White Supremacy discussion thread

[Thermodolia]

The United States of America will be declared an outpost of Western civilization and a state dedicated to its European-heritage population and their posterity. It will be the policy of the state to set immigration and natal policy that will ensure a permanent European majority

White nationalism.

That’s not the GOP platform but the american nazi party

[Borderlands of Rojava]

I have read their views on Cubans and all ethnic and racial groups, Where do you think I have been and I will never say where I have been? Yes, they idolize Hitler but they still want their White Christian Ethnic State for Whites Only. Dude Rojava Knows what I am talking about, Dude 95 % of my Cuban Family is White Euro Blond Haired Blue Eyed Cubans on all sides of our Cuban Family, I have a Cuban Red Haired Ginger Cousin Cuban and their kids in the family. We have white Euro Americans Proud Republican Trump Supporters, Pro USA, USA, USA, American Patriot Citizens of the USA and their kids in the Family.

From España La Madre Patria Descent From Northern España La Madre Patria. I can share more details and I think I can related it to the topic of this thread on my Cuban Family's ethnic Euro Descents through Argentina and Uruguay they imigrated there from España La Madre Patria, Viva España La Madre Patria.

Dude it doesn’t matter. A lot of Jews where very much german and that didn’t save them. All of your super patriotic “USA USA USA” bullshit won’t save you.

On top of that you have a disability, one which is hereditary, and WN/WS have never looked kindly on people with disabilities.

If a WS/WN nation where to rise up in the US you and me would be near the first to go. Though I’d rather go down by blowing up a government building than be tossed into a train car

Yeah if the Whitenats seized power, as a socialist and as a hispanic I would be dead as shit.

[Nakena]

trying to get back on topic, what would WS actually achieve. turning a country into an exclusive club so you can say you're superior

What would they achieve? Well generally it involves getting embargoed by 90% of the world or getting blown to bits because the allied nations decided that they had enough

Apartheid South Africa had quite some western support then and now. Also they had good relations with Israel, too.

[-Astoria-]

Now that's a name that's familiar.

I haven't seen you in a while. Lol.

Touché, mon ami.

[Thermodolia]

What would they achieve? Well generally it involves getting embargoed by 90% of the world or getting blown to bits because the allied nations decided that they had enough

Arpartheid South Africa had quite some western support then and now. Also they had good relations with Israel, too.

Right but that’s why I said 90% of the world. Not 100% but most of it

[Thermodolia]

Dude it doesn’t matter. A lot of Jews where very much german and that didn’t save them. All of your super patriotic “USA USA USA” bullshit won’t save you.

On top of that you have a disability, one which is hereditary, and WN/WS have never looked kindly on people with disabilities.

If a WS/WN nation where to rise up in the US you and me would be near the first to go. Though I’d rather go down by blowing up a government building than be tossed into a train car

Yeah if the Whitenats seized power, as a socialist and as a hispanic I would be dead as shit.

If it ever happens you can join me in going out in a blaze of glory for the freedom of all

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Yeah if the Whitenats seized power, as a socialist and as a hispanic I would be dead as shit.

If it ever happens you can join me in going out in a blaze of glory for the freedom of all

Hopefully it never happens and white nationalists are never even given enough power to one neighborhood, let alone a country.

[Nakena]

Arpartheid South Africa had quite some western support then and now. Also they had good relations with Israel, too.

Right but that’s why I said 90% of the world. Not 100% but most of it

Depends. The 1940s and 50s US would probably by many today considered white supremacist as they performed racial segregation and other stuff. Sweden had eugenics into the 1970s. And so on. I don't believe a white nationalist US would be particulary villified except maybe in Europe. It's the same why a fair chunk of UN member nations including PRC or Saudi Arabia is getting away with poor human right records. Either they are too important or mass media doesnt cares about them.

Unless they are in spotlight for one reason or another.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Right but that’s why I said 90% of the world. Not 100% but most of it

Depends. The 1940s and 50s US would probably by many today considered white supremacist as they performed racial segregation and other stuff. Sweden had eugenics into the 1970s. And so on. I don't believe a white nationalist US would be particulary villified except maybe in Europe. It's the same why a fair chunk of UN member nations including PRC or Saudi Arabia is getting away with poor human right records. Either they are too important or mass media doesnt cares about them.

Unless they are in spotlight for one reason or another.

Considering how most of the world wouldn't be welcome in the US, I think they would care.

[Nakena]

Depends. The 1940s and 50s US would probably by many today considered white supremacist as they performed racial segregation and other stuff. Sweden had eugenics into the 1970s. And so on. I don't believe a white nationalist US would be particulary villified except maybe in Europe. It's the same why a fair chunk of UN member nations including PRC or Saudi Arabia is getting away with poor human right records. Either they are too important or mass media doesnt cares about them.

Unless they are in spotlight for one reason or another.

Considering how most of the world wouldn't be welcome in the US, I think they would care.

No it wouldn be fundamentally different than whats currently going on in china. They are extremly restrictive to whom they give citizenship, basically never give it to non-ethnic chinese afaik.

Also generally the US had phases of white supremacy and some particulary ugly racist bullshit going on during Jim Crow. One of the most egregious examples would be the 1890 Mississippi constitution

[Senkaku]

We could debate this at length, but this isn't really a good place to have a conversation on how women are totally materialistic and won't look your way if you're not making at least $40,000 a year and spoiling them with flowers and chocolates. Really though, I have no idea why you feel trying to reinforce Sai's pessimism about the world is in any way useful to his or anyone else's mental well-being or prospects at life.

Well that's not what I said so...

I mean I guess you never explicitly stated a dollar amount or specified the type of gifts but uhhh otherwise I think Fahran's summary is right on the money lmao

Do I feel some projection emanating from this post? I think I do.

"projection!!" is very rarely an insightful observation, most of the time it's the adult equivalent of "I'm rubber you're glue!!"

(Hint: My critique wasn't based on misogyny, it was based on the gender role that women shouldn't be the breadwinners.

The misogyny was purely incidental then, got it

But it's not pessimistic, it's true, realism if you will.

Maybe being gay means I'm incapable of truly understanding the depths of the female mind's icy and pitiless materialism, but I don't think that's the case, so I'm going to say... no, it's pessimism, not realism

[Fahran]

Or maybe he's into the work of Kevin B. MacDonald.

I like how MacDonald uses the phrase "Western Jews" to mean well-educated, liberal Ashkenazim whose ancestors came over to America from Russia, Germany, and Poland and who swiftly embraced Haskalah movements. He also ignores that Jewish people were broadly conservative up until the time of the Enlightenment, and that liberalization is very much something that occurred simultaneously in Jewish and non-Jewish European populations.

[Fahran]

If it ever happens you can join me in going out in a blaze of glory for the freedom of all

Why go out in a blaze of glory when we can defeat them?

[Salus Maior]

For men specifically, if you're older than 18 and don't have a semi-steady income, good luck getting any woman in your age range to even look in your direction. You can't expect your parents to pay for all your dates and act as transportation. (Plus, a lot of or even the slight majority of straight women will not get with men who are less financially successful than they themselves are past a certain age, usually mid 30's and beyond) Hopes and dreams don't pay for dates, gifts, and rent.

We could debate this at length, but this isn't really a good place to have a conversation on how women are totally materialistic and won't look your way if you're not making at least $40,000 a year and spoiling them with flowers and chocolates. Really though, I have no idea why you feel trying to reinforce Sai's pessimism about the world is in any way useful to his or anyone else's mental well-being or prospects at life.

Agreed.

I mean, I’m in a serious relationship and I’m not rich by any means. I think trying to generalize relationships that way (or any number of ways) isn’t going to work in reality.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Or maybe he's into the work of Kevin B. MacDonald.

I like how MacDonald uses the phrase "Western Jews" to mean well-educated, liberal Ashkenazim whose ancestors came over to America from Russia, Germany, and Poland and who swiftly embraced Haskalah movements. He also ignores that Jewish people were broadly conservative up until the time of the Enlightenment, and that liberalization is very much something that occurred simultaneously in Jewish and non-Jewish European populations.

I read an interview of MacDonald where when asked about who is and isn't white and why the Irish were once not white, his response was basically jumbled noise. I don't think he knows much besides "I don't like Jews."

[Fahran]

I read an interview of MacDonald where when asked about who is and isn't white and why the Irish were once not white, his response was basically jumbled noise. I don't think he knows much besides "I don't like Jews."

I mean saying "we don't like them" would be a lot simpler than coming up with elaborate reasons not to like us in a generalized way.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

I read an interview of MacDonald where when asked about who is and isn't white and why the Irish were once not white, his response was basically jumbled noise. I don't think he knows much besides "I don't like Jews."

I mean saying "we don't like them" would be a lot simpler than coming up with elaborate reasons not to like us in a generalized way.

I still struggle to see how the Jews are biologically different from "the whites." Most Jews I've met don't stand out in a crowd of non Jewish white Americans, so how is race "about preserving our phenotype" but then the next moment people with the same phenotype are being hated on.

And where does this idea of the Jews being masters of the world come from? I'm really supposed to believe that there's a conspiracy involving millions of people including both Woody Allen and Sharon Dubois happening right now?

[Kowani]

I like how MacDonald uses the phrase "Western Jews" to mean well-educated, liberal Ashkenazim whose ancestors came over to America from Russia, Germany, and Poland and who swiftly embraced Haskalah movements. He also ignores that Jewish people were broadly conservative up until the time of the Enlightenment, and that liberalization is very much something that occurred simultaneously in Jewish and non-Jewish European populations.

I read an interview of MacDonald where when asked about who is and isn't white and why the Irish were once not white, his response was basically jumbled noise. I don't think he knows much besides "I don't like Jews."

that tends to be the end of it all anyway
they invent a fuckton of reasons for it, ranging from psuedoscience, to bad history, to your traditional "secret cabal" conspiracy theories
but when you push a little, it comes down to "we don't like jews"

[Borderlands of Rojava]

I read an interview of MacDonald where when asked about who is and isn't white and why the Irish were once not white, his response was basically jumbled noise. I don't think he knows much besides "I don't like Jews."

that tends to be the end of it all anyway
they invent a fuckton of reasons for it, ranging from psuedoscience, to bad history, to your traditional "secret cabal" conspiracy theories
but when you push a little, it comes down to "we don't like jews"

"Who's white Kevin?"

"I am and the Jews are after me. That's why they invented the enlightenment to make white people do the bad touch with black people, destroying our race forever and ruining the gene pool in Europe for all of history."

[Salus Maior]

I read an interview of MacDonald where when asked about who is and isn't white and why the Irish were once not white, his response was basically jumbled noise. I don't think he knows much besides "I don't like Jews."

that tends to be the end of it all anyway
they invent a fuckton of reasons for it, ranging from psuedoscience, to bad history, to your traditional "secret cabal" conspiracy theories
but when you push a little, it comes down to "we don't like jews"

It’s almost as if race theories are bullshit

[Salus Maior]

that tends to be the end of it all anyway
they invent a fuckton of reasons for it, ranging from psuedoscience, to bad history, to your traditional "secret cabal" conspiracy theories
but when you push a little, it comes down to "we don't like jews"

"Who's white Kevin?"

"I am and the Jews are after me. That's why they invented the enlightenment to make white people do the bad touch with black people, destroying our race forever and ruining the gene pool in Europe for all of history."

Honestly, the enlightenment was the foundation for pretty much all modern thought including racialist thought. So really, he should be thanking them.

[Thermodolia]

If it ever happens you can join me in going out in a blaze of glory for the freedom of all

Why go out in a blaze of glory when we can defeat them?

I’m assuming it’s more 1939 and less 1944

[Borderlands of Rojava]

that tends to be the end of it all anyway
they invent a fuckton of reasons for it, ranging from psuedoscience, to bad history, to your traditional "secret cabal" conspiracy theories
but when you push a little, it comes down to "we don't like jews"

No, not really, unless you're generalizing all opinions and showing you haven't really read much beyond the occasional low tier YouTube comment section. Let me ask you a question: what is most powerful in society? Not necessarily people, but material forces in a sense. If you asked me, I would say money, in that the ultra-rich are able to leverage their wealth into power/influence. Would you agree with this?

As someone who has dealt with many a white supremacist, kowani is right that bigots often use contradictory points as to why the Jews are bad.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

As someone who has dealt with many a white supremacist, kowani is right that bigots often use contradictory points as to why the Jews are bad.

Okay, your point is noted but not relevant to what I asked or a statement of objective fact. If you want, however, feel free to answer the question I posed and we can go from there.

Yes money is the most powerful thing in our society.

[Saiwania]

What don’t you like about Jews?

It is nothing personal, it is more that most Jews in the US vote for the political enemies of Conservatives or the Alt Right, hence I'm going to be more against than for such people. I also have some biases as a Gentile that prefers my way over anything Jewish. I can't back male circumcision in general, and I'd never willingly keep Kosher among perhaps other things.