Prince Philip dies at age 99

[Celritannia]

That's just it, he wasn't a human being just like us. He had a sense of duty and public service the like of which we have never seen and will probably never see again. Given his actual position I'd say the way he has carried himself is actually a larger personal burden than the burden carried by the Queen.

The way he has lived his life has lessons that pretty much anybody can learn from in the public sphere and espechally with modern trends that example will be a loss greater than most.

How much public service did he do? Much less than a normal UK citizen, that's for sure. Also, what do you mean by duty?

Fekin' lel m8.

[Islamic Holy Sites]

Fought the Nazis: Churchill wasn't exactly a great person either, and many others did just that.

Married a princess: So?

Racked up 22,000 appearances: Please see how much royals work per year then come back.

Supports QE2: Do I care? Monarchy should be abolished.

DofE: We don't mourn like this when makers of other NGO's die, but that is a good thing, don't get me wrong.

Charities: ^^^

A symbol of Britain: Not much to be proud of currently, if I'm honest.

Diplomatic duties: What ones exactly? Also Foreign Ministry takes care of that. When a foreign minister ies we don't mourn like this.

Moral boosting: Another ministry does that, see ^^^

Religion thing: Explain?

We did mourn Churchill, we did mourn Captain Sir Tom Moore, we do mourn Foreign Ministers most of the time.

Not at this degree, and I actually detest Churchill.

[Fartsniffage]

Fought the Nazis. Married a Princess. Managed to rack up over 22,000 solo public appearances as a senior Royal. And an even higher number in support of Queen Elizabeth 2nd. Started and was a life long patron of the Duke of Edinburgh Awards. Patron of numerous charities. 73 years of being a symbol of Britain to the rest of the world. Diplomatic duties, moral boosting duties, the subject of a whole religion.

And a few other things.

Fought the Nazis: Churchill wasn't exactly a great person either, and many others did just that.

Married a princess: So?

Racked up 22,000 appearances: Please see how much royals work per year then come back.

Supports QE2: Do I care? Monarchy should be abolished.

DofE: We don't mourn like this when makers of other NGO's die, but that is a good thing, don't get me wrong.

Charities: ^^^

A symbol of Britain: Not much to be proud of currently, if I'm honest.

Diplomatic duties: What ones exactly? Also Foreign Ministry takes care of that. When a foreign minister ies we don't mourn like this.

Moral boosting: Another ministry does that, see ^^^

Religion thing: Explain?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Philip_Movement

[Alvecia]

That's just it, he wasn't a human being just like us. He had a sense of duty and public service the like of which we have never seen and will probably never see again. Given his actual position I'd say the way he has carried himself is actually a larger personal burden than the burden carried by the Queen.

The way he has lived his life has lessons that pretty much anybody can learn from in the public sphere and espechally with modern trends that example will be a loss greater than most.

How much public service did he do? Much less than a normal UK citizen, that's for sure. Also, what do you mean by duty?

Depending on your definition of public service, the average UK citizen has probably done close to diddly squat

[Islamic Holy Sites]

How much public service did he do? Much less than a normal UK citizen, that's for sure. Also, what do you mean by duty?

Cool, list everything you have done that might be considered public service and we can compare you both.

Adult, of course. And does actually working count?

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

That's just it, he wasn't a human being just like us. He had a sense of duty and public service the like of which we have never seen and will probably never see again. Given his actual position I'd say the way he has carried himself is actually a larger personal burden than the burden carried by the Queen.

The way he has lived his life has lessons that pretty much anybody can learn from in the public sphere and espechally with modern trends that example will be a loss greater than most.

How much public service did he do? Much less than a normal UK citizen, that's for sure. Also, what do you mean by duty?

Nil nisi bonum mate...

[The Nihilistic view]

Cool, list everything you have done that might be considered public service and we can compare you both.

Adult, of course. And does actually working count?

Depends what your job is.

[SD_Film Artists]

We did mourn Churchill, we did mourn Captain Sir Tom Moore, we do mourn Foreign Ministers most of the time.

Not at this degree, and I actually detest Churchill.

Somehow I'm not surprised.

[Forsher]

We do not commemorate every war veteran's death like this. Why should he be?

Because he's the husband of the head of state and is an important cultural figure.

It's more because we (meaning "the public at large") know who he is.

You're free, for example, to make a post about my great grandfather who died decades ago (post relevant war). But why would you? Who'd post in it? Who cares specifically enough that they have something to say? Even I can tell you basically nothing about him. He had a snuff box, though. Should have that somewhere.

Captain Sir Tom Moore got a thread when he died earlier this year. Two people posted in it (including the OP). And he was fairly well known.

Okay, but what about tangentially public figures? People who are known because they died? Ah, I've got personal experience with this.

A classmate of mine's father was murdered several years ago. Did I make a thread about that? No. I mean, that was actually a pretty big story here so there were privacy implications. Also, making such a thread is, honestly, pretty fucked up... I never knew her father, for example: it's so not my place to be doing something like that, even if I never mentioned "oh, you remember how your father was murdered? well, I made a thread about that on this random website".

I really can't see what would change here if her father had been killed in Afghanistan or whatever. It'd still be equally... I'm going to use the word... creepy. Oh, sure, the privacy implications would be lessened but no, just no. And I'm not just saying this because I never could figure out how to broach the subject in person and, indeed, are of the opinion that trying is a Bad Idea.

And then the final case is sharing the deaths of people you actually personally know where you wouldn't need to self-Doxx yourself to say anything remotely personal. For much the same reasons as why I didn't (and don't think trying to) bring the above situation up in person would be a decent thing to do, I personally wouldn't do this. Grief is personal. But maybe someone else feels differently.

(Note: when a forumite dies we probably do know who the forumite was, at least in some respects.)

[Islamic Holy Sites]

Adult, of course. And does actually working count?

Depends what your job is.

How much work per year does the busiest monarch do?

[Whitemore]

This is crazy to me, I just woke up to this news. I was hoping he'd make it to his 100th birthday, that would have been huge for him. Hopefully it was a peaceful death and he was made as comfortable as possible in his final hours. God save the Queen and all that.

[Salus Maior]

Because he's the husband of the head of state and is an important cultural figure.

So what if he's husband of the head of state? He's a human being, just like us.

Sure, so was your prophet.

[Western Fardelshufflestein]

This is crazy to me, I just woke up to this news. I was hoping he'd make it to his 100th birthday, that would have been huge for him. Hopefully it was a peaceful death and he was made as comfortable as possible in his final hours. God save the Queen and all that.

I woke up with the news and felt sad about it. And then wondered how Elizabeth II must feel. She must be so devastated.

[Islamic Holy Sites]

So what if he's husband of the head of state? He's a human being, just like us.

Sure, so was your prophet.

True. So was yours.

[Svenska-Britannia]

This is crazy to me, I just woke up to this news. I was hoping he'd make it to his 100th birthday, that would have been huge for him. Hopefully it was a peaceful death and he was made as comfortable as possible in his final hours. God save the Queen and all that.

I woke up with the news and felt sad about it. And then wondered how Elizabeth II must feel. She must be so devastated.

Her Majesty the Queen might be in Deep Mourning as to the loss of her Husband.

[Forsher]

To be clear, Fry said:



Because it looks you're saying he said "smallest violin" or something of the sort.

Not my intention. Drawing parallels between both points of "People who care so much to tell you how little they care"

Oh, yeah, that was immediately clear once I read what Fry actually said.

[Celritannia]

Sure, so was your prophet.

True. So was yours.

The only religion we should be discussing here is the religion of Prince Phillip.

[Whitemore]

This is crazy to me, I just woke up to this news. I was hoping he'd make it to his 100th birthday, that would have been huge for him. Hopefully it was a peaceful death and he was made as comfortable as possible in his final hours. God save the Queen and all that.

I woke up with the news and felt sad about it. And then wondered how Elizabeth II must feel. She must be so devastated.

Agreed, I was texting my Mother about the news because she hadn't heard it. We almost Immediately thought of her Majesty, she must be going through so much pain right now, just imagine it. Your husband of 7 decades finally dies leaving you alone in your final years as Head of State of an entire country.

[The Nihilistic view]

Depends what your job is.

How much work per year does the busiest monarch do?

Length of time spent working has no relevance although probably more than you.

But why are you so afraid to actually list your public service that you claim is greater than Philip's?

[Forsher]

True. So was yours.

The only religion we should be discussing here is the religion of Prince Phillip.

I maintain there's a valid comparison to be made with Rastafarianism.

[Alcala-Cordel]

Not at this degree, and I actually detest Churchill.

Somehow I'm not surprised.

friendly reminder that Churchill might've been opposed to the Nazis but he was still a huge racist and was responsible for the Bengal Famine

[Islamic Holy Sites]

How much work per year does the busiest monarch do?

Length of time spent working has no relevance although probably more than you.

But why are you so afraid to actually list your public service that you claim is greater than Philip's?

Because
1. You expect me to remember everything?
2. When did I say that?
3. Because I'm not an adult yet.

[Islamic Holy Sites]

True. So was yours.

The only religion we should be discussing here is the religion of Prince Phillip.

He brought it up.

[Adamede]

Was going to happen eventually. I don’t know much about the man but it has been said that the death of one man leaves the whole world worse off.

[Forsher]

How much work per year does the busiest monarch do?

Length of time spent working has no relevance although probably more than you.

But why are you so afraid to actually list your public service that you claim is greater than Philip's?

Look, I feel like there's a really funny joke to be made about community service here but I feel like there's no good way of stating it.