White Supremacy discussion thread

[Fahran]

He's a waterlemon: yellow on the outside (libright), blue on the inside (authright)

What watermelons are you eating exactly?

[National Capitalist United States]

He's a waterlemon: yellow on the outside (libright), blue on the inside (authright)

What watermelons are you eating exactly?

it's a r/politicalcompassmemes term

Watermelon is also a term: green on the outside (libleft), red on the inside (authleft).

[Kowani]

He's a waterlemon: yellow on the outside (libright), blue on the inside (authright)

What watermelons are you eating exactly?

mixed-race melons, duh

[Atheris]

What watermelons are you eating exactly?

mixed-race melons, duh

i thought race was a concept

/s

[Zurkir]

mixed-race melons, duh

i thought race was a concept

/s

It’s a reality when it can be exploited for agenda purposes. Any other time, ‘race does not exist’.

[Fahran]

It’s a reality when it can be exploited for agenda purposes. Any other time, ‘race does not exist’.

I don't think anyone credible argues that "race does not exist." It certainly exists as a concept, as an identity, and as a social construct.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

It’s a reality when it can be exploited for agenda purposes. Any other time, ‘race does not exist’.

I don't think anyone credible argues that "race does not exist." It certainly exists as a concept, as an identity, and as a social construct.

Race exists in the same way Arthur Reed exists.

[Zurkir]

It’s a reality when it can be exploited for agenda purposes. Any other time, ‘race does not exist’.

I don't think anyone credible argues that "race does not exist." It certainly exists as a concept, as an identity, and as a social construct.

Anyone who actually keeps their eyes and ears open can just poke around here and see a few of the same people who say “race this” and “race that” carrying on about “race is just a concept” or “the concept of race is a mechanism of oppression and otherwise isn’t a thing”.

[New haven america]

It’s a reality when it can be exploited for agenda purposes. Any other time, ‘race does not exist’.

I don't think anyone credible argues that "race does not exist." It certainly exists as a concept, as an identity, and as a social construct.

Here I am to ruin your day!

Race as we know it doesn't exist. What humans consider to be "Race" is actually a completely different biological phenomena, polymorphism. Race in biology otoh, denotes a subspecies.

So no, humans have no race, it does not exist within humanity. We killed the others off and/or interbred with them ~200,000-400,000 years ago.

[Atheris]

I don't think anyone credible argues that "race does not exist." It certainly exists as a concept, as an identity, and as a social construct.

Race exists in the same way Arthur Reed exists.

You mean the soccer player? The other soccer player? The Tory? The RAF officer?

Could've used a better name.

[Fahran]

Anyone who actually keeps their eyes and ears open can just poke around here and see a few of the same people who say “race this” and “race that” carrying on about “race is just a concept” or “the concept of race is a mechanism of oppression and otherwise isn’t a thing”.

It's bold of you to assume people on NSG are credible, but race can be all of the things I described as well as a mechanism of oppression. They're not really mutually exclusive.

[Zurkir]

I don't think anyone credible argues that "race does not exist." It certainly exists as a concept, as an identity, and as a social construct.

Here I am to ruin your day!

Race as we know it doesn't exist. What humans consider to be "Race" is actually a completely different biological phenomena, polymorphism. Race in biology otoh, denotes a subspecies.

So no, humans have no race, it does not exist within humanity. We killed the others off and/or interbred with them ~200,000-400,000 years ago.

Even though I disagree with you, thank you for your timely appearance!

[Fahran]

Here I am to ruin your day!

Race as we know it doesn't exist. What humans consider to be "Race" is actually a completely different biological phenomena, polymorphism. Race in biology otoh, denotes a subspecies.

So no, humans have no race, it does not exist within humanity. We killed the others off and/or interbred with them ~200,000-400,000 years ago.

I never claimed race was a biological reality.

So you're not actually contradicting anything I've said.

[The Emerald Legion]

Anyone who actually keeps their eyes and ears open can just poke around here and see a few of the same people who say “race this” and “race that” carrying on about “race is just a concept” or “the concept of race is a mechanism of oppression and otherwise isn’t a thing”.

It's bold of you to assume people on NSG are credible, but race can be all of the things I described as well as a mechanism of oppression. They're not really mutually exclusive.

I mean, I post here. That probably reduces the credibility of the whole forum by about 30% at least.

[Kowani]

I don't think anyone credible argues that "race does not exist." It certainly exists as a concept, as an identity, and as a social construct.

Anyone who actually keeps their eyes and ears open can just poke around here and see a few of the same people who say “race this” and “race that” carrying on about “race is just a concept” or “the concept of race is a mechanism of oppression and otherwise isn’t a thing”.

how do you not get this
this is not a hard bar to clear
race is a social construction not rooted in biology
that's not really up for debate, that's the consensus of...every relevant discipline
however, race as a social construct is deeply intertwined with societal outcomes and functioning
there's no contradiction there unless you're looking for there to be

[Zurkir]

Anyone who actually keeps their eyes and ears open can just poke around here and see a few of the same people who say “race this” and “race that” carrying on about “race is just a concept” or “the concept of race is a mechanism of oppression and otherwise isn’t a thing”.

It's bold of you to assume people on NSG are credible, but race can be all of the things I described as well as a mechanism of oppression. They're not really mutually exclusive.

Hmm, my mistake. I literally overlooked the “credible”.

Either way though, credibility aside, “race doesn’t exist” is a common pro-left stance and even among many centrists.

[Zurkir]

Anyone who actually keeps their eyes and ears open can just poke around here and see a few of the same people who say “race this” and “race that” carrying on about “race is just a concept” or “the concept of race is a mechanism of oppression and otherwise isn’t a thing”.

how do you not get this
this is not a hard bar to clear
race is a social construction not rooted in biology
that's not really up for debate, that's the consensus of...every relevant discipline
however, race as a social construct is deeply intertwined with societal outcomes and functioning
there's no contradiction there unless you're looking for there to be

Race exists. Get rekt.

[Atheris]

how do you not get this
this is not a hard bar to clear
race is a social construction not rooted in biology
that's not really up for debate, that's the consensus of...every relevant discipline
however, race as a social construct is deeply intertwined with societal outcomes and functioning
there's no contradiction there unless you're looking for there to be

Race exists. Get rekt.

Prove it.

[Fahran]

Race exists in the same way Arthur Reed exists.

You mean the soccer player? The other soccer player? The Tory? The RAF officer?

Could've used a better name.

I was trying to cobble together a joke about English football and racism after a quick Google search.

[New haven america]

Here I am to ruin your day!

Race as we know it doesn't exist. What humans consider to be "Race" is actually a completely different biological phenomena, polymorphism. Race in biology otoh, denotes a subspecies.

So no, humans have no race, it does not exist within humanity. We killed the others off and/or interbred with them ~200,000-400,000 years ago.

I never claimed race was a biological reality.

So you're not actually contradicting anything I've said.

Nope, I am.

Race doesn't exist within humanity.

[Fahran]

Either way though, credibility aside, “race doesn’t exist” is a common pro-left stance and even among many centrists.

And even a little bit of reflection on the role race and racism play in determining social outcomes, access to social institutions, and social hierarchies would demonstrate the obvious falsehood of that stance. Race, as a social construct, has an impact on our society at present. That's a significant part of the problem.

[Zurkir]

Race exists. Get rekt.

Prove it.

As a species humanity is one. But we have different racial groups.

[Fahran]

Nope, I am.

Race doesn't exist within humanity.

Does it exist in society? As either a social construct, a concept, or an identity?

[Fahran]

As a species humanity is one. But we have different racial groups.

Which are socially constructed based on mostly superficial and illogical categorizations of people into groups where individual members often have more in common with members of other such groups than those within their own assigned group. In short, race isn't a biological reality. It's a social construct or identity.

[New haven america]

Here I am to ruin your day!

Race as we know it doesn't exist. What humans consider to be "Race" is actually a completely different biological phenomena, polymorphism. Race in biology otoh, denotes a subspecies.

So no, humans have no race, it does not exist within humanity. We killed the others off and/or interbred with them ~200,000-400,000 years ago.

Even though I disagree with you, thank you for your timely appearance!

There's nothing to disagree with me with.

"Race" as humans think about it (Or Sociological Race, Soc Race for short), is Polymorphism. Polymorphism are small variations within a species that makes it easier to live in their chosen biomes or just minor physical differences in general that makes member of a species look different. Jaguars and Panthers for example, are not different species, they're the same and they interbreed all the time making mixed light fur/dark fur litters. The only difference between them is their polymorphic fur/skin color. The only reason Soc Race is a thing is because humans are dumb.

Bio Race, you know, the actually scientifically accepted definition of race, denotes a subspecies. Humanity's last race, The Neanderthals, died out hundreds of thousands of years ago. So no, humans have no race, we are a biological loner branch on the tree of life.