Rise of Domestic US terrorism fueled mostly by far right

[Vassenor]

Her "policies" eh? Let's judge MTG by dumb shit she says, but judge AOC by her policies. That's fair ...

Experienced politicians know not to say dumb shit. They know that dumb shit will barely ever get through to their base, but will be played over and over, edited down to a nub of dumb shit, for the entertainment and motivation of their political enemies.

If a politician wants to avoid having their intelligence under-estimated, not saying dumb shit should be principle number one, of saying anything at all.

On the other hand, becoming a dumb person was the key to Reagan's success, so I dunno.

AOC generally doesn’t say dumb things, however. Again, there is a difference between saying the fascist shit Taylor Greene says and any calculation errors AOC might have made.

It blows my mind how people think the whole Jewish Space Laser spiel is somehow equivalent to tripping over numbers.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

It blows my mind how people think the whole Jewish Space Laser spiel is somehow equivalent to tripping over numbers.

And again, you reply to someone who replied to me. I'm just "people" to you?

Foe'd.

Your thoughts are not as original as you suspect.

[Lady Victory]

It blows my mind how people think the whole Jewish Space Laser spiel is somehow equivalent to tripping over numbers.

And again, you reply to someone who replied to me. I'm just "people" to you?

Foe'd.

You're comparing a racist conspiracy theorist and seditionist to someone who would be considered a normal politician in any other country. Maybe she's not responding to you because you have nothing to say worth responding to?

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If you're not trying to claim they're equally bad why do you keep equating them in general?

I have to agree with you. I disagree with AOC and MTG, but MTG is batshit crazy. I think people underestimate AOC’s intelligence, even though her polices are pie in the sky.

They're not though. AOC's a pretty vanilla social democrat, all things considered.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

I have to agree with you. I disagree with AOC and MTG, but MTG is batshit crazy. I think people underestimate AOC’s intelligence, even though her polices are pie in the sky.

They're not though. AOC's a pretty vanilla social democrat, all things considered.

NWR is a die hard centrist Page. Anything that isn't the modern day death machine is too out there for him to feel comfortable with, which is sad because this society desperately needs change. Of course he thinks AOC is an "extremist" (a word used at different times and places for things considered totally normal in other times). He's used to living in a society where you have to go into your job and get paid like 9 an hour, come home and have an argument with your wife about how you're gonna keep the roof overhead this month. He's used to living in a country that regularly commits industrialized murder in some part of the world for "freedom"^TM (drugs and oil). To someone who places themself right in the center in current times, people like Bernie Sanders are literally Castro.

[Kubra]

If you're not trying to claim they're equally bad why do you keep equating them in general?

I didn't do that. I admit it was unclear that I meant "time will tell" which of AOC or MTG are doing more harm to their own side. But it should at least be clear that I wasn't making a moral comparison.

If one member on team D implies they want to obsolete capitalism, and that is not renounced by other members, that does a lot more harm to the team than a member on team R saying outright they believe assassinations happen due to Jewish space lasers. One of those is relevant to the party platform (economic policy is a huge fucking deal) and the other just makes the individual politician look silly.

It's nothing but partisan games to say one of them is "worse" than the other. You should stop doing that.

I think dissent inside one party in the Congress should be kept as quiet as possible. I don't appreciate grandstanding to try to advance an agenda by shaming members of the same party, because it WILL cost votes at the next election. What MTG does can't really be compared, as she seems to be motivated by personal notoriety more than any agenda.

>"I'm a dissident leftist"
>"I think dissent inside one party in the Congress should be kept as quiet as possible."
Well what do we do with you boyo

[Boomhaueristan]

What does AOC have to do with Domestic terrorism in the United States.

People have gone off track harder then Dale Earnhardt.

[Diarcesia]

https://www.npr.org/2021/05/01/99271385 ... es-charges

Does this count?

What does AOC have to do with Domestic terrorism in the United States.

People have gone off track harder then Dale Earnhardt.

You know, people say she sponsors the BLM riots and the like, which is domestic terrorism depending on who you ask.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Her "policies" eh? Let's judge MTG by dumb shit she says, but judge AOC by her policies. That's fair ...

Experienced politicians know not to say dumb shit. They know that dumb shit will barely ever get through to their base, but will be played over and over, edited down to a nub of dumb shit, for the entertainment and motivation of their political enemies.

If a politician wants to avoid having their intelligence under-estimated, not saying dumb shit should be principle number one, of saying anything at all.

On the other hand, becoming a dumb person was the key to Reagan's success, so I dunno.

AOC generally doesn’t say dumb things, however. Again, there is a difference between saying the fascist shit Taylor Greene says and any calculation errors AOC might have made.

AOC says a lot of really dumb things.

[Neu California]

AOC generally doesn’t say dumb things, however. Again, there is a difference between saying the fascist shit Taylor Greene says and any calculation errors AOC might have made.

AOC says a lot of really dumb things.

Such as?

[Kubra]

>"I'm a dissident leftist"
>"I think dissent inside one party in the Congress should be kept as quiet as possible."
Well what do we do with you boyo

I am not a fucking Democrat, as not all Leftists are. Even if I was a Democrat, I am not in the Congress.

Any elected Democrat, or even a commentator prominent enough that their comments get reported by others, should bear in mind that controversial statements might challenge other elected Democrats. It's not that they should never speak up: but they should go to the other member they have an issue with, not criticize them through the media.

Left or Right does not determine any party allegiance. Being elected on their ticket SHOULD determine party allegiance, and anyone who can't manage it when their party holds power should fuck off and run Independent.

For a non-democrat, you're sure concerned about the party unity of the democrats!
In reality, "entryism" is a fairly typical thing for large parties, oh, across the world in which political power tends to rest on 2-3 parties. Across the spectrum there, really. On the left, hoo boy, you'd be surprised how much entryism you can fit into a gaggle of parties sized between 1,000 and 1 ornery old git.

[Washington Resistance Army]

AOC says a lot of really dumb things.

Such as?

First thing that immediately comes to mind is her saying the biggest problem between Israel and Palestine is that Palestinians don't have enough access to housing.

Which is, uh, not really the most pressing issue in the region.

[Odreria]

AOC says a lot of really dumb things.

Such as?

"The world is going to end in 12 years"
"England is a great example of socialism"

[North Washington Republic]

They're not though. AOC's a pretty vanilla social democrat, all things considered.

NWR is a die hard centrist Page. Anything that isn't the modern day death machine is too out there for him to feel comfortable with, which is sad because this society desperately needs change. Of course he thinks AOC is an "extremist" (a word used at different times and places for things considered totally normal in other times). He's used to living in a society where you have to go into your job and get paid like 9 an hour, come home and have an argument with your wife about how you're gonna keep the roof overhead this month. He's used to living in a country that regularly commits industrialized murder in some part of the world for "freedom"^TM (drugs and oil). To someone who places themself right in the center in current times, people like Bernie Sanders are literally Castro.

LOL, I don’t consider AOC to be an extremist, I consider her to be a moderate socialist. Now, my Congresswoman, Ilhan Omar is an extremist.

[Odreria]

NWR is a die hard centrist Page. Anything that isn't the modern day death machine is too out there for him to feel comfortable with, which is sad because this society desperately needs change. Of course he thinks AOC is an "extremist" (a word used at different times and places for things considered totally normal in other times). He's used to living in a society where you have to go into your job and get paid like 9 an hour, come home and have an argument with your wife about how you're gonna keep the roof overhead this month. He's used to living in a country that regularly commits industrialized murder in some part of the world for "freedom"^TM (drugs and oil). To someone who places themself right in the center in current times, people like Bernie Sanders are literally Castro.

LOL, I don’t consider AOC to be an extremist, I consider her to be a moderate socialist. Now, my Congresswoman, Ilhan Omar is an extremist.

Is “extremist” code for “not a zionist”

[North Washington Republic]

So, to get back on topic of the thread.

Justice Department has charged at least 400 people in Capitol riot so far

According to the article, the FBI is still looking for hundreds of MAGA terrorists that attacked the Capitol.

[North Washington Republic]

LOL, I don’t consider AOC to be an extremist, I consider her to be a moderate socialist. Now, my Congresswoman, Ilhan Omar is an extremist.

Is “extremist” code for “not a zionist”

I’m aware that there is a difference between being not being a Zionist and being anti-Semitic. Omar is the latter.

But this isn’t the topic of the thread..

[Nilokeras]

LOL, I don’t consider AOC to be an extremist, I consider her to be a moderate socialist. Now, my Congresswoman, Ilhan Omar is an extremist.

Is “extremist” code for “not a zionist”

now now, lets be fair

it could also be code for 'objects to schoolbuses full of Yemeni children being annihilated by hellfire missiles'

[Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia]

Such as?

"The world is going to end in 12 years"
"England is a great example of socialism"

The first quote is AOC literally paraphrasing an IPCC report, which becomes clear once you include the full quote:
"And they (The IPCC) are like: "The world is going to end in 12 years if we don't find a way to eliminate excess carbon dioxide emissions."
As for the second quote about England, it's AOC referring to the Keynesian welfare state implemented by Clement Attlee in the 1940s, leading to an unprecedented era of prosperity and national development for the United Kingdom of Great Britain, up until the 1973 Oil Crisis and Margaret Thatcher dismantling much of the Labour Party's accomplishments in the neoliberal 1980s, of course.

[Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia]

Is “extremist” code for “not a zionist”

I’m aware that there is a difference between being not being a Zionist and being anti-Semitic. Omar is the latter.

But this isn’t the topic of the thread..

Has Ilhan Omar ever called for the extermination of Jews? No? Then she isn't antisemitic, pure and simple, and as a sidenote, your hyphenation and capitalization of the word antisemitism is ironically supporting the myth that there is an ideology of "Semitism" that antisemitism "opposes", when in fact, it's a fancy German word for Jew hatred.

[Kubra]

For a non-democrat, you're sure concerned about the party unity of the democrats!
In reality, "entryism" is a fairly typical thing for large parties, oh, across the world in which political power tends to rest on 2-3 parties. Across the spectrum there, really. On the left, hoo boy, you'd be surprised how much entryism you can fit into a gaggle of parties sized between 1,000 and 1 ornery old git.

That's interesting. Not sure what it has to do with AOC throwing out bait for Republicans and the populist right.

I guess it doesn't matter too much, as long as other elected Democrats grit their teeth and refuse to give an opinion. It takes two sides to make division.

about as much to do as that various Trotskyist that make up the periphery of the labour party, or the more "religious" blocs of most mainstream conservative parties, as well as the independent parties that take a hardline "vote democrat/Republican" line. It's pretty normal in 2 party and 2 party plus systems. And yes, it usually involves taking lines sometimes antagonistic to party elements. Ain't no democratic centralism here, nor has there ever been, dig?

[Jutlop]

I have 2 things
how does any of this concern ilhan omar
rioters are most likely not aligned to any political ideology, they most likely infliltrated the protests

[Washington Resistance Army]

I’m aware that there is a difference between being not being a Zionist and being anti-Semitic. Omar is the latter.

But this isn’t the topic of the thread..

Has Ilhan Omar ever called for the extermination of Jews? No? Then she isn't antisemitic, pure and simple, and as a sidenote, your hyphenation and capitalization of the word antisemitism is ironically supporting the myth that there is an ideology of "Semitism" that antisemitism "opposes", when in fact, it's a fancy German word for Jew hatred.

You do know Semitic is actually a word that should be capitalized. Right? While it's not really commonly used outside of linguistics nowadays it does refer to a specific people group in this context.

[Kowani]

rioters are most likely not aligned to any political ideology, they most likely infliltrated the protests

...no
this is nonsense
the riot was hyped up (prior to happening) in pro-trump spaces, the rioters asked trump for pardons, the rioters went on social media and complained that antifa was getting credit for it, they keep saying in courtthat they were there "at the behest of the president"
this is an extremely fucking dumb point

[Jutlop]

rioters are most likely not aligned to any political ideology, they most likely infliltrated the protests

...no
this is nonsense
the riot was hyped up (prior to happening) pro-trump spaces, the rioters asked trump for pardons, the rioters went on social media and complained that antifa was getting credit for it, they keep saying in the court filings that they were there "at the behest of the president"
this is an extremely fucking dumb point

I wasn't talking about the capital riot