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Do you think white supermascists should be able to express their views?

Yes
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No
484
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Depends
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:19 am

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The Reformed American Republic wrote:They aren't as bad as literal Nazis, but that's not really a high bar, not is it?


I mean, the point was whether or not they're worse than Nazis, so I don't really get your question.

These progressives aren't as bad as actual Nazis, but since Nazism is rock bottom, that doesn't really mean much.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:31 am

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You're missing the point.

Town v. City is not the topic.


White supremacy is more common in rural areas though. So it can be related.


Can attest to that. While I lived in rural AR I saw some crap that left me spooked. Going to a town with white supremacist billboards was a shocker. They were eventually removed but if you Google Harrison AR white supremacy billboards, you may still find photos people took of them. It was scary.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:10 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
White supremacy is more common in rural areas though. So it can be related.


Can attest to that. While I lived in rural AR I saw some crap that left me spooked. Going to a town with white supremacist billboards was a shocker. They were eventually removed but if you Google Harrison AR white supremacy billboards, you may still find photos people took of them. It was scary.

I've read about that, though I think that pretty much anyone with enough money can have a billboard and get it to say anything really.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:18 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
White supremacy is more common in rural areas though. So it can be related.


Can attest to that. While I lived in rural AR I saw some crap that left me spooked. Going to a town with white supremacist billboards was a shocker. They were eventually removed but if you Google Harrison AR white supremacy billboards, you may still find photos people took of them. It was scary.


I imagine you didn't stay long.
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Postby Kubra » Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:13 am

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Can attest to that. While I lived in rural AR I saw some crap that left me spooked. Going to a town with white supremacist billboards was a shocker. They were eventually removed but if you Google Harrison AR white supremacy billboards, you may still find photos people took of them. It was scary.

I've read about that, though I think that pretty much anyone with enough money can have a billboard and get it to say anything really.
and if they can't have a billboard they can plaster a rusting semi trailer
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:46 am

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The Reformed American Republic wrote:I've read about that, though I think that pretty much anyone with enough money can have a billboard and get it to say anything really.
and if they can't have a billboard they can plaster a rusting semi trailer

Indeed. I would say the outright Nazis are still fringe. They thought Trump would make them tolerable to the mainstream, but he did not. Things would have to really go bad for there to be an outright Nazi takeover here.
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Postby Nakena » Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:47 am

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Kubra wrote: and if they can't have a billboard they can plaster a rusting semi trailer

Indeed. I would say the outright Nazis are still fringe. They thought Trump would make them tolerable to the mainstream, but he did not. Things would have to really go bad for there to be an outright Nazi takeover here.


Yes, that is why Charlottesville did fail so much on them. Nobody wants to be associated with that fringe.

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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:11 am

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The Reformed American Republic wrote:Indeed. I would say the outright Nazis are still fringe. They thought Trump would make them tolerable to the mainstream, but he did not. Things would have to really go bad for there to be an outright Nazi takeover here.


Yes, that is why Charlottesville did fail so much on them. Nobody wants to be associated with that fringe.

I mean, what can "rehabilitate" Nazism in the eyes of the public? The Holocaust is a pretty big obstacle, and rightfully so, and denying it isn't going to win my heart or mind.
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Postby Birchland and the NAF » Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:13 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
White supremacy is more common in rural areas though. So it can be related.


Can attest to that. While I lived in rural AR I saw some crap that left me spooked. Going to a town with white supremacist billboards was a shocker. They were eventually removed but if you Google Harrison AR white supremacy billboards, you may still find photos people took of them. It was scary.

Haha, they have crosses on them, an ode to a SEMITIC religion. That’s funny, not scary. I can’t take Christian “pro-white” types seriously. Even Islam is far superior, Hitler acknowledged that. Virgin obese pastor vs chad IS tank hunter.
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Postby Nakena » Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:19 am

The Reformed American Republic wrote:I mean, what can "rehabilitate" Nazism in the eyes of the public? The Holocaust is a pretty big obstacle, and rightfully so, and denying it isn't going to win my heart or mind.


Basically the idea of those is that they have a wider support than it seems and that some day white people will wake up and flock to them or what not. But I doubt their scenario is going to happen. They lack the appeal for that. Even QAnon has more followers than them.

If nazism ever returns, theres a fair chance it will happen in the US in this century but it will be in different ways and conditions than what those people envision. I wrote already about this before, but its almost a separate story.
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:36 am

Nakena wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:I mean, what can "rehabilitate" Nazism in the eyes of the public? The Holocaust is a pretty big obstacle, and rightfully so, and denying it isn't going to win my heart or mind.


Basically the idea of those is that they have a wider support than it seems and that some day white people will wake up and flock to them or what not. But I doubt their scenario is going to happen. They lack the appeal for that. Even QAnon has more followers than them.

If nazism ever returns, theres a fair chance it will happen in the US in this century but it will be in different ways and conditions than what those people envision. I wrote already about this before, but its almost a separate story.


If the Turner Diaries is anything to go by, even their good endings suck I.e. death of most of the worlds population via nuclear holocaust (pun not intended).
If it or white supremacy wins, then prepare to say goodbye to 95% of the global population at best.
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Postby Nakena » Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:45 am

Birchland and the NAF wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Can attest to that. While I lived in rural AR I saw some crap that left me spooked. Going to a town with white supremacist billboards was a shocker. They were eventually removed but if you Google Harrison AR white supremacy billboards, you may still find photos people took of them. It was scary.

Haha, they have crosses on them, an ode to a SEMITIC religion. That’s funny, not scary. I can’t take Christian “pro-white” types seriously. Even Islam is far superior, Hitler acknowledged that. Virgin obese pastor vs chad IS tank hunter.


Yes he actually did found it to be superior. But its still semitic for that matter.

Don't be this guy.

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Nakena wrote:
Basically the idea of those is that they have a wider support than it seems and that some day white people will wake up and flock to them or what not. But I doubt their scenario is going to happen. They lack the appeal for that. Even QAnon has more followers than them.

If nazism ever returns, theres a fair chance it will happen in the US in this century but it will be in different ways and conditions than what those people envision. I wrote already about this before, but its almost a separate story.


If the Turner Diaries is anything to go by, even their good endings suck I.e. death of most of the worlds population via nuclear holocaust (pun not intended).
If it or white supremacy wins, then prepare to say goodbye to 95% of the global population at best.


Not everyone is full on that Turner/Siege train. In fact thats a small and very extreme minority, that is fundamentally contrarian in nature.

The majority of moderate White Nationalists implicitly want the US would become something like sort of a 1950s timecapsule whitetopia with white only immigration.

Some prefer as well to split of some non-white parts of the US or create an own white ethnostate and or homeland for the black population and such.

In the end it's a very isolationist and self-separatist whitetopian ideology.
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Postby Birchland and the NAF » Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:47 am

Nakena wrote:
Birchland and the NAF wrote:Haha, they have crosses on them, an ode to a SEMITIC religion. That’s funny, not scary. I can’t take Christian “pro-white” types seriously. Even Islam is far superior, Hitler acknowledged that. Virgin obese pastor vs chad IS tank hunter.


Yes he actually did found it to be superior. But its still semitic for that matter.

Don't be this guy.

New yugoslavaia wrote:
If the Turner Diaries is anything to go by, even their good endings suck I.e. death of most of the worlds population via nuclear holocaust (pun not intended).
If it or white supremacy wins, then prepare to say goodbye to 95% of the global population at best.


Not everyone is full on that Turner/Siege train. In fact thats a small and very extreme minority, that is fundamentally contrarian in nature.

The majority of moderate White Nationalists want the US would become something like a 1950s timecapsule whitetopia with white only immigration. Some prefer as well to split of some non-white parts of the US or create an own white ethnostate and or homeland for the black population and such.

In the end it's a very isolationist and self-separatist whitetopian ideology.

It is, but it’s the best Semitic religion by leagues.
Then I’m more of a nihilist than whitenat. That 50s time capsule ideology is pathetic. I’ve already said I want 95% or more gone, but I can’t get into that without getting deleted.
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Postby Nakena » Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:02 am

Birchland and the NAF wrote:It is, but it’s the best Semitic religion by leagues.


No. You judge it purely by it's supposed martial values and outer forms. It's the same by some LARPer getting into catholicism because he likes gothic cathedrals or crusaders. Or same for orthodox because byzantines or "based russia" or some nonsense like that. Theres plenty of examples of it.

In either case people ignore the core of what those religions and faiths are about. They aren't about crusades or some stuff like that. That are outer expressions. Means to an end, and not an end itself. And the end is always the worship of what is very likely the same deity or different interpretations and takes thereof.

Islam in particular, is very clear about that, that it considers itself to be the updated and fixed version of previous relevations (Abrahamic tradition; Judaisim and Christianity) who according to Islam but had the stuff somewhat wrong about the their monotheist god (Yaweh) and were flawed and incomplete.

So if you were to convert to Islam, you would, specifically from islamic perspective, worship the same god that also the jews or christians do.

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Postby Suriyanakhon » Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:04 am

Nakena wrote:So if you were to convert to Islam, you would, specifically from islamic perspective, worship the same god that also the jews or christians do.


You would also have to reject racism and consider yourself a member of the multi-racial ummah.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:05 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Can attest to that. While I lived in rural AR I saw some crap that left me spooked. Going to a town with white supremacist billboards was a shocker. They were eventually removed but if you Google Harrison AR white supremacy billboards, you may still find photos people took of them. It was scary.


I imagine you didn't stay long.


We never stayed long, yes. Harrison is also where the KKK has one of its HQs in AR. Although, I never saw them rallying or anything. Thankfully.
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Postby Birchland and the NAF » Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:07 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
I imagine you didn't stay long.


We never stayed long, yes. Harrison is also where the KKK has one of its HQs in AR. Although, I never saw them rallying or anything. Thankfully.

Why is it so frightening? You don’t need to talk to them if you don’t agree with them.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:08 am

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Can attest to that. While I lived in rural AR I saw some crap that left me spooked. Going to a town with white supremacist billboards was a shocker. They were eventually removed but if you Google Harrison AR white supremacy billboards, you may still find photos people took of them. It was scary.

I've read about that, though I think that pretty much anyone with enough money can have a billboard and get it to say anything really.


No doubt. That being said, when you’ve never lived in the South, come from a different country and speak Spanish as one of your main languages, like I do, and come across billboards like that (last I heard they still had one for a Whites only Christian radio station), it sets your teeth on edge.
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Postby Birchland and the NAF » Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:09 am

Nakena wrote:
Birchland and the NAF wrote:It is, but it’s the best Semitic religion by leagues.


No. You judge it purely by it's supposed martial values and outer forms. It's the same by some LARPer getting into catholicism because he likes gothic cathedrals or crusaders. Or same for orthodox because byzantines or "based russia" or some nonsense like that. Theres plenty of examples of it.

In either case people ignore the core of what those religions and faiths are about. They aren't about crusades or some stuff like that. That are outer expressions. Means to an end, and not an end itself. And the end is always the worship of what is very likely the same deity or different interpretations and takes thereof.

Islam in particular, is very clear about that, that it considers itself to be the updated and fixed version of previous relevations (Abrahamic tradition; Judaisim and Christianity) who according to Islam but had the stuff somewhat wrong about the their monotheist god (Yaweh) and were flawed and incomplete.

So if you were to convert to Islam, you would, specifically from islamic perspective, worship the same god that also the jews or christians do.

I go by what I seen in al-Hayat videos. Looks pretty chad compared to American Christianity. Though I am a sucker for guns, explosions and gore.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:12 am

Suriyanakhon wrote:
Nakena wrote:So if you were to convert to Islam, you would, specifically from islamic perspective, worship the same god that also the jews or christians do.


You would also have to reject racism and consider yourself a member of the multi-racial ummah.

There is racism in the middle east by Muslims. Being Muslim doesn't mean one is not a racist.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:18 am

These are some of the billboards I saw. The only one still up, as of December 2020, is the White radio one.

Note: if this can make you uncomfortable, don’t look.

https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2014/0 ... c86ef2.jpg
https://d1i4t8bqe7zgj6.cloudfront.net/0 ... scaled.jpg
https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/a ... kansas.jpg
https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-stati ... -pos-x=167
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Postby Birchland and the NAF » Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:22 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:These are some of the billboards I saw. The only one still up, as of December 2020, is the White radio one.

Note: if this can make you uncomfortable, don’t look.

https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2014/0 ... c86ef2.jpg
https://d1i4t8bqe7zgj6.cloudfront.net/0 ... scaled.jpg
https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/a ... kansas.jpg
https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-stati ... -pos-x=167

I got PTSD. Unironically though, those are mainstream. You should look up Dark Foreigner or Superbnocturnal on DeviantArt.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:26 am

Birchland and the NAF wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:These are some of the billboards I saw. The only one still up, as of December 2020, is the White radio one.

Note: if this can make you uncomfortable, don’t look.

https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2014/0 ... c86ef2.jpg
https://d1i4t8bqe7zgj6.cloudfront.net/0 ... scaled.jpg
https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/a ... kansas.jpg
https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-stati ... -pos-x=167

I got PTSD. Unironically though, those are mainstream. You should look up Dark Foreigner or Superbnocturnal on DeviantArt.


I’ll pass, thanks. Diversity is something I prefer. One of the many reasons I moved out from rural AR.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:26 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:These are some of the billboards I saw. The only one still up, as of December 2020, is the White radio one.

Note: if this can make you uncomfortable, don’t look.

https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2014/0 ... c86ef2.jpg
https://d1i4t8bqe7zgj6.cloudfront.net/0 ... scaled.jpg
https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/a ... kansas.jpg
https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-stati ... -pos-x=167

I'm desensitized, because I have seen so much worse on the internet, and even on this very site before the mods cleaned it up.
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