White Supremacy discussion thread

[Fahran]

So how do you explain how White people even exist lmao

"Then G-d made clothing from skins for the man and his wife, and he clothed them. And some of those skins G-d did make white-ish. And others G-d did make black-ish or brown-ish or slightly tanned. And G-d saw that it was a good troll, and did smile unto himself."

[The Reformed American Republic]

Kowani, he might be an actual racist, but people should view him as a controlled opponent of the neoliberal establishment, rather than a fascistic populist.

He is the most prominent political commentator in the US, if not the entire world. You may not like it, but he is influential.

Never said he wasn't. I'm saying he is a bullshit artist who wants to redirect populist energy towards keeping neoliberals in power.

[Western Fardelshufflestein]

I've heard of the Sami, though I am not aware of their complexions.
Also: Not all European countries speak Indo-European languages Shout-out to Hungary, Finland, and Estonia.

Hang on, color adjectives aren't capitalized--

I'd say that Maltese is a kind of Semitic language since it is descended from Siculo-Arabic, so that makes it 4.

Cool!

[Kowani]

I wonder if White supremacists would eventually accept whiter-looking Hispanics and Arabs if they were generally assimilated into American 'whiteness'.

What defines 'American whiteness' tbh?

this is...very complicated tbh and i don't know where to begin
a bit of a push-and-pull between what you personally identify as, what society sees you as, and who's on the bottom of the totem pole

I wonder if White supremacists would eventually accept whiter-looking Hispanics and Arabs if they were generally assimilated into American 'whiteness'.

There's been a lot of suggestions that they'll eventually accept light-complected Latinos, especially given, as Ko pointed out, a lot of them tend to assimilate and identify as white within the span of two or three generations of living among Anglo-Americans.

i would avoid overstating the conclusions drawn there, because there is a difference between assimilating and identifying as white

[The Reformed American Republic]

Kowani, he might be an actual racist, but people should view him as a controlled opponent of the neoliberal establishment, rather than a fascistic populist.

We can debate about what he is all day, and it won't get us anywhere. The question we should really care about is: "How can we oppose him and those like him?"

The Democrats should tone down identity politics a bit and enact a truly populist economic plan.

[Sengoku Americas]

We can debate about what he is all day, and it won't get us anywhere. The question we should really care about is: "How can we oppose him and those like him?"

The Democrats should tone down identity politics a bit and enact a truly populist economic plan.

And why would they do that, when they benefit perfectly well from the status quo?

[Fahran]

I've heard of the Sami, though I am not aware of their complexions.
Also: Not all European countries speak Indo-European languages Shout-out to Hungary, Finland, and Estonia.

Hang on, color adjectives aren't capitalized--

I'd say that Maltese is a kind of Semitic language since it is descended from Siculo-Arabic, so that makes it 4.

And the Basques.

[National Capitalist United States]

We can debate about what he is all day, and it won't get us anywhere. The question we should really care about is: "How can we oppose him and those like him?"

The Democrats should tone down identity politics a bit and enact a truly populist economic plan.

"Like that's ever gonna happen" -Shrek, 2001

[Grenartia]

Fun fact: this is what a native resident of modern day Denmark might have looked like a mere 5,700 years ago:

There is no way that can be true if skin color doesn't magically just change so drastically in the span of such short of a time. Skin color only really changes in my mind, if they reproduced outside of their racial group or ethnicity. The White people in South Africa didn't become Black for example, just because they were too close to the equator. They stayed White so long as they kept to their own race.

White people in South Africa are descended from Dutch/British colonists, not actually native to the area. Also, skin color is not dependent on regional temperature. Do you even basic science?

[Kowani]

There is no way that can be true if skin color doesn't magically just change so drastically in the span of such short of a time. Skin color only really changes in my mind, if they reproduced outside of their racial group or ethnicity. The White people in South Africa didn't become Black for example, just because they were too close to the equator. They stayed White so long as they kept to their own race.

So how do you explain how White people even exist lmao

eugenics by Yakub the bigheaded scientist, of course

Kowani, he might be an actual racist, but people should view him as a controlled opponent of the neoliberal establishment, rather than a fascistic populist.

I don't care what he is, I care what he does
the establishment has proven-very much so-that it is not capable of keeping in check the explosive nativism (among other things) on the right in check, and tucker does nothing but feed into that

[Suriyanakhon]

So how do you explain how White people even exist lmao

"Then G-d made clothing from skins for the man and his wife, and he clothed them. And some of those skins G-d did make white-ish. And others G-d did make black-ish or brown-ish or slightly tanned. And G-d saw that it was a good troll, and did smile unto himself."

To be fair, Young Earth Creationists believe God literally changed people's skin tones during the Tower of Babel to mess with them.

[The Reformed American Republic]

The Democrats should tone down identity politics a bit and enact a truly populist economic plan.

And why would they do that, when they benefit perfectly well from the status quo?

I said Should not Would.

[Punished UMN]

He is the most prominent political commentator in the US, if not the entire world. You may not like it, but he is influential.

Never said he wasn't. I'm saying he is a bullshit artist who wants to redirect populist energy towards keeping neoliberals in power.

You neolibs said the same thing about Nigel Farage until he forced the UK out of the EU. Neoliberals have such short memories, the system has powerful opponents and lots of people are willing to get rid of it. It's like you've forgotten that just three months ago there was an ninety minute period where we weren't sure if there had been a coup d'etat.

[Saiwania]

So how do you explain how White people even exist lmao

White people independently originated in Europe, just as Blacks independently originated in Africa, Asians in Asia and so on. With bridge ethnicities or racial groups developing in the locations between the major continents/landmarks as a result of people reproducing outside their race/ethnicity. Koreans for example, can be seen as the genetic bridge between Chinese and Japanese people broadly speaking.

Miscegenation isn't a bad thing 100% of the time, there is perhaps a place for it. But the difference is that it should be rare and not made normal or typical like is too often the case for today's era in cosmopolitan cities/locales. I can accept it only to enough of an extent where it won't threaten the single race populations remaining majorities in their respective regions or homelands but no more beyond that.

[Sengoku Americas]

So how do you explain how White people even exist lmao

eugenics by Yakub the bigheaded scientist, of course

Kowani, he might be an actual racist, but people should view him as a controlled opponent of the neoliberal establishment, rather than a fascistic populist.

I don't care what he is, I care what he does
the establishment has proven-very much so-that it is not capable of keeping in check the explosive nativism (among other things) on the right in check, and tucker does nothing but feed into that

Or might it be possible that the establishment actually desires such an outcome, dividing the population so they can't demand actual changes like better healthcare and education?

[Western Fardelshufflestein]

"Then G-d made clothing from skins for the man and his wife, and he clothed them. And some of those skins G-d did make white-ish. And others G-d did make black-ish or brown-ish or slightly tanned. And G-d saw that it was a good troll, and did smile unto himself."

To be fair, Young Earth Creationists believe God literally changed people's skin tones during the Tower of Babel to mess with them.

I have never heard of the skin tone-changing thing. Just the linguistic confusion.

[Punished UMN]

So how do you explain how White people even exist lmao

White people independently originated in Europe, just as Blacks independently originated in Africa, Asians in Asia and so on. With bridge ethnicities or racial groups developing in the locations between the major continents/landmarks as a result of people reproducing outside their race/ethnicity. Koreans for example, can be seen as the genetic bridge between Chinese and Japanese people broadly speaking.

Miscegenation isn't a bad thing 100% of the time, there is perhaps a place for it. But the difference is that it should be rare and not made normal or typical like is too often the case for today's era in cosmopolitan cities/locales. I can accept it only to enough of an extent where it won't threaten the single race populations remaining majorities in their respective regions or homelands but no more beyond that.

Independently originated from what?

[Sengoku Americas]

And why would they do that, when they benefit perfectly well from the status quo?

I said Should not Would.

Fair enough, point taken.

[National Capitalist United States]

So how do you explain how White people even exist lmao

White people independently originated in Europe, just as Blacks independently originated in Africa, Asians in Asia and so on.

Don't tell me you're a polygenist...

[Grenartia]

"Then G-d made clothing from skins for the man and his wife, and he clothed them. And some of those skins G-d did make white-ish. And others G-d did make black-ish or brown-ish or slightly tanned. And G-d saw that it was a good troll, and did smile unto himself."

To be fair, Young Earth Creationists believe God literally changed people's skin tones during the Tower of Babel to mess with them.

It was Noah's Ark, not Tower of Babel. Allegedly, Noah's adult son Ham accidentally saw his daddy's dong, and this apparently made Yahweh turn his skin dark and condemned him and his descendants to a life of servitude. Or some such bullshit like that. Because that totally makes sense.

[Sengoku Americas]

To be fair, Young Earth Creationists believe God literally changed people's skin tones during the Tower of Babel to mess with them.

I have never heard of the skin tone-changing thing. Just the linguistic confusion.

Whatever it is, it's those kind of people who give the rest of us religious followers a bad reputation.

[Sengoku Americas]

So how do you explain how White people even exist lmao

White people independently originated in Europe, just as Blacks independently originated in Africa, Asians in Asia and so on. With bridge ethnicities or racial groups developing in the locations between the major continents/landmarks as a result of people reproducing outside their race/ethnicity. Koreans for example, can be seen as the genetic bridge between Chinese and Japanese people broadly speaking.

You do realise that it's difficult to tell from one's DNA what race they belong to, right? Race is almost entirely based off of physical appearance, not genetic or inherited characteristics.

[Senkaku]

White people independently originated in Europe, just as Blacks independently originated in Africa, Asians in Asia and so on. With bridge ethnicities or racial groups developing in the locations between the major continents/landmarks as a result of people reproducing outside their race/ethnicity. Koreans for example, can be seen as the genetic bridge between Chinese and Japanese people broadly speaking.

You do realise that it's difficult to tell from one's DNA what race they belong to, right? Race is almost entirely based off of physical appearance, not genetic or inherited characteristics.

Science will be referenced when it seems to him like it could legitimize his claims and discarded the second it doesn’t, I wouldn’t bother

[Kowani]

We can debate about what he is all day, and it won't get us anywhere. The question we should really care about is: "How can we oppose him and those like him?"

The Democrats should tone down identity politics a bit and enact a truly populist economic plan.

the GOP's out here trying to tear trans kids away from their parents lmao, i think the dems focus on idpol is a bit necessary

eugenics by Yakub the bigheaded scientist, of course


I don't care what he is, I care what he does
the establishment has proven-very much so-that it is not capable of keeping in check the explosive nativism (among other things) on the right in check, and tucker does nothing but feed into that

Or might it be possible that the establishment actually desires such an outcome, dividing the population so they can't demand actual changes like better healthcare and education?

no
anyone who thinks the core of the modern american activist right is going to act in ways favourable to the establishment is deluding themselves and has actively not been paying attention to the republican party

[Grenartia]

So how do you explain how White people even exist lmao

White people independently originated in Europe, just as Blacks independently originated in Africa, Asians in Asia and so on.

Basic genetics and the entire fossil record of humankind utterly disprove this bullshit.

With bridge ethnicities or racial groups developing in the locations between the major continents/landmarks as a result of people reproducing outside their race/ethnicity. Koreans for example, can be seen as the genetic bridge between Chinese and Japanese people broadly speaking.

Miscegenation isn't a bad thing 100% of the time, there is perhaps a place for it. But the difference is that it should be rare and not made normal or typical like is too often the case for today's era in cosmopolitan cities/locales. I can accept it only to enough of an extent where it won't threaten the single race populations remaining majorities in their respective regions or homelands but no more beyond that.

Your obsession with "racial homogeneity" is little more than a thinly-veiled incest fetish, and your begrudging acceptance of 'limited race-mixing' is nothing but a transparent attempt to desire to stave off the Hapsburgization of your racial group that inevitably would result from said inbreeding.

There, I said it.