White Supremacy discussion thread

[Grenartia]

Deportation.

I would love to be deported to a National Socialist White ethnostate.

Sure. That's where you'll be going.

[Kowani]

Funny thing is the original authors of the study said themselves that "results from the Minnesota Transracial Adoption Study provide little or no conclusive evidence for genetic influences underlying racial differences in intelligence and achievement", aka your assertion is bullshit. https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/d ... 1&type=pdf

Of course they would say that, otherwise they would be lynched and hanged and fired and hunted down and demonized and de-certified and so on. What matters is the data, which clearly presents a racial gap.

Yeah no this is also bullshit

jesus christ, neo-nazis are unoriginal

[Nilokeras]

They believe their ideology is reflective of and justified by empirical evidence and, thus, I consider it a venerable service to relieve them of such misunderstandings and falsehoods. This itself will not lead them away from their ideology, but it will ease the process that beneficial socialization, empathy, and dawning wisdom may, with time, complete.

Nah. Nazism and its various racist and 'racialist' cousins are totally non-empirical. As I noted:

And this of course is the core problem with 'race theory': it's fundamentally unscientific. This isn't meant as a slur, but as a historiographical fact - it predates the advent of modern science, evolution and genetics and has persisted in spite of the evidence, and not because of it, specifically because of its cachet as a social phenomena. There's no clearer picture of this weaving through history than in the 19th century as science edged closer to evolutionary theory. Before evolution, some people believed that the races must have been created separately by God and that the racial hierarchy that enveloped the European world was divinely ordained. Others believed that there was only one creation and that the varying conditions of the Earth lead the different groups of Adam's children to develop differently - and that because of the stunting effects of the tropics and the rest of the world, the European was clearly the superior race. Once evolution came along, racial hierarchy through a single 'evolution' (specifically that natural selection had made Europeans superior to the other 'races') was trumpeted as being vindicated, despite very little actual evidence at the time. And so on and so on, through the creation of IQ testing (which naturally proved the racial superiority of Europeans, nevermind the fact that 'general intelligence' is a statistical artifact) and genetics (despite the complete lack of population structure that would support 'racial' theory) and all the way to today.

It is a pre-emprical worldview that adopts various guises to make itself more palatable to modern audiences. No evidence can ever dissuade EB because they already know the 'truth'. All this is just rhetoric.

Yes, but, with time, we may arrive at what lies beneath the veneer - if, in fact, anything worth discussing does.

Nazism is always the same and always boring. EB might be uncommon in how hard they're trying to shore up their sandcastle but it doesn't make them interesting - if anything it just shows how weak their grasp of the IQ/genetic diversity racist canon is.

[Kowani]

Of course they would say that, otherwise they would be lynched and hanged and fired and hunted down and demonized and de-certified and so on. What matters is the data, which clearly presents a racial gap.

Now we are going into conspiracy theories and rumors instead of evidence eh? You can't cherrypick the data while ignoring the authors' explanation and dissection of it.

wait 'till you actually read their "studies"
they're an affront to science

[Nevertopia]

Of course they would say that, otherwise they would be lynched and hanged and fired and hunted down and demonized and de-certified and so on. What matters is the data, which clearly presents a racial gap.

Yeah no this is also bullshit

jesus christ, neo-nazis are unoriginal

a 2021 study too. thats a slum dunk Kowani.

[Fahran]

Deportation.

I would love to be deported to a National Socialist White ethnostate.

Israel under the Lehi?

[Luminesa]

Okay so let the actual teacher working on a Master’s degree explain to you how these tests work and why they don’t measure intelligence:

I respect your credentials as a teacher, but you must acknowledge your biases as a participant in this debate. Your degrees do not represent an oriental kick to my chest.

1.) Standardized testing specifically focuses more on testing skills than content knowledge. Tests like the ACT and SAT are taken in a single day, and generally are very disconnected from the curriculum the students are learning in school. Just because you have a graph showing the disparity doesn’t mean you actually know what that disparity represents or where it is coming from.

The disparity represents, generally speaking, proficiency in math. It is not relevant how similar the test is to the curriculum the students are taught as it is still a predictor of their skills in math, which are of course closely tied to intelligence.

2.) Your first graph specifically measures average white and black students, rich students, and poor students. Grenartia is correct that rich students get higher scores, as they tend to have more access to resources.

Yes.

I have observed and tutored in a variety of schools. One was a private school with an enormous library, media, and digital resources. This school was predominantly white, wealthier students, snuggled in the back of a well-to-do neighborhood. The other school was in an abandoned neighborhood, which was in development for some time and then abandoned after Hurricane Katrina. Most of these students were minority children. Black and Hispanic children are not less intelligent, they primarily live in lower socioeconomic neighborhoods with less access to resources.

That is true. Minority students are, on average, poorer than Whites, and have less access to services. However, one study I presented filters families by income level, which would mean that any socio-economic factors would be negated.

3.) Third-grade reading proficiency is complex. No Child Left Behind’s goal was to have all children reading at grade-level at 3rd grade. However, if a child is living in a lower socioeconomic condition, they are a lot less likely to develop their fundamental skills to reach grade level. Some of these skills include:

Fluency: Studies on childhood literacy development show that a student’s understanding of vocabulary come from a child being read to, discussing literature, and specifically asking complex questions. Students from lower socioeconomic conditions oftentimes are either not read to or talked to, due to parents working often or children not having access to proper books. Furthermore, by the age of 3, the poorest children know 30 million less words than their richer counterparts. This puts minority children especially at a significant disadvantage to reach their fundamental fluency goals.

30 MILLION ??? This is a serious discovery.

Reading comprehension: Reading less books and having less access to the arts puts children behind in reading comprehension. This is not helped when some of the most prominent cities in the nation are ‘reading deserts’ where children do not have access to books. Again, most of the children affected by this disparity are minority children.

Yes, but I have presented a study which filters for family income, so this should not be relevant. When minority students are so disadvantage, you must begin to ask whether their low intelligence is a result of their poverty, as is commonly said, or their poverty is a result of their pre-existing low intelligence.

Phonics: Phonics has been tossed to the wayside by our standardized-testing-driven curriculums, and this is a bad thing. Especially for poor children. Overall a lack of phonics education is terrible for reaching 3rd-grade standards. And when children from lower socioeconomic conditions are thrown in front of the bus of standardized testing without a strong phonics background...it’s a horrible accident waiting to happen.

Education has plenty to do with race, but not in the way you think it does. Minority children and poor children often face an incredible amount of obstacles, many of which are due to a lack of a focus on the fundamentals in many public schools. Others are due to the fact that their parents are working multiple jobs, they have no parent reading to them, or they are not reading the right books. Oversimplifying this issue does no service to the betterment of education, so why don’t you leave that to the people who actually have a degree in the job, and to other citizens who genuinely care for education and who

aren’t trying to score brownie points with their porn-spamming buddies from Stormfront.

I don't know why you people keep talking about Stormfront because I have never used that site.

My “biases” come from *counts* four years of undergrad and one year of graduate research now? I’m an expert in the field, so you can sit down and let me give you a lesson.

So Math education also requires grasping certain fundamentals, much like English education. Counting, Operations (Algebra), and Problem-Solving are three. Standardized tests on Math generally do not represent what all studies learn during a year and oftentimes have very little real-world relevance which helps children to learn abstract concepts such as algebra. (Yes, children are expected to know basic pre-Algebra by 3rd grade, you can check the Common Core Standards for 3rd Grade Math, under Algebra & Operations.) Furthermore again, standardized testing is one day (or one week) a year which does not determine the full extent of a child’s learning during the year. They focus more on testing skills. This is very relevant because an enormous battle within American education has been the curriculum versus “teaching the tests” (which is about as miserable as it sounds).

I don’t really care if your study filters students because it doesn’t mean they do not exist, or that the problem of reading deserts goes away.

Yes, 30 million. Fun fact, children hear and memorize words faster than they can read them. This comes from the learning explosion they experience right around the age of 2. This is a critical time to read to children and to begin teaching them phonics. However, without proper resources and support, children in this age-group are liable to rapidly fall behind. This happens most often with minority children in poor socioeconomic situations.

You are inherently measuring intelligence differently than how modern education sees intelligence. One very popular and very relevant theory which better recognizes the diversity of learners is Gardner’s Theory of Multiple Intelligences. With it, there are 8 recognized forms of intelligences, so that all children are intelligent at SOMETHING. IQ is only meant to test children at a moment in time, hence why it is not allowed to be used in modern education unless it is given alongside other tests.
However, this theory (which has been heavily researched and reviewed) suggests that intelligence can be tested all year, in many different ways, allowing for the individualizations of children’s education to help them to reach their goals.

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[Grenartia]

I would love to be deported to a National Socialist White ethnostate.

Israel under the Lehi?

I was thinking a Lunar penal colony.

[Picairn]

wait 'till you actually read their "studies"
they're an affront to science

That's probably why they must cherrypick the data from more respectable studies to fill in the gap.

[Nevertopia]

I respect your credentials as a teacher, but you must acknowledge your biases as a participant in this debate. Your degrees do not represent an oriental kick to my chest.

The disparity represents, generally speaking, proficiency in math. It is not relevant how similar the test is to the curriculum the students are taught as it is still a predictor of their skills in math, which are of course closely tied to intelligence.

Yes.

That is true. Minority students are, on average, poorer than Whites, and have less access to services. However, one study I presented filters families by income level, which would mean that any socio-economic factors would be negated.



30 MILLION ??? This is a serious discovery.

Yes, but I have presented a study which filters for family income, so this should not be relevant. When minority students are so disadvantage, you must begin to ask whether their low intelligence is a result of their poverty, as is commonly said, or their poverty is a result of their pre-existing low intelligence.

Phonics: Phonics has been tossed to the wayside by our standardized-testing-driven curriculums, and this is a bad thing. Especially for poor children. Overall a lack of phonics education is terrible for reaching 3rd-grade standards. And when children from lower socioeconomic conditions are thrown in front of the bus of standardized testing without a strong phonics background...it’s a horrible accident waiting to happen.

Education has plenty to do with race, but not in the way you think it does. Minority children and poor children often face an incredible amount of obstacles, many of which are due to a lack of a focus on the fundamentals in many public schools. Others are due to the fact that their parents are working multiple jobs, they have no parent reading to them, or they are not reading the right books. Oversimplifying this issue does no service to the betterment of education, so why don’t you leave that to the people who actually have a degree in the job, and to other citizens who genuinely care for education and who
I don't know why you people keep talking about Stormfront because I have never used that site.

My “biases” come from *counts* five years of undergrad and one year of graduate research now? I’m an expert in the field, so you can sit down and let me give you a lesson.

So Math education also requires grasping certain fundamentals, much like English education. Counting, Operations (Algebra), and Problem-Solving are three. Standardized tests on Math generally do not represent what all studies learn during a year and oftentimes have very little real-world relevance which helps children to learn abstract concepts such as algebra. (Yes, children are expected to know basic pre-Algebra by 3rd grade, you can check the Common Core Standards for 3rd Grade Math, under Algebra & Operations.) Furthermore again, standardized testing is one day (or one week) a year which does not determine the full extent of a child’s learning during the year. They focus more on testing skills. This is very relevant because an enormous battle within American education has been the curriculum versus “teaching the tests” (which is about as miserable as it sounds).

I don’t really care if your study filters students because it doesn’t mean they do not exist, or that the problem of reading deserts goes away.

Yes, 30 million. Fun fact, children hear and memorize words faster than they can read them. This comes from the learning explosion they experience right around the age of 2. This is a critical time to read to children and to begin teaching them phonics. However, without proper resources and support, children in this age-group are liable to rapidly fall behind. This happens most often with minority children in poor socioeconomic situations.

You are inherently measuring intelligence differently than how modern education sees intelligence. One very popular and very relevant theory which better recognizes the diversity of learners is Gardner’s Theory of Multiple Intelligences. With it, there are 8 recognized forms of intelligences, so that all children are intelligent at SOMETHING. IQ is only meant to test children at a moment in time, hence why it is not allowed to be used in modern education unless it is given alongside other tests.
However, this theory (which has been heavily researched and reviewed) suggests that intelligence can be tested all year, in many different ways, allowing for the individualizations of children’s education to help them to reach their goals.

For what its worth you had me at "actual teacher working on a Master's Degree".

[Kowani]

I respect your credentials as a teacher, but you must acknowledge your biases as a participant in this debate. Your degrees do not represent an oriental kick to my chest.

The disparity represents, generally speaking, proficiency in math. It is not relevant how similar the test is to the curriculum the students are taught as it is still a predictor of their skills in math, which are of course closely tied to intelligence.

Yes.

That is true. Minority students are, on average, poorer than Whites, and have less access to services. However, one study I presented filters families by income level, which would mean that any socio-economic factors would be negated.



30 MILLION ??? This is a serious discovery.

Yes, but I have presented a study which filters for family income, so this should not be relevant. When minority students are so disadvantage, you must begin to ask whether their low intelligence is a result of their poverty, as is commonly said, or their poverty is a result of their pre-existing low intelligence.

Phonics: Phonics has been tossed to the wayside by our standardized-testing-driven curriculums, and this is a bad thing. Especially for poor children. Overall a lack of phonics education is terrible for reaching 3rd-grade standards. And when children from lower socioeconomic conditions are thrown in front of the bus of standardized testing without a strong phonics background...it’s a horrible accident waiting to happen.

Education has plenty to do with race, but not in the way you think it does. Minority children and poor children often face an incredible amount of obstacles, many of which are due to a lack of a focus on the fundamentals in many public schools. Others are due to the fact that their parents are working multiple jobs, they have no parent reading to them, or they are not reading the right books. Oversimplifying this issue does no service to the betterment of education, so why don’t you leave that to the people who actually have a degree in the job, and to other citizens who genuinely care for education and who
I don't know why you people keep talking about Stormfront because I have never used that site.

My “biases” come from *counts* five years of undergrad and one year of graduate research now? I’m an expert in the field, so you can sit down and let me give you a lesson.

So Math education also requires grasping certain fundamentals, much like English education. Counting, Operations (Algebra), and Problem-Solving are three. Standardized tests on Math generally do not represent what all studies learn during a year and oftentimes have very little real-world relevance which helps children to learn abstract concepts such as algebra. (Yes, children are expected to know basic pre-Algebra by 3rd grade, you can check the Common Core Standards for 3rd Grade Math, under Algebra & Operations.) Furthermore again, standardized testing is one day (or one week) a year which does not determine the full extent of a child’s learning during the year. They focus more on testing skills. This is very relevant because an enormous battle within American education has been the curriculum versus “teaching the tests” (which is about as miserable as it sounds).

I don’t really care if your study filters students because it doesn’t mean they do not exist, or that the problem of reading deserts goes away.

Yes, 30 million. Fun fact, children hear and memorize words faster than they can read them. This comes from the learning explosion they experience right around the age of 2. This is a critical time to read to children and to begin teaching them phonics. However, without proper resources and support, children in this age-group are liable to rapidly fall behind. This happens most often with minority children in poor socioeconomic situations.

You are inherently measuring intelligence differently than how modern education sees intelligence. One very popular and very relevant theory which better recognizes the diversity of learners is Gardner’s Theory of Multiple Intelligences. With it, there are 8 recognized forms of intelligences, so that all children are intelligent at SOMETHING. IQ is only meant to test children at a moment in time, hence why it is not allowed to be used in modern education unless it is given alongside other tests.
However, this theory (which has been heavily researched and reviewed) suggests that intelligence can be tested all year, in many different ways, allowing for the individualizations of children’s education to help them to reach their goals.

Note: neo-nazis rely heavily on the concept of g, or "general intelligence"
they also rely on the idea that intelligence is distributed in a bell curve (yes, like the very shitty book)

it just happens that neither g or the idea that intelligence lies in a standard distribution is something that was ever proven
they're both assumptions
you're operating from the deck of a modern aircraft carrier, they're in a quadrieme

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[Luminesa]

My “biases” come from *counts* five years of undergrad and one year of graduate research now? I’m an expert in the field, so you can sit down and let me give you a lesson.

So Math education also requires grasping certain fundamentals, much like English education. Counting, Operations (Algebra), and Problem-Solving are three. Standardized tests on Math generally do not represent what all studies learn during a year and oftentimes have very little real-world relevance which helps children to learn abstract concepts such as algebra. (Yes, children are expected to know basic pre-Algebra by 3rd grade, you can check the Common Core Standards for 3rd Grade Math, under Algebra & Operations.) Furthermore again, standardized testing is one day (or one week) a year which does not determine the full extent of a child’s learning during the year. They focus more on testing skills. This is very relevant because an enormous battle within American education has been the curriculum versus “teaching the tests” (which is about as miserable as it sounds).

I don’t really care if your study filters students because it doesn’t mean they do not exist, or that the problem of reading deserts goes away.

Yes, 30 million. Fun fact, children hear and memorize words faster than they can read them. This comes from the learning explosion they experience right around the age of 2. This is a critical time to read to children and to begin teaching them phonics. However, without proper resources and support, children in this age-group are liable to rapidly fall behind. This happens most often with minority children in poor socioeconomic situations.

You are inherently measuring intelligence differently than how modern education sees intelligence. One very popular and very relevant theory which better recognizes the diversity of learners is Gardner’s Theory of Multiple Intelligences. With it, there are 8 recognized forms of intelligences, so that all children are intelligent at SOMETHING. IQ is only meant to test children at a moment in time, hence why it is not allowed to be used in modern education unless it is given alongside other tests.
However, this theory (which has been heavily researched and reviewed) suggests that intelligence can be tested all year, in many different ways, allowing for the individualizations of children’s education to help them to reach their goals.

For what its worth you had me at "actual teacher working on a Master's Degree".

If the pandemic has given me time for something, it’s writing more papers.

And relearning APA format.

Make it stop.

[Fahran]

It is a pre-emprical worldview that adopts various guises to make itself more palatable to modern audiences. No evidence can ever dissuade EB because they already know the 'truth'. All this is just rhetoric.

Oh, I agree, but I'm giving these two gentlemen the benefit of the doubt and granting that they may, for whatever reason, believe their ideology has some footing in reality or in science. This allows us to engage with it by appealing to empirical studies to refute it in detail and in its totality, and thus strip away any notion that the ideology is, in fact, rooted in reality or in science.

Nazism is always the same and always boring. EB might be uncommon in how hard they're trying to shore up their sandcastle but it doesn't make them interesting - if anything it just shows how weak their grasp of the IQ/genetic diversity racist canon is.

It's a pretty decent grasp as far as Neo-Nazis go, but, as has been pointed out, Neo-Nazis aren't really reading on the subject out of intellectual curiosity or interest in the truth. And that's reflected in their misinterpretation of data, their misunderstandings of how IQ functions and is tested, what IQ tests even are, etc. I feel like actually going over the studies might be mutually enlightening for many of us.

[Nevertopia]

For what its worth you had me at "actual teacher working on a Master's Degree".

If the pandemic has given me time for something, it’s writing more papers.

And relearning APA format.

Make it stop.

You're doing great! Keep up the hard work Teach'.

[Picairn]

If the pandemic has given me time for something, it’s writing more papers.

And relearning APA format.

Make it stop.

Now you have the motivation to write more and debunk the bullshit.

[Kowani]

wait 'till you actually read their "studies"
they're an affront to science

That's probably why they must cherrypick the data from more respectable studies to fill in the gap.

among other things, yes

It is a pre-emprical worldview that adopts various guises to make itself more palatable to modern audiences. No evidence can ever dissuade EB because they already know the 'truth'. All this is just rhetoric.

Oh, I agree, but I'm giving these two gentlemen the benefit of the doubt and granting that they may, for whatever reason, believe their ideology has some footing in reality or in science. This allows us to engage with it by appealing to empirical studies to refute it in detail and in its totality, and thus strip away any notion that the ideology is, in fact, rooted in reality or in science.

Nazism is always the same and always boring. EB might be uncommon in how hard they're trying to shore up their sandcastle but it doesn't make them interesting - if anything it just shows how weak their grasp of the IQ/genetic diversity racist canon is.

It's a pretty decent grasp as far as Neo-Nazis go, but, as has been pointed out, Neo-Nazis aren't really reading on the subject out of intellectual curiosity or interest in the truth. And that's reflected in their misinterpretation of data, their misunderstandings of how IQ functions and is tested, what IQ tests even are, etc. I feel like actually going over the studies might be mutually enlightening for many of us.

if they actually believed that, they would have read the studies
EB, at least, has demonstrated that he had not read at all the studies he was citing
the "belief that it is rooted in empirical reality" would seem rather shallow

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[Nilokeras]

Oh, I agree, but I'm giving these two gentlemen the benefit of the doubt and granting that they may, for whatever reason, believe their ideology has some footing in reality or in science. This allows us to engage with it by appealing to empirical studies to refute it in detail and in its totality, and thus strip away any notion that the ideology is, in fact, rooted in reality or in science.

Which does what? It's certainly not convincing them, and the only people reading walls of text about IQ are the people arguing with them.

It's a pretty decent grasp as far as Neo-Nazis go, but, as has been pointed out, Neo-Nazis aren't really reading on the subject out of intellectual curiosity or interest in the truth. And that's reflected in their misinterpretation of data, their misunderstandings of how IQ functions and is tested, what IQ tests even are, etc. I feel like actually going over the studies might be mutually enlightening for many of us.

An opinion that can only be held, with all due respect, by someone who has not been around long enough to see just how circular all these arguments are. I've been here since 2009 and all these Nazis and neo-Nazis are the same. IQ, genetic diversity, lead and environmental effects, why civilization evolved where it did, why Africa is still a 'shithole' etc etc. They come, they argue for 250 pages, they flame out when they accidentally go mask off and say all blacks are inferior or get snippy. Saiwana is unique only in that their posting lacks the required agility to really argue - that's probably why they lasted so long.

[Fahran]

if they actually believed that, they would have read the studies
EB, at least, has demonstrated that he had not read at all the studies he was citing
the "belief that it is rooted in empirical reality" would seem rather shallow

Again, I completely agree. Ideally, he could use his time on break to actually read the research y'all posted, and maybe a bit on how genetics and heredity actually work and about cognition and intelligence more generally. They're all fascinating subjects after all, and would enrich anyone who pursued them, Neo-Nazi or no.

[Grenartia]

I've been here since 2009

Slightly off topic, but would I recognize any of your previous accounts?

[Kowani]

Oh, I agree, but I'm giving these two gentlemen the benefit of the doubt and granting that they may, for whatever reason, believe their ideology has some footing in reality or in science. This allows us to engage with it by appealing to empirical studies to refute it in detail and in its totality, and thus strip away any notion that the ideology is, in fact, rooted in reality or in science.

Which does what? It's certainly not convincing them, and the only people reading walls of text about IQ are the people arguing with them.

It's a pretty decent grasp as far as Neo-Nazis go, but, as has been pointed out, Neo-Nazis aren't really reading on the subject out of intellectual curiosity or interest in the truth. And that's reflected in their misinterpretation of data, their misunderstandings of how IQ functions and is tested, what IQ tests even are, etc. I feel like actually going over the studies might be mutually enlightening for many of us.

An opinion that can only be held, with all due respect, by someone who has not been around long enough to see just how circular all these arguments are. I've been here since 2009 and all these Nazis and neo-Nazis are the same. IQ, genetic diversity, lead and environmental effects, why civilization evolved where it did, why Africa is still a 'shithole' etc etc. They come, they argue for 250 pages, they flame out when they accidentally go mask off and say all blacks are inferior or get snippy. Saiwana is unique only in that their posting lacks the required agility to really argue - that's probably why they lasted so long.

while i have not been here nearly as long, this is my experience as well
it's always the same set of authors, too
Murray, Lynn, Rushton, Jensen, Winegard...
and when you point out that they're all either liars or nazis (or both), they retreat into "well the real research is being suppressedddddd!!!"

if they actually believed that, they would have read the studies
EB, at least, has demonstrated that he had not read at all the studies he was citing
the "belief that it is rooted in empirical reality" would seem rather shallow

Again, I completely agree. Ideally, he could use his time on break to actually read the research y'all posted, and maybe a bit on how genetics and heredity actually work and about cognition and intelligence more generally. They're all fascinating subjects after all, and would enrich anyone who pursued them, Neo-Nazi or no.

i mean
even reading his own data would be a start
but reading that of others would also help
anything other than the hereditarian propaganda loop

[Nilokeras]

I've been here since 2009

Slightly off topic, but would I recognize any of your previous accounts?

Avenio was the one that was around the longest, a couple others here and there.

[Luminesa]

If the pandemic has given me time for something, it’s writing more papers.

And relearning APA format.

Make it stop.

You're doing great! Keep up the hard work Teach'.

Awwww I appreciate the encouragement! Many thanks!