NATION

PASSWORD

Rise of Domestic US terrorism fueled mostly by far right

For discussion and debate about anything. (Not a roleplay related forum; out-of-character commentary only.)

Advertisement

Remove ads

User avatar
Ayytaly
Minister
 
Posts: 2406
Founded: Feb 08, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Ayytaly » Sun Apr 25, 2021 9:33 am

North Washington Republic wrote:
Ayytaly wrote:
I've talked to someone who grew up in a White Nationalist family that followed David Duke. He said that most neo-Nazis in his neighborhood quickly enlisted in the Arny after 9/11. He said that, as much as they hate the Jews and "knew" that 9-11was a Mossad operation, they couldn't let the opportunity to kill a bunch of "shitskin ragheads" go away. To them, it was merely training for the so-called "race war" they're yearning for.


Thus why both white nationalists and anarchists LOVE the unrest and riots that is occurring right now. One thinks that it will incite a race war and the latter thinks it will incite class war.


Ironically, it should be the other way around.
Signatures are the obnoxious car bumper stickers of the internet. Also, Rojava did nothing right.

User avatar
North Washington Republic
Minister
 
Posts: 3090
Founded: Mar 13, 2021
Ex-Nation

Postby North Washington Republic » Sun Apr 25, 2021 9:35 am

Ayytaly wrote:
North Washington Republic wrote:
Thus why both white nationalists and anarchists LOVE the unrest and riots that is occurring right now. One thinks that it will incite a race war and the latter thinks it will incite class war.


Ironically, it should be the other way around.



Opps, I meant to type “former” not “latter”

Thanks for pointing out my typo
Last edited by North Washington Republic on Sun Apr 25, 2021 9:35 am, edited 1 time in total.
I’m a Wesleyan Christian center-left American Patriot. 29 year-old male and I live in Minneapolis, Minnesota
Pro: Jesus, The Holy Bible, Constitutional Republic, representative democracy, efficient and comprehensive welfare state, neoconservatism, civic nationalism, cannabis legalization, $15 an hour min.wage, religious liberty, LGBTQIA rights, Law & Order, police, death penalty, sensible reform of law enforcement, racial equity, peace through strength, NATO, EU
Anti: Satan, sin, anarchism, paleoconservatism, communism, libertarianism, fascism, ACAB, racism, populism, Trump(ism), Qanon, Putin, Xi, Taliban.
Economic Left/Right: -0.75. Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.67
My 8values results

GET VACCINATED ASAP AND WEAR A MASK!!!

User avatar
Odreria
Minister
 
Posts: 2309
Founded: Jun 15, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Odreria » Sun Apr 25, 2021 9:37 am

North Washington Republic wrote:
Ayytaly wrote:
Ironically, it should be the other way around.



Opps, I meant to type “former” not “latter”

Thanks for pointing out my typo

You think white nationalists want a class war?
Valrifell wrote:
Disregard whatever this poster says
Pro: Christianity, nuclear power, firearms, socialism, environmentalism
Neutral: LGBT, PRC, charter schools, larping
Anti: mind virus, globalism, racism, great reset

User avatar
Ayytaly
Minister
 
Posts: 2406
Founded: Feb 08, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Ayytaly » Sun Apr 25, 2021 9:37 am

North Washington Republic wrote:
Ayytaly wrote:
Ironically, it should be the other way around.



Opps, I meant to type “former” not “latter”

Thanks for pointing out my typo


I understood what you meant, but... you're welcome?
Signatures are the obnoxious car bumper stickers of the internet. Also, Rojava did nothing right.

User avatar
The Reformed American Republic
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 7643
Founded: May 23, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby The Reformed American Republic » Sun Apr 25, 2021 9:38 am

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Odreria wrote:Then they're not marxists.

Or cherry pickers who take influences from Marx and take parts of his ideology and mix it with other things. I have seen Marxism twisted bizarrely before, such as the Maoist Rebel News claiming that no person in the first world is a proletariat, so I do not think what I'm talking about is out to lunch.

I did not intend to move goalposts. Maybe I was wrong with saying "compatible" like it would work with pure Marxism, but I do not think I'm 100% wrong.
"It's called 'the American Dream' 'cause you have to be asleep to believe it." - George Carlin
"My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right." - Carl Schurz
Older posts do not reflect my positions.

Holocene Extinction

User avatar
Ayytaly
Minister
 
Posts: 2406
Founded: Feb 08, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Ayytaly » Sun Apr 25, 2021 9:41 am

Odreria wrote:
North Washington Republic wrote:

Opps, I meant to type “former” not “latter”

Thanks for pointing out my typo

You think white nationalists want a class war?


He said anarchists want a class war.
Signatures are the obnoxious car bumper stickers of the internet. Also, Rojava did nothing right.

User avatar
North Washington Republic
Minister
 
Posts: 3090
Founded: Mar 13, 2021
Ex-Nation

Postby North Washington Republic » Sun Apr 25, 2021 9:41 am

Odreria wrote:
North Washington Republic wrote:

Opps, I meant to type “former” not “latter”

Thanks for pointing out my typo

You think white nationalists want a class war?


I would say that some do. Some view Jews as the “elite”. In the U.S, MANY on the far-right are tying to link free market capitalism to “wokism”/“anti-whiteness”
However, the great majority white nationalists want a race war.
I’m a Wesleyan Christian center-left American Patriot. 29 year-old male and I live in Minneapolis, Minnesota
Pro: Jesus, The Holy Bible, Constitutional Republic, representative democracy, efficient and comprehensive welfare state, neoconservatism, civic nationalism, cannabis legalization, $15 an hour min.wage, religious liberty, LGBTQIA rights, Law & Order, police, death penalty, sensible reform of law enforcement, racial equity, peace through strength, NATO, EU
Anti: Satan, sin, anarchism, paleoconservatism, communism, libertarianism, fascism, ACAB, racism, populism, Trump(ism), Qanon, Putin, Xi, Taliban.
Economic Left/Right: -0.75. Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.67
My 8values results

GET VACCINATED ASAP AND WEAR A MASK!!!

User avatar
The Reformed American Republic
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 7643
Founded: May 23, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby The Reformed American Republic » Sun Apr 25, 2021 9:42 am

North Washington Republic wrote:
Odreria wrote:You think white nationalists want a class war?


I would say that some do. Some view Jews as the “elite”. In the U.S, MANY on the far-right are tying to link free market capitalism to “wokism”/“anti-whiteness”
However, the great majority white nationalists want a race war.

Matthew Heimbach did.
"It's called 'the American Dream' 'cause you have to be asleep to believe it." - George Carlin
"My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right." - Carl Schurz
Older posts do not reflect my positions.

Holocene Extinction

User avatar
Odreria
Minister
 
Posts: 2309
Founded: Jun 15, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Odreria » Sun Apr 25, 2021 9:42 am

Ayytaly wrote:
Odreria wrote:You think white nationalists want a class war?


He said anarchists want a class war.

Pretty sure "the former" out of "white nationalists and anarchists" refers to "white nationalists.
Valrifell wrote:
Disregard whatever this poster says
Pro: Christianity, nuclear power, firearms, socialism, environmentalism
Neutral: LGBT, PRC, charter schools, larping
Anti: mind virus, globalism, racism, great reset

User avatar
Nakena
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 15010
Founded: May 06, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Nakena » Sun Apr 25, 2021 9:43 am

People on CNN and wokers have been demanding a "racial reckoning" in the US. That sounds awful lot like race war.

User avatar
The Reformed American Republic
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 7643
Founded: May 23, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby The Reformed American Republic » Sun Apr 25, 2021 9:45 am

Nakena wrote:People on CNN and wokers have been demanding a "racial reckoning" in the US. That sounds awful lot like race war.

I wouldn't go that far, but it will be something not good. It is actual material that could provoke people to join white "nationalist" groups.
"It's called 'the American Dream' 'cause you have to be asleep to believe it." - George Carlin
"My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right." - Carl Schurz
Older posts do not reflect my positions.

Holocene Extinction

User avatar
Vassenor
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 66795
Founded: Nov 11, 2010
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Vassenor » Sun Apr 25, 2021 9:45 am

Nakena wrote:People on CNN and wokers have been demanding a "racial reckoning" in the US. That sounds awful lot like race war.


Really? Because googling the term just comes up with vague articles.
Jenny / Sailor Astraea
WOMAN

MtF trans and proud - She / Her / etc.
100% Asbestos Free

Team Mystic
#iamEUropean

"Have you ever had a moment online, when the need to prove someone wrong has outweighed your own self-preservation instincts?"

User avatar
Odreria
Minister
 
Posts: 2309
Founded: Jun 15, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Odreria » Sun Apr 25, 2021 9:45 am

Nakena wrote:People on CNN and wokers have been demanding a "racial reckoning" in the US. That sounds awful lot like race war.

Fox news said the words "class warfare." They must be communists.
Valrifell wrote:
Disregard whatever this poster says
Pro: Christianity, nuclear power, firearms, socialism, environmentalism
Neutral: LGBT, PRC, charter schools, larping
Anti: mind virus, globalism, racism, great reset

User avatar
Ifreann
Post Overlord
 
Posts: 159129
Founded: Aug 07, 2005
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Ifreann » Sun Apr 25, 2021 9:47 am

Nakena wrote:People on CNN and wokers have been demanding a "racial reckoning" in the US. That sounds awful lot like race war.

"wokers"
Can't imagine having to pretend to seriously use such silly words.


Odreria wrote:
Nakena wrote:People on CNN and wokers have been demanding a "racial reckoning" in the US. That sounds awful lot like race war.

Fox news said the words "class warfare." They must be communists.

Haven't you heard? Tucker Carlson is actually a socialist.

User avatar
The Reformed American Republic
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 7643
Founded: May 23, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby The Reformed American Republic » Sun Apr 25, 2021 9:48 am

Odreria wrote:
Nakena wrote:People on CNN and wokers have been demanding a "racial reckoning" in the US. That sounds awful lot like race war.

Fox news said the words "class warfare." They must be communists.

Sarcasm noted, but It just amazes me that he have so much fake populism here.
"It's called 'the American Dream' 'cause you have to be asleep to believe it." - George Carlin
"My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right." - Carl Schurz
Older posts do not reflect my positions.

Holocene Extinction

User avatar
North Washington Republic
Minister
 
Posts: 3090
Founded: Mar 13, 2021
Ex-Nation

Postby North Washington Republic » Sun Apr 25, 2021 9:52 am

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
North Washington Republic wrote:
I would say that some do. Some view Jews as the “elite”. In the U.S, MANY on the far-right are tying to link free market capitalism to “wokism”/“anti-whiteness”
However, the great majority white nationalists want a race war.

Matthew Heimbach did.


You mean the guy who had affair with his mother-in-law? He sounds like a degenerate who loves to project.
I’m a Wesleyan Christian center-left American Patriot. 29 year-old male and I live in Minneapolis, Minnesota
Pro: Jesus, The Holy Bible, Constitutional Republic, representative democracy, efficient and comprehensive welfare state, neoconservatism, civic nationalism, cannabis legalization, $15 an hour min.wage, religious liberty, LGBTQIA rights, Law & Order, police, death penalty, sensible reform of law enforcement, racial equity, peace through strength, NATO, EU
Anti: Satan, sin, anarchism, paleoconservatism, communism, libertarianism, fascism, ACAB, racism, populism, Trump(ism), Qanon, Putin, Xi, Taliban.
Economic Left/Right: -0.75. Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.67
My 8values results

GET VACCINATED ASAP AND WEAR A MASK!!!

User avatar
North Washington Republic
Minister
 
Posts: 3090
Founded: Mar 13, 2021
Ex-Nation

Postby North Washington Republic » Sun Apr 25, 2021 9:52 am

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Odreria wrote:Fox news said the words "class warfare." They must be communists.

Sarcasm noted, but It just amazes me that he have so much fake populism here.


Well, I’m NSG’s resident anti-populist. :p
I’m a Wesleyan Christian center-left American Patriot. 29 year-old male and I live in Minneapolis, Minnesota
Pro: Jesus, The Holy Bible, Constitutional Republic, representative democracy, efficient and comprehensive welfare state, neoconservatism, civic nationalism, cannabis legalization, $15 an hour min.wage, religious liberty, LGBTQIA rights, Law & Order, police, death penalty, sensible reform of law enforcement, racial equity, peace through strength, NATO, EU
Anti: Satan, sin, anarchism, paleoconservatism, communism, libertarianism, fascism, ACAB, racism, populism, Trump(ism), Qanon, Putin, Xi, Taliban.
Economic Left/Right: -0.75. Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.67
My 8values results

GET VACCINATED ASAP AND WEAR A MASK!!!

User avatar
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp
Post Czar
 
Posts: 34994
Founded: Dec 18, 2013
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Apr 25, 2021 10:03 am

North Washington Republic wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
I just don't get what Austreylia said tho.

I have been very vocal about my unhappiness with the rich class. I don't give EA or Activision or Ubisoft any microtransaction money.

While at the same time not likeing cops shooting unarmed black people and hateing racism in general.

I don't quite understand how that makes me a stooge for corporations.


No offense, but bragging that you don’t buy micro-transactions is like someone bragging that they clean up after their dog.


I wasn't trying to brag, I just used that as an example.

I never ment to be bragy.

User avatar
The Reformed American Republic
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 7643
Founded: May 23, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby The Reformed American Republic » Sun Apr 25, 2021 10:07 am

North Washington Republic wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:Matthew Heimbach did.


You mean the guy who had affair with his mother-in-law? He sounds like a degenerate who loves to project.

Yes, that violent idiot.
Last edited by The Reformed American Republic on Sun Apr 25, 2021 10:08 am, edited 1 time in total.
"It's called 'the American Dream' 'cause you have to be asleep to believe it." - George Carlin
"My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right." - Carl Schurz
Older posts do not reflect my positions.

Holocene Extinction

User avatar
Austreylia
Diplomat
 
Posts: 842
Founded: Mar 07, 2021
Ex-Nation

Postby Austreylia » Sun Apr 25, 2021 10:09 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:I don't quite understand how that makes me a stooge for corporations.

Because pretty much all of your opinions line up exactly with what corporations promote and propagate.
...we do a little trolling, it's called we do a little trolling.

User avatar
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp
Post Czar
 
Posts: 34994
Founded: Dec 18, 2013
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Apr 25, 2021 10:17 am

Austreylia wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:I don't quite understand how that makes me a stooge for corporations.

Because pretty much all of your opinions line up exactly with what corporations promote and propagate.


Examples and proof please?

I'd love to hear that my opinions such as:

Stop using China for cheep crap manufacturing

Don't put in microtransactions in videogames you have to pay for up front for

Stop putting fulltime employees as "contract workers" so that you pay less for the work they do

Don't eat up other companies just beacuse you don't want to compete with them

are now corporate standard lines of thinking

This just makes no sense to me.

Black lives matter, and so do the people corporations enslave for there cheep shit.

Unarmed black people shouldn't be shot by police, Nessie should stop using child labor to grow coco beans.
Last edited by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp on Sun Apr 25, 2021 12:30 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
Odreria
Minister
 
Posts: 2309
Founded: Jun 15, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Odreria » Sun Apr 25, 2021 10:18 am

North Washington Republic wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:Sarcasm noted, but It just amazes me that he have so much fake populism here.


Well, I’m NSG’s resident anti-populist. :p

You define yourself by your opposition to policies that favor ordinary people over elites?
Valrifell wrote:
Disregard whatever this poster says
Pro: Christianity, nuclear power, firearms, socialism, environmentalism
Neutral: LGBT, PRC, charter schools, larping
Anti: mind virus, globalism, racism, great reset

User avatar
North Washington Republic
Minister
 
Posts: 3090
Founded: Mar 13, 2021
Ex-Nation

Postby North Washington Republic » Sun Apr 25, 2021 10:23 am

Odreria wrote:
North Washington Republic wrote:
Well, I’m NSG’s resident anti-populist. :p

You define yourself by your opposition to policies that favor ordinary people over elites?


I define myself by my opposition to political extremism. And I’m unashamed institutionalist.
I’m a Wesleyan Christian center-left American Patriot. 29 year-old male and I live in Minneapolis, Minnesota
Pro: Jesus, The Holy Bible, Constitutional Republic, representative democracy, efficient and comprehensive welfare state, neoconservatism, civic nationalism, cannabis legalization, $15 an hour min.wage, religious liberty, LGBTQIA rights, Law & Order, police, death penalty, sensible reform of law enforcement, racial equity, peace through strength, NATO, EU
Anti: Satan, sin, anarchism, paleoconservatism, communism, libertarianism, fascism, ACAB, racism, populism, Trump(ism), Qanon, Putin, Xi, Taliban.
Economic Left/Right: -0.75. Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.67
My 8values results

GET VACCINATED ASAP AND WEAR A MASK!!!

User avatar
Dejado Atras
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 186
Founded: Apr 16, 2021
Ex-Nation

Postby Dejado Atras » Sun Apr 25, 2021 12:09 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Nakena wrote:People on CNN and wokers have been demanding a "racial reckoning" in the US. That sounds awful lot like race war.

I wouldn't go that far, but it will be something not good. It is actual material that could provoke people to join white "nationalist" groups.


Their dangerous rhetoric will also push many blacks towards aggressive Afrocentrist groups like NFAC.
WARNING
Unapologetically offensive.

Critical Race Theory, “Antiracism”, and “Wokeness” are prime examples of the political Horseshoe theory being based.

Stay pessimistic and nihilist white college leftists.

User avatar
Diarcesia
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6316
Founded: Aug 21, 2016
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Diarcesia » Sun Apr 25, 2021 12:30 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:Modern day intersectionalism is very reminiscent of original Marxism, in the sense certain groups are naturally oppressed by virtue of who they are. Marx focuses rather solely on class, however, while this has expanded into identity politics and buzzwords by present day

And that's why it is called "Cultural Marxism" by some, even though Marx probably thought class was really one of the only important identities. It's just applying that logic to other areas, though interestingly enough, it can exist without Marxist concepts of class. It is similar to Marixsm (in some areas) and is compatible with it, but it can stand alone too.

Looks like we found a left-wing equivalent to the right's "Social Darwinism."

But yeah, as far as terrorism as "doing violent actions to coerce a government to a specific goal," it's more of a right-wing thing nowadays in the US. A left-wing equivalent would be rebels on the vein of Che Guevara and Fidel Castro. Last year's riots don't fit the definition. And yes, I condemn those riots, too, before you ask.

PreviousNext

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to General

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Also Not FNU, Astrobolt, Comfed, Isomedia, Neu California, Northern Socialist Council Republics, Rakatnas, Senkaku, Shrillland, Socialism uwu, The Sherpa Empire, Vectrova

Advertisement

Remove ads