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by Alternate South Africa » Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:04 pm
by Heloin » Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:17 pm
Alternate South Africa wrote:It is associated with Apartheid, but from my historical research, it was actually created before Apartheid became a thing.
by Alternate South Africa » Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:20 pm
Heloin wrote:The South Africa of the 1920s was just as racist as the South Africa of the 1950s. The the flag was created by British Imperialists in Africa, who left a legacy of white supremacy and racism up and down the continent.
by Trollzyn the Infinite » Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:30 pm
Sharania wrote:Fascinating how people get more upset about poc using the term “white supremacy” than they do about actual white supremacy.
by Heloin » Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:33 pm
Alternate South Africa wrote:Heloin wrote:The South Africa of the 1920s was just as racist as the South Africa of the 1950s. The the flag was created by British Imperialists in Africa, who left a legacy of white supremacy and racism up and down the continent.
In what example were they racist before apartheid? I'm not arguing with you, I'm just curious.
by Dejado Atras » Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:35 pm
Sharania wrote:Fascinating how people get more upset about poc using the term “white supremacy” than they do about actual white supremacy.
by Alternate South Africa » Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:47 pm
Heloin wrote:Pass laws (badges and other such items that black men would be required to carry or wear) have existed since the days of Company rule under the dutch, and continued to be expanded and refined up until the end of Apartheid. Segregation had existed since the first stones were placed for the Castle with whites, blacks, coloureds, and the newly arriving Malay forced to live in seperate spaces that would also continue to expand into laws until formalised in 1948 with the creation of the system of Apartheid. Apartheid was an awful and horrific system, but it's roots trace back to the arrival of Europeans in South Africa and it's more formalised wording taken from other colonies like Kenya and Rhodesia.
If you want a good read on those roots I actually have reading material to suggest, Marq De Villiers White Tribe Dreaming.
by Fahran » Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:55 pm
Dejado Atras wrote:Anglo-Saxon is also on the list now too, I heard.
by Dejado Atras » Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:57 pm
Fahran wrote:Dejado Atras wrote:Anglo-Saxon is also on the list now too, I heard.
The term "Anglo-Saxon" is somewhat useful for historical discussions of pre-Norman England, and, really, I would prefer we not engage in that level of erasure simply because the terms has acquired a lot of unsavory connotations.
by Nakena » Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:03 pm
Fahran wrote:Dejado Atras wrote:Anglo-Saxon is also on the list now too, I heard.
The term "Anglo-Saxon" is somewhat useful for historical discussions of pre-Norman England, and, really, I would prefer we not engage in that level of erasure simply because the terms has acquired a lot of unsavory connotations.
by Trollzyn the Infinite » Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:04 pm
by Senkaku » Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:07 pm
by Fahran » Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:08 pm
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:Appropriate name as I hate both wasps and people who unironically call themselves a "proud WASP".
by Trollzyn the Infinite » Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:12 pm
Fahran wrote:Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:Appropriate name as I hate both wasps and people who unironically call themselves a "proud WASP".
I don't really hate anyone for being proud of their ethnic background and religion. It also amuses me that many African Americans could likely categorize themselves as BASPs.
by The Reformed American Republic » Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:15 pm
by Dejado Atras » Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:17 pm
Fahran wrote:Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:Appropriate name as I hate both wasps and people who unironically call themselves a "proud WASP".
I don't really hate anyone for being proud of their ethnic background and religion. It also amuses me that many African Americans could likely categorize themselves as BASPs.
by Trollzyn the Infinite » Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:18 pm
The Reformed American Republic wrote:Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Appropriate name as I hate both wasps and people who unironically call themselves a "proud WASP".
It's like saying the U.S. was founded on Anglo-Saxon laws. The Normans probably had a greater impact on our legal system than the Anglo-Saxons, even if many White Americans do have some Anglo-Saxon ancestry.
by Trollzyn the Infinite » Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:18 pm
Dejado Atras wrote:Fahran wrote:I don't really hate anyone for being proud of their ethnic background and religion. It also amuses me that many African Americans could likely categorize themselves as BASPs.
Ethinic/Racial pride isn’t really “allowed” for “white” races. Except maybe for Spaniards and Italians. The twisted assumption is it will indisputably inevitably lead to extremism and segregationist behaviors and outlooks. An unfair generalization but... *shrug* it’s there.
by Dejado Atras » Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:20 pm
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:Dejado Atras wrote:
Ethinic/Racial pride isn’t really “allowed” for “white” races. Except maybe for Spaniards and Italians. The twisted assumption is it will indisputably inevitably lead to extremism and segregationist behaviors and outlooks. An unfair generalization but... *shrug* it’s there.
Yeah that's bullshit, and not what I was referencing.
by Cameroi » Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:21 pm
by Alternate South Africa » Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:21 pm
Nousa wrote:Reminder that polling back in the 2000s found that something like 60% of South Africans wanted Apartheid back lol.
by Kowani » Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:21 pm
Dejado Atras wrote:Fahran wrote:I don't really hate anyone for being proud of their ethnic background and religion. It also amuses me that many African Americans could likely categorize themselves as BASPs.
Ethinic/Racial pride isn’t really “allowed” for “white” races. Except maybe for Spaniards and Italians. The twisted assumption is it will indisputably inevitably lead to extremism and segregationist behaviors and outlooks. An unfair generalization but... *shrug* it’s there.
by The Reformed American Republic » Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:27 pm
Kowani wrote:[snip]
by Salus Maior » Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:29 pm
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