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Do you think white supermascists should be able to express their views?

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Postby North Washington Republic » Sun May 30, 2021 6:13 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:I know there's the picture in the American mindset of Arabs as "the brown people" but at least half of them have peach/beige colored skin and many have light hair. Keep in mind when you see photos from the middle east of militias in Syria, the reason alot of them are dark skinned is because they're out there in the elements all day and night, rarely living in a solid dwelling. So in conclusion Sai, if you're worried about pale skin dying, Arabs and hispanics won't be the cause of that.


So why would I trade someone who's White and European for someone who can merely "pass" for White but also has all sorts of ancestry of non-White origins? Skin color is only part of the criteria for many people. My definition of White are those of primarily European ancestry who also have a pale enough phenotype and traits.

Ashkenazi Jews can be considered White for example from some people's perspective, because most were or are of majority European ancestry from their history of being assimilated into Europe or the former Soviet Union's populations before the Holocaust and other pograms got them to flee to Israel or to the US/Canada/elsewhere post 1945. Not all Jews are White however, because some stayed in the Levant/Middle East and never got sufficient European ancestry to "turn" White enough many generations later.

The Roman empire is more or less to blame for Ashkenazi Jews arising, because in the absence of Judea being conquered and destroyed, there would've been no Jewish disapora towards Europe.



Something tells me you haven’t taken a DNA test because you’re afraid to find out your not 100% white. ;)
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Postby Koletsia » Sun May 30, 2021 6:21 pm

North Washington Republic wrote:Something tells me you haven’t taken a DNA test because you’re afraid to find out your not 100% white. ;)


Imagine being so insecure about your identity that you surrender your own DNA for genetic harvesting.

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Postby North Washington Republic » Sun May 30, 2021 6:27 pm

Koletsia wrote:
North Washington Republic wrote:Something tells me you haven’t taken a DNA test because you’re afraid to find out your not 100% white. ;)


Imagine being so insecure about your identity that you surrender your own DNA for genetic harvesting.


More like “I’m afraid to find out that I’m not 100% white “
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Postby Saiwania » Sun May 30, 2021 6:30 pm

North Washington Republic wrote:More like “I’m afraid to find out that I’m not 100% white “


I'm non-Hispanic White and so are both sides of my immediate family. The biggest obstacle is that such a test probably costs more money than I'd want to spend and you can't exactly trust the accuracy of those tests. It can give a good estimate however. The risk is also that once that company has the results, they can do whatever they want with it, including selling it to China's government or whoever else and it'll backfire on you.
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Postby Suriyanakhon » Sun May 30, 2021 6:31 pm

Koletsia wrote:
North Washington Republic wrote:Something tells me you haven’t taken a DNA test because you’re afraid to find out your not 100% white. ;)


Imagine being so insecure about your identity that you surrender your own DNA for genetic harvesting.


It's pretty fun to get the results.
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Postby Salus Maior » Sun May 30, 2021 6:32 pm

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Koletsia wrote:
I fully understand your concerns regarding the invasion of our civilisation by people of backward medieval cultures but why is it a concern to you what colour of skin people have? Just trying to understand.


Medieval cultures are based though and Salafis hate it.


They had some sick jams.
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Postby Salus Maior » Sun May 30, 2021 6:34 pm

Suriyanakhon wrote:
Koletsia wrote:
Imagine being so insecure about your identity that you surrender your own DNA for genetic harvesting.


It's pretty fun to get the results.


Eh, I've thought about doing one of those. But I know I'm just going to get "northern European" with a sprinkling of Sicilian, and I don't really want to shell out the cash just to see that.
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Postby North Washington Republic » Sun May 30, 2021 6:37 pm

Saiwania wrote:
North Washington Republic wrote:More like “I’m afraid to find out that I’m not 100% white “


I'm non-Hispanic White and so are both sides of my immediate family. The biggest obstacle is that such a test probably costs more money than I'd want to spend and you can't exactly trust the accuracy of those tests. It can give a good estimate however. The risk is also that once that company has the results, they can do whatever they want with it, including selling it to China's government or whoever else and it'll backfire on you.


Lol, so I was right. You’re afraid to fine out the possibility of that your not 100% white. A lot of younger white nationalists are afraid of finding that out.
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Postby Nevertopia » Sun May 30, 2021 6:37 pm

Saiwania wrote:
North Washington Republic wrote:More like “I’m afraid to find out that I’m not 100% white “


I'm non-Hispanic White and so are both sides of my immediate family. The biggest obstacle is that such a test probably costs more money than I'd want to spend and you can't exactly trust the accuracy of those tests. It can give a good estimate however. The risk is also that once that company has the results, they can do whatever they want with it, including selling it to China's government or whoever else and it'll backfire on you.


no you're not, you're 1/4 Mediterranean from your italian grandmother's side.
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Postby Suriyanakhon » Sun May 30, 2021 6:37 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Suriyanakhon wrote:
It's pretty fun to get the results.


Eh, I've thought about doing one of those. But I know I'm just going to get "northern European" with a sprinkling of Sicilian, and I don't really want to shell out the cash just to see that.


I think 23andme's results are much more detailed, but are imperfect.
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Postby Koletsia » Sun May 30, 2021 6:37 pm

North Washington Republic wrote:More like “I’m afraid to find out that I’m not 100% white “


I don't care what colour my skin is, Washington. What I am concerned with, and believe others should be also, is the grotesque practice of genetic harvesting. To surrender the most fundamental essence of who you are physically simply in the hope that you are "1% Amerindian" or something, is a sad state of affairs. We know, it's not hip to be white anymore and any non-white percentages may be used as victim points. But those victim points come at a great cost.

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Postby Nevertopia » Sun May 30, 2021 6:39 pm

Koletsia wrote:
North Washington Republic wrote:More like “I’m afraid to find out that I’m not 100% white “


I don't care what colour my skin is, Washington. What I am concerned with, and believe others should be also, is the grotesque practice of genetic harvesting. To surrender the most fundamental essence of who you are physically simply in the hope that you are "1% Amerindian" or something, is a sad state of affairs. We know, it's not hip to be white anymore and any non-white percentages may be used as victim points. But those victim points come at a great cost.


theres nothing wrong with being mixed race. You're not surrendering any "fundamental essence". Skin color is as arbitrary as hair/eye color and nose width.
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Postby North Washington Republic » Sun May 30, 2021 6:39 pm

Koletsia wrote:
North Washington Republic wrote:More like “I’m afraid to find out that I’m not 100% white “


I don't care what colour my skin is, Washington. What I am concerned with, and believe others should be also, is the grotesque practice of genetic harvesting. To surrender the most fundamental essence of who you are physically simply in the hope that you are "1% Amerindian" or something, is a sad state of affairs. We know, it's not hip to be white anymore and any non-white percentages may be used as victim points. But those victim points come at a great cost.


I’m talking to Sai, who is open and proud white nationalist. That’s why
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Postby Atheris » Sun May 30, 2021 6:39 pm

Koletsia wrote:
North Washington Republic wrote:More like “I’m afraid to find out that I’m not 100% white “


I don't care what colour my skin is, Washington. What I am concerned with, and believe others should be also, is the grotesque practice of genetic harvesting. To surrender the most fundamental essence of who you are physically simply in the hope that you are "1% Amerindian" or something, is a sad state of affairs. We know, it's not hip to be white anymore and any non-white percentages may be used as victim points. But those victim points come at a great cost.

...Genetic harvesting? Sounds like conspiracy shit.
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Postby Nevertopia » Sun May 30, 2021 6:40 pm

Atheris wrote:
Koletsia wrote:
I don't care what colour my skin is, Washington. What I am concerned with, and believe others should be also, is the grotesque practice of genetic harvesting. To surrender the most fundamental essence of who you are physically simply in the hope that you are "1% Amerindian" or something, is a sad state of affairs. We know, it's not hip to be white anymore and any non-white percentages may be used as victim points. But those victim points come at a great cost.

...Genetic harvesting? Sounds like conspiracy shit.

oh wait, it is.
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Postby Salus Maior » Sun May 30, 2021 6:44 pm

Koletsia wrote:
North Washington Republic wrote:More like “I’m afraid to find out that I’m not 100% white “


I don't care what colour my skin is, Washington. What I am concerned with, and believe others should be also, is the grotesque practice of genetic harvesting. To surrender the most fundamental essence of who you are physically simply in the hope that you are "1% Amerindian" or something, is a sad state of affairs. We know, it's not hip to be white anymore and any non-white percentages may be used as victim points. But those victim points come at a great cost.


If you've ever had blood drawn they've probably already got your dna.
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Postby Nevertopia » Sun May 30, 2021 6:45 pm

Whats stopping White supremacists from realizing that their favourite color doesn't make them special? Why do they have to feel special about their favourite color? Why do they even think their favourite colour is special? What if white supremacists all turned green one day, does that mean everything they thought that made them special doesn't exist anymore? All because they arent the "right" colour?
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Postby Koletsia » Sun May 30, 2021 6:46 pm

Salus Maior wrote:If you've ever had blood drawn they've probably already got your dna.


No, because that is not the purpose of serological tests. The blood is disposed of afterwards. It is nonsense to suggest pathology labs are collecting the DNA from the samples they collect.

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Postby Nevertopia » Sun May 30, 2021 6:47 pm

Koletsia wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:If you've ever had blood drawn they've probably already got your dna.


No, because that is not the purpose of serological tests. The blood is disposed of afterwards. It is nonsense to suggest pathology labs are collecting the DNA from the samples they collect.

its also nonsense for white supremacists to think they dont have any "non-white" dna in them considering everyone on earth has a genetic relationship with sub-Saharan Africa and Ghengis Khan.
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Postby Koletsia » Sun May 30, 2021 6:48 pm

Nevertopia wrote:its also nonsense for white supremacists to think they dont have any "non-white" dna in them considering everyone on earth has a genetic relationship with sub-Saharan Africa and Ghengis Khan.


I agree.
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Postby Suriyanakhon » Sun May 30, 2021 6:48 pm

Koletsia wrote:
North Washington Republic wrote:More like “I’m afraid to find out that I’m not 100% white “


I don't care what colour my skin is, Washington. What I am concerned with, and believe others should be also, is the grotesque practice of genetic harvesting. To surrender the most fundamental essence of who you are physically simply in the hope that you are "1% Amerindian" or something, is a sad state of affairs. We know, it's not hip to be white anymore and any non-white percentages may be used as victim points. But those victim points come at a great cost.


No one does this lol. People just think it's neat to learn about their genetics. It's why family trees have been so fascinating for thousands of years.
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Postby Atheris » Sun May 30, 2021 6:48 pm

Nevertopia wrote:
Koletsia wrote:
No, because that is not the purpose of serological tests. The blood is disposed of afterwards. It is nonsense to suggest pathology labs are collecting the DNA from the samples they collect.

its also nonsense for white supremacists to think they dont have any "non-white" dna in them considering everyone on earth has a genetic relationship with sub-Saharan Africa and Ghengis Khan.

dont fuck with me my dad is genghis khan he can get you banned off xbox
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Postby North Washington Republic » Sun May 30, 2021 6:49 pm

Nevertopia wrote:
Koletsia wrote:
No, because that is not the purpose of serological tests. The blood is disposed of afterwards. It is nonsense to suggest pathology labs are collecting the DNA from the samples they collect.

its also nonsense for white supremacists to think they dont have any "non-white" dna in them considering everyone on earth has a genetic relationship with sub-Saharan Africa and Ghengis Khan.


quite honestly, a lot of younger white nationalist have a lot of self-loathing already. A DNA test proving that they’re not 100% white may be detrimental to their mental health
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Postby Nevertopia » Sun May 30, 2021 6:51 pm

Hypothetically speaking, if for some reason every white supremacist suddenly turned a shade of green, would they all suddenly stop having their beloved white supremacy? If everything superior about their movement is rooted on being their favourite color, would they then believe they're not supreme anymore? Or would they realize how arbitrary skin color is in determining an individual's character?
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Postby North Washington Republic » Sun May 30, 2021 6:53 pm

Suriyanakhon wrote:
Koletsia wrote:
I don't care what colour my skin is, Washington. What I am concerned with, and believe others should be also, is the grotesque practice of genetic harvesting. To surrender the most fundamental essence of who you are physically simply in the hope that you are "1% Amerindian" or something, is a sad state of affairs. We know, it's not hip to be white anymore and any non-white percentages may be used as victim points. But those victim points come at a great cost.


No one does this lol. People just think it's neat to learn about their genetics. It's why family trees have been so fascinating for thousands of years.


Yep, I got it done because me and my mother were curious. She bought it for my birthday. It turns out that I’m more mixed that I thought!
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