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Do you think white supermascists should be able to express their views?

Yes
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No
484
37%
Depends
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21%
Other
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Fri Apr 16, 2021 8:58 am

Insaanistan wrote:
Resilient Acceleration wrote:If I refer to a piece of paper with a skin color gradient, aren't Jewish people white? What's 'white'?

Depends.
Are you talking about Ashkenazi Jews, who are from Europe and make up the vast majority of Israelis?
Yes, they’re white.
Are you talking about Jews from Yemen or the family of Safiyya bint Huyyay (wife of Muhammad pbuh)
No. Not white.


There are quite a few middle easterners who are very pale. Idk why this stereotype keeps being pushed that everybody in the middle east looks like the characters from Aladdin.
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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Fri Apr 16, 2021 8:58 am

Genivaria wrote:
Laka Strolistandiler wrote:Since it is adopted into white culture. (Sorry for broken English)

'White culture' isn't a thing.

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Postby Whitemore » Fri Apr 16, 2021 8:59 am

Laka Strolistandiler wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Why would you knowingly continue to hold beliefs that you think are stupid and contradictory?

Because I am too afraid to drop them. Yes, I am that self aware.


At least you know they are stupid. I encourage you to meet more people who aren't white, it's eye opening. I had a racist cousin who decided to go to College in Virginia and now has an Asian girlfriend who he loves very much.
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Postby Laka Strolistandiler » Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:00 am

San Lumen wrote:
Laka Strolistandiler wrote:I have a problem because most of POCs are not really religious or conservative, therefore I am against interracial marriage as all. And also I am against it because I just dislike mixed-race people bruh.
My views can be quite stupid and contradictory from time to time.


Why do you dislike mixed race people? Who are you to tell people who they can marry? The current minority leader of the US Senate is married to an Asian woman as is the Governor of Maryland.

Why are you restoring to stereotypes?

Because of the way they behave and look. Yes, some of them (like our Russian great poet Pushkin or Duma-Father) were great people, but #1- they were quadroons, not mulatto and #2- these are simply exceptions that further prove the rule.
I have no problem with white and Asian (Chinese and Japanese, I generally dislike most Koreans and most of the SEA nations) races. My racism is mostly anti-black. And I’ve already said that I am more hateful or “black culture” rather than black people as a racial identity
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Postby Resilient Acceleration » Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:01 am

Islamic Holy Sites wrote:
Laka Strolistandiler wrote:I have a problem because most of POCs are not really religious or conservative, therefore I am against interracial marriage as all. And also I am against it because I just dislike mixed-race people bruh.
My views can be quite stupid and contradictory from time to time.

Who are you to set stereotypes?

To be fair, I don't actually care if someone fervently and personally hate Black people, or the Jews, or the LGBT, or people with a large nose, etc. What I do care is when said people pushes for real policies that actively deprives those groups they hated of an equal status, obstruct their chances at life, or maintain an objectively horrible status quo that does the same. Resulting in (1) actual and serious harms being committed upon a large amount of people due to a catastrophically idiotic and useless reasoning while (2) causing measurable economic loss and (3) fostering societal divisions that are basically asking for riots to erupt.
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Postby Islamic Holy Sites » Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:03 am

Laka Strolistandiler wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Why do you dislike mixed race people? Who are you to tell people who they can marry? The current minority leader of the US Senate is married to an Asian woman as is the Governor of Maryland.

Why are you restoring to stereotypes?

Because of the way they behave and look. Yes, some of them (like our Russian great poet Pushkin or Duma-Father) were great people, but #1- they were quadroons, not mulatto and #2- these are simply exceptions that further prove the rule.
I have no problem with white and Asian (Chinese and Japanese, I generally dislike most Koreans and most of the SEA nations) races. My racism is mostly anti-black. And I’ve already said that I am more hateful or “black culture” rather than black people as a racial identity

Why? What's wrong with black culture? The most important 'white' cultures are imported (e.g. Christianity).
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:03 am

Laka Strolistandiler wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Why do you dislike mixed race people? Who are you to tell people who they can marry? The current minority leader of the US Senate is married to an Asian woman as is the Governor of Maryland.

Why are you restoring to stereotypes?

Because of the way they behave and look. Yes, some of them (like our Russian great poet Pushkin or Duma-Father) were great people, but #1- they were quadroons, not mulatto and #2- these are simply exceptions that further prove the rule.
I have no problem with white and Asian (Chinese and Japanese, I generally dislike most Koreans and most of the SEA nations) races. My racism is mostly anti-black. And I’ve already said that I am more hateful or “black culture” rather than black people as a racial identity


Your being inherently contradictory. What behavior and culture are you referring too?

Korea isn't in Southeast Asia.
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Postby Whitemore » Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:04 am

Islamic Holy Sites wrote:
Laka Strolistandiler wrote:Because of the way they behave and look. Yes, some of them (like our Russian great poet Pushkin or Duma-Father) were great people, but #1- they were quadroons, not mulatto and #2- these are simply exceptions that further prove the rule.
I have no problem with white and Asian (Chinese and Japanese, I generally dislike most Koreans and most of the SEA nations) races. My racism is mostly anti-black. And I’ve already said that I am more hateful or “black culture” rather than black people as a racial identity

Why? What's wrong with black culture? The most important 'white' cultures are imported (e.g. Christianity).


He's probably talking about "Hood Culture" that has become famous due to Hollywood movies from the 1990s and early 2000s, that's the reasoning most racists I've encountered point to.
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Postby Insaanistan » Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:05 am

Laka Strolistandiler wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Why do you dislike mixed race people? Who are you to tell people who they can marry? The current minority leader of the US Senate is married to an Asian woman as is the Governor of Maryland.

Why are you restoring to stereotypes?

Because of the way they behave and look. Yes, some of them (like our Russian great poet Pushkin or Duma-Father) were great people, but #1- they were quadroons, not mulatto and #2- these are simply exceptions that further prove the rule.
I have no problem with white and Asian (Chinese and Japanese, I generally dislike most Koreans and most of the SEA nations) races. My racism is mostly anti-black. And I’ve already said that I am more hateful or “black culture” rather than black people as a racial identity

People like you are what Booker T. Washington meant when he said (and I’m relating this from memory, so the exact wording’s probably off):
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Postby Laka Strolistandiler » Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:06 am

Whitemore wrote:
Islamic Holy Sites wrote:Why? What's wrong with black culture? The most important 'white' cultures are imported (e.g. Christianity).


He's probably talking about "Hood Culture" that has become famous due to Hollywood movies from the 1990s and early 2000s, that's the reasoning most racists I've encountered point to.

Black culture is not limited to “hood culture”. I’m speaking of the general behavior of black people in US at all.
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Postby Islamic Holy Sites » Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:07 am

Laka Strolistandiler wrote:
Whitemore wrote:
He's probably talking about "Hood Culture" that has become famous due to Hollywood movies from the 1990s and early 2000s, that's the reasoning most racists I've encountered point to.

Black culture is not limited to “hood culture”. I’m speaking of the general behavior of black people in US at all.

What's wrong with it?
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Postby Western Fardelshufflestein » Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:07 am

Islamic Holy Sites wrote:
Laka Strolistandiler wrote:Because of the way they behave and look. Yes, some of them (like our Russian great poet Pushkin or Duma-Father) were great people, but #1- they were quadroons, not mulatto and #2- these are simply exceptions that further prove the rule.
I have no problem with white and Asian (Chinese and Japanese, I generally dislike most Koreans and most of the SEA nations) races. My racism is mostly anti-black. And I’ve already said that I am more hateful or “black culture” rather than black people as a racial identity

Why? What's wrong with black culture? The most important 'white' cultures are imported (e.g. Christianity).

Why is "white" in air quotes?

Christianity spread to Europe the way it did in the early because of the Roman Empire, and because of politics. And missions.
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Postby Whitemore » Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:07 am

Laka Strolistandiler wrote:
Whitemore wrote:
He's probably talking about "Hood Culture" that has become famous due to Hollywood movies from the 1990s and early 2000s, that's the reasoning most racists I've encountered point to.

Black culture is not limited to “hood culture”. I’m speaking of the general behavior of black people in US at all.


Can you give some examples then?
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:08 am

Laka Strolistandiler wrote:
Whitemore wrote:
He's probably talking about "Hood Culture" that has become famous due to Hollywood movies from the 1990s and early 2000s, that's the reasoning most racists I've encountered point to.

Black culture is not limited to “hood culture”. I’m speaking of the general behavior of black people in US at all.

what do you object to?

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Postby Laka Strolistandiler » Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:09 am

San Lumen wrote:
Laka Strolistandiler wrote:Because of the way they behave and look. Yes, some of them (like our Russian great poet Pushkin or Duma-Father) were great people, but #1- they were quadroons, not mulatto and #2- these are simply exceptions that further prove the rule.
I have no problem with white and Asian (Chinese and Japanese, I generally dislike most Koreans and most of the SEA nations) races. My racism is mostly anti-black. And I’ve already said that I am more hateful or “black culture” rather than black people as a racial identity


Your being inherently contradictory. What behavior and culture are you referring too?

Korea isn't in Southeast Asia.

I know, I pointed out that I dielike Koreans AND SEA nations.
I’m speaking social irresponsibility, individualism and, especially, a disrespect towards authority.
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Postby Nakena » Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:09 am

Laka Strolistandiler wrote:I’m speaking social irresponsibility, individualism and, especially, a disrespect towards authority.


All things nowadays widespread in most "white" nations.

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Postby Laka Strolistandiler » Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:11 am

Nakena wrote:
Laka Strolistandiler wrote:I’m speaking social irresponsibility, individualism and, especially, a disrespect towards authority.


All things nowadays widespread in most "white" nations.

Yes, because of multiculturalism and neoliberalism.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:11 am

Laka Strolistandiler wrote:
Nakena wrote:
All things nowadays widespread in most "white" nations.

Yes, because of multiculturalism and neoliberalism.


what does multiculturalism have to do with it?

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Postby Islamic Holy Sites » Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:11 am

Laka Strolistandiler wrote:
Nakena wrote:
All things nowadays widespread in most "white" nations.

Yes, because of multiculturalism and neoliberalism.

Proof would be great, thanks.
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:13 am

Laka Strolistandiler wrote:
Nakena wrote:
All things nowadays widespread in most "white" nations.

Yes, because of multiculturalism and neoliberalism.

This is hilariously ignorant of history.
Western nations are relatively individualist because of influences of the Enlightenment and the French and American revolutions.
Seriously where is this idea of Western individualism coming from Asia even come from?

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Postby Rusozak » Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:13 am

Laka Strolistandiler wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
I could care less what my children look like or what religion someone practices. Ive dated non white guys in the past. Does that make me a race traitor?

You therefore hate yourself?

If I answer that question it may result in me getting banned for personal offense. You asked why that matters to me and I answered your question. I don’t want for my children to look like me.
Yes, I do hate myself. And?


I don't get it. Are you doing a bit? Is this some kind of Uncle Ruckus roleplay? There's no logic to your train of thought, even in the context of white supremacy, and that's saying something.
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Postby Laka Strolistandiler » Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:13 am

San Lumen wrote:
Laka Strolistandiler wrote:Yes, because of multiculturalism and neoliberalism.


what does multiculturalism have to do with it?

Importing other culture’s values and mixing ‘em up that is.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:14 am

Laka Strolistandiler wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
what does multiculturalism have to do with it?

Importing other culture’s values and mixing ‘em up that is.


who cares? Why does it matter?

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Postby Genivaria » Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:14 am

Laka Strolistandiler wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
what does multiculturalism have to do with it?

Importing other culture’s values and mixing ‘em up that is.

Except that individualism is a WESTERN VALUE.
Has been for at least the last, what, 600 years?

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Postby Laka Strolistandiler » Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:14 am

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I am not a Russian but a Cameroonian born in this POS.
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Pronouns up to your choice I can be a girl if I want to so refer to me as she/her.
I reserve the right to /stillme any one-liners if my post is at least two lines long

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