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Do you think white supermascists should be able to express their views?

Yes
529
40%
No
484
37%
Depends
283
21%
Other
25
2%
 
Total votes : 1321

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Nanatsu no Tsuki
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:29 am

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:These are some of the billboards I saw. The only one still up, as of December 2020, is the White radio one.

Note: if this can make you uncomfortable, don’t look.

https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2014/0 ... c86ef2.jpg
https://d1i4t8bqe7zgj6.cloudfront.net/0 ... scaled.jpg
https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/a ... kansas.jpg
https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-stati ... -pos-x=167

I'm desensitized, because I have seen so much worse on the internet, and even on this very site before the mods cleaned it up.


I understand. But I’m not because I saw those signs myself and it wasn’t a good experience. I’m from Spain, and those signs left me rattled and dare I say a tad culturally shocked to see racism so alive and well in the US.

This is not to exime my own country from its myriad issues, of which racism is one of them. But I never saw billboards like that back home and it was jarring.
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Postby Nakena » Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:40 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:These are some of the billboards I saw. The only one still up, as of December 2020, is the White radio one.

Note: if this can make you uncomfortable, don’t look.

https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2014/0 ... c86ef2.jpg
https://d1i4t8bqe7zgj6.cloudfront.net/0 ... scaled.jpg
https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/a ... kansas.jpg
https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-stati ... -pos-x=167


Looks like theres probably some dudes - or more likely one - who keeps putting on those from time to time. Given that it dates back to 2014.

Birchland and the NAF wrote:I got PTSD.


I recommand you to watch this video, by this sweet girl and heed her advice.

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Nanatsu no Tsuki
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:43 am

Nakena wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:These are some of the billboards I saw. The only one still up, as of December 2020, is the White radio one.

Note: if this can make you uncomfortable, don’t look.

https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2014/0 ... c86ef2.jpg
https://d1i4t8bqe7zgj6.cloudfront.net/0 ... scaled.jpg
https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/a ... kansas.jpg
https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-stati ... -pos-x=167


Looks like theres probably some dudes - or more likely one - who keeps putting on those from time to time. Given that it dates back to 2014.

Birchland and the NAF wrote:I got PTSD.


I recommand you to watch this video, by this sweet girl and heed her advice.


The town has been on a mission to take them down, those billboards. IIRC, in an effort to boost tourism and bring businesses to the area.
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The Reformed American Republic
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:51 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:I'm desensitized, because I have seen so much worse on the internet, and even on this very site before the mods cleaned it up.


I understand. But I’m not because I saw those signs myself and it wasn’t a good experience. I’m from Spain, and those signs left me rattled and dare I say a tad culturally shocked to see racism so alive and well in the US.

This is not to exime my own country from its myriad issues, of which racism is one of them. But I never saw billboards like that back home and it was jarring.

I doubt racism is a problem in Spain, unless one is crying racism due to lack of equality of outcome.
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Nanatsu no Tsuki
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:55 am

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
I understand. But I’m not because I saw those signs myself and it wasn’t a good experience. I’m from Spain, and those signs left me rattled and dare I say a tad culturally shocked to see racism so alive and well in the US.

This is not to exime my own country from its myriad issues, of which racism is one of them. But I never saw billboards like that back home and it was jarring.

I doubt racism is a problem in Spain, unless one is crying racism due to lack of equality of outcome.


I wish you were right but no, racism is a problem in Spain: https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reu ... SKBN29U228

It has historical roots that go way back: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_Spain
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Kowani
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Postby Kowani » Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:11 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Kowani wrote:SNIP


So really, the dichotomy of economic anxiety vs racial resentment is a false one when describing motivations for Trump votes, because the economic anxiety is racialized and the racial resentment is heavily driven by economics?

Among other things, yes
Nakena wrote:
Kowani wrote:-snip-


Thank you, for your poast. It was an very interesting read.

I do my best to provide interesting posts :p

I wanted to go into how unions are a great tool to reduce that trend, but I ran out of space ;-;
I actually went over the character limit and had to snip things

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The Reformed American Republic wrote:Indeed. I would say the outright Nazis are still fringe. They thought Trump would make them tolerable to the mainstream, but he did not. Things would have to really go bad for there to be an outright Nazi takeover here.


Yes, that is why Charlottesville did fail so much on them. Nobody wants to be associated with that fringe.

This is true tho, the horrible PR around outright Nazis is their biggest obstacle-and Charlottesville did not help

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Looks like theres probably some dudes - or more likely one - who keeps putting on those from time to time. Given that it dates back to 2014.



I recommand you to watch this video, by this sweet girl and heed her advice.


The town has been on a mission to take them down, those billboards. IIRC, in an effort to boost tourism and bring businesses to the area.

Ooof
Imagine growing up in that town and knowing that’s what you were known for
No wonder people want them gone-
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Postby Nakena » Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:17 am

Kowani wrote:I wanted to go into how unions are a great tool to reduce that trend, but I ran out of space ;-;
I actually went over the character limit and had to snip things


Just let's admit the facts. Your posts have grown too big and powerful for NSG. Your content has escaped the very limitations this place has to offer. You have to ascend to a higher place of poasting. Maybe some kind of magazine or news sauce or such.

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The Reformed American Republic
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:19 am

Nakena wrote:
Kowani wrote:I wanted to go into how unions are a great tool to reduce that trend, but I ran out of space ;-;
I actually went over the character limit and had to snip things


Just let's admit the facts. Your posts have grown too big and powerful for NSG. Your content has escaped the very limitations this place has to offer. You have to ascend to a higher place of poasting. Maybe some kind of magazine or news sauce or such.

He is a good researcher, that is true.
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Borderlands of Rojava
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:24 am

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
I understand. But I’m not because I saw those signs myself and it wasn’t a good experience. I’m from Spain, and those signs left me rattled and dare I say a tad culturally shocked to see racism so alive and well in the US.

This is not to exime my own country from its myriad issues, of which racism is one of them. But I never saw billboards like that back home and it was jarring.

I doubt racism is a problem in Spain, unless one is crying racism due to lack of equality of outcome.


TRAR, racism is a problem almost everywhere. Some places have it worse than others, but if you take out a globe and point at the first random country you see, I guarantee you there's racists there. Spain definitely has racism against the Roma and against black folks. They're also not fond of Latin American immigrants. It's not all easy living there.
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Postby Kowani » Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:25 am

Nakena wrote:
Kowani wrote:I wanted to go into how unions are a great tool to reduce that trend, but I ran out of space ;-;
I actually went over the character limit and had to snip things


Just let's admit the facts. Your posts have grown too big and powerful for NSG. Your content has escaped the very limitations this place has to offer. You have to ascend to a higher place of poasting. Maybe some kind of magazine or news sauce or such.

I've actually been looking into that :p
I do like it here, but there are...both technical and cultural limitations on what I can do
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Postby Fahran » Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:55 am

Kowani wrote:I've actually been looking into that :p
I do like it here, but there are...both technical and cultural limitations on what I can do

Some of these posts have enough quality to be published in all honesty, providing you do some spell-checking, grammatical correction, and formatting to make them look pretty.

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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:06 pm

Kowani wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Just let's admit the facts. Your posts have grown too big and powerful for NSG. Your content has escaped the very limitations this place has to offer. You have to ascend to a higher place of poasting. Maybe some kind of magazine or news sauce or such.

I've actually been looking into that :p
I do like it here, but there are...both technical and cultural limitations on what I can do

You would be a really good journalist
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Kowani
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Postby Kowani » Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:10 pm

Fahran wrote:
Kowani wrote:I've actually been looking into that :p
I do like it here, but there are...both technical and cultural limitations on what I can do

Some of these posts have enough quality to be published in all honesty, providing you do some spell-checking, grammatical correction, and formatting to make them look pretty.

bleghhhhhhhhhhhhh, grammar

Alcala-Cordel wrote:
Kowani wrote:I've actually been looking into that :p
I do like it here, but there are...both technical and cultural limitations on what I can do

You would be a really goo journalist

okay there's a different problem there
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Postby Kubra » Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:12 pm

Oh boy are we meddling in Kowani's life?
Have you considered college radio? It's really just a hobby, but the barriers to entry are low and let me tell ya, there's skill overlap.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:57 pm

Kowani wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
So really, the dichotomy of economic anxiety vs racial resentment is a false one when describing motivations for Trump votes, because the economic anxiety is racialized and the racial resentment is heavily driven by economics?

Among other things, yes
Nakena wrote:
Thank you, for your poast. It was an very interesting read.

I do my best to provide interesting posts :p

I wanted to go into how unions are a great tool to reduce that trend, but I ran out of space ;-;
I actually went over the character limit and had to snip things

Nakena wrote:
Yes, that is why Charlottesville did fail so much on them. Nobody wants to be associated with that fringe.

This is true tho, the horrible PR around outright Nazis is their biggest obstacle-and Charlottesville did not help

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
The town has been on a mission to take them down, those billboards. IIRC, in an effort to boost tourism and bring businesses to the area.

Ooof
Imagine growing up in that town and knowing that’s what you were known for
No wonder people want them gone-


Absolutely. But this also stems from the systematic elimination of African Americans in the area in the early 20th century. In fact, there were a number of horrible lynchings, bringing the FBI in and arresting half the town council and police for covering up. There are articles about it but most are behind paywalls. If you’re interested in the subject, Google some.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:57 pm

Kubra wrote:Oh boy are we meddling in Kowani's life?
Have you considered college radio? It's really just a hobby, but the barriers to entry are low and let me tell ya, there's skill overlap.


radio is a dying medium
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Postby Kubra » Fri Apr 30, 2021 1:02 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:
Kubra wrote:Oh boy are we meddling in Kowani's life?
Have you considered college radio? It's really just a hobby, but the barriers to entry are low and let me tell ya, there's skill overlap.


radio is a dying medium
So long as there are bored drivers there are radio listeners
I like to tune in the local college station and play "guess what language they're speaking".
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Postby Lady Victory » Fri Apr 30, 2021 1:13 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:
Kubra wrote:Oh boy are we meddling in Kowani's life?
Have you considered college radio? It's really just a hobby, but the barriers to entry are low and let me tell ya, there's skill overlap.


radio is a dying medium


I fucking wish lmao.
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Postby Salus Maior » Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:38 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:
Kubra wrote:Oh boy are we meddling in Kowani's life?
Have you considered college radio? It's really just a hobby, but the barriers to entry are low and let me tell ya, there's skill overlap.


radio is a dying medium


Podcasts are pretty dang popular my guy
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Postby Fansania » Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:26 pm

Lady Victory wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
radio is a dying medium


I fucking wish lmao.

You hate on radio? Why?

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Postby East Blepia » Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:29 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:all white people are racist and racism is hateful so just ban all white people from talking


Said very few people, and the people who did say it are irrelevant fuckheads.

Nobody here is anti white Bear (in this thread at least. There are a couple anti white posters on this site although one of them got outted later as a false flag).


Borderlands of Rojava wrote:I frankly now want to end whiteness more than ever. Not through violence, but through abolishing the concept and then mixing everyone together till race segregation is long forgotten.
20 years in Iraq and Afghanistan, 10 years in Syria, constant brinksmanship with Iran, $230 billion[1] and counting in military and economic aid to a first-world country, and the agitation of Islamic extremism[2] causing tens of thousands of civilian deaths is not enough. America MUST do more for Israel. If you ask what we get in exchange, you are an anti-semite.

1. https://fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL33222.pdf "As of March 2020, in 2018 U.S. dollars (inflation-adjusted), total U.S.
aid to Israel... is $236 billion."

2. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/nov/24/theobserver "Why are we fighting and opposing you? The answer is very simple...You attacked us in Palestine...the degree of American support for Israel"

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:30 pm

East Blepia wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Said very few people, and the people who did say it are irrelevant fuckheads.

Nobody here is anti white Bear (in this thread at least. There are a couple anti white posters on this site although one of them got outted later as a false flag).


Borderlands of Rojava wrote:I frankly now want to end whiteness more than ever. Not through violence, but through abolishing the concept and then mixing everyone together till race segregation is long forgotten.


Even through a text format that is clearly not serious.
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Postby East Blepia » Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:31 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Even through a text format that is clearly not serious.

Do what?
20 years in Iraq and Afghanistan, 10 years in Syria, constant brinksmanship with Iran, $230 billion[1] and counting in military and economic aid to a first-world country, and the agitation of Islamic extremism[2] causing tens of thousands of civilian deaths is not enough. America MUST do more for Israel. If you ask what we get in exchange, you are an anti-semite.

1. https://fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL33222.pdf "As of March 2020, in 2018 U.S. dollars (inflation-adjusted), total U.S.
aid to Israel... is $236 billion."

2. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/nov/24/theobserver "Why are we fighting and opposing you? The answer is very simple...You attacked us in Palestine...the degree of American support for Israel"

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:33 pm

East Blepia wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Even through a text format that is clearly not serious.

Do what?


You think you pulled a gotcha on Rojava. You didn't, because he was clearly being sarcastic as fuck in the post you quoted. Like, even through text it's really obvious he wasn't serious.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:34 pm

East Blepia wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Even through a text format that is clearly not serious.

Do what?

Rojava was obviously joking. He ain't one of those extreme wokeists.
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