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Do you think white supermascists should be able to express their views?

Yes
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No
484
37%
Depends
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21%
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Postby Odreria » Tue Apr 13, 2021 3:36 pm

Punished UMN wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:Never said he wasn't. I'm saying he is a bullshit artist who wants to redirect populist energy towards keeping neoliberals in power.

You neolibs said the same thing about Nigel Farage until he forced the UK out of the EU. Neoliberals have such short memories, the system has powerful opponents and lots of people are willing to get rid of it. It's like you've forgotten that just three months ago there was an ninety minute period where we weren't sure if there had been a coup d'etat.

The capitol riot posed zero threat to the system LMAO
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Apr 13, 2021 3:39 pm

Odreria wrote:
Punished UMN wrote:You neolibs said the same thing about Nigel Farage until he forced the UK out of the EU. Neoliberals have such short memories, the system has powerful opponents and lots of people are willing to get rid of it. It's like you've forgotten that just three months ago there was an ninety minute period where we weren't sure if there had been a coup d'etat.

The capitol riot posed zero threat to the system LMAO


I mean tbh it seems to have scared the system considering how many soldiers are still in DC.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Tue Apr 13, 2021 3:39 pm

Punished UMN wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:Neoliberals just devote themselves to free market capitalism. Something that Trump did. The only real thing he did were some window dress tariffs. Pulling out of the EU doesn't magically make one anti-elite or anti-neoliberal, nor does launching coups. Pinochet came to power through a coup, remember? I'm not the one with the short memory. Window dressing is all that is. If one supports deregulation and free market initiatives, chances are, they're neoliberal.

Neoliberalism is a political ideology as much as it is an economic philosophy, it is guided by the idea that free trade results in a healthy economy, tariffs, anti-free trade sentiment, etc. are opposed to neoliberalism.

It it's purest form maybe. But if that's really all they disagree with the stereotypical neoliberals on, they're not really much different, especially when much of that sentiment is just window dressing and posturing to get elected. Much of the anti-neoliberalism is for show. Things cannot be taken at face value.

Also, I don't support free trade, and it didn't stop you from calling me a neoliberal.
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Postby Odreria » Tue Apr 13, 2021 3:40 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Odreria wrote:The capitol riot posed zero threat to the system LMAO


I mean tbh it seems to have scared the system considering how many soldiers are still in DC.

The Turkish "coup attempt" brought out a lot of soldiers too.
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Postby Kingdom Of Deutchland » Tue Apr 13, 2021 3:41 pm

I hope this thread is a joke... What the hell man..

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Postby Punished UMN » Tue Apr 13, 2021 3:46 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Punished UMN wrote:Neoliberalism is a political ideology as much as it is an economic philosophy, it is guided by the idea that free trade results in a healthy economy, tariffs, anti-free trade sentiment, etc. are opposed to neoliberalism.

It it's purest form maybe. But if that's really all they disagree with the stereotypical neoliberals on, they're not really much different, especially when much of that sentiment is just window dressing and posturing to get elected. Much of the anti-neoliberalism is for show. Things cannot be taken at face value.

Also, I don't support free trade, and it didn't stop you from calling me a neoliberal.

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Postby Fahran » Tue Apr 13, 2021 3:46 pm

Kingdom Of Deutchland wrote:I hope this thread is a joke... What the hell man..

No, we're all super proud to be white Anglos here. Please disregard my signature. And my previous claims of being Latina.
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Postby Conservative Republic Of Huang » Tue Apr 13, 2021 3:48 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Drew Durrnil wrote:That's wrong and stupid.


It makes more sense than the "out of Africa" theory from my perspective. As if a single population of people in a single place was capable of settling the entire rest of the world. The perils of traveling on foot was so great that it'd of been impossible whilst people were hunter gatherers.

Just as it isn't likely that people used to be nothing more than apes or some type of lower primate. Unless a "missing link" skeleton is ever found completely intact, I don't believe people ever evolved from apes or monkeys. The only thing in common is that we have opposible thumbs.

I'd say it is like the big bang, in that no one knows how or why it happened beyond that it did at some point because we're here. The most simple and straightforward explanation is that "God did it!" but it is so simple and straightforward as to not be a valid answer scientifically.

There isn't a missing link b/c the scientific consensus is that we share a common ancestor with apes, not that we evolved from them.
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Postby Odreria » Tue Apr 13, 2021 3:49 pm

If white people have no culture then why do I have my baby yoda socks on in the hot tub
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Postby Fahran » Tue Apr 13, 2021 3:51 pm

Odreria wrote:If white people have no culture then why do I have my baby yoda socks on in the hot tub

Asking the most gripping of questions.

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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Tue Apr 13, 2021 3:52 pm

Punished UMN wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:It it's purest form maybe. But if that's really all they disagree with the stereotypical neoliberals on, they're not really much different, especially when much of that sentiment is just window dressing and posturing to get elected. Much of the anti-neoliberalism is for show. Things cannot be taken at face value.

Also, I don't support free trade, and it didn't stop you from calling me a neoliberal.

I don't even know who you are.

And you called me a neoliberal. plus, you should know me, as I used to be in your region.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Apr 13, 2021 3:53 pm

Kowani wrote:okay i'm just gonna check out while the circus runs its course
let me know when we're not rehashing darwin again

I am sorry, you had expectations of realness in this thread?
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Postby Kowani » Tue Apr 13, 2021 3:57 pm

Odreria wrote:If white people have no culture then why do I have my baby yoda socks on in the hot tub

you answered your own question :p

Ethel mermania wrote:
Kowani wrote:okay i'm just gonna check out while the circus runs its course
let me know when we're not rehashing darwin again

I am sorry, you had expectations of realness in this thread?

it has been less abjectly terrible than i expected
it's just still been bad
though that measure seems to depend largely on who in particular is participating at any given moment...
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Apr 13, 2021 4:02 pm

Kowani wrote:
Odreria wrote:If white people have no culture then why do I have my baby yoda socks on in the hot tub

you answered your own question :p

Ethel mermania wrote:I am sorry, you had expectations of realness in this thread?

it has been less abjectly terrible than i expected
it's just still been bad
though that measure seems to depend largely on who in particular is participating at any given moment...

At what level does morbid curiosity turn into masochism?


..... asking for a friend.
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Postby Kowani » Tue Apr 13, 2021 4:04 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Punished UMN wrote:I don't even know who you are.

And you called me a neoliberal. plus, you should know me, as I used to be in your region.

tbf, i don't remember a good 2/3 of ex-regionmates

Ethel mermania wrote:
Kowani wrote:you answered your own question :p


it has been less abjectly terrible than i expected
it's just still been bad
though that measure seems to depend largely on who in particular is participating at any given moment...

At what level does morbid curiosity turn into masochism?


..... asking for a friend.

i suspect sometime when there is no reason to be curious, because you already know what will happen, yet return anyway
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Postby Sidoneia » Tue Apr 13, 2021 4:08 pm

I don't believe in white people. They are a mythological creature invented by the lizard men to keep the hobbits and dwarves in line. How do we know the so-called "fossils" aren't just a race of subterranean skeleton-people biding their time before they hear the call of the Illuminati that it's time to activate operation Warp Speed? Once the concentration of orc blood in the chemtrails reaches critical mass, the Greys will finally flip on the HAARP array and slay Bigfoot. Epstein was trying to warn us the only way he knew how, but the Clinton mob got to him first. Don't believe the fake news, there never was a "Prince Philip". He was a creation of MK-Ultra that burst from the minds of a group of ESPer soldiers on LSD and Adenochrome in the 60's. :twisted:

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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Apr 13, 2021 4:11 pm

Kowani wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:And you called me a neoliberal. plus, you should know me, as I used to be in your region.

tbf, i don't remember a good 2/3 of ex-regionmates

Ethel mermania wrote:At what level does morbid curiosity turn into masochism?


..... asking for a friend.

i suspect sometime when there is no reason to be curious, because you already know what will happen, yet return anyway

I knew I should have never made that first post.
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Postby Atheris » Tue Apr 13, 2021 4:36 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Suriyanakhon wrote:
To be fair, Young Earth Creationists believe God literally changed people's skin tones during the Tower of Babel to mess with them.


It was Noah's Ark, not Tower of Babel. Allegedly, Noah's adult son Ham accidentally saw his daddy's dong, and this apparently made Yahweh turn his skin dark and condemned him and his descendants to a life of servitude. Or some such bullshit like that. Because that totally makes sense.

The Curse of Ham is never specified and is still debated today. Dark skin was possibly the curse, but there's also blindness, leprosy, and other theories.
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Postby Atheris » Tue Apr 13, 2021 4:39 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Drew Durrnil wrote:That's wrong and stupid.


It makes more sense than the "out of Africa" theory from my perspective. As if a single population of people in a single place was capable of settling the entire rest of the world. The perils of traveling on foot was so great that it'd of been impossible whilst people were hunter gatherers.

Just as it isn't likely that people used to be nothing more than apes or some type of lower primate. Unless a "missing link" skeleton is ever found completely intact, I don't believe people ever evolved from apes or monkeys. The only thing in common is that we have opposible thumbs.

I'd say it is like the big bang, in that no one knows how or why it happened beyond that it did at some point because we're here. The most simple and straightforward explanation is that "God did it!" but it is so simple and straightforward as to not be a valid answer scientifically.

You're right, people didn't evolve from apes. Have a cookie.

We have a common ancestor.
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Postby Cekovia » Tue Apr 13, 2021 4:43 pm

i had to get my braces adjusted (because im adorable) what tangentially related topic r we talking about now
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Postby Suriyanakhon » Tue Apr 13, 2021 4:43 pm

Odreria wrote:If white people have no culture then why do I have my baby yoda socks on in the hot tub


This post was written to justify white genocide, wasn't it?
Atheris wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
It makes more sense than the "out of Africa" theory from my perspective. As if a single population of people in a single place was capable of settling the entire rest of the world. The perils of traveling on foot was so great that it'd of been impossible whilst people were hunter gatherers.

Just as it isn't likely that people used to be nothing more than apes or some type of lower primate. Unless a "missing link" skeleton is ever found completely intact, I don't believe people ever evolved from apes or monkeys. The only thing in common is that we have opposible thumbs.

I'd say it is like the big bang, in that no one knows how or why it happened beyond that it did at some point because we're here. The most simple and straightforward explanation is that "God did it!" but it is so simple and straightforward as to not be a valid answer scientifically.

You're right, people didn't evolve from apes. Have a cookie.

We have a common ancestor.


We're literally a sub-group of Great Ape though.
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Postby Grenartia » Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:06 pm

Atheris wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
It was Noah's Ark, not Tower of Babel. Allegedly, Noah's adult son Ham accidentally saw his daddy's dong, and this apparently made Yahweh turn his skin dark and condemned him and his descendants to a life of servitude. Or some such bullshit like that. Because that totally makes sense.

The Curse of Ham is never specified and is still debated today. Dark skin was possibly the curse, but there's also blindness, leprosy, and other theories.


Its still an incredibly weird and cringeworthy story to include in a holy text.

Its just so fucking random and nonsensical.

"Oh, yeah, by the way. That one really important guy that was the Chosen One? One of his sons accidentally saw him naked on the big boat, so now he and his descendants are cursed, so its cool to treat them like shit."

Atheris wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
It makes more sense than the "out of Africa" theory from my perspective. As if a single population of people in a single place was capable of settling the entire rest of the world. The perils of traveling on foot was so great that it'd of been impossible whilst people were hunter gatherers.

Just as it isn't likely that people used to be nothing more than apes or some type of lower primate. Unless a "missing link" skeleton is ever found completely intact, I don't believe people ever evolved from apes or monkeys. The only thing in common is that we have opposible thumbs.

I'd say it is like the big bang, in that no one knows how or why it happened beyond that it did at some point because we're here. The most simple and straightforward explanation is that "God did it!" but it is so simple and straightforward as to not be a valid answer scientifically.

You're right, people didn't evolve from apes. Have a cookie.

We have a common ancestor.


If memory serves, said common ancestor was still an ape.

Really, its important to note that it cannot be understated how much evolution is not a discreet process. Monkey does not give birth to man. Nature is rarely that black and white. Instead, it is a continual process. The transition from black to white is not a clear line, but rather a spectrum, with shades of grey, and each change that happens is so miniscule, you won't notice any change until after many generations.

And it is never a process of 'least advanced to most advanced', or vice versa. It is always 'least fit for the given environment' to 'most fit for the given environment'.

It is for this reason that, absent some absolutely stunning and utterly unprecedented (and virtually impossible) case of convergent evolution, humanity did not evolve in multiple places.
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Postby Cekovia » Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:11 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Drew Durrnil wrote:That's wrong and stupid.


It makes more sense than the "out of Africa" theory from my perspective. As if a single population of people in a single place was capable of settling the entire rest of the world. The perils of traveling on foot was so great that it'd of been impossible whilst people were hunter gatherers.

Just as it isn't likely that people used to be nothing more than apes or some type of lower primate. Unless a "missing link" skeleton is ever found completely intact, I don't believe people ever evolved from apes or monkeys. The only thing in common is that we have opposible thumbs.

I'd say it is like the big bang, in that no one knows how or why it happened beyond that it did at some point because we're here. The most simple and straightforward explanation is that "God did it!" but it is so simple and straightforward as to not be a valid answer scientifically.

sai, a single population of hardy organisms can easily colonize essentially the entire world when given access to technology like weapons and boats (Which humans had). particularly for the latter take a look at any number of cockroaches with a virtually worldwide distribution from riding ships (blattella germanica, periplaneta americana, blatta orientalis, pycnoscelus surinamensis..) and those are cockroaches so think about People.

very odd of U to appeal to science here when U are explicitly ignoring ridiculous amounts of evidence for seemingly no good reason
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Postby Fahran » Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:14 pm

Cekovia wrote:sai, a single population of hardy organisms can easily colonize essentially the entire world when given access to technology like weapons and boats (Which humans had). particularly for the latter take a look at any number of cockroaches with a virtually worldwide distribution from riding ships (blattella germanica, periplaneta americana, blatta orientalis, pycnoscelus surinamensis..) and those are cockroaches so think about People.

very odd of U to appeal to science here when U are explicitly ignoring ridiculous amounts of evidence for seemingly no good reason

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Postby Kowani » Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:19 pm

Cekovia wrote:
very odd of U to appeal to science here when U are explicitly ignoring ridiculous amounts of evidence for seemingly no good reason

you don't have to be Professor X to know the reason
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