting a riot also constitutions as terrorism.
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Postby Nakena » Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:49 pm

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Nakena wrote:People on CNN and wokers have been demanding a "racial reckoning" in the US. That sounds awful lot like race war.

I wouldn't go that far, but it will be something not good. It is actual material that could provoke people to join white "nationalist" groups.


It sounds definetively bad. Like you know, "reckoning" gives the idea that mobs are themself arming with axes and machetes to duke it out.
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Postby North Washington Republic » Sun Apr 25, 2021 4:50 pm

Nakena wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:I wouldn't go that far, but it will be something not good. It is actual material that could provoke people to join white "nationalist" groups.


It sounds definetively bad. Like you know, "reckoning" gives the idea that mobs are themself arming with axes and machetes to duke it out.


Something tells me you wouldn’t mind a race war...
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sun Apr 25, 2021 5:35 pm

North Washington Republic wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Exactly. The riots sucked. Burning down Wendy's didn't stop black people from getting killed by cops.

The disorganised and non-united way the riots happened clearly makes it non terrorism.

It was still shitty. Riots suck ass. Don't do them.


The Jan 6th Terrorist attack had a larger goal and was slightly more organized and focused on that larger goal.



Overall, Trump brand terrorism is evil and should stop. Black lives do matter, black people shouldn't be killed over non violent alleged crimes. But burning down shit doesn't change anything.

Oh and fuck corporations that try to use popular political things as a means to sell there cheep Chinese made garbage.


Well, I consider the January 6th MAGA terrorist attack just that. A terrorist attack. I also consider the burning of my local police station and mass destruction that happened in my city during the last summer a form of terrorism as well. ;)


Oh you live in Minneapolis? Yeah the third precinct burning happened because MPD continues to abuse the people it should be serving, so maybe next time MPD will act more like police and less like a gang. Please don't compare that to a bunch of angry poor sports invading the capitol cause their man lost an election. You know they aren't the same.
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Postby Neu California » Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:36 am

Dejado Atras wrote:
North Washington Republic wrote:
Well, I consider the January 6th MAGA terrorist attack just that. A terrorist attack. I also consider the burning of my local police station and mass destruction that happened in my city during the last summer a form of terrorism as well. ;)


To this day I maintain both of those instances/examples as chaotic riots not true terrorist attacks.

I'm curious, who brings building materials for a gallows then calls for the hanging of the VP at a peaceful protest turned chaotic riot?
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Postby Arident » Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:33 am

Neu California wrote:I'm curious, who brings building materials for a gallows then calls for the hanging of the VP at a peaceful protest turned chaotic riot?

January 6th definitely wasn't planned in any "official" way, but there was definitely small groups and individuals there planning on evil.
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Postby Nakena » Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:52 am

Neu California wrote:
Dejado Atras wrote:
To this day I maintain both of those instances/examples as chaotic riots not true terrorist attacks.

I'm curious, who brings building materials for a gallows then calls for the hanging of the VP at a peaceful protest turned chaotic riot?


From the looks, I am not exactly sure it would have worked for its supposed purpose.

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Postby Vassenor » Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:51 am

Nakena wrote:
Neu California wrote:I'm curious, who brings building materials for a gallows then calls for the hanging of the VP at a peaceful protest turned chaotic riot?


From the looks, I am not exactly sure it would have worked for its supposed purpose.

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And who brings lumber like that to a spontaneous demonstration?
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Postby Elwher » Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:56 am

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From the looks, I am not exactly sure it would have worked for its supposed purpose.

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And who brings lumber like that to a spontaneous demonstration?


The same sort of person who brings Molotov cocktails to a peaceful protest?
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:27 am

Elwher wrote:
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And who brings lumber like that to a spontaneous demonstration?


The same sort of person who brings Molotov cocktails to a peaceful protest?


Cause bringing lumber is so much easier than bringing flammable liquid in a bottle. Try carrying a bottle around and then try carrying all that wood.
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Postby Picairn » Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:09 am

Elwher wrote:The same sort of person who brings Molotov cocktails to a peaceful protest?

You ever carry a log?
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:08 am

Nakena wrote:
Neu California wrote:I'm curious, who brings building materials for a gallows then calls for the hanging of the VP at a peaceful protest turned chaotic riot?


From the looks, I am not exactly sure it would have worked for its supposed purpose.

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You don't just carry wood around for no reason like that.

If the gallows was non functional, I think that's beacuse the mob of brain dead morons couldn't build a working gallows.

Most of them probably think the earth is flat, 5G towers cause covid and, masks steal oxygen from your cells or some shit.
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Postby Nakena » Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:15 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Nakena wrote:
From the looks, I am not exactly sure it would have worked for its supposed purpose.

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You dpn't just carry wood around for no reason like that.

If the gallows was non functional, I think that's beacuse the mob of brain dead morons couldn't build a working gallows.

Most of them probably think the earth is flat, 5G towers cause covid and, masks steal oxygen from your cells or some shit.


Precisely! Imagine they would actually have managed to gain hold of Pence and tried to hang him on that thing, just to have it collapse or break apart?
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Postby Rusozak » Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:34 am

Nakena wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
You dpn't just carry wood around for no reason like that.

If the gallows was non functional, I think that's beacuse the mob of brain dead morons couldn't build a working gallows.

Most of them probably think the earth is flat, 5G towers cause covid and, masks steal oxygen from your cells or some shit.


Precisely! Imagine they would actually have managed to gain hold of Pence and tried to hang him on that thing, just to have it collapse or break apart?


You'd think after years of building crosses and hanging nooses to intimidate black people they would have the carpentry and ropemaking skills to whip up something functional.
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Precisely! Imagine they would actually have managed to gain hold of Pence and tried to hang him on that thing, just to have it collapse or break apart?


You'd think after years of building crosses and hanging nooses to intimidate black people they would have the carpentry and ropemaking skills to whip up something functional.

You'd also think they'd cover their faces like their predecessors did
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Postby Viennaria » Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:33 am

The idea that the rights is more violent than the left is ridiculous. Yes, it certainly seems that way, as many major news channels blow up many white-on-black crimes, finding ways to blame them on the right, and don't even show instances of black-on-white or black-on-black crimes. The media is free from government control, which I support this free media, but this gives way to bias disguised as racism/sexism/etc. Yes, there are many instances of violence among the far right, but just as much came from the far left-wing people, such as the burnings, riots, etc. There is a peaceful way to deal with stuff, but If you try to do anything that doesn't agree with the leftist agenda, you are automatically a racist, and they paint the worst picture of you possible. I would like to be tagged for something justified, not an accusation of racism/sexism that has no justification. The left-wing media is taking advantage of the heart-wrenching history and emotions of African Americans to further their agenda, and I say that has to stop.
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Postby Viennaria » Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:34 am

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You'd think after years of building crosses and hanging nooses to intimidate black people they would have the carpentry and ropemaking skills to whip up something functional.

You'd also think they'd cover their faces like their predecessors did

Also, it was the democrats that supported the racist movements and slavery, while the Radical Republicans did all they could during Reconstruction to put a stop to the violence and give African Americans equal rights.
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Postby Omniabstracta » Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:56 am

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Alcala-Cordel wrote:You'd also think they'd cover their faces like their predecessors did

Also, it was the democrats that supported the racist movements and slavery, while the Radical Republicans did all they could during Reconstruction to put a stop to the violence and give African Americans equal rights.

It surely would be interesting to live in a reality where the Southern Strategy never happened, but I’d prefer to stay in actual one, thanks.
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Viennaria wrote:The idea that the rights is more violent than the left is ridiculous.


Hmmm? How many leftist militia groups are there versus right?

How many times has the left “protested” on capital hill to overturn an election and threatened violence against political figures?

Yes, it certainly seems that way, as many major news channels blow up many white-on-black crimes, finding ways to blame them on the right,


Well? Police tend to be conservative and IIRC they overwhelmingly supported the ex-president.

and don't even show instances of black-on-white or black-on-black crimes.


My googlefu is bad today. I remember a story where a white woman and a black man were recorded during traffic stops. There was a definite difference in approach by the police.

The media is free from government control, which I support this free media, but this gives way to bias disguised as racism/sexism/etc.


A funny thing? Game of Thrones makes me smirk every time I hear the word “but”. “Everything before the word ‘but’ is horse shit.”. There are times where that comment is very true.

It’s easier to make the claims of bias as well. Bias is a lazy measurement. Is what was reported false? Even then; on big issues; different sources are good. Neutral sources are better (ie Reuters and the AP).

Yes, there are many instances of violence among the far right, but just as much came from the far left-wing people, such as the burnings, riots, etc.


And church shootings.

There is a peaceful way to deal with stuff, but If you try to do anything that doesn't agree with the leftist agenda, you are automatically a racist, and they paint the worst picture of you possible.


“but”. ;). These are contineous times and yes you can be labeled that. Even then; you should ponder what you are saying/arguing/doing? You may think it’s nothing and yet it can be highly offensive to others.

Example; I have a couple in-laws who can’t understand why “nigger” is so offensive.

I would like to be tagged for something justified, not an accusation of racism/sexism that has no justification. The left-wing media is taking advantage of the heart-wrenching history and emotions of African Americans to further their agenda, and I say that has to stop.


Left-wing media? Labels aren’t a sign of an open mind.

People can say the right-wing media is taken advantage of situations by claiming the race card; racism; etc., etc.
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Postby Rusozak » Mon Apr 26, 2021 12:18 pm

Viennaria wrote:
Alcala-Cordel wrote:You'd also think they'd cover their faces like their predecessors did

Also, it was the democrats that supported the racist movements and slavery, while the Radical Republicans did all they could during Reconstruction to put a stop to the violence and give African Americans equal rights.


"The Democrats were the racist party 150 years ago!" is a poor argument to defend the modern day GOP. If you need to see what side is in the wrong, just look at whatever side the South supports.
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