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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:30 am
by Fartsniffage
Islamic Holy Sites wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
You haven't done half the things this amazing man did. He left the world a better place. Show some respect instead of gaslighting.

Please, what did he do exactly?


Fought the Nazis. Married a Princess. Managed to rack up over 22,000 solo public appearances as a senior Royal. And an even higher number in support of Queen Elizabeth 2nd. Started and was a life long patron of the Duke of Edinburgh Awards. Patron of numerous charities. 73 years of being a symbol of Britain to the rest of the world. Diplomatic duties, moral boosting duties, the subject of a whole religion.

And a few other things.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:31 am
by Celritannia
The New California Republic wrote:
Islamic Holy Sites wrote:I didn't know you were a scot

Quite a few here. We get everywhere, like sand.


"I hate Scots. They're rough, they're coarse, they're irritating, and they get everywhere"

PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:31 am
by Austria-Bohemia-Hungary
Alvecia wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:I find it very strange that people are going out of their way to post what essentially amounts to "I don't care"; surely the same could be achieved by not posting at all?

I saw Stephen Fry make much the same observation on Twitter.
Lot of people aggressively apathetic about the topic

For those who wants a gander at this tweet.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:31 am
by Forsher
Alvecia wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:I find it very strange that people are going out of their way to post what essentially amounts to "I don't care"; surely the same could be achieved by not posting at all?

I saw Stephen Fry make much the same observation on Twitter.
Lot of people aggressively apathetic about the topic


To be clear, Fry said:

Well, I for one am very sorry to see the old boy go. But I know there are plenty out there keen to tell us all how little they care. So keen that you might almost think that they … well … care


Because it looks you're saying he said "smallest violin" or something of the sort.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:32 am
by Celritannia
Arcticfoxxo wrote:how did he die


"He tripped and fell on his own shears."

PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:33 am
by The Nihilistic view
Fartsniffage wrote:
Islamic Holy Sites wrote:Please, what did he do exactly?


Fought the Nazis. Married a Princess. Managed to rack up over 22,000 solo public appearances as a senior Royal. And an even higher number in support of Queen Elizabeth 2nd. Started and was a life long patron of the Duke of Edinburgh Awards. Patron of numerous charities. 73 years of being a symbol of Britain to the rest of the world. Diplomatic duties, moral boosting duties, the subject of a whole religion.

And a few other things.


And jokes.... he strikes me as the sort of person who would have enjoyed bungee related jokes.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:33 am
by Vassenor
Arcticfoxxo wrote:how did he die


Unfortunate smelting accident.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:33 am
by Islamic Holy Sites
Salus Maior wrote:
Islamic Holy Sites wrote:We do not commemorate every war veteran's death like this. Why should he be?


Because he's the husband of the head of state and is an important cultural figure.

So what if he's husband of the head of state? He's a human being, just like us.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:34 am
by Droiden
Arvenia wrote:
Droiden wrote:Some dude who was born to the right family at the right time married the right person and did the right things. Not to mention his very questionable stance (which also goes for a lot of the royal family). People's relatives die every day, and they're all in mourning.

As South Reinkalistan said, the smallest violin in the world is playing.

Dude, that is not nice. Pay some respect instead.


Not everything in the world is meant to be nice. Just because he was a person (at that, a person who made his way by marrying arguably the most powerful monarch in the world at that time) who died and has family doesn't entitle you to your own pity party. If being a human being is the only prerequisite for respect, we'd be respecting the likes of Adolf Hitler (Note: In no way am I making the claim that Prince Philip is in any way worse than Hitler).

PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:35 am
by Ifreann
Fartsniffage wrote:
Islamic Holy Sites wrote:Please, what did he do exactly?


Fought the Nazis. Married a Princess. Managed to rack up over 22,000 solo public appearances as a senior Royal. And an even higher number in support of Queen Elizabeth 2nd. Started and was a life long patron of the Duke of Edinburgh Awards. Patron of numerous charities. 73 years of being a symbol of Britain to the rest of the world. Diplomatic duties, moral boosting duties, the subject of a whole religion.

And a few other things.

Noted bungee enthusiast.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:36 am
by San Lumen
Droiden wrote:
Arvenia wrote:Dude, that is not nice. Pay some respect instead.


Not everything in the world is meant to be nice. Just because he was a person (at that, a person who made his way by marrying arguably the most powerful monarch in the world at that time) who died and has family doesn't entitle you to your own pity party. If being a human being is the only prerequisite for respect, we'd be respecting the likes of Adolf Hitler (Note: In no way am I making the claim that Prince Philip is in any way worse than Hitler).


He wasn't just a person. Through his humanitarian and charitable work the world is a better place.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:36 am
by The Archregimancy
Greater Miami Shores wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:
Ah yes, Prince Charles... the 'Red Prince' whose revolutionary march down Whitehall to set up the barricades to initiate the London Commune has been an inspiration to all Marxist-Leninists seeking to overthrow capitalism in the name of the urban proletariat. None of us can forget those amazing days.


What are you smoking?


I still think Prince Charles and a few of the other Royals have leftists social and political views, but many of you here tell me I am wrong, If I am I apologize to them right here and now on this thread. I will start to read up on them, if you can provide any links to read, thank you? GMS.


The monarchy is above politics; neither the monarch nor the heir articulate political positions. And it's rather hard to argue that someone whose entire life is dedicated to eventually becoming the next monarch is a 'leftist'.

The Prince of Wales does, however, hold a range of patronages, and supports many initiatives. You can read about some of them on his own website:

https://www.princeofwales.gov.uk/

But please remember that this thread is for discussion of the death of Charles's father, not whether championing sustainability is somehow 'leftist'.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:37 am
by Heloin
Ifreann wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Fought the Nazis. Married a Princess. Managed to rack up over 22,000 solo public appearances as a senior Royal. And an even higher number in support of Queen Elizabeth 2nd. Started and was a life long patron of the Duke of Edinburgh Awards. Patron of numerous charities. 73 years of being a symbol of Britain to the rest of the world. Diplomatic duties, moral boosting duties, the subject of a whole religion.

And a few other things.

Noted bungee enthusiast.

He lived how he died.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:38 am
by The New California Republic
Droiden wrote:
Arvenia wrote:Dude, that is not nice. Pay some respect instead.


Not everything in the world is meant to be nice. Just because he was a person (at that, a person who made his way by marrying arguably the most powerful monarch in the world at that time) who died and has family doesn't entitle you to your own pity party. If being a human being is the only prerequisite for respect, we'd be respecting the likes of Adolf Hitler (Note: In no way am I making the claim that Prince Philip is in any way worse than Hitler).

And you are still going to a lot of effort to say that you don't care. Odd.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:38 am
by Droiden
Arcticfoxxo wrote:how did he die


He consumed one (1) La Croix Sparkling Water.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:38 am
by Alvecia
Forsher wrote:
Alvecia wrote:I saw Stephen Fry make much the same observation on Twitter.
Lot of people aggressively apathetic about the topic


To be clear, Fry said:

Well, I for one am very sorry to see the old boy go. But I know there are plenty out there keen to tell us all how little they care. So keen that you might almost think that they … well … care


Because it looks you're saying he said "smallest violin" or something of the sort.

Not my intention. Drawing parallels between both points of "People who care so much to tell you how little they care"

PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:38 am
by Jetan
Droiden wrote:
Arvenia wrote:Dude, that is not nice. Pay some respect instead.


Not everything in the world is meant to be nice. Just because he was a person (at that, a person who made his way by marrying arguably the most powerful monarch in the world at that time) who died and has family doesn't entitle you to your own pity party. If being a human being is the only prerequisite for respect, we'd be respecting the likes of Adolf Hitler (Note: In no way am I making the claim that Prince Philip is in any way worse than Hitler).

Dude. Think about your comparisons a bit before posting. Despite your little disclaimer there you are indeed putting Prince Philip at the same line with Hitler with that post.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:39 am
by Ifreann
San Lumen wrote:
Droiden wrote:
Not everything in the world is meant to be nice. Just because he was a person (at that, a person who made his way by marrying arguably the most powerful monarch in the world at that time) who died and has family doesn't entitle you to your own pity party. If being a human being is the only prerequisite for respect, we'd be respecting the likes of Adolf Hitler (Note: In no way am I making the claim that Prince Philip is in any way worse than Hitler).


He wasn't just a person. Through his humanitarian and charitable work the world is a better place.

Doing charity work doesn't make one superhuman. Maybe chill out with the worship.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:39 am
by Islamic Holy Sites
Fartsniffage wrote:
Islamic Holy Sites wrote:Please, what did he do exactly?


Fought the Nazis. Married a Princess. Managed to rack up over 22,000 solo public appearances as a senior Royal. And an even higher number in support of Queen Elizabeth 2nd. Started and was a life long patron of the Duke of Edinburgh Awards. Patron of numerous charities. 73 years of being a symbol of Britain to the rest of the world. Diplomatic duties, moral boosting duties, the subject of a whole religion.

And a few other things.

Fought the Nazis: Churchill wasn't exactly a great person either, and many others did just that.

Married a princess: So?

Racked up 22,000 appearances: Please see how much royals work per year then come back.

Supports QE2: Do I care? Monarchy should be abolished.

DofE: We don't mourn like this when makers of other NGO's die, but that is a good thing, don't get me wrong.

Charities: ^^^

A symbol of Britain: Not much to be proud of currently, if I'm honest.

Diplomatic duties: What ones exactly? Also Foreign Ministry takes care of that. When a foreign minister ies we don't mourn like this.

Moral boosting: Another ministry does that, see ^^^

Religion thing: Explain?

PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:40 am
by The Nihilistic view
Islamic Holy Sites wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
Because he's the husband of the head of state and is an important cultural figure.

So what if he's husband of the head of state? He's a human being, just like us.


That's just it, he wasn't a human being just like us. He had a sense of duty and public service the like of which we have never seen and will probably never see again. Given his actual position I'd say the way he has carried himself is actually a larger personal burden than the burden carried by the Queen.

The way he has lived his life has lessons that pretty much anybody can learn from in the public sphere and espechally with modern trends that example will be a loss greater than most.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:40 am
by Heloin
Ifreann wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
He wasn't just a person. Through his humanitarian and charitable work the world is a better place.

Doing charity work doesn't make one superhuman. Maybe chill out with the worship.

Maybe San is part of the Prince Philip Movement. Don't judge.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:42 am
by Hopal
Islamic Holy Sites wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Fought the Nazis. Married a Princess. Managed to rack up over 22,000 solo public appearances as a senior Royal. And an even higher number in support of Queen Elizabeth 2nd. Started and was a life long patron of the Duke of Edinburgh Awards. Patron of numerous charities. 73 years of being a symbol of Britain to the rest of the world. Diplomatic duties, moral boosting duties, the subject of a whole religion.

And a few other things.

Fought the Nazis: Churchill wasn't exactly a great person either, and many others did just that.

Married a princess: So?

Racked up 22,000 appearances: Please see how much royals work per year then come back.

Supports QE2: Do I care? Monarchy should be abolished.

DofE: We don't mourn like this when makers of other NGO's die, but that is a good thing, don't get me wrong.

Charities: ^^^

A symbol of Britain: Not much to be proud of currently, if I'm honest.

Diplomatic duties: What ones exactly? Also Foreign Ministry takes care of that. When a foreign minister ies we don't mourn like this.

Moral boosting: Another ministry does that, see ^^^

Religion thing: Explain?

We did mourn Churchill, we did mourn Captain Sir Tom Moore, we do mourn Foreign Ministers most of the time.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:43 am
by SD_Film Artists
Heloin wrote:
Islamic Holy Sites wrote:Please, what did he do exactly?

He did serve in the Royal Navy in World War II.


That and escaping the removal of the Greek monarchy, having much of his family die when he was young, and founding things like the Duke of Edinburgh Award.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:43 am
by Islamic Holy Sites
The Nihilistic view wrote:
Islamic Holy Sites wrote:So what if he's husband of the head of state? He's a human being, just like us.


That's just it, he wasn't a human being just like us. He had a sense of duty and public service the like of which we have never seen and will probably never see again. Given his actual position I'd say the way he has carried himself is actually a larger personal burden than the burden carried by the Queen.

The way he has lived his life has lessons that pretty much anybody can learn from in the public sphere and espechally with modern trends that example will be a loss greater than most.

How much public service did he do? Much less than a normal UK citizen, that's for sure. Also, what do you mean by duty?

PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:45 am
by The Nihilistic view
Islamic Holy Sites wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
That's just it, he wasn't a human being just like us. He had a sense of duty and public service the like of which we have never seen and will probably never see again. Given his actual position I'd say the way he has carried himself is actually a larger personal burden than the burden carried by the Queen.

The way he has lived his life has lessons that pretty much anybody can learn from in the public sphere and espechally with modern trends that example will be a loss greater than most.

How much public service did he do? Much less than a normal UK citizen, that's for sure. Also, what do you mean by duty?


Cool, list everything you have done that might be considered public service and we can compare you both.