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Postby The Alma Mater » Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:47 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:I like prince Philip. He shows that immigrants from a war torn continent can become beloved by the local populace.


You like the idea of an 18 year old boy romancing his 13 year old "niece" ;) ?
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The Blaatschapen wrote:I like prince Philip. He shows that immigrants from a war torn continent can become beloved by the local populace.


You like the idea of an 18 year old boy romancing his 13 year old "niece" ;) ?



Around that time such age-gap couples were pretty common. Thankfully, in their case it turned out fine, unlike others.
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Postby Atheris » Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:59 am

Ariddia wrote:
Atheris wrote:Mostly because Mandela actually liked black South Africans.


Contrary to the nonsense propagated these days by ignorant wokists, Gandhi expressed his support for black South Africans, and tended to injured Zulu soldiers during the Bambatha Uprising in 1906. He was also an inspiration to African liberation struggles across the continent. There's a good reason why icons of black Africa from Kwame Nkrumah to Nelson Mandela drew inspiration from him and respected him.

Could we perhaps stop crying "racism!" where there is none? It diminishes and trivialises the brutal reality of racism where it does in fact exist.

I mean, it was just a joke, but here's a few examples of his actual racism.

to degrade us to the level of the raw kaffir whose occupation is hunting, and whose sole ambition is to collect a certain number of cattle to buy a wife with, and then, pass his life in indolence and nakedness.
1896.

About this mixing of the Kaffirs with the Indians, I must confess I feel most strongly. I think it is very unfair to the Indian population and it is an undue tax on even the proverbial patience of my countrymen.
1904.

We believe also that the white race in South Africa should be the predominating race.
1903.

We were marched off to a prison intended for Kaffirs. There, our garments were stamped with the letter “N”, which meant that we were being classed with the Natives. We were all prepared for hardships, but not quite for this experience. We could understand not being classed with the whites, but to be placed on the same level with the Natives seemed too much to put up with.
1908.

I have no doubt about the soundness of my advice. However much one may sympathise with the Bantus, Indians cannot make common cause with them.
1939.

A general belief seems to prevail in the Colony that the Indians are little better, if at all, than savages or the Natives of Africa. Even the children are taught to believe in that manner, with the result that the Indian is being dragged down to the position of a raw Kaffir.
1894.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:05 am

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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:08 am

Ifreann wrote:
Latvijas Otra Republika wrote:Because you’re to afraid to say it whilst they’re alive, you have a whole period to criticise it and confront their flaws before they are deceased. If you disrespect someone so quickly after they’re dead it just is taken as you being a petulant attention seeker.

Philip was criticised during his life, every single time he made one of these comments.


He was also taken out of context a lot to sell newspapers.

The chap who reported on the spear chucking Aborigines comment was on tv yesterday and gave the whole context of the remark. It was a perfectly sensible thing to ask given the context of the whole day. He only reported it without context because he knew it would be a front page in the UK and the Duke apparently pulled him up on it later in private.
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:11 am

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Ifreann wrote:Philip was criticised during his life, every single time he made one of these comments.


He was also taken out of context a lot to sell newspapers.

The chap who reported on the spear chucking Aborigines comment was on tv yesterday and gave the whole context of the remark. It was a perfectly sensible thing to ask given the context of the whole day. He only reported it without context because he knew it would be a front page in the UK and the Duke apparently pulled him up on it later in private.


And the rest?
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Postby Aterman » Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:14 am

South Reinkalistan wrote:Ah yes, let's gather round and pay our respects to the man who lived a life of utter luxury because he was born into a somewhat relevant family and married the right woman.

The world's smallest fucking violin is playing right now.

Imagine being so sad as to insult a 99 year old, dead man just because of his social class.
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Postby Aterman » Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:15 am

Vassenor wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
He was also taken out of context a lot to sell newspapers.

The chap who reported on the spear chucking Aborigines comment was on tv yesterday and gave the whole context of the remark. It was a perfectly sensible thing to ask given the context of the whole day. He only reported it without context because he knew it would be a front page in the UK and the Duke apparently pulled him up on it later in private.


And the rest?


Shame that they slandered him. He didn't even get to be king, and they additionally slander the guy. Silky smooth logic.
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Postby Aterman » Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:16 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:I like prince Philip. He shows that immigrants from a war torn continent can become beloved by the local populace.


You like the idea of an 18 year old boy romancing his 13 year old "niece" ;) ?

This isn't even the worst of royal marriages, and you know it.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:17 am

Vassenor wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
He was also taken out of context a lot to sell newspapers.

The chap who reported on the spear chucking Aborigines comment was on tv yesterday and gave the whole context of the remark. It was a perfectly sensible thing to ask given the context of the whole day. He only reported it without context because he knew it would be a front page in the UK and the Duke apparently pulled him up on it later in private.


And the rest?


Given that the list you posted has some wild inaccuracies I would say that you made my point nicely.
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Postby Atheris » Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:17 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
And the rest?


Given that the list you posted has some wild inaccuracies I would say that you made my point nicely.

Not on Vass's side of the argument but it'd help your case if you pointed out at least a few of said inaccuracies.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:18 am

Aterman wrote:
Vassenor wrote:And the rest?

Shame that they slandered him. He didn't even get to be king, and they additionally slander the guy. Silky smooth logic.

He would never have got to be king, it literally was not an option.
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Postby Western Fardelshufflestein » Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:20 am

Aterman wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
You like the idea of an 18 year old boy romancing his 13 year old "niece" ;) ?

This isn't even the worst of royal marriages, and you know it.

Queen Victoria literally married her first cousin.

And don't even get me started on the Habsburgs.

Long story short: Royals are friggin' weird.
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:20 am

Aterman wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
And the rest?


Shame that they slandered him. He didn't even get to be king, and they additionally slander the guy. Silky smooth logic.


Why should he have gotten to be King?
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Postby Punished UMN » Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:26 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:I like prince Philip. He shows that immigrants from a war torn continent can become beloved by the local populace.


You like the idea of an 18 year old boy romancing his 13 year old "niece" ;) ?

My grandparents got married at 14, it was a different time.
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Postby Heloin » Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:27 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Aterman wrote:Shame that they slandered him. He didn't even get to be king, and they additionally slander the guy. Silky smooth logic.

He would never have got to be king, it literally was not an option.

If a whole lot of people died he would theoretically be able to claim the Greek throne back before marrying Elizabeth. Not that it's a throne you'd necessarily want to hold with the benefit of hindsight.
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Postby Punished UMN » Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:29 am

Heloin wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:He would never have got to be king, it literally was not an option.

If a whole lot of people died he would theoretically be able to claim the Greek throne back before marrying Elizabeth. Not that it's a throne you'd necessarily want to hold with the benefit of hindsight.

More coups, your grace?
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Postby Atheris » Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:29 am

Heloin wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:He would never have got to be king, it literally was not an option.

If a whole lot of people died he would theoretically be able to claim the Greek throne back before marrying Elizabeth. Not that it's a throne you'd necessarily want to hold with the benefit of hindsight.

Couldn't he also claim the Danish throne? His family is Danish-Greek, IIRC.
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Postby Western Fardelshufflestein » Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:29 am

Heloin wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:He would never have got to be king, it literally was not an option.

If a whole lot of people died he would theoretically be able to claim the Greek throne back before marrying Elizabeth. Not that it's a throne you'd necessarily want to hold with the benefit of hindsight.

The...the Greek throne?

Oh. It no longer exists.
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:36 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
And the rest?


Given that the list you posted has some wild inaccuracies I would say that you made my point nicely.


So because you lightly tugged on one thread the whole carpet unravels by magic?
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Punished UMN wrote:
Heloin wrote:If a whole lot of people died he would theoretically be able to claim the Greek throne back before marrying Elizabeth. Not that it's a throne you'd necessarily want to hold with the benefit of hindsight.

More coups, your grace?

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Heloin wrote:If a whole lot of people died he would theoretically be able to claim the Greek throne back before marrying Elizabeth. Not that it's a throne you'd necessarily want to hold with the benefit of hindsight.

Couldn't he also claim the Danish throne? His family is Danish-Greek, IIRC.

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Postby Lewanda » Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:38 am

Well he already seemed dead. The man looked like a walking corpse.

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Postby Punished UMN » Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:38 am

Vassenor wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Given that the list you posted has some wild inaccuracies I would say that you made my point nicely.


So because you lightly tugged on one thread the whole carpet unravels by magic?

I said it earlier in the thread, but it seems a weird double standard to me that people have been all over the internet shitting on Prince Philip for making a few off-color jokes, but I've seen nothing but praise for DMX, who wrote a song celebrating the murder of LGBT people.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:40 am

Lewanda wrote:Well he already seemed dead. The man looked like a walking corpse.

To be fair I'm sure if any of us reached age 99 then none of us will be winning any beauty awards...
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