White Supremacy discussion thread

[Tsaivao]

Huh, the thread made it past page 2. Im surprised. Since it'll stick around a bit longer, ill given my take.

You have no right to support taking away the freedom, life and rights of other people. White supremacy is literally murder, and allowing them to talk about it in a completely open sense is stupid. Same goes for other forms of race supremacy as well. You cannot give freedom of speech to people who support taking away the rights of others who are innocent.

So when do we draw the line? For example, would you ban Black supremacy and nationalism? Because yes it is real. Do we now ban all people who support America from talking because America put Japanese people in camps, injected STDs into African Americans, and had made racist actions against minorities?

Interesting use of past tense in that last part, implying that the US doesn't still make "racist actions" against minorities.

You draw the line at that which oppresses people. Black nationalism/supremacy is a common superficiality to try and say "See, they're bad too!" when much of what is accused of being "supremacy" is often more striving for black equality. Does black nationalism exist? Sure. But are we going to try and insist that black supremacists are as bad as white supremacists when one literally wants to go back to enslaving the other? False equivalence, my my my!

And for the record, I support getting rid of overt patriotism anyway. America should confront its past instead of pretending it doesn't exist. So yes.

[Islamic Holy Sites]

Huh, the thread made it past page 2. Im surprised. Since it'll stick around a bit longer, ill given my take.

You have no right to support taking away the freedom, life and rights of other people. White supremacy is literally murder, and allowing them to talk about it in a completely open sense is stupid. Same goes for other forms of race supremacy as well. You cannot give freedom of speech to people who support taking away the rights of others who are innocent.

That would apply to a number of other ideologies and some religions then too, if consequently applied.

You mean Nazism, etc, right? And what about religions? What's wrong with most of them?

[Resetho]

White Supremacy is a simple thing. Black bad, Afrikaaners good. Mandela bad, Apartheid good. I am the ultimate white supremacist. (Don't be fooled by my factbook, it's for RP purposes only).

[The Federal Government of Iowa]

So when do we draw the line? For example, would you ban Black supremacy and nationalism? Because yes it is real. Do we now ban all people who support America from talking because America put Japanese people in camps, injected STDs into African Americans, and had made racist actions against minorities?

Interesting use of past tense in that last part, implying that the US doesn't still make "racist actions" against minorities.

You draw the line at that which oppresses people. Black nationalism/supremacy is a common superficiality to try and say "See, they're bad too!" when much of what is accused of being "supremacy" is often more striving for black equality. Does black nationalism exist? Sure. But are we going to try and insist that black supremacists are as bad as white supremacists when one literally wants to go back to enslaving the other? False equivalence, my my my!

And for the record, I support getting rid of overt patriotism anyway. America should confront its past instead of pretending it doesn't exist. So yes.

I am WELL aware of America's past, but I'm still a patriot. Yes yes, any (insert race here) supremacy is bad, duh. Condemn black supremacists as much as white supremacists.

[Nakena]

That would apply to a number of other ideologies and some religions then too, if consequently applied.

You mean Nazism, etc, right? And what about religions? What's wrong with most of them?

Thats a lot of stuff to unpack. Do you really want that, here, at page three, in this thread? Yes?

Also I'd be threadjacking. So, no.

[San Lumen]

White Supremacy is a simple thing. Black bad, Afrikaaners good. Mandela bad, Apartheid good. I am the ultimate white supremacist. (Don't be fooled by my factbook, it's for RP purposes only).

There is nothing special about being white. Everyone is equal regardless of skin color. I gather you have an issue with the US having Harris as Vice President or any city that has a non white mayor?

[Resetho]

White Supremacy is a simple thing. Black bad, Afrikaaners good. Mandela bad, Apartheid good. I am the ultimate white supremacist. (Don't be fooled by my factbook, it's for RP purposes only).

There is nothing special about being white. Everyone is equal regardless of skin color. I gather you have an issue with the US having Harris as Vice President or any city that has a non white mayor?

Bruh I was being sarcastic.

[Vorausen]

So when do we draw the line? For example, would you ban Black supremacy and nationalism? Because yes it is real. Do we now ban all people who support America from talking because America put Japanese people in camps, injected STDs into African Americans, and had made racist actions against minorities?

Interesting use of past tense in that last part, implying that the US doesn't still make "racist actions" against minorities.

You draw the line at that which oppresses people. Black nationalism/supremacy is a common superficiality to try and say "See, they're bad too!" when much of what is accused of being "supremacy" is often more striving for black equality. Does black nationalism exist? Sure. But are we going to try and insist that black supremacists are as bad as white supremacists when one literally wants to go back to enslaving the other? False equivalence, my my my!

And for the record, I support getting rid of overt patriotism anyway. America should confront its past instead of pretending it doesn't exist. So yes.

Like me ask you this, do you believe Black people can be racist?
I sure do, the whole idea of believing that Black people are immune from being racist therefore says that Black people are superior compared to white people. It is unconventional reverse racism. Tons of people I know use their race to play this victim when in reality your the same as everyone else. Yes, you may have some obvious obstacles, but let's work together and get through this together. Saying that black nationalism is quote "not as bad and racist as white nationalism" is a racist statement within itslef.

[The New California Republic]

So when do we draw the line? For example, would you ban Black supremacy and nationalism? Because yes it is real. Do we now ban all people who support America from talking because America put Japanese people in camps, injected STDs into African Americans, and had made racist actions against minorities?

Interesting use of past tense in that last part, implying that the US doesn't still make "racist actions" against minorities.

You draw the line at that which oppresses people. Black nationalism/supremacy is a common superficiality to try and say "See, they're bad too!" when much of what is accused of being "supremacy" is often more striving for black equality. Does black nationalism exist? Sure. But are we going to try and insist that black supremacists are as bad as white supremacists when one literally wants to go back to enslaving the other? False equivalence, my my my!

And for the record, I support getting rid of overt patriotism anyway. America should confront its past instead of pretending it doesn't exist. So yes.

Tbh he tried to say that Trans terrorism is going to be a thing in order to reverse the perpetrator/victim equation so that the transphobes don't seem as bad, so this same type of argument is really no surprise.

[San Lumen]

There is nothing special about being white. Everyone is equal regardless of skin color. I gather you have an issue with the US having Harris as Vice President or any city that has a non white mayor?

Bruh I was being sarcastic.

It didn't come off that way.

[Tsaivao]

#CentristMoment

You can't listen to them because they don't want to listen to you. If you do something as insane as insisting "the amount of melatonin in your skin doesn't determine the worth of your character" then they immediately close their ears. You HAVE to be close-minded to support white supremacy.

This thread's probably gonna be locked in like 5 seconds so get it all out while you can.

That logic is not gonna get you anywhere. The truth is most people won't listen to you, but it is still your utmost duty to respect them. Be the better and bigger person, because trust me, people can learn a lot from your actions and could break barriers and walls.

My guy, I have white supremacists in my family. They don't give a shit about me and my opinions. I've fought this battle probably hundreds of times. They don't want to listen to someone if it proves them wrong.

There aren't "good people on both sides", let's stop pretending that white supremacy is legitimate discourse and not just the raving lunacy that it actually is. You have to be completely delusional to be a white supremacist, and I lack the patience or caring to give them any sense of being correct in their beliefs. I compromise a lot for conservative beliefs, I still hold several conservative beliefs, but I will not tolerate intolerance.

If you want to be a good person, don't be a white supremacist. Simple.

[Vorausen]

Interesting use of past tense in that last part, implying that the US doesn't still make "racist actions" against minorities.

You draw the line at that which oppresses people. Black nationalism/supremacy is a common superficiality to try and say "See, they're bad too!" when much of what is accused of being "supremacy" is often more striving for black equality. Does black nationalism exist? Sure. But are we going to try and insist that black supremacists are as bad as white supremacists when one literally wants to go back to enslaving the other? False equivalence, my my my!

And for the record, I support getting rid of overt patriotism anyway. America should confront its past instead of pretending it doesn't exist. So yes.

I am WELL aware of America's past, but I'm still a patriot. Yes yes, any (insert race here) supremacy is bad, duh. Condemn black supremacists as much as white supremacists.

My point exactly, you hit it on the nail, supremacy is supremacy, period.

[Ifreann]

#CentristMoment

You can't listen to them because they don't want to listen to you. If you do something as insane as insisting "the amount of melatonin in your skin doesn't determine the worth of your character" then they immediately close their ears. You HAVE to be close-minded to support white supremacy.

This thread's probably gonna be locked in like 5 seconds so get it all out while you can.

That logic is not gonna get you anywhere. The truth is most people won't listen to you, but it is still your utmost duty to respect them. Be the better and bigger person, because trust me, people can learn a lot from your actions and could break barriers and walls.

Hmmm, no, I don't think I will bother to respect white supremacists.

[Vorausen]

Interesting use of past tense in that last part, implying that the US doesn't still make "racist actions" against minorities.

You draw the line at that which oppresses people. Black nationalism/supremacy is a common superficiality to try and say "See, they're bad too!" when much of what is accused of being "supremacy" is often more striving for black equality. Does black nationalism exist? Sure. But are we going to try and insist that black supremacists are as bad as white supremacists when one literally wants to go back to enslaving the other? False equivalence, my my my!

And for the record, I support getting rid of overt patriotism anyway. America should confront its past instead of pretending it doesn't exist. So yes.

Tbh he tried to say that Trans terrorism is going to be a thing in order to reverse the perpetrator/victim equation so that the transphobes don't seem as bad, so this same type of argument is really no surprise.

Never said transphobia was justified and also I am trying to move on and be more accepting of the transgender community (which has nothing to do with this conservation so let us move on please )

[Vorausen]

That logic is not gonna get you anywhere. The truth is most people won't listen to you, but it is still your utmost duty to respect them. Be the better and bigger person, because trust me, people can learn a lot from your actions and could break barriers and walls.

Hmmm, no, I don't think I will bother to respect white supremacists.

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Your choice, everybody sees white supremacy differently.

[The New California Republic]

Tbh he tried to say that Trans terrorism is going to be a thing in order to reverse the perpetrator/victim equation so that the transphobes don't seem as bad, so this same type of argument is really no surprise.

Never said transphobia was justified and also I am trying to move on and be more accepting of the transgender community (which has nothing to do with this conservation so let us move on please )

It has everything to do with it. You mentioned black supremacy in that post as well, and used the exact same type of reasoning that is being shown here, so it's entirely relevant.

[The Federal Government of Iowa]

That logic is not gonna get you anywhere. The truth is most people won't listen to you, but it is still your utmost duty to respect them. Be the better and bigger person, because trust me, people can learn a lot from your actions and could break barriers and walls.

Hmmm, no, I don't think I will bother to respect white supremacists.

That logic is not gonna get you anywhere. The truth is most people won't listen to you, but it is still your utmost duty to respect them. Be the better and bigger person, because trust me, people can learn a lot from your actions and could break barriers and walls.

My guy, I have white supremacists in my family. They don't give a shit about me and my opinions. I've fought this battle probably hundreds of times. They don't want to listen to someone if it proves them wrong.

There aren't "good people on both sides", let's stop pretending that white supremacy is legitimate discourse and not just the raving lunacy that it actually is. You have to be completely delusional to be a white supremacist, and I lack the patience or caring to give them any sense of being correct in their beliefs. I compromise a lot for conservative beliefs, I still hold several conservative beliefs, but I will not tolerate intolerance.

If you want to be a good person, don't be a white supremacist. Simple.

Yes yes, dehumanize white supremacists, makes it really easy to kill them or other things. I'm not saying that their ideology is any good, it isn't, but perpetrating violence against them is merely stooping down to their level. Minds are changed by kindness and persistent nudges towards the right direction.

[Islamic Holy Sites]

That logic is not gonna get you anywhere. The truth is most people won't listen to you, but it is still your utmost duty to respect them. Be the better and bigger person, because trust me, people can learn a lot from your actions and could break barriers and walls.

My guy, I have white supremacists in my family. They don't give a shit about me and my opinions. I've fought this battle probably hundreds of times. They don't want to listen to someone if it proves them wrong.

There aren't "good people on both sides", let's stop pretending that white supremacy is legitimate discourse and not just the raving lunacy that it actually is. You have to be completely delusional to be a white supremacist, and I lack the patience or caring to give them any sense of being correct in their beliefs. I compromise a lot for conservative beliefs, I still hold several conservative beliefs, but I will not tolerate intolerance.

If you want to be a good person, don't be a white supremacist. Simple.

Good people on both sides? How can you be a good person whilst saying 'Yo, we should enslave that guy over there!' 'Why?' 'Coz he's black, that's why.'

[Vorausen]

Never said transphobia was justified and also I am trying to move on and be more accepting of the transgender community (which has nothing to do with this conservation so let us move on please )

It has everything to do with it. You mentioned black supremacy in that post as well, and used the exact same type of reasoning that is being shown here, so it's entirely relevant.

Well still, I mentioned that I am trying to move on and be more accepting. Yes, it doesn't mean that "everything is fixed" rather I'm trying to change and be less transphobic.

[Tsaivao]

Interesting use of past tense in that last part, implying that the US doesn't still make "racist actions" against minorities.

You draw the line at that which oppresses people. Black nationalism/supremacy is a common superficiality to try and say "See, they're bad too!" when much of what is accused of being "supremacy" is often more striving for black equality. Does black nationalism exist? Sure. But are we going to try and insist that black supremacists are as bad as white supremacists when one literally wants to go back to enslaving the other? False equivalence, my my my!

And for the record, I support getting rid of overt patriotism anyway. America should confront its past instead of pretending it doesn't exist. So yes.

I am WELL aware of America's past, but I'm still a patriot. Yes yes, any (insert race here) supremacy is bad, duh. Condemn black supremacists as much as white supremacists.

Battle of Blair Mountain is a fun read, if you want a good example of America doing something really awful.

I should clarify that it's fine to be patriotic and like the country you live in, but you shouldn't deflect criticism of the nation under the guise of patriotism, nor should you ignore the very many many things that the United States has done. (And before anyone says something like "WHAT ABOUT IRAN" or China or Russia or some shit, I criticize them too. It's possible to dislike multiple regimes)

I will say, again, that what most people accuse of "black supremacy" is just so that they can try and paint the other side as hypocritical, when in actuality it's just the other side trying to paint them as hypocritical. I can with utmost certainty say that white nationalism is worse than black nationalism, because white nationalism enslaved millions for hundreds of years, and black nationalism barely exists.

[The New California Republic]

Hmmm, no, I don't think I will bother to respect white supremacists.

My guy, I have white supremacists in my family. They don't give a shit about me and my opinions. I've fought this battle probably hundreds of times. They don't want to listen to someone if it proves them wrong.

There aren't "good people on both sides", let's stop pretending that white supremacy is legitimate discourse and not just the raving lunacy that it actually is. You have to be completely delusional to be a white supremacist, and I lack the patience or caring to give them any sense of being correct in their beliefs. I compromise a lot for conservative beliefs, I still hold several conservative beliefs, but I will not tolerate intolerance.

If you want to be a good person, don't be a white supremacist. Simple.

Yes yes, dehumanize white supremacists, makes it really easy to kill them or other things.

What a strawman, nobody is dehumanising anyone in those posts you quoted.

[The Federal Government of Iowa]

I am WELL aware of America's past, but I'm still a patriot. Yes yes, any (insert race here) supremacy is bad, duh. Condemn black supremacists as much as white supremacists.

Battle of Blair Mountain is a fun read, if you want a good example of America doing something really awful.

I should clarify that it's fine to be patriotic and like the country you live in, but you shouldn't deflect criticism of the nation under the guise of patriotism, nor should you ignore the very many many things that the United States has done. (And before anyone says something like "WHAT ABOUT IRAN" or China or Russia or some shit, I criticize them too. It's possible to dislike multiple regimes)

I will say, again, that what most people accuse of "black supremacy" is just so that they can try and paint the other side as hypocritical, when in actuality it's just the other side trying to paint them as hypocritical. I can with utmost certainty say that white nationalism is worse than black nationalism, because white nationalism enslaved millions for hundreds of years, and black nationalism barely exists.

I see

[Nakena]

I will say, again, that what most people accuse of "black supremacy" is just so that they can try and paint the other side as hypocritical, when in actuality it's just the other side trying to paint them as hypocritical. I can with utmost certainty say that white nationalism is worse than black nationalism, because white nationalism enslaved millions for hundreds of years, and black nationalism barely exists.

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[Uan aa Boa]

Freedom is speech is based on an assumption of equality, so white supremacists inherently reject the basis of democratic discussion. Letting them join in that discussion is like continuing to play chess with someone who keeps knocking the board over.

[Vorausen]

I am WELL aware of America's past, but I'm still a patriot. Yes yes, any (insert race here) supremacy is bad, duh. Condemn black supremacists as much as white supremacists.

Battle of Blair Mountain is a fun read, if you want a good example of America doing something really awful.

I should clarify that it's fine to be patriotic and like the country you live in, but you shouldn't deflect criticism of the nation under the guise of patriotism, nor should you ignore the very many many things that the United States has done. (And before anyone says something like "WHAT ABOUT IRAN" or China or Russia or some shit, I criticize them too. It's possible to dislike multiple regimes)

I will say, again, that what most people accuse of "black supremacy" is just so that they can try and paint the other side as hypocritical, when in actuality it's just the other side trying to paint them as hypocritical. I can with utmost certainty say that white nationalism is worse than black nationalism, because white nationalism enslaved millions for hundreds of years, and black nationalism barely exists.

Barely exists? Many ideas of Black Nationalism have become part of mainstream culture. Look around you.