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Postby The Alma Mater » Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:30 pm

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Resilient Acceleration wrote:TL; DR, is a conspiracy theory closely related to QAnon and the pile about a certain mind-altering drug used by the elites for recreational purpose or something. Apparently this drug is said to be extracted from living people, probably children, acquired from human trafficking etc. Though, I'm not sure about what the OP is trying to say.

Thank you. That's ... utterly off-topic. Let's move on, please.


Sadly the "theory" that he and the queen use it is quite widespread on social media. Seems Britain is following the US lead where believing "alternative facts" is concerned.
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Postby The Restored Danelaw » Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:32 pm

Samudera Darussalam wrote:Rest in piece Prince Philip.

If it's alright to say this, I wonder what the queen is going to do? For some reason this makes me remember about the book I once read about Queen Victoria's rule after the death of her husband.
I mean Queen Victoria lost her husband at a relatively young age -it was somewhat strange at the time that she never married again, if I recall correctly. Queen Elizabeth II is like, what, 94?
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Postby Samudera Darussalam » Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:38 pm

The Restored Danelaw wrote:
Samudera Darussalam wrote:Rest in piece Prince Philip.

If it's alright to say this, I wonder what the queen is going to do? For some reason this makes me remember about the book I once read about Queen Victoria's rule after the death of her husband.
I mean Queen Victoria lost her husband at a relatively young age -it was somewhat strange at the time that she never married again, if I recall correctly. Queen Elizabeth II is like, what, 94?

Yeah, she is really old.
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Postby Western Fardelshufflestein » Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:40 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:It occurs to me that in only a few months he would have received a letter from his wife congratulating him on turning 100.

I don't know why, but it strikes me as profoundly sad that this couldn't happen.

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And he spent the rest of his life sitting on his ass, living in luxury off the people's money.


Yeah I think he sat on his arse about 22,200 times.
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Postby Galimencia » Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:57 pm

His death signifies the end of an era. He and the Queen have lived and performed their duties for a long long time and they now deserve to die in peace.
And regarding all the toxicity that I can see in this thread, this man served in World War II and even saw fucking action, atleast respect him for being a War veteran even if you hate him for being a royal.
RIP Prince Philips. The UK will remember you. The world will remember you. .
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:05 am

Galimencia wrote:His death signifies the end of an era. He and the Queen have lived and performed their duties for a long long time and they now deserve to die in peace.
And regarding all the toxicity that I can see in this thread, this man served in World War II and even saw fucking action, atleast respect him for being a War veteran even if you hate him for being a royal.


You realise many people accuse him of sharing intel with the nazis?
Of course, we will never know if he did or not; so I agree we could give him the benefit of the doubt.
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:07 am

Galimencia wrote:His death signifies the end of an era. He and the Queen have lived and performed their duties for a long long time and they now deserve to die in peace.
And regarding all the toxicity that I can see in this thread, this man served in World War II and even saw fucking action, atleast respect him for being a War veteran even if you hate him for being a royal.
RIP Prince Philips. The UK will remember you. The world will remember you. .


Is anyone else getting bored of the way his war service keeps being used as a cudgel to shut down discussion of the various racist and sexist things he's said over the years?
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Postby Bluelight-R006 » Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:11 am

First time since 1861 that the consort of a reigning British monarch has died.

Even more saddening is that he’d missed out on his centennial by just two months. :(

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Postby The Alma Mater » Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:14 am

Vassenor wrote:
Galimencia wrote:His death signifies the end of an era. He and the Queen have lived and performed their duties for a long long time and they now deserve to die in peace.
And regarding all the toxicity that I can see in this thread, this man served in World War II and even saw fucking action, atleast respect him for being a War veteran even if you hate him for being a royal.
RIP Prince Philips. The UK will remember you. The world will remember you. .


Is anyone else getting bored of the way his war service keeps being used as a cudgel to shut down discussion of the various racist and sexist things he's said over the years?


I honestly wonder if those some people who say "he was a warhero, so ignore the things he said in the 70 subsequent years" are also vehemently against criticising communists.

After all, the commies killed Hitler.
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Postby The Free Joy State » Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:15 am

Vassenor wrote:
Galimencia wrote:His death signifies the end of an era. He and the Queen have lived and performed their duties for a long long time and they now deserve to die in peace.
And regarding all the toxicity that I can see in this thread, this man served in World War II and even saw fucking action, atleast respect him for being a War veteran even if you hate him for being a royal.
RIP Prince Philips. The UK will remember you. The world will remember you. .


Is anyone else getting bored of the way his war service keeps being used as a cudgel to shut down discussion of the various racist and sexist things he's said over the years?

Prince Philip had controversial opinions. He put his foot in his mouth on a number of occasions.

But there is such a thing as respect for the recently deceased. There is such a thing as acknowledging that a member of someone's family has died, and that that family -- whatever you may think of what they represent -- will be distraught.

There is a time and a place to go into what things were said while an individual was alive. But within 24 hours of the person's death -- a fellow human being with loved ones -- seems a highly inappropriate time to do it.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:17 am

Vassenor wrote:
Galimencia wrote:His death signifies the end of an era. He and the Queen have lived and performed their duties for a long long time and they now deserve to die in peace.
And regarding all the toxicity that I can see in this thread, this man served in World War II and even saw fucking action, atleast respect him for being a War veteran even if you hate him for being a royal.
RIP Prince Philips. The UK will remember you. The world will remember you. .


Is anyone else getting bored of the way his war service keeps being used as a cudgel to shut down discussion of the various racist and sexist things he's said over the years?

You know what else is tiring? Applying 2021 mores to people born in 1921 and then keep doing it for most of 29 pages.

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Postby The Alma Mater » Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:18 am

The Free Joy State wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Is anyone else getting bored of the way his war service keeps being used as a cudgel to shut down discussion of the various racist and sexist things he's said over the years?

Prince Philip had controversial opinions. He put his foot in his mouth on a number of occasions.

But there is such a thing as respect for the recently deceased. There is such a thing as acknowledging that a member of someone's family has died, and that that family -- whatever you may think of what they represent -- will be distraught.

There is a time and a place to go into what things were said while an individual was alive. But within 24 hours of the person's death -- a fellow human being with loved ones -- seems a highly inappropriate time to do it.


With normal people - agreed.
With people whose death dominates the news where people crawl over eachother to sing his praises - not so much. It is good to nuance the glorification.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:19 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Is anyone else getting bored of the way his war service keeps being used as a cudgel to shut down discussion of the various racist and sexist things he's said over the years?

You know what else is tiring? Applying 2021 mores to people born in 1921 and then keep doing it for most of 29 pages.


Surprisingly, being born 1921 does not mean you should keep your mores all the way up till 2021.
Yes, it would be wrong to criticise him for things he said in 1940 which were considered perfectly fine back then. But things said less than 10 years ago ? Yeah. Free game.
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Postby Galimencia » Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:21 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Is anyone else getting bored of the way his war service keeps being used as a cudgel to shut down discussion of the various racist and sexist things he's said over the years?


I honestly wonder if those some people who say "he was a warhero, so ignore the things he said in the 70 subsequent years" are also vehemently against criticising communists.

After all, the commies killed Hitler.

Well Churchill was a racist too. So should we pull down his statues and criticise him, ignoring the fact that he actually lead his fucking country in the time of it's worst crisis ?
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:29 am

Galimencia wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
I honestly wonder if those some people who say "he was a warhero, so ignore the things he said in the 70 subsequent years" are also vehemently against criticising communists.

After all, the commies killed Hitler.

Well Churchill was a racist too. So should we pull down his statues and criticise him, ignoring the fact that he actually lead his fucking country in the time of it's worst crisis ?


Yes.
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Postby Drongonia » Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:59 am

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Galimencia wrote:Well Churchill was a racist too. So should we pull down his statues and criticise him, ignoring the fact that he actually lead his fucking country in the time of it's worst crisis ?


Yes.

*Opinion discarded*

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Postby Vassenor » Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:12 am

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Yes.

*Opinion discarded*

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So why should being PM during a war mean we're not allowed to criticise him?
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Drongonia wrote:*Opinion discarded*

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So why should being PM during a war mean we're not allowed to criticise him?

Criticism is not the same thing as tearing his statue down. Go ahead, criticise him, the freedom to do so was one of the things he lead the fight to protect.
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Postby Nevertopia » Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:22 am

i remember when my grandpa passed away my grandmas health declined rapidly within the following months moreso that would make sense for her advanced age and passed shortly after. Perhaps the Queen isn't too long for this world as well.
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Postby Great Pacific Switzerland » Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:23 am

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Galimencia wrote:Well Churchill was a racist too. So should we pull down his statues and criticise him, ignoring the fact that he actually lead his fucking country in the time of it's worst crisis ?


Yes.

Stop shitting up my thread. We aren't here to be twats about the death of someone christ, the thread is about mourning Prince Philip. Have some humility for fucksake
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Yes.

Stop shitting up my thread. We aren't here to be twats about the death of someone christ, the thread is about mourning Prince Philip. Have some humility for fucksake


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Great Pacific Switzerland wrote:Stop shitting up my thread. We aren't here to be twats about the death of someone christ, the thread is about mourning Prince Philip. Have some humility for fucksake


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Okay but his request to essentially stop the light threadjack still stands, regardless of thread ownership.
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Okay but his request to essentially stop the light threadjack still stands, regardless of thread ownership.


So how is talking about his more problematic views "[being] twats about the death of someone"?
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Postby Great Pacific Switzerland » Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:39 am

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Great Pacific Switzerland wrote:Stop shitting up my thread. We aren't here to be twats about the death of someone christ, the thread is about mourning Prince Philip. Have some humility for fucksake


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I'm aware. What I'm saying is don't cause a fuckin flamewar or be disrespectful to a thread about the deceased
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