White Supremacy discussion thread

[East Blepia]

What is true, though, is that Hispanics (almost of all of whom having mixed to some degree with Indians), Middle Easterners, and Africans are generally less intelligent than Whites, and that our replacement by these races will lead to the deterioration of our societies.

*sigh* Really?

*** East Blepia, 1-day ban for trolling. ***

I do not see how this could be interpreted as trolling.

[Nevertopia]

see? THIS is why you debate against racism, fascism and all the ignorances, it EXPOSES them for what they are and are destroyed by their own stupidity. This is how you dismantle idiotic ideologies like White supremacy. With Free Speech.

I remember when I used to think like you. Then I saw how fascism truly spreads and operates, how utterly ineffective your tactic is.

oh cool, how far did you get into your political sciences studies in university?

[Nevertopia]

Skin color is the least consequential trait that humans have. Only boring people care so much about skin color that they would actually change the way they treat people based on it.

Skin color is arguably the most consequential trait humans have, in that it determines what an individual or larger grouping looks like. As for discrimination, everyone arguably does so to varying extents. It comes down to a simple matter of biases that different people have for any number of reasons.

based on what study?

[Orostan]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_F ... _War_II%29

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifaschistische_Aktion

Yet in all its failings, Id rather live in a democratic nation than a fascist one.

>better exterminated by the fascists under a 'democratic' flag than win under a red flag

Are you for real?

Skin color is the least consequential trait that humans have. Only boring people care so much about skin color that they would actually change the way they treat people based on it.

Skin color is arguably the most consequential trait humans have, in that it determines what an individual or larger grouping looks like. As for discrimination, everyone arguably does so to varying extents. It comes down to a simple matter of biases that different people have for any number of reasons.

I could make the same argument for hair color or eye color. Skin color is absolutely arbitrary and only stands out because humans have a lot of skin. It's invention as a key part of what people perceive race to be is relatively recent.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Skin color is the least consequential trait that humans have. Only boring people care so much about skin color that they would actually change the way they treat people based on it.

Skin color is arguably the most consequential trait humans have.

It's really not. My best friend is a black guy, and the guy I hate the most is a Mexican.

[Nevertopia]

Yet in all its failings, Id rather live in a democratic nation than a fascist one.

>better exterminated by the fascists under a 'democratic' flag than win under a red flag

Are you for real?

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youre arguing in bad faith. Thats literally not what I said.

[Orostan]

>better exterminated by the fascists under a 'democratic' flag than win under a red flag

Are you for real?



I could make the same argument for hair color or eye color. Skin color is absolutely arbitrary and only stands out because humans have a lot of skin. It's invention as a key part of what people perceive race to be is relatively recent.

Depends, was that my argument or is that what you want it to be?

What are you arguing? Do actually oppose fascism or not? You implied that you would rather live in a 'democratic' state that failed to oppose fascism than a socialist state that succeeded.

[Nevertopia]

Depends, was that my argument or is that what you want it to be?

What are you arguing? Do actually oppose fascism or not? You implied that you would rather live in a 'democratic' state that failed to oppose fascism than a socialist state that succeeded.

wtf is wrong with you? I never said that.

[East Blepia]

Skin color is arguably the most consequential trait humans have, in that it determines what an individual or larger grouping looks like. As for discrimination, everyone arguably does so to varying extents. It comes down to a simple matter of biases that different people have for any number of reasons.

based on what study?

Well, here is one rather inconvenient fact.

[Grenartia]

You said, as if I''m opposed to free speech.



Just as often, democracy is the enabler of fascism. I'll remind you that Hitler came into power not through revolution, but the ballot.

Imagine if the allies at the time were also fascists.

Considering how quickly the West accepted the Nazis rebranding themselves as 'freedom-loving militant anticommunists' during the post-war era, the case could be made that one wouldn't have to imagine that.

You point of democracy's failure but not how its succeeded in spite of Nazi Germany coming into power in the rest of the world.

The success was primarily due to the West's overwhelming industrial capacity and access to resources, and the Soviet Union's zerg tactics. There was nothing inherent to democracy in that victory.

I remember when I used to think like you. Then I saw how fascism truly spreads and operates, how utterly ineffective your tactic is.

Are you saying that because we cannot be 'destroyed by our own stupidity', as you say, that we must be censored?

Nope. I'm convinced you can be metaphorically crushed without resorting to your own methods.

[San Lumen]

based on what study?

Well, here is one rather inconvenient fact.

What's your point? Do you have an issue with non white people being elected to office in majority white areas?

[Grenartia]

Skin color is the least consequential trait that humans have. Only boring people care so much about skin color that they would actually change the way they treat people based on it.

Skin color is arguably the most consequential trait humans have, in that it determines what an individual or larger grouping looks like.

Lol, like that even fucking matters.

As for discrimination, everyone arguably does so to varying extents. It comes down to a simple matter of biases that different people have for any number of reasons.

Social discrimination against Nazis is not only legal, but based, and the only way to be a truly good person.

[East Blepia]

Well, here is one rather inconvenient fact.

What's your point? Do you have an issue with non white people being elected to office in majority white areas?

What has that got to do with it?

[Nevertopia]

based on what study?

Well, here is one rather inconvenient fact.

Yes the affects of racism is bad. I suppose that does say something about how being a certain colour affects your life experiences but those are systemic problems and isn't a case for white supremacy.

[San Lumen]

What's your point? Do you have an issue with non white people being elected to office in majority white areas?

What has that got to do with it?

Im inquiring as to your views.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

based on what study?

Well, here is one rather inconvenient fact.

Oh look, the legacy of people with your views has set black America back in building generational wealth.

[Nevertopia]

Imagine if the allies at the time were also fascists.

Considering how quickly the West accepted the Nazis rebranding themselves as 'freedom-loving militant anticommunists' during the post-war era, the case could be made that one wouldn't have to imagine that.

You point of democracy's failure but not how its succeeded in spite of Nazi Germany coming into power in the rest of the world.

The success was primarily due to the West's overwhelming industrial capacity and access to resources, and the Soviet Union's zerg tactics. There was nothing inherent to democracy in that victory.

Are you saying that because we cannot be 'destroyed by our own stupidity', as you say, that we must be censored?

Nope. I'm convinced you can be metaphorically crushed without resorting to your own methods.

well then would you rather live in a democratic country or a fascist country?

[Grenartia]

The "why" is irrelevant. All you'll get out of him on that front is dogwhistling about IQ and crime, or vague appeals to "sken culler".

sources? citations? reasoning? Please, construct a proper argument, this is important.

Prior experience. This shit happens like clockwork.

based on what study?

Well, here is one rather inconvenient fact.

I fucking called it.

I remember when I used to think like you. Then I saw how fascism truly spreads and operates, how utterly ineffective your tactic is.

oh cool, how far did you get into your political sciences studies in university?

I learned it from real life, the school of hard knocks.

Political "science" isn't a real science, sorry.

Yes the affects of racism is bad. I suppose that does say something about how being a certain colour affects your life experiences but those are systemic problems and isn't a case for white supremacy.

You say that like it'll suddenly change his mind and he'll magically stop being a Nazi because of it.

[Orostan]

What are you arguing? Do actually oppose fascism or not? You implied that you would rather live in a 'democratic' state that failed to oppose fascism than a socialist state that succeeded.

wtf is wrong with you? I never said that.

My bad, I saw you had put that line in my quote after you posted and assumed you had meant to write that as your response to me.

>better exterminated by the fascists under a 'democratic' flag than win under a red flag

Are you for real?

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youre arguing in bad faith. Thats literally not what I said.

then what did you say?

[Grenartia]

Considering how quickly the West accepted the Nazis rebranding themselves as 'freedom-loving militant anticommunists' during the post-war era, the case could be made that one wouldn't have to imagine that.



The success was primarily due to the West's overwhelming industrial capacity and access to resources, and the Soviet Union's zerg tactics. There was nothing inherent to democracy in that victory.



Nope. I'm convinced you can be metaphorically crushed without resorting to your own methods.

well then would you rather live in a democratic country or a fascist country?

Clearly a democratic one. Why do you even have to ask?

[Nevertopia]

sources? citations? reasoning? Please, construct a proper argument, this is important.

Prior experience. This shit happens like clockwork.

Well, here is one rather inconvenient fact.
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I fucking called it.

oh cool, how far did you get into your political sciences studies in university?

I learned it from real life, the school of hard knocks.

Political "science" isn't a real science, sorry.

Yes the affects of racism is bad. I suppose that does say something about how being a certain colour affects your life experiences but those are systemic problems and isn't a case for white supremacy.

You say that like it'll suddenly change his mind and he'll magically stop being a Nazi because of it.

see how open dialogue has exposed the stupidity of white supremacy? This is how you dismantle ignorance, not with bombs but with free speech.

well then would you rather live in a democratic country or a fascist country?

Clearly a democratic one. Why do you even have to ask?

Because in the end, in spite of all its short-comings, democracy is currently our best form of governance and anything short of that has proven to be drastically worse. Yes democracy opens the door for people like Hitler to be elected into power, but fascism doesnt care who you vote for and it starts and ends at the barrel of a gun.

[Orostan]

Prior experience. This shit happens like clockwork.

I fucking called it.



I learned it from real life, the school of hard knocks.

Political "science" isn't a real science, sorry.



You say that like it'll suddenly change his mind and he'll magically stop being a Nazi because of it.

see how open dialogue has exposed the stupidity of white supremacy? This is how you dismantle ignorance, not with bombs but with free speech.

Everyone knew they were stupid already. Fascism isn't a question of ignorance, it doesn't take power because people just don't know that racism is bad.

[Nevertopia]

see how open dialogue has exposed the stupidity of white supremacy? This is how you dismantle ignorance, not with bombs but with free speech.

Everyone knew they were stupid already. Fascism isn't a question of ignorance, it doesn't take power because people just don't know that racism is bad.

You underestimate the stupidity of fascism.

[Orostan]

Everyone knew they were stupid already. Fascism isn't a question of ignorance, it doesn't take power because people just don't know that racism is bad.

You underestimate the stupidity of fascism.

No, I don't. Fascists almost destroyed the world in WWII - you don't do that without having a few brain cells.

[Neu California]

*sigh* Really?

*** East Blepia, 1-day ban for trolling. ***

I do not see how this could be interpreted as trolling.

From the One-Stop Rules Shop

Trolling/Baiting/Gloating: Trolling is defined as posts that are made with the aim of angering people. (like 'ALL JEWS ARE [insert vile comment here]' for example). Someone disagreeing with you does not equate to trolling. Intent is incredibly important and will be judged by the moderators to the best of their abilities. Honest belief does not excuse trolling. Disagreements are expected and conducting yourself in a civil manner is ideal. Trollbaiting is the action of making posts that attract trolls. A prime example of trollbaiting would be gloating over the results of an election.

Saying that certain races are less intelligent and will lead to the deterioration as they "replace" us (a bullshit conspiracy theory, IMO) is pretty much a classic (if slightly broader) case of the bolded in the trolling rule.