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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Tue May 04, 2021 5:18 am

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Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia wrote:Nor did Ilhan call for any anti-Jewish laws or parroted any discriminatory tropes. Find me a clear and irrefutable example of Ilhan Omar being antisemitic, and then we can talk. Otherwise, you are talking horseshit.

I don’t really know if she is an anti-Semite, but she certainly has some pretty awful opinions.

She bashes police for almost anything and I’m pretty sure that she appeared in an image with her daughter, and the daughter had on a necklace that read “ACAB” or some other ridiculous slogan.

“She has bad opinions. Because she dislikes police, and... ehm... her daughter, she too dislikes police!”

You got exactly one opinion before you started diverting to opinions of others.

Also, she is right.
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Postby Phenix Springs » Tue May 04, 2021 5:20 am

She’s not right, she’s just silly.

It’s a juvenile opinion to have.
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Tue May 04, 2021 5:24 am

Phenix Springs wrote:She’s not right, she’s just silly.

It’s a juvenile opinion to have.

Why?
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Postby Vassenor » Tue May 04, 2021 5:29 am

Phenix Springs wrote:She’s not right, she’s just silly.

It’s a juvenile opinion to have.


So it's not a bad thing to attack journalists and peaceful protestors?
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Postby Phenix Springs » Tue May 04, 2021 5:30 am

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Phenix Springs wrote:She’s not right, she’s just silly.

It’s a juvenile opinion to have.

Why?

Because it just causes unneeded hatred and disrespect for them.

For example, just under a year ago, I was in a car with a friend and we were pulled over. My friend was being a real handful for the cop, and when the cop returned to his car to run the license and reg, I told my friend to stop acting such an idiot.

It just makes it acceptable to treat otherwise good officers like dirt.
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Postby Neu California » Tue May 04, 2021 5:32 am

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Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:Why?

Because it just causes unneeded hatred and disrespect for them.

For example, just under a year ago, I was in a car with a friend and we were pulled over. My friend was being a real handful for the cop, and when the cop returned to his car to run the license and reg, I told my friend to stop acting such an idiot.

It just makes it acceptable to treat otherwise good officers like dirt.

Tbf, the cops aren't exactly doing any favors for their own reputation
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Postby Vassenor » Tue May 04, 2021 5:34 am

Phenix Springs wrote:
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:Why?

Because it just causes unneeded hatred and disrespect for them.

For example, just under a year ago, I was in a car with a friend and we were pulled over. My friend was being a real handful for the cop, and when the cop returned to his car to run the license and reg, I told my friend to stop acting such an idiot.

It just makes it acceptable to treat otherwise good officers like dirt.


Until the police actually take efforts to deal with the "few bad apples" what reason do we have to respect them?
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Postby Phenix Springs » Tue May 04, 2021 5:38 am

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Phenix Springs wrote:Because it just causes unneeded hatred and disrespect for them.

For example, just under a year ago, I was in a car with a friend and we were pulled over. My friend was being a real handful for the cop, and when the cop returned to his car to run the license and reg, I told my friend to stop acting such an idiot.

It just makes it acceptable to treat otherwise good officers like dirt.


Until the police actually take efforts to deal with the "few bad apples" what reason do we have to respect them?

Because they enforce the law and are the ones you’ll call if some bad thing happens.

In all those videos of violent protestors being shot by some kind of vigilante/defender, you’ll hear the people who were shouting “ACAB” minutes before immediately start shouting “run! run! call the cops!”.
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Tue May 04, 2021 5:41 am

Phenix Springs wrote:
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:Why?

Because it just causes unneeded hatred and disrespect for them.

For example, just under a year ago, I was in a car with a friend and we were pulled over. My friend was being a real handful for the cop, and when the cop returned to his car to run the license and reg, I told my friend to stop acting such an idiot.

It just makes it acceptable to treat otherwise good officers like dirt.

Hatred and disrespect? Yes.

Unecessary? Hardly.

If being berated in public is the worst you get for being part of such a problematic organisation, honestly, how bad is that? They get the power to kill and attack people with little consequence. Those people deserve mistrust.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue May 04, 2021 5:47 am

Phenix Springs wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Until the police actually take efforts to deal with the "few bad apples" what reason do we have to respect them?

Because they enforce the law and are the ones you’ll call if some bad thing happens.

In all those videos of violent protestors being shot by some kind of vigilante/defender, you’ll hear the people who were shouting “ACAB” minutes before immediately start shouting “run! run! call the cops!”.


So that makes it OK to shoot people's eyes out with rubber bullets.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue May 04, 2021 6:03 am

Phenix Springs wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Until the police actually take efforts to deal with the "few bad apples" what reason do we have to respect them?

Because they enforce the law and are the ones you’ll call if some bad thing happens.

In all those videos of violent protestors being shot by some kind of vigilante/defender, you’ll hear the people who were shouting “ACAB” minutes before immediately start shouting “run! run! call the cops!”.


idk anon, I've called EMS and Fire a few times but never once have I called the cops, and I've lived in some pretty shitty areas.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue May 04, 2021 6:04 am

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Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia wrote:Nor did Ilhan call for any anti-Jewish laws or parroted any discriminatory tropes. Find me a clear and irrefutable example of Ilhan Omar being antisemitic, and then we can talk. Otherwise, you are talking horseshit.

I don’t really know if she is an anti-Semite, but she certainly has some pretty awful opinions.

She bashes police for almost anything and I’m pretty sure that she appeared in an image with her daughter, and the daughter had on a necklace that read “ACAB” or some other ridiculous slogan.


People bash the police because they often do the opposite of what their job is when they themselves break the law. If the police can't take being criticized for abusing their authority, maybe they shouldn't be police, or even better maybe they should stop doing what they're being criticized for doing.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue May 04, 2021 7:16 am

Phenix Springs wrote:
Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia wrote:Nor did Ilhan call for any anti-Jewish laws or parroted any discriminatory tropes. Find me a clear and irrefutable example of Ilhan Omar being antisemitic, and then we can talk. Otherwise, you are talking horseshit.

I don’t really know if she is an anti-Semite, but she certainly has some pretty awful opinions.

She bashes police for almost anything and I’m pretty sure that she appeared in an image with her daughter, and the daughter had on a necklace that read “ACAB” or some other ridiculous slogan.


Oh I don’t know. Watching the cops beat up a 80 pound 70 year old woman with dementia. Denying her medical care and later laughing about the person?……They kind of earned the scorn.
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Postby Elwher » Tue May 04, 2021 10:23 am

Political Geography wrote:
Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia wrote:Nor did Ilhan call for any anti-Jewish laws or parroted any discriminatory tropes. Find me a clear and irrefutable example of Ilhan Omar being antisemitic, and then we can talk. Otherwise, you are talking horseshit.


In reply to someone else's post suggesting the GOP supports Israel because of Jewish American lobbying donations, she said "It's all about the Benjamins baby" and named the lobbyists as "AIPAC"

Within a political context, that's barely even critical of the other party's donor base. If Jews don't want to be targeted by race, they could donate personally instead of through AIPAC. Specifically Jewish lobbying, is fair game.

Also "Benjamins" is slang for money, not because of the ancient Jewish patriarch, but because of Benjamin Franklins face being on some note.

AND she apologized and deleted the tweet. Some Jews seem to make a living being offended at stuff that is barely about them at all.


That can be said about nearly any group in this day of defining almost anything as a microagression.
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Postby Elwher » Tue May 04, 2021 10:25 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Phenix Springs wrote:I don’t really know if she is an anti-Semite, but she certainly has some pretty awful opinions.

She bashes police for almost anything and I’m pretty sure that she appeared in an image with her daughter, and the daughter had on a necklace that read “ACAB” or some other ridiculous slogan.


Oh I don’t know. Watching the cops beat up a 80 pound 70 year old woman with dementia. Denying her medical care and later laughing about the person?……They kind of earned the scorn.


If that particular group defines all police, then I suppose you have no problem with those who define all young Black men by the actions of the ones who rob and attack 70-year-old women, right?
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Tue May 04, 2021 10:27 am

Elwher wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Oh I don’t know. Watching the cops beat up a 80 pound 70 year old woman with dementia. Denying her medical care and later laughing about the person?……They kind of earned the scorn.


If that particular group defines all police, then I suppose you have no problem with those who define all young Black men by the actions of the ones who rob and attack 70-year-old women, right?

You do understand the difference between criticising institutions and falling back to some form of racist pseudo-science, right?

Or are you just waiting for criticism of any profession to come out and say you hate a certain ethnicity?
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Postby Helidan » Tue May 04, 2021 10:45 am

1. The Right tends to resort to violence because, for the last hundred years or so, that has worked to keep their political opponents down. Now, its backfiring. The support they had from Far-Right senators is going down since said senators are dying out, and being replaced with either more idiotic or not batshit insane senators. The Right also uses violence because, as several other people have stated, they are losing their power, and they are scared. So, while these attacks are horrible, we should be glad that the media is universally condemning them, as it shows that the Far-Right's backwards ideals are no longer welcome in the Free World.
2. Honestly, and this has a 50/50 chance of backfiring, the only way I can see of reducing Far-Right extremism is to respond with ultimate force. A Klan rally causing an uptick in racial violence? Send the National Guard to intimidate and disperse them. Militias causing trouble? Kill the ringleaders and arrest their followers. Do what the Rightwingers have been doing to the Left for generations. Oppress them. It may be undemocratic, unconstitutional, and possibly uncivilized, but that is the only way to stop Far-Right violence. To let them know that it is dangerous to believe in the Far-Right would be the only possible way to stop them.
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Postby Lady Victory » Tue May 04, 2021 11:09 am

Helidan wrote:1. The Right tends to resort to violence because, for the last hundred years or so, that has worked to keep their political opponents down. Now, its backfiring. The support they had from Far-Right senators is going down since said senators are dying out, and being replaced with either more idiotic or not batshit insane senators. The Right also uses violence because, as several other people have stated, they are losing their power, and they are scared. So, while these attacks are horrible, we should be glad that the media is universally condemning them, as it shows that the Far-Right's backwards ideals are no longer welcome in the Free World.
2. Honestly, and this has a 50/50 chance of backfiring, the only way I can see of reducing Far-Right extremism is to respond with ultimate force. A Klan rally causing an uptick in racial violence? Send the National Guard to intimidate and disperse them. Militias causing trouble? Kill the ringleaders and arrest their followers. Do what the Rightwingers have been doing to the Left for generations. Oppress them. It may be undemocratic, unconstitutional, and possibly uncivilized, but that is the only way to stop Far-Right violence. To let them know that it is dangerous to believe in the Far-Right would be the only possible way to stop them.


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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue May 04, 2021 11:43 am

Lady Victory wrote:
Helidan wrote:1. The Right tends to resort to violence because, for the last hundred years or so, that has worked to keep their political opponents down. Now, its backfiring. The support they had from Far-Right senators is going down since said senators are dying out, and being replaced with either more idiotic or not batshit insane senators. The Right also uses violence because, as several other people have stated, they are losing their power, and they are scared. So, while these attacks are horrible, we should be glad that the media is universally condemning them, as it shows that the Far-Right's backwards ideals are no longer welcome in the Free World.
2. Honestly, and this has a 50/50 chance of backfiring, the only way I can see of reducing Far-Right extremism is to respond with ultimate force. A Klan rally causing an uptick in racial violence? Send the National Guard to intimidate and disperse them. Militias causing trouble? Kill the ringleaders and arrest their followers. Do what the Rightwingers have been doing to the Left for generations. Oppress them. It may be undemocratic, unconstitutional, and possibly uncivilized, but that is the only way to stop Far-Right violence. To let them know that it is dangerous to believe in the Far-Right would be the only possible way to stop them.


The threat of death and violence has never deterred anyone from anything.

Yes, on the right wing violence and on the leftist violence.
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Tue May 04, 2021 11:52 am

Lady Victory wrote:
Helidan wrote:1. The Right tends to resort to violence because, for the last hundred years or so, that has worked to keep their political opponents down. Now, its backfiring. The support they had from Far-Right senators is going down since said senators are dying out, and being replaced with either more idiotic or not batshit insane senators. The Right also uses violence because, as several other people have stated, they are losing their power, and they are scared. So, while these attacks are horrible, we should be glad that the media is universally condemning them, as it shows that the Far-Right's backwards ideals are no longer welcome in the Free World.
2. Honestly, and this has a 50/50 chance of backfiring, the only way I can see of reducing Far-Right extremism is to respond with ultimate force. A Klan rally causing an uptick in racial violence? Send the National Guard to intimidate and disperse them. Militias causing trouble? Kill the ringleaders and arrest their followers. Do what the Rightwingers have been doing to the Left for generations. Oppress them. It may be undemocratic, unconstitutional, and possibly uncivilized, but that is the only way to stop Far-Right violence. To let them know that it is dangerous to believe in the Far-Right would be the only possible way to stop them.


The threat of death and violence has never deterred anyone from anything.

This is just blatantly wrong. Some people cannot be dissuaded by the threat of violence, but if no-one was ever deterred by violence, there would be no use for the criminal justice system, or laws in general.
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Postby East Statesboro » Tue May 04, 2021 11:59 am

Lady Victory wrote:
Helidan wrote:1. The Right tends to resort to violence because, for the last hundred years or so, that has worked to keep their political opponents down. Now, its backfiring. The support they had from Far-Right senators is going down since said senators are dying out, and being replaced with either more idiotic or not batshit insane senators. The Right also uses violence because, as several other people have stated, they are losing their power, and they are scared. So, while these attacks are horrible, we should be glad that the media is universally condemning them, as it shows that the Far-Right's backwards ideals are no longer welcome in the Free World.
2. Honestly, and this has a 50/50 chance of backfiring, the only way I can see of reducing Far-Right extremism is to respond with ultimate force. A Klan rally causing an uptick in racial violence? Send the National Guard to intimidate and disperse them. Militias causing trouble? Kill the ringleaders and arrest their followers. Do what the Rightwingers have been doing to the Left for generations. Oppress them. It may be undemocratic, unconstitutional, and possibly uncivilized, but that is the only way to stop Far-Right violence. To let them know that it is dangerous to believe in the Far-Right would be the only possible way to stop them.


The threat of death and violence has never deterred anyone from anything.

no.

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Postby Lady Victory » Tue May 04, 2021 1:08 pm

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Lady Victory wrote:
The threat of death and violence has never deterred anyone from anything.

This is just blatantly wrong. Some people cannot be dissuaded by the threat of violence, but if no-one was ever deterred by violence, there would be no use for the criminal justice system, or laws in general.


I have to wonder what your definition of "violence" is because this is just a very bizarre take otherwise.

I don't recall defense attorneys beating witnesses to near death on the stand, at least not in this country.
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Postby Nakena » Tue May 04, 2021 1:42 pm

Lady Victory wrote:The threat of death and violence has never deterred anyone from anything.


Oh sweet summerchild.

Do you really believe that?

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Postby Major-Tom » Tue May 04, 2021 1:45 pm

Lady Victory wrote:
Helidan wrote:1. The Right tends to resort to violence because, for the last hundred years or so, that has worked to keep their political opponents down. Now, its backfiring. The support they had from Far-Right senators is going down since said senators are dying out, and being replaced with either more idiotic or not batshit insane senators. The Right also uses violence because, as several other people have stated, they are losing their power, and they are scared. So, while these attacks are horrible, we should be glad that the media is universally condemning them, as it shows that the Far-Right's backwards ideals are no longer welcome in the Free World.
2. Honestly, and this has a 50/50 chance of backfiring, the only way I can see of reducing Far-Right extremism is to respond with ultimate force. A Klan rally causing an uptick in racial violence? Send the National Guard to intimidate and disperse them. Militias causing trouble? Kill the ringleaders and arrest their followers. Do what the Rightwingers have been doing to the Left for generations. Oppress them. It may be undemocratic, unconstitutional, and possibly uncivilized, but that is the only way to stop Far-Right violence. To let them know that it is dangerous to believe in the Far-Right would be the only possible way to stop them.


The threat of death and violence has never deterred anyone from anything.


What.

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Postby Page » Tue May 04, 2021 1:47 pm

Lady Victory wrote:
Helidan wrote:1. The Right tends to resort to violence because, for the last hundred years or so, that has worked to keep their political opponents down. Now, its backfiring. The support they had from Far-Right senators is going down since said senators are dying out, and being replaced with either more idiotic or not batshit insane senators. The Right also uses violence because, as several other people have stated, they are losing their power, and they are scared. So, while these attacks are horrible, we should be glad that the media is universally condemning them, as it shows that the Far-Right's backwards ideals are no longer welcome in the Free World.
2. Honestly, and this has a 50/50 chance of backfiring, the only way I can see of reducing Far-Right extremism is to respond with ultimate force. A Klan rally causing an uptick in racial violence? Send the National Guard to intimidate and disperse them. Militias causing trouble? Kill the ringleaders and arrest their followers. Do what the Rightwingers have been doing to the Left for generations. Oppress them. It may be undemocratic, unconstitutional, and possibly uncivilized, but that is the only way to stop Far-Right violence. To let them know that it is dangerous to believe in the Far-Right would be the only possible way to stop them.


The threat of death and violence has never deterred anyone from anything.


The threat of death and violence is the ultimate deterrent. If every cop in the country said "aight, imma head out" at the same time, Bezos' wealth would be expropriated within five minutes.
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