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Tsarus 2142 wrote:The CEO is more passionate, and is motivated to work harder, yet his life is fulfilling.

The worker's sacrifice is significantly greater. While the CEO's occupation is literally his meaningful life, simultaneously making millions or billions, the worker is simply wasting 8 hours of his life for 5 days a week, only to partake in various activities which mmmm make this dull, monotonous, HELLISH life a bit enjoyable.

The worker's life is utterly humiliating.

I want to go off on a tangent about industrialism, but I will restrain myself.

Tsarus 2142 wrote:The CEO is more passionate, and is motivated to work harder, yet his life is fulfilling.

The worker's sacrifice is significantly greater. While the CEO's occupation is literally his meaningful life, simultaneously making millions or billions, the worker is simply wasting 8 hours of his life for 5 days a week, only to partake in various activities which mmmm make this dull, monotonous, HELLISH life a bit enjoyable.

The worker's life is utterly humiliating.

I want to go off on a tangent about industrialism, but I will restrain myself.

Alcala-Cordel wrote:

Tsarus 2142 wrote:The CEO is more passionate, and is motivated to work harder, yet his life is fulfilling.

The worker's sacrifice is significantly greater. While the CEO's occupation is literally his meaningful life, simultaneously making millions or billions, the worker is simply wasting 8 hours of his life for 5 days a week, only to partake in various activities which mmmm make this dull, monotonous, HELLISH life a bit enjoyable.

The worker's life is utterly humiliating.

I want to go off on a tangent about industrialism, but I will restrain myself.

The CEO is lazier, but tries to justify their exploitation of the masses by lying to the public and sometimes themselves about how they earned it through hard work. I'm gonna call their bluff and say they're delusional if they think they're that dedicated.


The worker, on the other hand, is pretty accurate to what you said.

Washington Resistance Army wrote:

Alcala-Cordel wrote:The CEO is lazier, but tries to justify their exploitation of the masses by lying to the public and sometimes themselves about how they earned it through hard work. I'm gonna call their bluff and say they're delusional if they think they're that dedicated.


The worker, on the other hand, is pretty accurate to what you said.

CEO's are many things but lazy isn't one of them, that's a claim entirely separate from reality and really only exists in the minds of middle class Twitter socialists. The average CEO works for nearly 20 more hours every week than the average worker.

Infected Mushroom wrote:

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
CEO's are many things but lazy isn't one of them, that's a claim entirely separate from reality and really only exists in the minds of middle class Twitter socialists. The average CEO works for nearly 20 more hours every week than the average worker.

But what about sacrifice?

Washington Resistance Army wrote:

Infected Mushroom wrote:
But what about sacrifice?

Yeah the average worker makes a lot more of those. There's no way to get around that in industrial society really, life sucks for the majority of people.

Infected Mushroom wrote:Please consider the following hypothetical:

The CEO of Basic Psych is a workaholic. Close to 24/7 they are at meetings, running things from the phone, planning, creating documents, coming up with and administering new projects. We are talking far far far in excess of the 9 to 5; there is burning of the midnight oil. However, the CEO loves his job and it is their life’s passion.

Now let’s pick an employee of Basic Psych. This Worker works from 9 to 5. Sometimes they are asked to work overtime. They absolutely loathe their job but as a matter of social convention and economic necessity, they work hard to keep the job and stay relevant. When the Worker is Off, they party, drink, and completely turn off from work. 5-6 days of the week though, it’s a living hell from 9 to 5-7. However, they are determined to not show any cracks in their performance.

Who is the harder worker? Who works harder?

Society looks at people like Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, and Warren Buffet and go... hey they are in the office all the time, they are motivated, competitive... that’s a hard worker. Or are they just fortunate to have their passions align with their work? Meanwhile, the worker is often (unfairly?) seen as someone who just punches a clock while in actuality, they’ve possibly sacrificed close to their whole life.

The CEO or the Worker? Who works harder? How do you decide.

The Worker actually works harder because they make more sacrifices (in fact, they sacrifice the majority of their lives). The CEO, while I’m sure with the massive overtime and off the clock work does have sacrifice, is for the most part doing work that is in tune with their life’s actual passion.

Tsarus 2142 wrote:The worker's sacrifice is significantly greater. While the CEO's occupation is literally his meaningful life, simultaneously making millions or billions.

Washington Resistance Army wrote:

Alcala-Cordel wrote:The CEO is lazier, but tries to justify their exploitation of the masses by lying to the public and sometimes themselves about how they earned it through hard work. I'm gonna call their bluff and say they're delusional if they think they're that dedicated.


The worker, on the other hand, is pretty accurate to what you said.

CEO's are many things but lazy isn't one of them, that's a claim entirely separate from reality and really only exists in the minds of middle class Twitter socialists. The average CEO works for nearly 20 more hours every week than the average worker.

Alcala-Cordel wrote:

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
CEO's are many things but lazy isn't one of them, that's a claim entirely separate from reality and really only exists in the minds of middle class Twitter socialists. The average CEO works for nearly 20 more hours every week than the average worker.

source?

The study, launched in 2006 by Harvard professors Michael Porter and Nitin Nohria, tracked how 27 CEOs (only two women and 25 men) of companies with an average annual revenue of $13.1 billion spent their days. Data was collected from the CEOs in 15 minutes increments, 24 hours a day, seven days a week for three months. Overall, the study collected 60,000 CEO hours.

It reveals, on average, the leaders worked 9.7 hours per weekday, which totals just 48.5 hours per workweek. They also worked 79 percent of weekend days at an average of 3.9 hours daily, and 70 percent of vacation days with an average of 2.4 hours on those days. Altogether, the study found that CEOs worked an average of 62.5 hours a week.

(The average American works 44 hours per week, or 8.8 hours per day, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, with nearly a third reportedly working on the weekend.)

Washington Resistance Army wrote:

Alcala-Cordel wrote:source?

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/20/harvard ... l-day.html

The study, launched in 2006 by Harvard professors Michael Porter and Nitin Nohria, tracked how 27 CEOs (only two women and 25 men) of companies with an average annual revenue of $13.1 billion spent their days. Data was collected from the CEOs in 15 minutes increments, 24 hours a day, seven days a week for three months. Overall, the study collected 60,000 CEO hours.

It reveals, on average, the leaders worked 9.7 hours per weekday, which totals just 48.5 hours per workweek. They also worked 79 percent of weekend days at an average of 3.9 hours daily, and 70 percent of vacation days with an average of 2.4 hours on those days. Altogether, the study found that CEOs worked an average of 62.5 hours a week.

(The average American works 44 hours per week, or 8.8 hours per day, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, with nearly a third reportedly working on the weekend.)

Infected Mushroom wrote:

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/20/harvard ... l-day.html

I'm always impressed at how well informed some individual posters are and how they are such good researchers.

Washington Resistance Army wrote:

Alcala-Cordel wrote:source?

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/20/harvard ... l-day.html

The study, launched in 2006 by Harvard professors Michael Porter and Nitin Nohria, tracked how 27 CEOs (only two women and 25 men) of companies with an average annual revenue of $13.1 billion spent their days. Data was collected from the CEOs in 15 minutes increments, 24 hours a day, seven days a week for three months. Overall, the study collected 60,000 CEO hours.

It reveals, on average, the leaders worked 9.7 hours per weekday, which totals just 48.5 hours per workweek. They also worked 79 percent of weekend days at an average of 3.9 hours daily, and 70 percent of vacation days with an average of 2.4 hours on those days. Altogether, the study found that CEOs worked an average of 62.5 hours a week.

(The average American works 44 hours per week, or 8.8 hours per day, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, with nearly a third reportedly working on the weekend.)

Grinning Dragon wrote:You are comparing apples to oranges here. They both work hard.
Comparing the type of work load vs another isn't comparable as each require different skill sets.
The 9 to 5 fellow most likely wouldn't be able to do the CEO's job and the CEO most likely wouldn't be able to the 9 to 5 job.

Grinning Dragon wrote:You are comparing apples to oranges here. They both work hard.
Comparing the type of work load vs another isn't comparable as each require different skill sets.
The 9 to 5 fellow most likely wouldn't be able to do the CEO's job and the CEO most likely wouldn't be able to the 9 to 5 job.

Washington Resistance Army wrote:

Alcala-Cordel wrote:The CEO is lazier, but tries to justify their exploitation of the masses by lying to the public and sometimes themselves about how they earned it through hard work. I'm gonna call their bluff and say they're delusional if they think they're that dedicated.


The worker, on the other hand, is pretty accurate to what you said.

CEO's are many things but lazy isn't one of them, that's a claim entirely separate from reality and really only exists in the minds of middle class Twitter socialists. The average CEO works for nearly 20 more hours every week than the average worker.

Senkaku wrote:

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
CEO's are many things but lazy isn't one of them, that's a claim entirely separate from reality and really only exists in the minds of middle class Twitter socialists. The average CEO works for nearly 20 more hours every week than the average worker.

It’s a performance of workaholism to use the meritocratic ideal of “hard work” to legitimize their position in the hierarchy (a performance which, incidentally, they only have the resources and support to successfully pull off because they’re at the top). See, peons, I work much longer hours than you, so I deserve this! I bet if you had my job you wouldn’t even like having to work so hard! Never mind that I have a personal chef and trainer and a maid and a nanny and a driver and a personal shopper and top-rate medical care to make sure I can spend this much time in the office without having it affect my quality of life in any meaningful way...