White Supremacy discussion thread

[Kowani]

cant we all just agree that white supremacy is bad and end the thread already?

You know what. I'm tempted to play Devil's advocate simply to give NSG more work to do flexing their intellectual muscles.

i've already written three effortposts in this thread tho ;-;

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Yes, capitalism. Can't really blame Jews for being powerful given the massive head start Christians gave them when it came to things like banking.

By your logic then, White Supremacy in the American system should be re-codified and defended. It never ceases to amaze me what good little stooges of Neoliberalism and Social Darwinism people become when you bring up the Jewish Question.

I didn't know there was a ban on Christians becoming bankers. Why did nobody tell me about this?

[Borderlands of Rojava]

First off Im pretty sure I answered that second question. The answer is yes, systemic bias still exists in American law enforcement and governance.

You didn't until now, but you're free to use the quote function to prove otherwise. As it were, however, I'll point out what I just said to the other user:

55 of the top political donors in 2020 were Jewish, 40% of Biden's cabinet is Jewish; I don't have the statistics for Trump's but, if we're being honest, it was the same or probably even higher with only turnover obscuring this. Want to talk about the 1% and how America is an oligarchy? You might want to look up how 18 of the 25 wealthiest hedge fund owners are Jewish or how BlackRock, Vanguard, and State Street-which are either run by Jews or include Jews in many if not most of their senior positions-have a majority stake in 90% of the S&P 500. We could also bring up how virtually all of the media and social media is either owned, managed or have Jews in most of their senior positions.

Take in note, Jews only compromise 2% or so of the U.S. population. Do you see an issue here?

As for your second question, an oppressor is anyone who seeks to trample on the individual rights of others and their dignity. I know you probably thought I was gonna say "white people," but I'm not prejudiced against people for their skin color unlike a few of the posters here.

That's good you have that moral courage to distinguish, but it also is a rather general answer. In terms of the American system, who are the oppressors?

The government, banks, the MIC, the police and corporate America. That's who I see as the oppressors.

[New haven america]

They made bagels so they’re good with me.

Jews made bagels??????

God bless them! God bless them all!

Yes.

Because they have to pray before meals, but bcaause of how they're made, bagels technically aren't a meal so they can eat something without a whole bunch of fuss.

[Nakena]

By your logic then, White Supremacy in the American system should be re-codified and defended. It never ceases to amaze me what good little stooges of Neoliberalism and Social Darwinism people become when you bring up the Jewish Question.

I didn't know there was a ban on Christians becoming bankers. Why did nobody tell me about this?

Specifically a ban on usury. So in medieval europe, jews were amongst the few who were allowed to do a number of business which involved stuff like that. At the same time they were banned from engaging in stuff like farming and various trades etc.

So that gave some people the idea also jews would suck at agriculture etc. or entirely incapable. Which Israel has proven wrong quite a bit as the jews have very sucessfully cultivated the area.

[New haven america]

By your logic then, White Supremacy in the American system should be re-codified and defended. It never ceases to amaze me what good little stooges of Neoliberalism and Social Darwinism people become when you bring up the Jewish Question.

I didn't know there was a ban on Christians becoming bankers. Why did nobody tell me about this?

The Church believed that banking was an inherently Greed filled job/industry so it banned Christians from doing it.

Since Jews weren't Christians, that ban didn't apply to them, so they could run and operate their own banks, which pissed of European peasants as banking was the most lucrative business at the time. So they took their anger out on the Jews when in reality it was The Vatican's fault.

[Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana]

The government, banks, the MIC, the police and corporate America. That's who I see as the oppressors.

And who controls and runs most of that? About the only body you won't find many Jews are in the police.

The Irish, actually

This isn’t a joke btw, most of the top 1% of America is Irish descended Americans

[Picairn]

The Irish, actually

This isn’t a joke btw, most of the top 1% of America is Irish descended Americans

Proof that the Irish actually rule the world. The Jews are just a cover. /s

[New haven america]

The Irish, actually

This isn’t a joke btw, most of the top 1% of America is Irish descended Americans

You'd need statistics to prove it, because it's a meme answer not really backed up.

So says the guy that believes a cabal of Jews is running the US from the shadows, and that we're all puppets to the Jewish masterplan.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Yes, capitalism. Can't really blame Jews for being powerful given the massive head start Christians gave them when it came to things like banking.

By your logic then, White Supremacy in the American system should be re-codified and defended. It never ceases to amaze me what good little stooges of Neoliberalism and Social Darwinism people become when you bring up the Jewish Question.

It's not neoliberalism or social darwinism lol. It's just basic history. There isn't some vast Jewish conspiracy to destroy the white race, they're literally only powerful in society because historical circumstances forced them into roles that became powerful down the line. Literally just chance, that's all.

[Washington Resistance Army]

It's not neoliberalism or social darwinism lol. It's just basic history. There isn't some vast Jewish conspiracy to destroy the white race, they're literally only powerful in society because historical circumstances forced them into roles that became powerful down the line. Literally just chance, that's all.

Except that's not what you said:

Yes, capitalism. Can't really blame Jews for being powerful given the massive head start Christians gave them when it came to things like banking.

Beyond the fact you conceded the point, the fact you don't apparently see issue with this is very much a defense of the status quo and your exact phrasing pretty clearly shows your feelings; how they got there doesn't matter, it's the fact they are still there and continue to horde that political power and wealth. Further, as I have pointed out in this thread and to which nobody has been able to author a rebuttal, none of the limitations on Christian finance ever existed in America. Indeed, outside of Black riots in New York City in the 1990s, there was never much in the way of even Anti-Semitism, as Jewish historians have noted.

Further, if you really want to get down and in the grit, don't tell me there isn't ethnic solidarity on a formal level when the ADL and AIPAC exist.

Honest question but is English not your first language? You constantly read into things that aren't there and misunderstand stuff so I'd like to know, because nothing in those posts conflicts.

Yes you're right none of the limitations on Christian finance ever existed legally in America, but that doesn't change the fact that Jews as an ethnic group had a vast head start. Why should I use your bank when some Jews came over from Europe and already have hundreds of years of experience on the matter? There were also huge closure and turnover rates on banks in the early United States because of shady or downright idiotic practices so no shit the oldest and most established ones were the ones most likely to last and become dominant in the market. This is just basic capitalism, like I hate the system but it's working exactly how it should.

[Miku the Based]

Harassing other races usually comes with the territory of any kind of racial supremacism.

Supremacy implies domination, being at the top of a pecking order, so that's true. It should be separate from simply being proud.

It doesn't nessesarly mean domination. The "authority, power or status" part of definition of surpremacy could mean the belief that a thing is surpreme or superior to another, not nessesarly that the superior must or should dominate over the inferior, or even excerise its will over the inferior.
Not agrueing for white surpemisism but clarifying the meaning of supremacy in general. For example, a true hermdaprite supremacist does not necessarily mean the herms must force it's will on the non-herm population. It could but it's not a nessessary requirement of being a supremacist, simply the belief of the true herm being superior over other forms of beings in any capacity is enough to be supremacist.

[New haven america]

So says the guy that believes a cabal of Jews is running the US from the shadows, and that we're all puppets to the Jewish masterplan.

You throw shade because you can't directly engage with my points. It's why the last time I challenged you on this, you refused and backed off.

You've never made any points to begin with.

[Suriyanakhon]

As long as they arent harassing anyone or being violent, They can be prideful of their heritage.

White supremacists are almost never prideful of their heritage, at least, you don't see most of them going to cultural festivals or learning about real historical European cultures instead of obsessing about racial purity and having weird fantasies about Atlantean god-men from Mars. I've honestly met more anarchists and leftists who loved their heritage, ironically.

[Diarcesia]

As long as they arent harassing anyone or being violent, They can be prideful of their heritage.

White supremacists are almost never prideful of their heritage, at least, you don't see most of them going to cultural festivals or learning about real historical European cultures instead of obsessing about racial purity and having weird fantasies about Atlantean god-men from Mars. I've honestly met more anarchists and leftists who loved their heritage, ironically.

That's quite an own goal in my book.

[Washington Resistance Army]

As long as they arent harassing anyone or being violent, They can be prideful of their heritage.

White supremacists are almost never prideful of their heritage, at least, you don't see most of them going to cultural festivals or learning about real historical European cultures instead of obsessing about racial purity and having weird fantasies about Atlantean god-men from Mars. I've honestly met more anarchists and leftists who loved their heritage, ironically.

This. I'd say I'm pretty proud of my heritage, I'm learning Irish Gaelic, I'm a member of the Celtic League etc etc. Can't say I've seen many Nazis do the same.

[Rusozak]

The Irish, actually

This isn’t a joke btw, most of the top 1% of America is Irish descended Americans

You'd need statistics to prove it, because it's a meme answer not really backed up.

Says the Nazi thinking some ebul Jewish cabal controls the world.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

White supremacists are almost never prideful of their heritage, at least, you don't see most of them going to cultural festivals or learning about real historical European cultures instead of obsessing about racial purity and having weird fantasies about Atlantean god-men from Mars. I've honestly met more anarchists and leftists who loved their heritage, ironically.

This. I'd say I'm pretty proud of my heritage, I'm learning Irish Gaelic, I'm a member of the Celtic League etc etc. Can't say I've seen many Nazis do the same.

Tbh people who are proud to be Irish always seem more open to outsiders than people who are proud to be white.

[-Astoria-]

You know why.

No need for the emphasis; just didn't want to end up putting words in their mouth.

Of course I already have a guess.

[Ayytaly]

This. I'd say I'm pretty proud of my heritage, I'm learning Irish Gaelic, I'm a member of the Celtic League etc etc. Can't say I've seen many Nazis do the same.

Tbh people who are proud to be Irish always seem more open to outsiders than people who are proud to be white.

That's because Irish means Irish, whereas "White" means "anyone the Anglo/Germanic ruling class deem as 'equals' for both political purposes and maintaining the Status Quo."

[Fahran]

Specifically a ban on usury. So in medieval europe, jews were amongst the few who were allowed to do a number of business which involved stuff like that. At the same time they were banned from engaging in stuff like farming and various trades etc.

So that gave some people the idea also jews would suck at agriculture etc. or entirely incapable. Which Israel has proven wrong quite a bit as the jews have very sucessfully cultivated the area.

Several Italian and German banking families managed to find loopholes in laws against usury, most notably the Medici, who dominated European banking in the late medieval and early modern period. They wouldn't usually charge interest directly. Instead, they employed exchange rates and bills of exchange, kick-backs, and gifts to those who kept accounts with the bank. In practical terms, this was simply interest by another name, but the sophisticated rules-lawyering allowed them to avoid the whiff of sulfur and brimstone.

[Fahran]

i've already written three effortposts in this thread tho ;-;

But it'll be fun.

[New haven america]

This. I'd say I'm pretty proud of my heritage, I'm learning Irish Gaelic, I'm a member of the Celtic League etc etc. Can't say I've seen many Nazis do the same.

Tbh people who are proud to be Irish always seem more open to outsiders than people who are proud to be white.

I'd be more supportive of my Irish heritage if they let me have citizenship already...

[Fahran]

Tbh people who are proud to be Irish always seem more open to outsiders than people who are proud to be white.

Irish nationalism in the context of the United States boggles my mind a bit, but that's largely because I prefer a more assimilated and American nationalism. Southern nationalism in my case.

[Suriyanakhon]

Tbh people who are proud to be Irish always seem more open to outsiders than people who are proud to be white.

Irish nationalism in the context of the United States boggles my mind a bit, but that's largely because I prefer a more assimilated and American nationalism. Southern nationalism in my case.

Being proud of a region that's fond of iced tea confuses me.