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Do you think white supermascists should be able to express their views?

Yes
529
40%
No
484
37%
Depends
283
21%
Other
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Total votes : 1321

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Uiiop
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Founded: Jun 20, 2012
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Uiiop » Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:21 pm

North Washington Republic wrote:
Nakena wrote:
I mean he said earlier he's just 18. It's not too uncommon to hate the whole world around that age tbh or simply being in an existential dread phase.


When I was 18, I hated the world as well. I was a insufferable little shit back that. I was surprised anyone was friends with me.

Wat.

That's like the exact opposite of the problem with the use of the term "Rape" that I've been hearing.
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Conservative Republic Of Huang
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Postby Conservative Republic Of Huang » Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:22 pm

Uiiop wrote:
North Washington Republic wrote:
When I was 18, I hated the world as well. I was a insufferable little shit back that. I was surprised anyone was friends with me.

Wat.

That's like the exact opposite of the problem with the use of the term "Rape" that I've been hearing.

I mean as in "x is raping female identity" or "raping our speech" which I think devalues the actual physical act.
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Uiiop
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Postby Uiiop » Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:23 pm

Conservative Republic Of Huang wrote:
Uiiop wrote:Wat.

That's like the exact opposite of the problem with the use of the term "Rape" that I've been hearing.

I mean as in "x is raping female identity" or "raping our speech" which I think devalues the actual physical act.

When you put it like that makes sense people would say something like that but talk about inconsistency.
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Fahran
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Founded: Nov 13, 2017
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Postby Fahran » Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:24 pm

North Washington Republic wrote:I agree. White nationalists don’t like people like you and I. You’re Jewish and I’m mixed race. But what I don’t understand is that they get confused when they dealt the same shit they give out.

Amusingly enough, white nationalist rhetoric often feels like a parody of the worst kind of critical race or intersectional feminist rhetoric - and there are more quality arguments to be made by both "left-wing" groups than the ones I'm presently referencing. Some group that simultaneously possesses power and has deep-rooted fragility/weakness has established a hierarchal structure that disadvantages another group or other groups and is in the process of oppressing, degrading, and weakening them.

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Senkaku
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Postby Senkaku » Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:25 pm

Nakena wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
But go so far as to preach annihilation?


I mean he said earlier he's just 18. It's not too uncommon to hate the whole world around that age tbh or simply being in an existential dread phase.

actually I think it is, existential dread is one thing but yearning for billions of people to be burned/smashed/irradiated to death I think is probably more than a few standard deviations away from that
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Senkaku
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Postby Senkaku » Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:27 pm

Birchland and the Northern Armed Front wrote:
North Washington Republic wrote:
I agree. White nationalists don’t like people like you and I. You’re Jewish and I’m mixed race. But what I don’t understand is that they get confused when they dealt the same shit they give out.

When have I been dealt the same shit I give out? And if you did say you wanted to nuke me, d’you think I’d really care? I’m not an egotistical person at all, so personal insults are a waste of time. I preach annihilation of urban life and it’s hundreds of millions of inhabitants as I find it disgusting, perverse, unnatural and destructive. It would fix global warming the right way. Fuck electric cars, the system just wants you to use them so they can have all the crude oil for themselves.

I've met whitenats, and I've met anprims, but I don't think I've ever encountered a whitenat anprim
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Fahran
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Postby Fahran » Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:28 pm

Conservative Republic Of Huang wrote:I mean as in "x is raping female identity" or "raping our speech" which I think devalues the actual physical act.

My issue with how rape is defined at an institutional level is that it excludes men who are forced to engage in sex. Both the RAINN Institute and many local law enforcement agencies use this definition, which is the result both of patriarchy perservering when it comes to how we perceive and interact with men and with feminism explicitly setting out to tackle sexual violence as a women's issue and defining it accordingly. It's affected our discourse, even without malice necessarily being involved. Men remain agents. Women remain objects, so much so that we can seldom be rapists.
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Neu California
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Postby Neu California » Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:29 pm

Birchland and the Northern Armed Front wrote:
North Washington Republic wrote:
You’re literally complaining about being told “I bet you’re not a 10” after saying you think Central Americans are unattractive and that you don’t want to hang around on attractive people. I think you have a highly exaggerated opinion of yourself like most white nationalist do.

:rofl: Just realized your signature says “wear a mask.” :rofl:

What's so funny about that?
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North Washington Republic
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Postby North Washington Republic » Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:29 pm

Birchland and the Northern Armed Front wrote:
North Washington Republic wrote:
You’re literally complaining about being told “I bet you’re not a 10” after saying you think Central Americans are unattractive and that you don’t want to hang around on attractive people. I think you have a highly exaggerated opinion of yourself like most white nationalist do.

:rofl: Just realized your signature says “wear a mask.” :rofl:


Of course, because I’m a “sheep” that listen to doctors rather than people that have no medical degree and trip on DMT.
I’m a Wesleyan Christian center-left American Patriot. 29 year-old male and I live in Minneapolis, Minnesota
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Senkaku
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Postby Senkaku » Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:29 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
But go so far as to preach annihilation?


It's actually not a terribly uncommon theme amongst extreme environmental circles. I've encountered more than a few people who believe the majority of the human species need to be culled to get things under control and prevent total biosphere collapse.

environmentalists who want to destroy humanity to save the biosphere strike me as people who have reeeeally lost track of their priorities
Biden-Santos Thought cadre

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Conservative Republic Of Huang
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Ex-Nation

Postby Conservative Republic Of Huang » Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:30 pm

Gone right before our eyes. Shame.
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Pro: Direct democracy, e-democracy, parliamentary sovereignty, state secularism, non-violent direct action (striking), police reform, syndicalism, democratic workplace management
Anti: Most types of representative democracy, ultra-nationalism, imperialism, autocratic workplace management, the state

"In the name of the greatest people that have ever trod this earth, I draw the line in the dust and toss the gauntlet before the feet of tyranny, and I say syndicalism now, syndicalism tomorrow, syndicalism forever."
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Fahran
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Postby Fahran » Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:31 pm

Senkaku wrote:environmentalists who want to destroy humanity to save the biosphere strike me as people who have reeeeally lost track of their priorities

Nonsense. We just read Ishmael by Daniel Quinn in high school. :p

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North Washington Republic
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Postby North Washington Republic » Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:31 pm

Neu California wrote:
Birchland and the Northern Armed Front wrote: :rofl: Just realized your signature says “wear a mask.” :rofl:

What's so funny about that?


He thinks that people that wear masks are “sheep” because...eh...I don’t even care enough to get into it. I’m just glad that I’m vaccinated and I wear a mask. I just laugh at people like Birchland because that’s all one can do.
I’m a Wesleyan Christian center-left American Patriot. 29 year-old male and I live in Minneapolis, Minnesota
Pro: Jesus, The Holy Bible, Constitutional Republic, representative democracy, efficient and comprehensive welfare state, neoconservatism, civic nationalism, cannabis legalization, $15 an hour min.wage, religious liberty, LGBTQIA rights, Law & Order, police, death penalty, sensible reform of law enforcement, racial equity, peace through strength, NATO, EU
Anti: Satan, sin, anarchism, paleoconservatism, communism, libertarianism, fascism, ACAB, racism, populism, Trump(ism), Qanon, Putin, Xi, Taliban.
Economic Left/Right: -0.75. Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.67
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GET VACCINATED ASAP AND WEAR A MASK!!!

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Nanatsu no Tsuki
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:31 pm

Conservative Republic Of Huang wrote:Gone right before our eyes. Shame.


What is?
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Conservative Republic Of Huang
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Ex-Nation

Postby Conservative Republic Of Huang » Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:32 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Conservative Republic Of Huang wrote:Gone right before our eyes. Shame.


What is?

The posadist-anarchist-primitivist-nationalist-enviromentalist.
Pro: Direct democracy, e-democracy, parliamentary sovereignty, state secularism, non-violent direct action (striking), police reform, syndicalism, democratic workplace management
Anti: Most types of representative democracy, ultra-nationalism, imperialism, autocratic workplace management, the state

"In the name of the greatest people that have ever trod this earth, I draw the line in the dust and toss the gauntlet before the feet of tyranny, and I say syndicalism now, syndicalism tomorrow, syndicalism forever."
not conservative or a republic
Transparency

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Fahran
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Fahran » Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:33 pm

Conservative Republic Of Huang wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
What is?

The posadist-anarchist-primitivist-nationalist-enviromentalist.

Sometimes I want to go eco fash for the memes.

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Nanatsu no Tsuki
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:33 pm

Conservative Republic Of Huang wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
What is?

The posadist-anarchist-primitivist-nationalist-enviromentalist.


There we go with the mouthful ideological identification that gives me a headache (not you). :?
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Odreria
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Postby Odreria » Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:33 pm

North Washington Republic wrote:
Neu California wrote:What's so funny about that?


I’m vaccinated and I wear a mask.

lmfao
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North Washington Republic
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Postby North Washington Republic » Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:34 pm

Fahran wrote:
North Washington Republic wrote:I agree. White nationalists don’t like people like you and I. You’re Jewish and I’m mixed race. But what I don’t understand is that they get confused when they dealt the same shit they give out.

Amusingly enough, white nationalist rhetoric often feels like a parody of the worst kind of critical race or intersectional feminist rhetoric - and there are more quality arguments to be made by both "left-wing" groups than the ones I'm presently referencing. Some group that simultaneously possesses power and has deep-rooted fragility/weakness has established a hierarchal structure that disadvantages another group or other groups and is in the process of oppressing, degrading, and weakening them.


Horseshoe anyone?
I’m a Wesleyan Christian center-left American Patriot. 29 year-old male and I live in Minneapolis, Minnesota
Pro: Jesus, The Holy Bible, Constitutional Republic, representative democracy, efficient and comprehensive welfare state, neoconservatism, civic nationalism, cannabis legalization, $15 an hour min.wage, religious liberty, LGBTQIA rights, Law & Order, police, death penalty, sensible reform of law enforcement, racial equity, peace through strength, NATO, EU
Anti: Satan, sin, anarchism, paleoconservatism, communism, libertarianism, fascism, ACAB, racism, populism, Trump(ism), Qanon, Putin, Xi, Taliban.
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North Washington Republic
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Postby North Washington Republic » Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:34 pm

Odreria wrote:
North Washington Republic wrote:
I’m vaccinated and I wear a mask.

lmfao


Hope you don’t wind up on a ventilator. ;)
I’m a Wesleyan Christian center-left American Patriot. 29 year-old male and I live in Minneapolis, Minnesota
Pro: Jesus, The Holy Bible, Constitutional Republic, representative democracy, efficient and comprehensive welfare state, neoconservatism, civic nationalism, cannabis legalization, $15 an hour min.wage, religious liberty, LGBTQIA rights, Law & Order, police, death penalty, sensible reform of law enforcement, racial equity, peace through strength, NATO, EU
Anti: Satan, sin, anarchism, paleoconservatism, communism, libertarianism, fascism, ACAB, racism, populism, Trump(ism), Qanon, Putin, Xi, Taliban.
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Odreria
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Postby Odreria » Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:36 pm

North Washington Republic wrote:
Odreria wrote:lmfao


Hope you don’t wind up on a ventilator. ;)

the vaccine gives 100% protection against hospitalization, so please stop spreading dangerous misinformation. You are killing thousands of people.
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North Washington Republic
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Postby North Washington Republic » Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:37 pm

Odreria wrote:
North Washington Republic wrote:
Hope you don’t wind up on a ventilator. ;)

the vaccine gives 100% protection against hospitalization, so please stop spreading dangerous misinformation. You are killing thousands of people.


I’m going to go with what the CDC recommends over what you recommend. ;)
I’m a Wesleyan Christian center-left American Patriot. 29 year-old male and I live in Minneapolis, Minnesota
Pro: Jesus, The Holy Bible, Constitutional Republic, representative democracy, efficient and comprehensive welfare state, neoconservatism, civic nationalism, cannabis legalization, $15 an hour min.wage, religious liberty, LGBTQIA rights, Law & Order, police, death penalty, sensible reform of law enforcement, racial equity, peace through strength, NATO, EU
Anti: Satan, sin, anarchism, paleoconservatism, communism, libertarianism, fascism, ACAB, racism, populism, Trump(ism), Qanon, Putin, Xi, Taliban.
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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:38 pm

North Washington Republic wrote:
Odreria wrote:the vaccine gives 100% protection against hospitalization, so please stop spreading dangerous misinformation. You are killing thousands of people.


I’m going to go with what the CDC recommends over what you recommend. ;)


If the vaccine doesn;t prevent hospitalization its completely pointless.

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Nanatsu no Tsuki
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:39 pm

North Washington Republic wrote:
Odreria wrote:the vaccine gives 100% protection against hospitalization, so please stop spreading dangerous misinformation. You are killing thousands of people.


I’m going to go with what the CDC recommends over what you recommend. ;)


On a joke note: I like masks for one particular reason. People can’t see the faces I make when they say stuff that annoys me. I also don’t have to force myself to smile.
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Birchland and the NAF
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Postby Birchland and the NAF » Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:39 pm

Really mods? I was trying to debate honestly without trolling.
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