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Do you think white supermascists should be able to express their views?

Yes
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40%
No
484
37%
Depends
283
21%
Other
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Total votes : 1321

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Borderlands of Rojava
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:41 pm

Fahran wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Aren't most Mormons of British Isles heritage? They never were non white in America.

When I become the CEO of Racism, I'll make Mormons and the Irish non-white and African-Americans and Latinos white.


Nazis and SJWs: What?
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Punished UMN
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Postby Punished UMN » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:42 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Punished UMN wrote:Elimination of money and ownership of the means of production in-common. There would be no economic demand for pornography and as such there would be no economic incentive to create it.


So you support people freely choosing to share lewd pictures/videos/illustrations with other consenting adults? Based.

Sending your partner nudes isn't something I would do but it's certainly not porn.
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Fahran
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Postby Fahran » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:42 pm

Grenartia wrote:So you support people freely choosing to share lewd pictures/videos/illustrations with other consenting adults? Based.

It's not an economic transaction at that point. Really, the US government could probably employ the commerce clause to snuff out pornography if it wanted to do so.

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The Reformed American Republic
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:42 pm

Drew Durrnil wrote:
Western Fardelshufflestein wrote:Yup. And in the US, it's literally illegal for governments to criminalize such speech, even if it's disgusting, because of the First Amendment.

Unless it's extreme hate speech

Direct threats of violence, libel, slander, and some other exceptions.
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Postby Cekovia » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:42 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Fahran wrote:When I become the CEO of Racism, I'll make Mormons and the Irish non-white and African-Americans and Latinos white.


Nazis and SJWs: What?

guy who says "SJW" unironically in 2021
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Western Fardelshufflestein
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Postby Western Fardelshufflestein » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:43 pm

Drew Durrnil wrote:
Western Fardelshufflestein wrote:Yup. And in the US, it's literally illegal for governments to criminalize such speech, even if it's disgusting, because of the First Amendment.

Unless it's extreme hate speech

And incites violence except on Twitter. /s.
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Kowani
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Postby Kowani » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:43 pm

Punished UMN wrote:
Kowani wrote:i'm curious on the how you'd ban it, personally

Elimination of money and ownership of the means of production in-common. There would be no economic demand for pornography and as such there would be no economic incentive to create it.

fuck, i'm torn
on the one hand, that's a really interesting discussion i want to have
on the other, that's threadjacking

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Drew Durrnil wrote:I think she's a racist and a feminist.

Many Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminists are like that. They remind me of conservatives but are different in key details.

yeah, the amount of mental gymnastics one has to leap through to be a TERF is lower than that of the average modern conservative...
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Borderlands of Rojava
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:43 pm

Cekovia wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Nazis and SJWs: What?

guy who says "SJW" unironically in 2021


Says the one trying to be feminist and racist at the same time.
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Spodehaven
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Postby Spodehaven » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:44 pm

Tsaivao wrote:This image is my viewpoint, pretty much.


Late to the party but this is an islamophobic edit of the original version which used nazis not muslims
Maybe I'll write one of these things

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Punished UMN
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Postby Punished UMN » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:44 pm

Kowani wrote:
Punished UMN wrote:Elimination of money and ownership of the means of production in-common. There would be no economic demand for pornography and as such there would be no economic incentive to create it.

fuck, i'm torn
on the one hand, that's a really interesting discussion i want to have
on the other, that's threadjacking

Woah, don't give away my process there, Ko!
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Trollzyn the Infinite
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:45 pm

Punished UMN wrote:
Kowani wrote:i'm curious on the how you'd ban it, personally

Elimination of money and ownership of the means of production in-common. There would be no economic demand for pornography and as such there would be no economic incentive to create it.


...You really don't think people wouldn't make porn for free?

That's very naive of you.
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Samudera Darussalam
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Postby Samudera Darussalam » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:45 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Cekovia wrote:guy who says "SJW" unironically in 2021


Says the one trying to be feminist and racist at the same time.

She said misandrist, man, get it right :p

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Postby Old Tyrannia » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:45 pm

Fahran wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
^

Why are y'all so based?

Because we are all products of that famed and highly rigorous academy of philosophy and rhetoric, the RWDT.
Grenartia wrote:
Punished UMN wrote:Elimination of money and ownership of the means of production in-common. There would be no economic demand for pornography and as such there would be no economic incentive to create it.


So you support people freely choosing to share lewd pictures/videos/illustrations with other consenting adults? Based.

I know this wasn't directed at me (and that the discussion on pornography is pretty off-topic) but I would say that whilst people sharing lewd images or videos of themselves in a non-commercial context is something that I would personally regard as immoral, it's not something that the law should be concerned with.
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Grenartia
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Postby Grenartia » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:46 pm

Punished UMN wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
So you support people freely choosing to share lewd pictures/videos/illustrations with other consenting adults? Based.

Sending your partner nudes isn't something I would do but it's certainly not porn.


Oh, it absolutely is still porn. Money doesn't have to change hands for it to be porn. It just has to be sexually explicit.

Fahran wrote:
Grenartia wrote:So you support people freely choosing to share lewd pictures/videos/illustrations with other consenting adults? Based.

It's not an economic transaction at that point. Really, the US government could probably employ the commerce clause to snuff out pornography if it wanted to do so.


See above. And I counter the commerce clause claim with the First Amendment's protection of freedom of expression.
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Cekovia
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Postby Cekovia » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:47 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Drew Durrnil wrote:I think she's a racist and a feminist.

Many Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminists are like that. They remind me of conservatives but are different in key details.

oh funny story about that one time i saw a self identified radfem on twitter who one of her first posts was calling a black woman the n-word. personally im not fond of feminism These days for reasons such as that. i think we should stick by All other women and only call minority men slurs
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Postby Punished UMN » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:47 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Punished UMN wrote:Elimination of money and ownership of the means of production in-common. There would be no economic demand for pornography and as such there would be no economic incentive to create it.


...You really don't think people wouldn't make porn for free?

That's very naive of you.

Amateur pornography could easily be banned on the grounds that it is impossible to regulate it.
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Postby Fahran » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:47 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Says the one trying to be feminist and racist at the same time.

Ceko, can I ruin your fun yet?

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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:47 pm

Samudera Darussalam wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Says the one trying to be feminist and racist at the same time.

She said misandrist, man, get it right :p


It's genuinely hard to take her views seriously when all of them are comprised solely of horse manure.
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Postby Grenartia » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:47 pm

Kowani wrote:
Punished UMN wrote:Elimination of money and ownership of the means of production in-common. There would be no economic demand for pornography and as such there would be no economic incentive to create it.

fuck, i'm torn
on the one hand, that's a really interesting discussion i want to have
on the other, that's threadjacking

The Reformed American Republic wrote:Many Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminists are like that. They remind me of conservatives but are different in key details.

yeah, the amount of mental gymnastics one has to leap through to be a TERF is lower than that of the average modern conservative...


But the mental gymnastics required are higher when one is a transgender TERF.
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:47 pm

Porn and misandry aren't very relevant to white supremacy, as much as it is interesting to argue about the former and hate on the slimy nastiness of the latter.
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Postby Cekovia » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:48 pm

Fahran wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Says the one trying to be feminist and racist at the same time.

Ceko, can I ruin your fun yet?

the mods will do so in a few hours' time.
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Postby Suriyanakhon » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:48 pm

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Fahran wrote:Why are y'all so based?

Because we are all products of that famed and highly rigorous academy of philosophy and rhetoric, the RWDT.


I think we went to two entirely different places with the same name. :lol:
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:48 pm

Stellar Colonies wrote:Porn and misandry aren't very relevant to white supremacy, as much as it is interesting to argue about the former and hate on the slimy nastiness of the latter.


Porn will be very relevant to white supremacy when Operation Leftnostate goes into effect.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:49 pm

Punished UMN wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
...You really don't think people wouldn't make porn for free?

That's very naive of you.

Amateur pornography could easily be banned on the grounds that it is impossible to regulate it.


How about we not create victimless crimes, okay?
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Postby Western Fardelshufflestein » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:49 pm

Cekovia wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:Many Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminists are like that. They remind me of conservatives but are different in key details.

oh funny story about that one time i saw a self identified radfem on twitter who one of her first posts was calling a black woman the n-word. personally im not fond of feminism These days for reasons such as that. i think we should stick by All other women and only call minority men slurs

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Stellar Colonies wrote:Porn and misandry aren't very relevant to white supremacy, as much as it is interesting to argue about the former and hate on the slimy nastiness of the latter.

True. Technically threadjacking, although the latter is a form of discrimination.
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