White Supremacy discussion thread

[Salus Maior]

Like the locals didn’t slaughter murder and rape the colonizers. It’s a harsh world, after all...

No, I’m not a national socialist but [part of message removed because rules TG me if you’d like to discuss this matter on discord]. As such, I do believe in the limited application of the rule of the strong.

It shouldn't be unexpected that invading forces would be resisted.

Social Darwinism is f tier ideology. Literal cave-man thinking.

[Hanunah]

by "and stuff" do you mean massacred, raped, tortured, and enslaved?

jesus christ, you're a regular goose-stepper aren't you?

Like the locals didn’t slaughter murder and rape the colonizers. It’s a harsh world, after all...

No, I’m not a national socialist but [part of message removed because rules TG me if you’d like to discuss this matter on discord]. As such, I do believe in the limited application of the rule of the strong.

Every single post is a bigger yikes than the last. No, I would not like to discuss your admiration for Tojo, Mussolini, King Leopold II, Andrew Jackson, or whichever colonizer you love, and I CERTAINLY don't want any of your views in my telegram box, thankyouverymuch

[Immortan Khan]

Scots are not Irish, and if the Irish living in America makes them colonizers, I'd argue that the Chinese who came here in 1880 were too.

This is either Khan becoming a leftist, or his Anti-Americanism and Anti-Irish sentiments coming out again. He's the one who thinks we're going to invade Canada.

I'm actually a pretty staunch right-winger. Also only the anti-American thing is kind of true but I mostly just exaggerate it for shits and giggles.

[The Reformed American Republic]

I don't know much about that situation so I can't comment. What I CAN say is that anyone who genuinely had a shot at the "American Dream" (which the irish CERTAINLY did) was a colonizer.

So then basically everyone who isn't black or native American is a colonizer.

Or Asians, as they're not "model Minorities" either,, and other non-whites who are victims. Yes, that's much of the modern left.

[Laka Strolistandiler]

Like the locals didn’t slaughter murder and rape the colonizers. It’s a harsh world, after all...

No, I’m not a national socialist but [part of message removed because rules TG me if you’d like to discuss this matter on discord]. As such, I do believe in the limited application of the rule of the strong.

It shouldn't be unexpected that invading forces would be resisted.

Social Darwinism is f tier ideology. Literal cave-man thinking.

I don’t support social Darwinism lol that’s a retarded ideology. I support that the more superior races and nations should guide the inferior ones to better future but not to enslave them or something.

[Suriyanakhon]

Like the locals didn’t slaughter murder and rape the colonizers. It’s a harsh world, after all...

No, I’m not a national socialist but [part of message removed because rules TG me if you’d like to discuss this matter on discord]. As such, I do believe in the limited application of the rule of the strong.

It shouldn't be unexpected that invading forces would be resisted.

Social Darwinism is f tier ideology. Literal cave-man thinking.

And it's one that Fascists always lose at, ironically.

[Immortan Khan]

I don't know much about that situation so I can't comment. What I CAN say is that anyone who genuinely had a shot at the "American Dream" (which the irish CERTAINLY did) was a colonizer.

So then basically everyone who isn't black or native American is a colonizer.

Actually basically only the indigenous people aren't colonizers.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Scots are not Irish, and if the Irish living in America makes them colonizers, I'd argue that the Chinese who came here in 1880 were too.

The Scots were one of the many groups living in Ireland. It is historical fact that the Scots originated in Ireland before migrating to what is now Scotland and becoming the dominant group.

They weren't though. That's the thing. The average person in 1910 did not see a bunch of Sicilians as white men. To quote the officer that pulled over Nick Vallelonga while he ferried a well known black pianist through the south, "oh that's why you're driving him. You're half a nigger yourself."

Except they were, that is why they had the rights and privileges of white people. You'll note that Nick Vallelonga wasn't forced, by law, to eat, sleep, shit, etc in different areas. He could also freely flirt with a white woman if he wanted to and his chances of being murdered would be far lower than that of any indigenous, black, or Asian man.

https://www.zocalopublicsquare.org/2018 ... eas/essay/

They weren't seen as white. Besides the fact that Southern Italians had to mark down that they were another race at Ellis Island, you keep mixing up the legal and social definition of white.

[The Reformed American Republic]

This is either Khan becoming a leftist, or his Anti-Americanism and Anti-Irish sentiments coming out again. He's the one who thinks we're going to invade Canada.

I'm actually a pretty staunch right-winger. Also only the anti-American thing is kind of true but I mostly just exaggerate it for shits and giggles.

I believe the latter statement, but not the former, unless you just want to look hip in front of the left.

[The Reformed American Republic]

It shouldn't be unexpected that invading forces would be resisted.

Social Darwinism is f tier ideology. Literal cave-man thinking.

I don’t support social Darwinism lol that’s a retarded ideology. I support that the more superior races and nations should guide the inferior ones to better future but not to enslave them or something.

Just leave them alone would be a better move.

[Salus Maior]

Let’s compare Rhodesia, which was essentially the last colonial state in Africa and Angola, a decolonized state. Who did better? Count in the fact that Rhodesia was essentially supported only by South Africa and that Angola was supported by literally half of communist world.

....You realize Rhodesia lost and lost hard, right?

Sure, Rhodesia had a pretty good k/d ratio, but so did America in the Vietnam war.

[Hanunah]

I don't know much about that situation so I can't comment. What I CAN say is that anyone who genuinely had a shot at the "American Dream" (which the irish CERTAINLY did) was a colonizer.

So then basically everyone who isn't black or native American is a colonizer.

Basically yes. Though Ive heard compelling arguments that many individual immigrants post-gilded age are colonized, but I haven't read enough on it.
https://readsettlers.org/ has a lot of good info

[Salus Maior]

It shouldn't be unexpected that invading forces would be resisted.

Social Darwinism is f tier ideology. Literal cave-man thinking.

I don’t support social Darwinism lol that’s a retarded ideology. I support that the more superior races and nations should guide the inferior ones to better future but not to enslave them or something.

That's Social Darwinism.

[Suriyanakhon]

Scots are not Irish, and if the Irish living in America makes them colonizers, I'd argue that the Chinese who came here in 1880 were too.

This is either Khan becoming a leftist, or his Anti-Americanism and Anti-Irish sentiments coming out again. He's the one who thinks we're going to invade Canada.

Can confirm, Khan personally stole the last potato my family owned, forcing us to move to America.

[Immortan Khan]

The Scots were one of the many groups living in Ireland. It is historical fact that the Scots originated in Ireland before migrating to what is now Scotland and becoming the dominant group. Except they were, that is why they had the rights and privileges of white people. You'll note that Nick Vallelonga wasn't forced, by law, to eat, sleep, shit, etc in different areas. He could also freely flirt with a white woman if he wanted to and his chances of being murdered would be far lower than that of any indigenous, black, or Asian man.

https://www.zocalopublicsquare.org/2018 ... eas/essay/

They weren't seen as white. Besides the fact that Southern Italians had to mark down that they were another race at Ellis Island, you keep mixing up the legal and social definition of white.

The legal is what allowed them to benefit from white supremacy. Once again, if we keep extending this then we'll basically just have to say only English-Americans have ever been fully white in America's history and ergo are the only ones to pin this on. Hence why I said it's an attempt to deflect the role of other ethnic groups within America's racial caste system over time.

[Hanunah]

So then basically everyone who isn't black or native American is a colonizer.

Actually basically only the indigenous people aren't colonizers.

No, not at all. Black people were a forcibly imported proletariat who labored so that settlers didn't have to. https://readsettlers.org/ has good info on this subject

[Borderlands of Rojava]

https://www.zocalopublicsquare.org/2018 ... eas/essay/

They weren't seen as white. Besides the fact that Southern Italians had to mark down that they were another race at Ellis Island, you keep mixing up the legal and social definition of white.

The legal is what allowed them to benefit from white supremacy. Once again, if we keep extending this then we'll basically just have to say only English-Americans have ever been fully white in America's history and ergo are the only ones to pin this on. Hence why I said it's an attempt to deflect the role of other ethnic groups within America's racial caste system over time.

So are the Arabs white then? Because on the census it says they are white and in crime data they are labeled as white.

[Laka Strolistandiler]

I don’t support social Darwinism lol that’s a retarded ideology. I support that the more superior races and nations should guide the inferior ones to better future but not to enslave them or something.

Just leave them alone would be a better move.

And not let them experience all the goods of the civilization? Let them continue fighting with spears and bows? I do believe that sometimes good things have to be pushed down one’s throat, even if they resist. Furthermore, I don’t believe in all honesty that mutually beneficial colonizer-colonized relationships are impossible.

[The Reformed American Republic]

This is either Khan becoming a leftist, or his Anti-Americanism and Anti-Irish sentiments coming out again. He's the one who thinks we're going to invade Canada.

Can confirm, Khan personally stole the last potato my family owned, forcing us to move to America.

Actually he claimed to be anti-Ireland in has signature previously, so this shitpost isn't as clever as you thought it was.

[Hanunah]

I support that the more superior races and nations should guide the inferior ones to better future but not to enslave them or something.

Oh god, here come the IQ charts

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Actually basically only the indigenous people aren't colonizers.

No, not at all. Black people were a forcibly imported proletariat who labored so that settlers didn't have to. https://readsettlers.org/ has good info on this subject

Settlers is a trash ass book that downplays everything poor white Americans have had to fight through in a sick game of victim Olympics. While some of the things written in it are true, it's still full of alot of shit.

[Laka Strolistandiler]

I don’t support social Darwinism lol that’s a retarded ideology. I support that the more superior races and nations should guide the inferior ones to better future but not to enslave them or something.

That's Social Darwinism.

No, social Darwinism believes that the superiors should thrive at the expense of the inferiors. My believes, I hope you understand, are nowhere near this. Mainly because religion.

[Immortan Khan]

I'm actually a pretty staunch right-winger. Also only the anti-American thing is kind of true but I mostly just exaggerate it for shits and giggles.

I believe the latter statement, but not the former, unless you just want to look hip in front of the left.

No, I'm being dead serious. I am very much a right-winger.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

I just want to point out here btw that the Finns were definitely not considered white at one point in America, but instead were seen as asiatic. They even went to court over their racial definition.

[The Reformed American Republic]

No, not at all. Black people were a forcibly imported proletariat who labored so that settlers didn't have to. https://readsettlers.org/ has good info on this subject

Settlers is a trash ass book that downplays everything poor white Americans have had to fight through in a sick game of victim Olympics. While some of the things written in it are true, it's still full of alot of shit.

It's Maoist third worldism. First-worlders are not proletariat, even if poor, support for the Khmer regime are other forms of crap they believe in. They're pretty hateful.