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Postby The Dodo Republic » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:47 am

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The Dodo Republic wrote:How was he a racist? This is a man who fought the god damn nazis. PLEASE. GIVE THE MAN A GOD DAMN BREAK


He certainly had his foot planted firmly in his mouth on more than one occasion.

OK. YEA HE MIGHT HAVE PUT HIS FOOT IN HIS MOUTH BUT HE WAS 90 SOMETHING YEARS OLD FOR GOD SAKES.
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Postby Socialist States of Ludistan » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:48 am

He was a good lad, he was more than just a royal, he was a WWII war veteran, and a great man.
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Postby Eidelhor » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:48 am

Vassenor wrote:
The Dodo Republic wrote:How was he a racist? This is a man who fought the god damn nazis. PLEASE. GIVE THE MAN A GOD DAMN BREAK


He certainly had his foot planted firmly in his mouth on more than one occasion.


Theres a difference between ignorance, not knowing and being a racist

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Postby Socialist States of Ludistan » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:50 am

Vassenor wrote:
The Dodo Republic wrote:How was he a racist? This is a man who fought the god damn nazis. PLEASE. GIVE THE MAN A GOD DAMN BREAK


He certainly had his foot planted firmly in his mouth on more than one occasion.

Just because you sometimes make slightly racist jokes, doesn’t mean you’re a racist.
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Postby Zeloria » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:50 am

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Zeloria wrote:So I've heard that the Queen writes a letter to every British citizen that has reached a 100 years old, and now I'm sad that Philip dies because it means that we're not going to have the funny moment where Elizabeth writes a letter to Philip. :(


You mean like the time she had to write one to her own mother?


Wait she did?

*looks it up

She did, that's pretty cool.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:51 am

Great Pacific Switzerland wrote:Didn't expect this shit to happen. Unexpected considering how long both the Queen and Phillip lived for

God bless him, and may he rest in peace

https://twitter.com/RoyalFamily/status/ ... 5323212800
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-09/ ... 99/8496412

Yes, I get it, he was fairly unwell in recent times. But considering how long the British Royals have lived for without passing away is shocking.

According to Wikipedia and other sources:

Philip was born into the Greek and Danish royal families. He was born in Greece, but his family was exiled from the country when he was an infant. After being educated in France, Germany, and the United Kingdom, he joined the British Royal Navy in 1939, aged 18. From July 1939, he began corresponding with the thirteen-year-old Princess Elizabeth, whom he had first met in 1934. During the Second World War he served with distinction in the Mediterranean and Pacific Fleets. After the war, Philip was granted permission by George VI to marry Elizabeth. Before the official announcement of their engagement in July 1947, he abandoned his Greek and Danish titles and styles, became a naturalised British subject, and adopted his maternal grandparents' surname Mountbatten. He married Elizabeth on 20 November 1947. Just before the wedding, he was granted the style His Royal Highness and created Duke of Edinburgh, Earl of Merioneth, and Baron Greenwich by King George VI. Philip left active military service when Elizabeth became queen in 1952, having reached the rank of commander, and was made a British prince in 1957.

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Postby Laurenthea » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:51 am

Socialist States of Ludistan wrote:He was a good lad, he was more than just a royal, he was a WWII war veteran, and a great man.

THIS.

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Postby The Dodo Republic » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:52 am

Socialist States of Ludistan wrote:

Just because you sometimes make slightly racist jokes, doesn’t mean you’re a racist.

Agreed. I doubt one person has made not one statement that somebody found offensive.
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:52 am

A hero dies.
A very, very sad day.
He was a racist but for Christ’s sake he fought the Nazis. He’s a dead man. Anyone who won’t respect that leave the thread. Let him Rest In Peace.
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Postby Railroad Crossing » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:52 am

prince Phillip did a lot of good things
now let’s see if Elizabeth II will live for another 50 years or so
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Postby Jarvikan » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:53 am

Laurenthea wrote:
Socialist States of Ludistan wrote:He was a good lad, he was more than just a royal, he was a WWII war veteran, and a great man.

THIS.

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Postby The Archregimancy » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:58 am

On the 'Prince Philip was a racist' front, it's perhaps worth remembering that his mother Princess Alice is counted as 'Righteous Among the Nations' for sheltering a Jewish family in Athens during the Second World War; Prince Philip attended the commemoration ceremony at Yad Vashem in Israel in 1994. She also undertook a lot of surreptitious relief work in occupied Greece, where she was one of only two members of the royal family to stay through the occupation. Again, I don't think it unlikely that an old-fashioned 99 year old former naval officer raised in European royalty held some views that we would consider unacceptable in 2021, but - even leaving aside his own war service - it's not as if the family are a bunch of irredeemable racists who never lifted a finger to help the less fortunate.



His great-aunt Grand Duchess Elizabeth Feodorovna of Russia is also an Orthodox saint who was martyred by the Bolsheviks (both Philip's mother and great-aunt became Orthodox nuns once widowed); though I suppose that's neither here nor there in the context of this thread.

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Postby Forsher » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:58 am

Jakit wrote:Why would she say it for no reason? It dosent make sense.


I mean, let's assume it was a lie... it's very easy to see how such a statement would be financially beneficial to Oprah and the Sussexes.

It almost certainly did happen, of course, but you're acting like there isn't any way to leverage that kind of story into material gain.

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South Reinkalistan wrote:Ah yes, let's gather round and pay our respects to the man who lived a life of utter luxury because he was born into a somewhat relevant family and married the right woman.

The world's smallest fucking violin is playing right now.


Look I'm not royalty's No.1 fan either, but its polite to pay respects to the dead


The problem with what SR is doing is that they're having a go at the people "paying the respects", not the person who's died or the institution.

As Nerv said on the occasion of Thatcher's death:

Yes, she is dead, that does not mean that we cannot have a discussion about her life and the value there of. Posts along the lines of "Show some respect!" are respectfully asked to be trashed.
Yes, some people don't/didn't like her, but gloating over her death will be considered trolling. Posts along the lines of "Ding dong the witch is dead" will end up with a house dropped on them.
Yes, some people love/loved her, but getting angry over people who don't think she personally walked on water over the Falklands to engage in a one-woman brawl with Argentina will also be highly frowned on. Posts along the lines of "You idiots don't realize how great she was!" will be sunk to the bottom of the sea.

In other words, as always, debate, discuss, have fun, but don't attack others or gloat. We will be watching this thread.


Of course, moderation policy may have changed in the last eight (almost to the day) years.

Dying was the greatest PR stunt Michael Jackson ever pulled. If you're not old enough to remember, at the time of his death, Jackson was usually called Wacko Jacko and suspected of being a paedophile. About eight-ten years later, of course, it once again became acceptable/common to bring those points up. The only reason this was possible was because people confuse "being respectful" with "veneration" (see one of SR's other posts) and treat death as some reason to not talk about, for example with Philip, the "do you still throw spears?" incident because they confuse "respecting other peoples' responses" with "being charitable to the dead". Case in point, from the BBC obituary:

This tendency to be forthright was interpreted by some as boorishness and sometimes got him into trouble. He certainly gained a reputation for misjudging situations, particularly when he was abroad.

He made one of his most controversial comments while accompanying the Queen on a state visit to China in 1986. He made what he thought was a private remark about "slitty eyes".

The tabloids went into a frenzy, although it seemed to cause little concern in China.

On a visit to Australia in 2002, he asked an Aboriginal businessman whether "you still throw spears at each other".


Note that the BBC is not attacking anyone for talking about Philip simply for mentioning these two examples.
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Greater Miami Shores wrote:I am a strong supporter of the British Royal Family and the Crown, not the current heirs leftists views and politics.


Prince William is a leftist?

This will come as a surprise to those of us who actually live in the United Kingdom.

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Postby Ifreann » Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:00 am

Fascinating to see how American right wing media has influenced people into feigning passionate love and respect for Prince Philip.
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Forsher wrote:Of course, moderation policy may have changed in the last eight (almost to the day) years.


Farnhamia has already intervened to ask people to knock it off, and drop this line of discussion; something which you perhaps missed:

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South Reinkalistan wrote:You don't deserve respect merely because you are human. As NSCR quite neatly put it, the only reason we all care about this is because the dude was born into some deadbeat noble family and got lucky by marrying some rich heir to the British throne. Otherwise, only a handful of people would care. He's not "British through and through" -- none of the royal family are. He was an aristocrat who lived off of the toil of British people.

"I'M GOING TO DISRESPECT THE DECEASED BECAUSE THEY ARE ROYALS AND LIVE IN LUXURY"
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Got your attention. Its disgusting you are disrespecting the deceased not because they are scum or criminal, just because they are monarchs. Fuck me its like glorifying the death of a homeless man because he is broken down and has nowhere to go
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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:03 am

The Archregimancy wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:I am a strong supporter of the British Royal Family and the Crown, not the current heirs leftists views and politics.


Prince William is a leftist?

This will come as a surprise to those of us who actually live in the United Kingdom.

You should see the hammer and sickle graffiti he left behind in St. Andrews, painted the town red he did.
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Postby Eidelhor » Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:03 am

The Archregimancy wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:I am a strong supporter of the British Royal Family and the Crown, not the current heirs leftists views and politics.


Prince William is a leftist?

This will come as a surprise to those of us who actually live in the United Kingdom.


I'm British and that's a surprise to me o.0

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:04 am

The Archregimancy wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:I am a strong supporter of the British Royal Family and the Crown, not the current heirs leftists views and politics.


Prince William is a leftist?

This will come as a surprise to those of us who actually live in the United Kingdom.

ok Perhaps not Prince William, but Prince Charles is a Leftist.
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:05 am

Ifreann wrote:Fascinating to see how American right wing media has influenced people into feigning passionate love and respect for Prince Philip.

Clearly it's the American right-wing media's fault and not people actually having positive opinions of him.
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Met him once when I got my D of E gold.

Seemed like a nice bloke.

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