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Postby Dakini » Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:55 pm

Lucyferia wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:it's almost as though left-leaning individuals tend to take it more seriously when officers of the state kill people (especially minorities) unjustifiably

So a police officer somewhere murders a person of color. That means all cops deserve to die?

What a lovely strawman you've constructed there.

This is why deadly use of force happens.

Because of your asinine strawman?

Police officers work a job where any day they could be killed.

It's not even in the top 10 most deadly jobs in the USA.

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Postby Vassenor » Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:56 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
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So stealing government secrets is bad, there we agree. do you apply that logic to the Snowden affair?


Apples and oranges mate. Snowden uploaded files. Terrorists on Jan 6th stole a whole laptop.


And then tried to sell it to the Russians.
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Postby Austreylia » Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:56 pm

Elwher wrote:Multiple protests over the summer, mostly peaceful but a minority burned and looted; just a few folk getting carried away because their voices were not being heard.

A single protest in January, mostly peaceful but a minority looted; a domestic terrorist plot to destroy democracy.

Got it.

I loved that they spent the entire year condemning the American political system as racist and evil.

And then immediately became advocates of the same system, and of law and order as soon as Trump supporters stormed the capitol.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:56 pm

Austreylia wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:So useing a fact checking site to see if another persons
objective opinion is actuly based in fact?

Fact-checking sites are inconsequential, biased crap.

Diarcesia wrote:Austreylia be like: "Trust me, I know the real truth."

Exactly.



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Postby Elwher » Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:56 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
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So stealing government secrets is bad, there we agree. do you apply that logic to the Snowden affair?


Apples and oranges mate. Snowden uploaded files. Terrorists on Jan 6th stole a whole laptop.


Now I get it. Digital stealing - good; physical stealing - bad. Thanks for the clarification.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:57 pm

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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Apples and oranges mate. Snowden uploaded files. Terrorists on Jan 6th stole a whole laptop.


Now I get it. Digital stealing - good; physical stealing - bad. Thanks for the clarification.


Copying a file is not stealing.

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Postby New Vedan » Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:58 pm

Austreylia wrote:
Elwher wrote:Multiple protests over the summer, mostly peaceful but a minority burned and looted; just a few folk getting carried away because their voices were not being heard.

A single protest in January, mostly peaceful but a minority looted; a domestic terrorist plot to destroy democracy.

Got it.

I loved that they spent the entire year condemning the American political system as racist and evil.

And then immediately became advocates of the same system, and of law and order as soon as Trump supporters stormed the capitol.


Preach it! I vf am so damn tired of the hypocrisy the Democrats have been spouting since the election. It's like they've done a complete 180 from thinking the government is straight up evil to thinking its gods gift to the world.

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Postby Austreylia » Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:58 pm

Elwher wrote:Now I get it. Digital stealing - good; physical stealing - bad. Thanks for the clarification.

Stealing from a bunch of scummy politicians who would sell their own kids to make a quick buck? - BAD >:(

Stealing shoes from shops and firebombing car dealerships? - It is ok. They have insurance :)
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Postby Necroghastia » Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:58 pm

Austreylia wrote:
Elwher wrote:Multiple protests over the summer, mostly peaceful but a minority burned and looted; just a few folk getting carried away because their voices were not being heard.

A single protest in January, mostly peaceful but a minority looted; a domestic terrorist plot to destroy democracy.

Got it.

I loved that they spent the entire year condemning the American political system as racist and evil.

And then immediately became advocates of the same system, and of law and order as soon as Trump supporters stormed the capitol.

us political system not so good, domestic terrorists in support of a imbecilic bigoted manchild storming the capitol worse
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Postby Germanyt » Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:59 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Elwher wrote:
Now I get it. Digital stealing - good; physical stealing - bad. Thanks for the clarification.


Copying a file is not stealing.

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Postby Elwher » Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:59 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Elwher wrote:
Now I get it. Digital stealing - good; physical stealing - bad. Thanks for the clarification.


Copying a file is not stealing.


Funny, the RIIA would tend to disagree with that, as does every court in most of the world.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:00 pm

Austreylia wrote:
Elwher wrote:Now I get it. Digital stealing - good; physical stealing - bad. Thanks for the clarification.

Stealing from a bunch of scummy politicians who would sell their own kids to make a quick buck? - BAD >:(

Stealing shoes from shops and firebombing car dealerships? - It is ok. They have insurance :)


Cool argument I never made.

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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Copying a file is not stealing.

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Postby Austreylia » Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:01 pm

New Vedan wrote:Preach it! I vf am so damn tired of the hypocrisy the Democrats have been spouting since the election. It's like they've done a complete 180 from thinking the government is straight up evil to thinking its gods gift to the world.

You should've seen reddit. Every time somebody would say "ay yuh maybe police officers ain't so bad", they would be downvoted and portrayed as the anti-Christ.

But that Capitol Police officer who lead the Trump supporters away from the chamber had like 100k upvotes and thousands of wholesome Keanu chungus awards.
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Postby Dakini » Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:02 pm

Austreylia wrote:
Elwher wrote:Now I get it. Digital stealing - good; physical stealing - bad. Thanks for the clarification.

Stealing from a bunch of scummy politicians who would sell their own kids to make a quick buck? - BAD >:(

Stealing shoes from shops and firebombing car dealerships? - It is ok. They have insurance :)

Loudly searching for the Vice President of the USA and shouting about how you want to hang him is good in your opinion? Because that was also happening.

I don't like Mike Pence in the least, but there were people outright looking for him to try to murder him. They were looking for other government officials announcing their intent to harm them too.

But hey, let's pretend the worst the people who attacked the seat of the US government did was just stealing Nancy Pelosi's laptop and smearing literal shit on the walls.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:02 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Elwher wrote:
So stealing government secrets is bad, there we agree. do you apply that logic to the Snowden affair?


Apples and oranges mate. Snowden uploaded files. Terrorists on Jan 6th stole a whole laptop.


This is wildly hypocritical. Snowden exposed far more government secrets than anyone on Jan 6th did, Pelosi's team even confirmed the laptop only really had Congressional work stuff on it iirc. It's not like it was a bunch of top secret codeword only stuff.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:03 pm

Elwher wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Copying a file is not stealing.


Funny, the RIIA would tend to disagree with that, as does every court in most of the world.


RIIA sucks my asshole.
Austreylia wrote:
New Vedan wrote:Preach it! I vf am so damn tired of the hypocrisy the Democrats have been spouting since the election. It's like they've done a complete 180 from thinking the government is straight up evil to thinking its gods gift to the world.

You should've seen reddit. Every time somebody would say "ay yuh maybe police officers ain't so bad", they would be downvoted and portrayed as the anti-christ.

But that Capitol Police officer who lead the Trump supporters away from the chamber had like 100k upvotes and thousands of wholesome Keanu chungus awards.


You seem to like circle jerking just like reddit tho

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Postby Austreylia » Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:03 pm

Dakini wrote:Loudly searching for the Vice President of the USA and shouting about how you want to hang him is good in your opinion? Because that was also happening.

I don't like Mike Pence in the least, but there were people outright looking for him to try to murder him. They were looking for other government officials announcing their intent to harm them too.

But hey, let's pretend the worst the people who attacked the seat of the US government did was just stealing Nancy Pelosi's laptop and smearing literal shit on the walls.

And yet the same people who were shrieking bloody murder about the storming of the capitol were completely silent on - or were actively encouraging - the BLM riots.
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Postby Germanyt » Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:04 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Austreylia wrote:Stealing from a bunch of scummy politicians who would sell their own kids to make a quick buck? - BAD >:(

Stealing shoes from shops and firebombing car dealerships? - It is ok. They have insurance :)


Cool argument I never made.

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Postby New Vedan » Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:04 pm

Austreylia wrote:
New Vedan wrote:Preach it! I vf am so damn tired of the hypocrisy the Democrats have been spouting since the election. It's like they've done a complete 180 from thinking the government is straight up evil to thinking its gods gift to the world.

You should've seen reddit. Every time somebody would say "ay yuh maybe police officers ain't so bad", they would be downvoted and portrayed as the anti-Christ.

But that Capitol Police officer who lead the Trump supporters away from the chamber had like 100k upvotes and thousands of wholesome Keanu chungus awards.



Cant say I'm surprised, reddit is a cesspool.

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:05 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Apples and oranges mate. Snowden uploaded files. Terrorists on Jan 6th stole a whole laptop.


This is wildly hypocritical. Snowden exposed far more government secrets than anyone on Jan 6th did, Pelosi's team even confirmed the laptop only really had Congressional work stuff on it iirc. It's not like it was a bunch of top secret codeword only stuff.


This isn't really on topic tho is it?

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Postby Dakini » Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:06 pm

Austreylia wrote:
Dakini wrote:Loudly searching for the Vice President of the USA and shouting about how you want to hang him is good in your opinion? Because that was also happening.

I don't like Mike Pence in the least, but there were people outright looking for him to try to murder him. They were looking for other government officials announcing their intent to harm them too.

But hey, let's pretend the worst the people who attacked the seat of the US government did was just stealing Nancy Pelosi's laptop and smearing literal shit on the walls.

And yet the same people who were shrieking bloody murder about the storming of the capitol were completely silent on - or were actively encouraging - the BLM riots.

Not really. People were usually pointing out how the police shouldn't have attacked protests while they were peaceful if they didn't want them to turn violent because that's how basically all of the riots started. Maybe if the cops ever tried de-escalation techniques instead of attacking children, they wouldn't have to deal with as many angry mobs.


Unlike when the fascists stormed the seat of the US government and the cops let them in because the white supremacists have infiltrated the police so they support their own.
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Postby Austreylia » Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:06 pm

Germanyt wrote:degenerate

Woah!

You're not allowed to say that word! It is a dog whistle, somehow.

New Vedan wrote:Cant say I'm surprised, reddit is a cesspool.

Reddit is just awful, twitter is turbo-reddit 3000, and the majority of NSG is like a smaller amalgamation of the two.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:06 pm

Germanyt wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Cool argument I never made.



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Postby Christian Confederation » Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:07 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Christian Confederation wrote:It's still the Supreme Court's job to handle disputes between the states. Just telling them "well the election is over so it doesn't matter." In the very least they should here the argument between the States. Especially since it's the Supreme Court's Constitutional Duty to handle Disputes between the States. Congress was going to hear the evidence on the 6th right before the Capitol was conveniently Breached


Conveniently? What are you implying? Don't tell me you fell for the "its a false flag attack" bullshit.

Also no, it's not "its over so it doesnt matter" its "these claims are totaly bullshit and everyone knows it"

No I'm saying it's odd the riot at the Capitol started before the President was done speaking at the White House. I'm saying it happened as Both chambers were about to start descussing Arizona's election.

People voting from invalid Address, Dead voters, and unmonitored counting of votes is more than enough to make people question the legitimacy of an election. If everyone else is ruining the game clean but the swing states aren't we have a problem.

Just look at my home state. We just got our voting loopholes fixed and the Democrats and the media slander us as a bunch of racists for requiring a voter ID. Took millions of economic investment from one of the blackest cities in the country and moved it to one of the Whites of cities.
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Postby Whitemore » Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:07 pm

Austreylia wrote:
Dakini wrote:Loudly searching for the Vice President of the USA and shouting about how you want to hang him is good in your opinion? Because that was also happening.

I don't like Mike Pence in the least, but there were people outright looking for him to try to murder him. They were looking for other government officials announcing their intent to harm them too.

But hey, let's pretend the worst the people who attacked the seat of the US government did was just stealing Nancy Pelosi's laptop and smearing literal shit on the walls.

And yet the same people who were shrieking bloody murder about the storming of the capitol were completely silent on - or were actively encouraging - the BLM riots.


No one was encouraging the destruction of private property, you mistake people supporting the BLM peaceful protests and the few idiots who usually ruin stuff for everyone (in this case smashing and burning private property).
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