The Alma Mater wrote:The Blaatschapen wrote:I like prince Philip. He shows that immigrants from a war torn continent can become beloved by the local populace.
You like the idea of an 18 year old boy romancing his 13 year old "niece"
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The number of weird, slightly nasty misrepresentations you've been advancing in this thread.... Nor is this the first death thread that you've done this sort of thing in. It's almost as if you enjoy hanging around these threads just so you can make as many posts as possible that are ever so slightly unpleasant, sneeringly twisting situations into the most negative interpretation possible, and deploying snide winking smilies in the process, while falling just that little bit short of breaking the site rules.
You must be
such fun at parties.
Anyway, in this particular case:
1) While Prince Philip and the future Queen were first formally introduced when she was 13, Philip had no romantic interest in her at the time, and didn't set out to pursue her. The Queen says that
she fell in love with
him, and she started writing him letters; but he didn't set out to 'romance' her - or even encourage her - for some years afterwards, not least because her parents were unsure about Philip's suitability. It seems that the relationship didn't really advance until 1943, at which point Princess Elizabeth was 17. They didn't get engaged until she was 21, which was by no means unusual in the 1940s (or even into the 60s).
2) They're third cousins (or at best second cousins once removed). The relationship was never constructed or considered as an uncle/niece one.
It would be fair to note that Philip's own uncle Lord Mountbatten played a key role in encouraging - arguably deliberately manipulating - the relationship between Philip and the future Queen, for example arranging for his nephew to chaperone the princess at that 1939 first formal meeting, and then likely intervening to get Philip a British naval posting when his sister Princess Alice (Philip's mother) told him some months later that she'd convinced her son to join her in resettling in Greece (hardly the actions of a young man deliberately 'romancing' his teenaged distant cousin). That's all fair.
But then you're never particularly interested in being fair; only snide.
And...
The Alma Mater wrote:Otoh, his family was mostly nazis (or married to nazis) and he himself got along splendidly with Hitler, saluting him numerous times in the wellknown manner.
And here you go again; and at this point you're just confused. Prince Philip's sisters all married Germans, including at least one Nazi Party and SS leader - which is why none of them were invited to his wedding. To the best of my knowledge, however, the teenaged Philip himself never met Hitler, nor saluted Hitler. The 16 year old Philip did march behind his sister's coffin when she was buried in Darmstadt in 1937, and walked alongside soldiers of the National Socialist regime during the funeral; but that was a family event, and he's never been shown - or accused of - making the Hitler salute at the time. His wife's uncle Edward VIII/the Duke of Windsor was, of course, a different matter.
There's plenty to criticise Philip for, but if we must criticise him, perhaps we should focus on criticising him for things he actually did.
Edit:The Alma Mater wrote:Actually there are plenty of suspicions that he DID pass on state secrets to the nazis.
But since there is very little proof we can - ironically - also attribute those suspicions to good old British racism against "the foreigner"
That's at least the second time you've posted this in the thread.
Either produce some actual evidence for these 'suspicions', or perhaps drop your Fox News-like 'some say' tactics.