White Supremacy discussion thread

[Islamic Holy Sites]

Why do you think there should be such a distinction? If speech is so abhorrent that private citizens don't want to associate with it or further its spread in their own lives, why shouldn't they come together as a self-governing collective to agree on banning its public expression? Why would it be "more" wrong for the state to join in the fun? Again: this is something plenty of Western democracies already do without being much worse for wear.

"Cancel culture" and banning someone off a social media site are two different things. Like I said Private, they own the website they make the rules. *

(*of course obvious things apply)

Why can't we ban something that harasses basically everyone not white?

[Cartheen]

did you even read my argument? the part where I say "I don't see anything wrong with them being allowed to believe or express these ideas so long as they do not harass and threaten violence against people or groups they dislike". Why are you saying that I have no problem with these people advocating for violence when I quite literally just said I do?

There is a legal distinction between advocating and threatening violence
A person who says “kill all Mexicans” is advocating
A person who says “I am going to kill all Mexicans” is threatening
These are not the same thing
That you are unaware of that is not my fault

Passive aggressive, much? Anyways, no, I don't see an issue (an issue big enough to silence them over, that is) with "kill all [group]". They're not threatening to kill all of them, they're saying they wish they were all killed.

[Cartheen]

did you even read my argument? the part where I say "I don't see anything wrong with them being allowed to believe or express these ideas so long as they do not harass and threaten violence against people or groups they dislike". Why are you saying that I have no problem with these people advocating for violence when I quite literally just said I do?

Well I replied to you but I guess you didn't see him

what?

[Islamic Holy Sites]

There is a legal distinction between advocating and threatening violence
A person who says “kill all Mexicans” is advocating
A person who says “I am going to kill all Mexicans” is threatening
These are not the same thing
That you are unaware of that is not my fault

Passive aggressive, much? Anyways, no, I don't see an issue (an issue big enough to silence them over, that is) with "kill all [group]". They're not threatening to kill all of them, they're saying they wish they were all killed.

As I said, it is threatening, intimidating an they also say 'I'll kill all [group]."

[Ladinacem Andia]

The entire concept of their ideology is premised on advocating for ethnic cleansing and eugenics. You cannot "just" believe in white supremacy; if you subscribe to an ideology you subscribe to the beliefs that logically follow from it (and which have been articulated explicitly and at great length by many of its thought leaders throughout history).

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There are numerous racists and nazis who do not act on their beliefs. You're making the false assumption that believing x should die = killing x.

This has to be the worst I have ever seen someone cornered.

"Guys guys, I know racists WANT people to die based on an arbitrary social construct, but they don't ALWAYS kill them"

Encouraging death or violence against someone based on their race is wrong, and by espousing racial supremacist beliefs you are doing so. Period. Just because you don't act, doesn't mean you still aren't advocating for someone's death.

[Diarcesia]

America has a classist problem not a racist problem

It has both, actually.

More like the racism problem is a corollary to the classism problem.

[Mannixa Prime]

It may be a weak point if your living in another reality

Capitalism and Third Postionist ideologies are like oil and water

America has a classist problem not a racist problem

"third positionism" lmao

"Fascism is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe."

fascism is literally just right-wing state capitalism

Another wow moment lol

Yup an ideology that rejects capitalism must be capitalist!

[Stellar Colonies]

It has both, actually.

More like the racism problem is a corollary to the classism problem.

Or a distraction.

[Greater Miami Shores]

Vorausen you're not gonna bridge the gap between me and white supremacists, or most people and them since they wanna push out the minorities, kill Jews and execute socialists. And most of them are very much against free speech and the right to disagree with how they feel.

There are white supremacists, white non supremacists and persons of all races and ethnic groups, that don't respect the democratic rights of other persons to disagree with them, I know many such persons from personal experiences, lol.

[The Reformed American Republic]

It has both, actually.

More like the racism problem is a corollary to the classism problem.

Much of the racism is actually an extension of the classism. Many minority disadvantages are class based and are vestiges of earlier times.

[Cartheen]

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There are numerous racists and nazis who do not act on their beliefs. You're making the false assumption that believing x should die = killing x.

This has to be the worst I have ever seen someone cornered.

"Guys guys, I know racists WANT people to die based on an arbitrary social construct, but they don't ALWAYS kill them"

Encouraging death or violence against someone based on their race is wrong, and by espousing racial supremacist beliefs you are doing so. Period. Just because you don't act, doesn't mean you still aren't advocating for someone's death.

First of all, nobody is "cornered", you don't need to add a passive aggressive "heh get owned idiot" to every single argument you make.
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Second of all, "i wish x group would die" is not a threat to kill them, so they should not be silenced over it. I don't see what argument you're making.

Anyways, i'm going to quote you: "Just because you don't act, doesn't mean you still aren't advocating for someone's death"

advocating isn't the same as threatening - didn't you bring this up earlier? I see no reason to ban advocating for it when they're not threatening to kill them.

Finally, a majority do not go onto killing someone once they wish they were dead. People often say "I wish x died" after x screws them out of a job, or x gets them into a car crash, or when x betrays them. How many of those people actually go on to kill that person? Few. The same goes for race. People wish death upon someone all the time without killing them. It's ridiculous to imply they usually do when that's obviously not the case.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Imagine unironically believing in that kind of fucking nonsense like honestly.

It's not nonsense if I can see it happening in front of my own eyes. It is just proving my point if the global population or my country for that matter, changes drastically and irreversibly over the 70 years or so between the year of my birth and death.

I'm not seeing China become less Chinese or India becoming less Indian and so on. I'm only seeing majority White countries getting more ruined from my perspective via becoming more diverse.

It is nonsense.

And i reiterate what i said before:

I would shag a black woman to spite you.

[Cartheen]

Passive aggressive, much? Anyways, no, I don't see an issue (an issue big enough to silence them over, that is) with "kill all [group]". They're not threatening to kill all of them, they're saying they wish they were all killed.

As I said, it is threatening, intimidating an they also say 'I'll kill all [group]."

how is it threatening violence? Also, why not only silence people who say they'll kill all of a group instead of just silencing everyone with that set of beliefs? it makes no sense to silence all of them.

[Mannixa Prime]

It's not nonsense if I can see it happening in front of my own eyes. It is just proving my point if the global population or my country for that matter, changes drastically and irreversibly over the 70 years or so between the year of my birth and death.

I'm not seeing China become less Chinese or India becoming less Indian and so on. I'm only seeing majority White countries getting more ruined from my perspective via becoming more diverse.

It is nonsense.

And i reiterate what i said before:

I would shag a black woman to spite you.

You win most cringe post of the day

[Islamic Holy Sites]

As I said, it is threatening, intimidating an they also say 'I'll kill all [group]."

how is it threatening violence? Also, why not only silence people who say they'll kill all of a group instead of just silencing everyone with that set of beliefs? it makes no sense to silence all of them.

Because they all have lunatic beliefs that blacks are stupid, and racism is against the law, right?

[Dumb Ideologies]

It is nonsense.

And i reiterate what i said before:

I would shag a black woman to spite you.

You win most cringe post of the day

Bold claim. There's a lot posted every day.

[The Black Forrest]

It is nonsense.

And i reiterate what i said before:

I would shag a black woman to spite you.

You win most cringe post of the day

Hmmm? How is it cringe worthy?

[The Huskar Social Union]

It is nonsense.

And i reiterate what i said before:

I would shag a black woman to spite you.

You win most cringe post of the day

Thank you thank you im honoured.

I would like to thank Dumb Ideologies, Rojava and Nigel Farage for all their love and support.

[Cartheen]

how is it threatening violence? Also, why not only silence people who say they'll kill all of a group instead of just silencing everyone with that set of beliefs? it makes no sense to silence all of them.

Because they all have lunatic beliefs that blacks are stupid, and racism is against the law, right?

no, racism is not against the law.

[Western Theram]

"third positionism" lmao

"Fascism is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe."

fascism is literally just right-wing state capitalism

Another wow moment lol

Yup an ideology that rejects capitalism must be capitalist!

you mean like china? cause that's exactly what they are. do you know what capitalism means? do you understand that state capitalism is still capitalism right? unless you're talking about fascism (which if you are that's hilarious cause fascism is inheritly capitalist)

"State capitalism is an economic system in which the state undertakes business and commercial economic activity (i.e. for-profit) and where the means of production are organized and managed as state-owned enterprises (including the processes of capital accumulation, centralized management and wage labor), or where there is otherwise a dominance of corporatized government agencies (agencies organized along business-management practices) or of public companies such as publicly listed corporations in which the state has controlling shares."

[Islamic Holy Sites]

Because they all have lunatic beliefs that blacks are stupid, and racism is against the law, right?

no, racism is not against the law.

That wasn't what I was taught.

[Dumb Ideologies]

You win most cringe post of the day

Thank you thank you im honoured.

I would like to thank Dumb Ideologies, Rojava and Nigel Farage for all their love and support.

Okay so I want out of this polycule right now.

[Mannixa Prime]

Another wow moment lol

Yup an ideology that rejects capitalism must be capitalist!

you mean like china? cause that's exactly what they are. do you know what capitalism means? do you understand that state capitalism is still capitalism right? unless you're talking about fascism (which if you are that's hilarious cause fascism is inheritly capitalist)

"State capitalism is an economic system in which the state undertakes business and commercial economic activity (i.e. for-profit) and where the means of production are organized and managed as state-owned enterprises (including the processes of capital accumulation, centralized management and wage labor), or where there is otherwise a dominance of corporatized government agencies (agencies organized along business-management practices) or of public companies such as publicly listed corporations in which the state has controlling shares."

Holy fuck

[Mannixa Prime]

You win most cringe post of the day

Hmmm? How is it cringe worthy?

Black women are not objects for white liberals to spite white racists thanks

[The Huskar Social Union]

Thank you thank you im honoured.

I would like to thank Bob Saget, Rojava and Nigel Farage for all their love and support.

Okay so I want out of this polycule right now.

I no longer thank Dumb ideologies for his love and support, in fact i shun them thusly and remove all mention of them from my thank you speech.