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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:23 pm
by Cartheen
Islamic Holy Sites wrote:
Cartheen wrote:
no, racism is not against the law.

That wasn't what I was taught.

Well i'm not sure what to tell you, because it is indeed legal to be racist

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:24 pm
by The Huskar Social Union
Mannixa Prime wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Hmmm? How is it cringe worthy?

Black women are not objects for white liberals to spite white racists thanks

Im a socialist actually not al iberal and i originally said it to him in a thread where he was crying his eyes out about how white people shouldn't be going with black people and how interracial marriage shouldn't be allowed because it leads to mixed kids. Also Ill say whatever the fuck i want unless it violates the rules.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:25 pm
by Alcala-Cordel
Do you think white supermascists should be able to express their views?

No, and I don't care that it's free speech. White supremacists have nothing good to contribute whatsoever.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:25 pm
by Islamic Holy Sites
Cartheen wrote:
Islamic Holy Sites wrote:That wasn't what I was taught.

Well i'm not sure what to tell you, because it is indeed legal to be racist

Then it shouldn't.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:27 pm
by Cartheen
Islamic Holy Sites wrote:
Cartheen wrote:Well i'm not sure what to tell you, because it is indeed legal to be racist

Then it shouldn't.

why?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:27 pm
by Alcala-Cordel
Mannixa Prime wrote:
Western Theram wrote:you mean like china? cause that's exactly what they are. do you know what capitalism means? do you understand that state capitalism is still capitalism right? unless you're talking about fascism (which if you are that's hilarious cause fascism is inheritly capitalist) Image

"State capitalism is an economic system in which the state undertakes business and commercial economic activity (i.e. for-profit) and where the means of production are organized and managed as state-owned enterprises (including the processes of capital accumulation, centralized management and wage labor), or where there is otherwise a dominance of corporatized government agencies (agencies organized along business-management practices) or of public companies such as publicly listed corporations in which the state has controlling shares."

Holy fuck

Fascism is capitalism in decay.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:27 pm
by Mannixa Prime
The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Mannixa Prime wrote:Black women are not objects for white liberals to spite white racists thanks

Im a socialist actually not al iberal and i originally said it to him in a thread where he was crying his eyes out about how white people shouldn't be going with black people and how interracial marriage shouldn't be allowed because it leads to mixed kids. Also Ill say whatever the fuck i want unless it violates the rules.

Wow what a rebel

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:28 pm
by Islamic Holy Sites
Cartheen wrote:
Islamic Holy Sites wrote:Then it shouldn't.

why?

Because it is harassment and evil, that's why. Why do you ask?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:28 pm
by The Huskar Social Union
Mannixa Prime wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Im a socialist actually not al iberal and i originally said it to him in a thread where he was crying his eyes out about how white people shouldn't be going with black people and how interracial marriage shouldn't be allowed because it leads to mixed kids. Also Ill say whatever the fuck i want unless it violates the rules.

Wow what a rebel

Got an x wing and all pew pew

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:28 pm
by Cartheen
Alcala-Cordel wrote:
Do you think white supermascists should be able to express their views?

No, and I don't care that it's free speech. White supremacists have nothing good to contribute whatsoever.


Free speech isn't about allowing viewpoints viewed as good, it's about allowing people to speak their minds without getting persecuted for it.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:28 pm
by Western Theram
in germany any portrayal of nazism is illegal. does that mean there aren't nazis in germany? no but there's certainly alot less of them there then use to be

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:29 pm
by Vorausen
Western Theram wrote:in germany any portrayal of nazism is illegal. does that mean there aren't nazis in germany? no but there's certainly alot less of them there then use to be



Or rather we think there are a lot less, but we can not honestly tell because the portrayal of Nazism is illegal there.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:30 pm
by Atheris
Islamic Holy Sites wrote:
Cartheen wrote:Well i'm not sure what to tell you, because it is indeed legal to be racist

Then it shouldn't.

Yes, it should. Free speech is one of, if not the most important, tenets of free society.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:30 pm
by Alcala-Cordel
Cartheen wrote:
Alcala-Cordel wrote:No, and I don't care that it's free speech. White supremacists have nothing good to contribute whatsoever.


Free speech isn't about allowing viewpoints viewed as good, it's about allowing people to speak their minds without getting persecuted for it.

I know, the thing is I'm not exactly against persecuting open fascists

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:31 pm
by Islamic Holy Sites
Cartheen wrote:
Alcala-Cordel wrote:No, and I don't care that it's free speech. White supremacists have nothing good to contribute whatsoever.


Free speech isn't about allowing viewpoints viewed as good, it's about allowing people to speak their minds without getting persecuted for it.

Then we should scrap free speech and make a new system.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:31 pm
by Vorausen
Atheris wrote:
Islamic Holy Sites wrote:Then it shouldn't.

Yes, it should. Free speech is one of, if not the most important, tenets of free society.


My point exactly. :bow: :bow:

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:32 pm
by Western Theram
Alcala-Cordel wrote:
Mannixa Prime wrote:Holy fuck

Fascism is capitalism in decay.

lenin right?
considering the state of germany in the 1920s id say he was right

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:32 pm
by Islamic Holy Sites
Vorausen wrote:
Western Theram wrote:in germany any portrayal of nazism is illegal. does that mean there aren't nazis in germany? no but there's certainly alot less of them there then use to be



Or rather we think there are a lot less, but we can not honestly tell because the portrayal of Nazism is illegal there.

That means there are roughly 0 Nazi portryals.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:33 pm
by South Reinkalistan
Atheris wrote:
Islamic Holy Sites wrote:Then it shouldn't.

Yes, it should. Free speech is one of, if not the most important, tenets of free society.

au contraire

>bursts into room
>"free speech is gay"
>refuses to elaborate further
>leaves
Image

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:33 pm
by Alcala-Cordel
Western Theram wrote:
Alcala-Cordel wrote:Fascism is capitalism in decay.

lenin right?
considering the state of germany in the 1920s id say he was right

Could be lenin, he might not have actually said it though. Good quote regardless, and definitely accurate to 1920s Germany.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:33 pm
by Islamic Holy Sites
Atheris wrote:
Islamic Holy Sites wrote:Then it shouldn't.

Yes, it should. Free speech is one of, if not the most important, tenets of free society.

How about controlled free speech?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:34 pm
by Conservative Republic Of Huang
Cartheen wrote:
Alcala-Cordel wrote:No, and I don't care that it's free speech. White supremacists have nothing good to contribute whatsoever.


Free speech isn't about allowing viewpoints viewed as good, it's about allowing people to speak their minds without getting persecuted for it.

There are certain types of speech that are criminalized, such as speech that may cause imminent violent action. We don't consider that to be a violation of free speech. Propagating fascism, I would say, is incitement to violent action, if not necessarily imminent.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:34 pm
by The Huskar Social Union
Islamic Holy Sites wrote:
Atheris wrote:Yes, it should. Free speech is one of, if not the most important, tenets of free society.

How about controlled free speech?

hmmm

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:34 pm
by South Reinkalistan
Alcala-Cordel wrote:
Western Theram wrote:lenin right?
considering the state of germany in the 1920s id say he was right

Could be lenin, he might not have actually said it though. Good quote regardless, and definitely accurate to 1920s Germany.

lenin didn't say it, i don't think he was particularly lucid when fascism arose

it was r. palme dutt of the cpgb who said that iirc

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:34 pm
by Cartheen
Islamic Holy Sites wrote:
Atheris wrote:Yes, it should. Free speech is one of, if not the most important, tenets of free society.

How about controlled free speech?

that's not free speech