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Postby CoraSpia » Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:01 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
CoraSpia wrote:Rule of thumb:
If it prevents normal people from living their lives, I don't agree with it. Normal people being people who aren't committing intentional crimes.


Rule of thumb:

People dying from a plague isn't a good thing.

Florida being underwater isn't a good thing.

We agree, they're not good things. I haven't yet come across a proposed situation that would convince me that it is worth the suspension of liberties in order to avert it though.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:01 am

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San Lumen wrote:I don’t have any of those things in mind. I want to strengthen the endangered species act , clean air and water act, set aside more land as wilderness, plant more trees, limit commercial fishing by banning giant trawlers among other things.

I'm unfamiliar with the clean air act because it's several thousand miles away, can you give me a rundown please?
Banning large trawlers will rise fish prices massively, or result in more commercial fish farms which are terrible for local ecosystems.


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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:01 am

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The Reformed American Republic wrote:No, he wanted to kiss Trump's ass.

If the democrats had accepted it it would have been a great win for Cruz. He would have shown how he was loyal to the end (2024 anyone?) and he would have probably prevented the capital riot. It was a very sensible proposal.


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Postby Resilient Acceleration » Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:02 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
CoraSpia wrote:Rule of thumb:
If it prevents normal people from living their lives, I don't agree with it. Normal people being people who aren't committing intentional crimes.


Rule of thumb:

People dying from a plague isn't a good thing.

Florida being underwater isn't a good thing.

Relevant, considering India's recent unfathomble spike in cases amid lax enforcement. A warning tale.

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Postby CoraSpia » Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:04 am

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CoraSpia wrote:If the democrats had accepted it it would have been a great win for Cruz. He would have shown how he was loyal to the end (2024 anyone?) and he would have probably prevented the capital riot. It was a very sensible proposal.

Why should we give into paranoid people drunk on Qanon and other garbage? They're not rational, so if the commission found no evidence, they would just say the deep state covered it up.

Would you rather have had the capital riot or not had it? Sometimes you make concessions to groups that you dislike or have no respect for, because they pose a threat and you don't really have any way of stopping it. I don't support the rioters actions but Cruz proposed something that would have either prevented such a riot entirely or delayed it in order to give the security services an opportunity to work out what they're going to do. What are the downsides to accepting the proposal?
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:05 am

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The Reformed American Republic wrote:Why should we give into paranoid people drunk on Qanon and other garbage? They're not rational, so if the commission found no evidence, they would just say the deep state covered it up.

Would you rather have had the capital riot or not had it?


I'd rather have had the security at the capitol do their job and not let the rioters breach the building.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:05 am

CoraSpia wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Rule of thumb:

People dying from a plague isn't a good thing.

Florida being underwater isn't a good thing.

We agree, they're not good things. I haven't yet come across a proposed situation that would convince me that it is worth the suspension of liberties in order to avert it though.


Aw, putting on a mask is too tough for people to do nowadays?

Back in the greatest generation people went to actual war with world ending threats like nazis. And now putting on a mask while lowering carbon emissions is too much to ask?

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Postby CoraSpia » Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:07 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
CoraSpia wrote:We agree, they're not good things. I haven't yet come across a proposed situation that would convince me that it is worth the suspension of liberties in order to avert it though.


Aw, putting on a mask is too tough for people to do nowadays?

Back in the greatest generation people went to actual war with world ending threats like nazis. And now putting on a mask while lowering carbon emissions is too much to ask?

Even if there was a war on, I still couldn't support the measures that were put in place to assist with it. A love of freedom and a lack of any sort of national loyalty go hand in hand here.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:07 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
CoraSpia wrote:We agree, they're not good things. I haven't yet come across a proposed situation that would convince me that it is worth the suspension of liberties in order to avert it though.


Aw, putting on a mask is too tough for people to do nowadays?

Back in the greatest generation people went to actual war with world ending threats like nazis. And now putting on a mask while lowering carbon emissions is too much to ask?


We live in such a circus of a country, a police officer kneeling on a man's neck till he dies isn't oppression but wearing a mask and not being able to go shopping is. And then people wonder why the rest of the world is "laughing at us" as Trump noticed.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:09 am

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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:They can't.



Mail in is safe.



This isn't up for debate, voter fraud was barely even a thing.



Common ground? We are way past that point. Left wing has tried over and over again, while the right wing has kept on driving into pure insanity.

The amount of Trump flags on anti mask protests and right wingers becoming anti vaxers are just insane.

I still don't understand why America has such a messed up voting system. In the UK we use this revolutionary new voting machine called box. You input your vote into box, using the slot-top method, and then it gets counted by a load of people and then read out. Parties can ask for recounts if it's close. No possibility for hacking, no votes getting lost in the mail, no stupid punchcards.


...you do know partys can ask for recounts of mail in votes right?

And that the votes where safely and easily tabulated in 2020 right? On top of that, there may or may not be a two million killer deadly plague attacking the world right now and being stacked up in one building where germs can jump from one person to another could spread that very same deadly plague?

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Postby Odreria » Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:10 am

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Picairn wrote:You repeat common right-wing propaganda talking points and you expect right wingers to be taken seriously? You do realize that the 2020 election was the most secure in history according to Trump's officials and that mail-in voting has no widespread fraud in states where it is applied, right?

An election is only fair if they win. If they lose, they throw away democracy.

Yes, that is the US state department’s policy in Venezuela and Bolivia.
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Postby Krasny-Volny » Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:14 am

Don’t believe there is a rise in terrorism, period. Whether it’s being done by disaffected militia types or aspiring jihadists. Terrorist incidents were way, way, way more common twenty and even more so thirty to forty years ago than they are now (anybody old enough to remember the golden age of air hijackings? What about all the high profile assassinations and assassination attempts in the ‘70s and ‘80s? What about groups like the Symbionese Liberation Army that actually had the guts to mow down people with automatic weaponry in broad daylight, unlike today’s Antifa and right wing militias?).

I don’t trust the media data “analysis” any more. There are lies, damned lies, and statistics. The Washington Post can take their baseless fearmongering and shove it. There is no rise in domestic terrorism, in fact in hindsight it’s at historically low levels and more often than not the FBI has gotten far more efficient at nabbing the bad guys before they can actually do anything.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:14 am

CoraSpia wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Aw, putting on a mask is too tough for people to do nowadays?

Back in the greatest generation people went to actual war with world ending threats like nazis. And now putting on a mask while lowering carbon emissions is too much to ask?

Even if there was a war on, I still couldn't support the measures that were put in place to assist with it. A love of freedom and a lack of any sort of national loyalty go hand in hand here.


You do know that if the nazis invaded the US, entire states like Louisiana and Florida went under the sea and or, you, your friends, your family dying from COVID that would be a much bigger threat to your freedom then not stoping the Nazis, having both states be above water and, puting on a mask while staying 2 meters away from people.

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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:14 am

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The Reformed American Republic wrote:An election is only fair if they win. If they lose, they throw away democracy.

Yes, that is the US state department’s policy in Venezuela and Bolivia.

Regardless of the motivations of the state department, Maduro is a dictator.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:17 am

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Resilient Acceleration wrote:This sounds like the start of those insane TNO Burgundy-esque esoteric states you find in NS F7.


You'll find no happiness under the Black Sun.



This sounds like a job for a pure wholesome boi to solve

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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Aw, putting on a mask is too tough for people to do nowadays?

Back in the greatest generation people went to actual war with world ending threats like nazis. And now putting on a mask while lowering carbon emissions is too much to ask?


We live in such a circus of a country, a police officer kneeling on a man's neck till he dies isn't oppression but wearing a mask and not being able to go shopping is. And then people wonder why the rest of the world is "laughing at us" as Trump noticed.



All beacuse "SJW BAD XDXDXD WATCH MY YOUTUBE CHANNLE FOR MORE OF T3H LIBS GETING P0WNED" became mainstream.

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Postby Galloism » Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:19 am

I’m having a hard time getting to the actual data of what’s classified how and why.

Been going through the CSIS website and I don’t find any data download of the database or anything used to generate this report.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:21 am

To be honest, left wing terrorism is down due to the collapse of the Soviets.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:22 am

Christian Confederation wrote:
Alien Overlord wrote:Careful now, an idea like that nowadays can get you lynched. Jokes aside though you make a fair point and i actually completely agree with you. I think that American Conservatism has pretty much stayed consistent whereas the left has become more radical, forcing conservatives to radicalize. One of the big pulls for many voters this past election with Biden was his message that he would heal divides in the nation-a promise he has failed spectacularly to live up to by reversing Donald Trumps policies, which were themselves a reaction to left wing pushes. Biden is refusing to deradicalize the nation and is pushing us further towards a metaphorical cliff where reactions like we saw at the capital last year may happen again to populations that feel they have no other options.

Absolutely. Trump had his faults as all Presidents do but it was a relief to see positive change foreign policy and economy wise. In all honesty my faith in the country surviving to 2076 has declined significantly in the past 2 years. During the Trump Administration the left only got more radical and they continue to do so.
Honestly the only hope I do have is a few Congressmen, Project Veritas, and Jordan Peterson.

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Postby Odreria » Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:23 am

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Odreria wrote:Yes, that is the US state department’s policy in Venezuela and Bolivia.

Regardless of the motivations of the state department, Maduro is a dictator.

He was forced to take dictatorial measures by the continued disloyalty and treason of the gangsters and fascists that call themselves the opposition.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:27 am

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The Reformed American Republic wrote:Regardless of the motivations of the state department, Maduro is a dictator.

He was forced to take dictatorial measures by the continued disloyalty and treason of the gangsters and fascists that call themselves the opposition.

Yes, opposition and having different views is treasonous and gangsterous. :roll:
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Postby Nakena » Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:27 am

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New haven america wrote:You know, I floated the idea around before, I can do it gain.

Let the US buy French Guiana, relocate the far right winger over there, and see what happens.

They claim the superior political ideology, well I wanna see it in action. Make Former French Guiana the greatest country in history, I dare you.

This sounds like the start of those insane TNO Burgundy-esque esoteric states you find in NS F7.


More like the Draka Dominion.
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Postby Universil-Unoyz Wintarros » Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:29 am

Domestic terrorism is a result of a power imbalance between the passionate everyday man and those in power. Thanks to globalization, and industrial society.

They can't wage war against this monolithic structure they're against, so they must do what they can to disrupt the system they hate. In a fucked up manner. But they do not care, they want something to happen.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:30 am

CoraSpia wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Wow. Who could ever see it coming. It's almost like years of being on anti vax facebook groups and youtube anti sjw echo chambers grew ever more extremists views that lead to terrorsism.

It's almost like anti sjw's have lead the right wing down the path of madness.




Ah yes, divisive policies like "maybe we should stop assholes from shooting up schools, workplaces and, public spaces", "we shouldn't flood the planet", "the German and Scottish public healthcare systems spend less on healthcare then the US does, maybe we should adopt one of there systems", "stop killing black people for alleged crimes" and, "trans people are valid".
Truly, these ebil policies can drive anyone to murder a cop and drive another cop to suicide.

I agree on the last two, but gun control is an extremely divisive policy, for good reason. It's pretty difficult for a government to take peoples concerns seriously when there's no chance of people fighting back. Environmentalism will destroy a lot of peoples careers, and creating a nationalised health service like we have in the UK would be impossible without major tax rises or finding a lot of savings from some other place.


There needs to be something, anything, to stop the spread of people dying in schools, workplaces and public spaces.

I have nothing against the redneck people who want to shoot beer cans off there fence on there cattle ranch in Texas. I have nothing against the people who buy a gun to protect there property.

But there needs to be a way to weed out normal people like the above and the insane people like Mr Anime, Adam Lanza, and many many more people.

Mostly destroy Saudi oil barons and billionaires who commit tax fraud. So who really cares?


Not like the UK's system, just Scotland's system. Let each state set up there own public healthcare system and have it taxed via the state taxes not fed taxes.
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Postby Odreria » Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:31 am

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Odreria wrote:He was forced to take dictatorial measures by the continued disloyalty and treason of the gangsters and fascists that call themselves the opposition.

Yes, opposition and having different views is treasonous and gangsterous. :roll:

Didn’t you call the capitol riot treason? Because the coup attempts by the erstwhile ruling class in Venezuela are a lot more serious.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:32 am

Ifreann wrote:
Christian Confederation wrote:Absolutely. Trump had his faults as all Presidents do but it was a relief to see positive change foreign policy and economy wise. In all honesty my faith in the country surviving to 2076 has declined significantly in the past 2 years. During the Trump Administration the left only got more radical and they continue to do so.
Honestly the only hope I do have is a few Congressmen, Project Veritas, and Jordan Peterson.

Project Veritas are proven fraudsters multiple times over.


But that doesn't matter beacuse le anti sjw youtuber told them Project Veritas was good.

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