White Supremacy discussion thread

[The Reformed American Republic]

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Bet you could find an Armenian one pretty easily too.

You can find pride groups for any ethnic group. I agree with Kowani's point.

[Farnhamia]

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Bet you could find an Armenian one pretty easily too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_ ... lent_Union

[Kowani]

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I think much of us lost our culture for some reason, as many of us are of mixed European heritage. I have Irish and German ancestry, but I have been "Americanized."

Also, please spoiler those images. It disrupts the thread.

those images are from the late 2000's and 2010's, it's highly unlikely the participants weren't "americanized" either
america assimilates those it chooses, and otherizes those it does not

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Bet you could find an Armenian one pretty easily too.

gotcha a whole-ass float

[The New California Republic]

Ethinic/Racial pride isn’t really “allowed” for “white” races. Except maybe for Spaniards and Italians. The twisted assumption is it will indisputably inevitably lead to extremism and segregationist behaviors and outlooks. An unfair generalization but... *shrug* it’s there.

sure it is
here's a polish-american parade

an italian-american parade

an irish-american parade

and a german-american parade

[Heloin]

I don't really hate anyone for being proud of their ethnic background and religion. It also amuses me that many African Americans could likely categorize themselves as BASPs.

Ethinic/Racial pride isn’t really “allowed” for “white” races. Except maybe for Spaniards and Italians. The twisted assumption is it will indisputably inevitably lead to extremism and segregationist behaviors and outlooks. An unfair generalization but... *shrug* it’s there.

You must spend St. Patrick's Day asleep then.

[Heloin]

sure it is
here's a polish-american parade

(Image)

an italian-american parade

(Image)

an irish-american parade

(Image)

and a german-american parade

(Image)

Needs more cowboy hats.

[Dejado Atras]

Ethinic/Racial pride isn’t really “allowed” for “white” races. Except maybe for Spaniards and Italians. The twisted assumption is it will indisputably inevitably lead to extremism and segregationist behaviors and outlooks. An unfair generalization but... *shrug* it’s there.

You must spend St. Patrick's Day asleep then.

Being able to celebrate and being able to celebrate without being attacked/boycotted as racist are two different things. Just look at Saint Paddy’s for example. The usual “racism” allegations have been heard in the past.

[The Reformed American Republic]

america assimilates those it chooses, and otherizes those it does not

To an extent, yes. Also, thanks for the spoiling.

[The New California Republic]

You must spend St. Patrick's Day asleep then.

Being able to celebrate and being able to celebrate without being attacked/boycotted as racist are two different things. Just look at Saint Paddy’s for example. The usual “racism” allegations have been heard in the past.

Don't really see the issue you are trying to point at, makes me suspect that there isn't really an issue at all. These events seem to happen with very little or no bother.

[Necroghastia]

WASP is still a thing also.

Appropriate name as I hate both wasps and people who unironically call themselves a "proud WASP".

Wasps are critical pollinators and are alright to be around if you don't bother them, they don't deserve this.

[The New California Republic]

Appropriate name as I hate both wasps and people who unironically call themselves a "proud WASP".

Wasps are critical pollinators and are alright to be around if you don't bother them, they don't deserve this.

No, wasps are hateful creatures that will snap at you if you even look at them funny.

[Senkaku]

Appropriate name as I hate both wasps and people who unironically call themselves a "proud WASP".

Wasps are critical pollinators and are alright to be around if you don't bother them, they don't deserve this.

One of the all-time worst clades around, even among the ar*hrop*ds. Pollinators do not get a free pass to sting people just because they're the essential workers of the terrestrial biosphere

[The Reformed American Republic]

...as if i needed yet another reason to be ashamed of the euro-american side of my ancestry.

White supremacy is obviously terrible, but this supposed need to be ashamed of having European ancestry is an absolutely fucking stupid idea.

[The Reformed American Republic]

ok as someone who is not active in the Gameplay forum I'm going to have to ask for a clarification lmao, are Pyongyang's cyber-operatives stalking our own humble God-fearing forum or something?

There's a region w/ like 20, 30 nations that unironically supports NK from a leftist perspective, called North Korea. They're part of NSLeft b/c they help with antifascist operations.

You can support atrocities and oppression in Gameplay as long as it's from a leftist prospective instead of a rightist one. It ensures I have no respect for the people in GP because the mainstream in GP defends them. Even one had the gall to claim that they do not truly support the Kims, when it's obvious they do.

[Kubra]

I don't really hate anyone for being proud of their ethnic background and religion. It also amuses me that many African Americans could likely categorize themselves as BASPs.

The issue who is the only people who call themselves "WASPs" are racists.

Yeah, the difference of category and identity. Plenty of fine folks are WASPs, but none of the good ones brag about it.

[Atheris]

The issue who is the only people who call themselves "WASPs" are racists.

Yeah, the difference of category and identity. Plenty of fine folks are WASPs, but none of the good ones brag about it.

I personally hate the term "WASP". It sounds stupid.

[Kubra]

Yeah, the difference of category and identity. Plenty of fine folks are WASPs, but none of the good ones brag about it.

I personally hate the term "WASP". It sounds stupid.

Nah it's great, real succinct as far as acronyms go.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Yeah, the difference of category and identity. Plenty of fine folks are WASPs, but none of the good ones brag about it.

I personally hate the term "WASP". It sounds stupid.

Only Wasp I like is the band.

[New haven america]

Case closed.

Oh True Refuge! Thank you for ascending from your break to come in this thread with the great intention to close the case. You are truly a shining example of progressivism and real communism TM!

But, no-thank-you for that pasta. It is not going to convince anybody in this thread... muahahahahaha!

The existence of dictators that pretend to be communist is irrelevant.

"It wasn't real communism"

Completly disregarding the fact that millions of people around the world actually believed (and some still do) in marxism-leninism and not a few of them worked for many years and dedicated and genuinely to making it work, even if a lot of them were horribly and awfully disappointed.

I don't mean to switch the topic or anything, I just wanted to ask a question. Is the old flag of South Africa considered racist? I know it was used during the era of apartheid, but it was technically created before apartheid came into existence.

No not necessarily by itself. Its a historic flag. And its definetively allowed on NS afaik.

Was the USSR communist? Let's find out!

A communist society describe by Marx and Engels is: A stateless, classless society, where the workers control the means of production.

Let's see... Was the USSR stateless? Nope, it was a nation state composed of tons of smaller states. Was the USSR classless? Again, no, it had sociopolitical classes based on party loyalty and position in government. Did the workers control the means of production? Definitely not, under most of it's history it was controlled by high ranking bureaucrats (A lot of whom have become modern day oligarchs and politicians), and under Stalin, it was all controlled by 1 person.

So no, the USSR wasn't by definition, communist.

[New haven america]

1. Them being normal members of the society they're apart of.

1. Okay, define that for me.

2. Well... The Black Death is basically dead, we've discovered 3 new continents, new styles of art/math/science, books are easily available, horses are no longer our primary form of transportation, we've discovered how to harness and control electricity and nuclear energy...

But I assume you mean in relation to Judaism. In this case, there is no longer Church doctrine that disallows Christians from being bankers (The Church doesn't even have power in any developed countries anymore), as well as the fact that most Jews now live in North America instead of North Africa, specifically in the US which is a multi-cultural nation. So the 2 biggest factors of the "Double Loyalty" conspiracy are out the window. Judaism is on every continent on the planet now, just as Christianity and Islam are.

2. Okay, it's not the Jim Crow era anymore, so there is nothing preventing Blacks or whoever else from improving their own condition. Obviously you disagree with that because you believe White Supremacy provides an informal barrier to achievement among POC but for some magical reason, Jews don't act the same? This is further bizarre given your earlier gotcha attempts with the "Jews are White" point.

3. The reason why Jews were so hated in Rome is because they didn't submit to Roman rule, which got them kicked out of Israel and Sent to Europe and North Africa. Now, newly Christianized Europe specifically, after The Fall of Rome (Western Rome specifically) all the way through The Dark Ages, hated Jews due to the fact that Christians weren't allowed to do most banking work if they could do any at all due to Church doctrine about Greed, while Jews were. Jews didn't follow the rules of The Church, so they could do the most lucrative banking jobs and own their own banks, which really ticked off non-Jewish Europeans as banking was the most lucrative business at that time.

This is where the idea of the whole "Rich Jewish Businessman" controlling the world comes from, peasants mad at Jews because of something their Church is actually responsible for.

You're basically using a grudge from a system that hasn't existed for >500 years to justify your hated. You can work at a bank now, get over it.

3. As you note, Church restrictions on banking haven't existed in nearly a millennia. Why, then, does Jewish control persist? Specifically in the case of the United States, no suck restrictions-or even the nation, for that matter-existed 500 years ago to begin with, so how exactly did we end up with this situation in the United States?

1. How about you actually get to the point for once in your life?
2. There actually is. The GOP has spent decades making sure black people can't improve their socioeconomic conditions, mainly by attacking education and supporting gentrification of areas with black majority populations.
3. Actually, the religious group with the most control over the US at the moment are Baptists and Catholics.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

I personally hate the term "WASP". It sounds stupid.

Only Wasp I like is the band.

My man.

[Narland]

Oh True Refuge! Thank you for ascending from your break to come in this thread with the great intention to close the case. You are truly a shining example of progressivism and real communism TM!

But, no-thank-you for that pasta. It is not going to convince anybody in this thread... muahahahahaha!



"It wasn't real communism"

Completly disregarding the fact that millions of people around the world actually believed (and some still do) in marxism-leninism and not a few of them worked for many years and dedicated and genuinely to making it work, even if a lot of them were horribly and awfully disappointed.



No not necessarily by itself. Its a historic flag. And its definetively allowed on NS afaik.

Was the USSR communist? Let's find out!

A communist society describe by Marx and Engels is: A stateless, classless society, where the workers control the means of production.

Let's see... Was the USSR stateless? Nope, it was a nation state composed of tons of smaller states. Was the USSR classless? Again, no, it had sociopolitical classes based on party loyalty and position in government. Did the workers control the means of production? Definitely not, under most of it's history it was controlled by high ranking bureaucrats, and under Stalin, it was all controlled by 1 person.

So no, the USSR wasn't by definition, communist.

In the "dictatorship of the proletariat" Marx defines what he means by a stateless society. It is a form of the state where members of the working class take control of the state and nationalize the means of production in order to make everything publicly owned. He further bloviates that it will improve the standing of the current community, but of course it never does. Did the Soviet Union nationalise everything and criminalize or try to vanquish anything that couldn't be sufficiently nationalized? Yes, yes it did.

What did Marx mean when he said classless? He meant that no person was born into a ruling class or benefited from surplus by reason of birth. In Marxist-Lenninsim in order to be part of the ruling class one had to joint the Party. Only those of the Party could become part of the Politboro or other organs of government. So yes, by Marx, the Soviet union was a classless society.

In the Soviet Union the Workers were the Party and the Party were the workers. The workers by means of the party controlled the means of production and everyone suffered for it, because of the tragedy of the commons being applied to the workplace. One can argue that Communists Party loyalists suffered the least, but that is irrelevant to the unreliability of Marx' delusions. To wit, the stateless society owned all real property in the name of the workers wherein they owned the means of production but not the right to own their own productivity as one would expect in a natural economy. So did the workers of the Soviet Union control the means of their own production according to Marx? Yes, yes it did.

[Alcala-Cordel]

Aww, the best you could come up with is that fallacy? No, dictatorships really aren't communism and you really need to learn about the existence of misleading advertising.

Those states don't even claim to be communist, they pretend to be transitionsl states that prepare society for communism (they aren't, and they have no intention to). The fact that some people believe it means nothing.


Maybe if people believe this bottle is paper hard enough it'll be a paper bottle.

It's not a "fellacy". It's a matter of fact that many people believed in it. And I know enough about your church. And yeah theres a reason why I called them marxist-leninist. Many believed they would, somehow, despite it all, be the better system.

Are you gonna try to refute my point, or does "no it's not" suffice?

[Alcala-Cordel]

sure it is
here's a polish-american parade

an italian-american parade

an irish-american parade

and a german-american parade

[Nakena]

It's not a "fellacy". It's a matter of fact that many people believed in it. And I know enough about your church. And yeah theres a reason why I called them marxist-leninist. Many believed they would, somehow, despite it all, be the better system.

Are you gonna try to refute my point, or does "no it's not" suffice?

The state ideology of the USSR and similiar nations was Marxism Leninism and you know that as good as I do. And their end game was communism. And millions of communists - including in the west and not just tankies - believed in that idea and that the ML nations had the potential to become something better than they were or ever would be. Of course most of them were disappointed one way or another.