U.S. troops to be withdrawn from Afghanistan by summer

[Roblox Crossroads]

Good. Dont need interferance, focus on your own nation

[The Yellow Emperor]

About the time I suppose.

[Divided Wastelands of America]

I highly doubt that is going to happen, something is going to happen and it will delay the withdraw or they will get deployed to Syria. instead.

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I highly doubt that is going to happen, something is going to happen and it will delay the withdraw or they will get deployed to Syria. instead.

If the Taliban won't stir the shit pot on their own, a secret envoy from Raytheon or Lockheed can simply hand a Taliban guy a wad of 10k dollars as payment to go shoot up American or Afghan government troops. The money is jack shit to them but more than the Taliban guy has ever seen in his life, and the company gets their billion dollar contracts extended.

[Ah General Kenobi]

finally though i suppose it sucks for the afghans who are going to get run over by the taliban in a couple of years

[Ah General Kenobi]

The Afghan government has to have the training wheels off at some point, we can't be there to guarantee our little protectorate forever.

Ok but if we're using this analogy, protectorates in New Imperialism continued for 70-80 years, and usually weren't in active warzones. Obviously Afghanistan should have the training wheels off, but not in a way that will actively roll back whatever little progress Afghans have made in civil rights, which is my problem here.

which would be fine if the us had the balls to actually go imperialism and start mining for lapis lazuli and other resources in afghanistan but it didnt so its a sunken cost.
plus i think its pretty clear americans cant handle war anymore. sucks but true

[Resilient Acceleration]

I'm not sure about what to feel. On one hand, this is already waay overdue and thank God is it finally happening. America also don't really have anymore interest in the region (due to abundant domestic oil supply from fracking and blooming green energy being a thing), and we should see a gradual, almost complete American departure from the Middle East region by the next decade. Leaving them on the hands of the very beneficent, human-rights loving, pro-peace foreign policies of Saudi Arabia, Iran, Turkey, Israel, Russia, and China (as already happens in Syiria, Iraq, and many other places).

Then again, the inherent vulnerabilities that made Afghanistan a collapsed hellhole hasn't really dissappeared. Pakistan's geopolitical interests, which strongly disfavor a strong Afghanistan, is still there, and doesn't seem to be changing anytime soon. It's not too implausible that the country will collapse again into another horrific civil war akin to Iraq's ISIS spree in 2014. The only difference being that it will be fought by regional proxies and millitias, just like the Kurds in Syiria or Houthis in Yemen.

It's terrible, but as long as media attention is minimal (like the 1998-2003 Second Congo War which killed around 5.4 million), such situation won't be surprising. It'll be pretty normal, actually. And since America won't be involved, I guess they can just say "who cares lol".

[Sungoldy-China]

I'm not sure about what to feel. On one hand, this is already waay overdue and thank God is it finally happening. America also don't really have anymore interest in the region (due to abundant domestic oil supply from fracking and blooming green energy being a thing), and we should see a gradual, almost complete American departure from the Middle East region by the next decade. Leaving them on the hands of the very beneficent, human-rights loving, pro-peace foreign policies of Saudi Arabia, Iran, Turkey, Israel, Russia, and China (as already happens in Syiria, Iraq, and many other places).

Then again, the inherent vulnerabilities that made Afghanistan a collapsed hellhole hasn't really dissappeared. Pakistan's geopolitical interests, which strongly disfavor a strong Afghanistan, is still there, and doesn't seem to be changing anytime soon. It's not too implausible that the country will collapse again into another horrific civil war akin to Iraq's ISIS spree in 2014. The only difference being that it will be fought by regional proxies and millitias, just like the Kurds in Syiria or Houthis in Yemen.

It's terrible, but as long as media attention is minimal (like the 1998-2003 Second Congo War which killed around 5.4 million), such situation won't be surprising. It'll be pretty normal, actually. And since America won't be involved, I guess they can just say "who cares lol".

as long as Saudi Arabia and Israel in Middle East, America will still keep control in Middle East.
As for someone dead? Who cares about the death of civilians in a small country ？
Do humans care about how many pigs are sent to the slaughterhouse every day for food?

[Adamede]

I'm not sure about what to feel. On one hand, this is already waay overdue and thank God is it finally happening. America also don't really have anymore interest in the region (due to abundant domestic oil supply from fracking and blooming green energy being a thing), and we should see a gradual, almost complete American departure from the Middle East region by the next decade. Leaving them on the hands of the very beneficent, human-rights loving, pro-peace foreign policies of Saudi Arabia, Iran, Turkey, Israel, Russia, and China (as already happens in Syiria, Iraq, and many other places).

Then again, the inherent vulnerabilities that made Afghanistan a collapsed hellhole hasn't really dissappeared. Pakistan's geopolitical interests, which strongly disfavor a strong Afghanistan, is still there, and doesn't seem to be changing anytime soon. It's not too implausible that the country will collapse again into another horrific civil war akin to Iraq's ISIS spree in 2014. The only difference being that it will be fought by regional proxies and millitias, just like the Kurds in Syiria or Houthis in Yemen.

It's terrible, but as long as media attention is minimal (like the 1998-2003 Second Congo War which killed around 5.4 million), such situation won't be surprising. It'll be pretty normal, actually. And since America won't be involved, I guess they can just say "who cares lol".

Afghanistan isn’t anywhere close to where most the ME oil is.

[British Starsian Influence]

I have to say I support US pullout from Afghanistan. With China gaining ever more influence, and Russia looking increasingly likely to make some more hostile moves against Ukraine, we'll need the troops to demand key outposts like Taiwan, Ukraine, and Finland. If there's one thing history has taught us, it's that you can't front a two front war, and with troops in the Middle East fighting the Taliban, the North Sea countering the Russians, and in South Korea to counter North Korean and Chinese aggression, we're essentially fighting a war on three.