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Do you think white supermascists should be able to express their views?

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Postby Drew Durrnil » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:35 pm

Cekovia wrote:
Western Fardelshufflestein wrote:I think this quote takes the cake.

OK: White supremacy and racism of any kind are inherently evil. Discuss.

i think that is a little bit Heavy handed. we can acknowledge that some things that people do as a result of racism r bad without condemning the entirety of the opinion

why did you say that colored people are inferior to white people?
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:35 pm

Kowani wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
I mean, to be fair, mixed race people are on average extremely attractive.

could we not


Look man, we all have our things.

I don't treat anyone differently because of that.

Cekovia wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:I know I'm not a moderator, but can we please get back to white supremacy, not porn.

yes yes ok Good point i get riled up Easily on that topic . anyway men of color are inferior to white people but i think that women of all races are equal


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Postby Fahran » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:35 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:I mean, to be fair, mixed race people are on average extremely attractive.

I don't actually disagree, but I'm not implicitly promoting weird racial eugenics based on that opinion. And, in any case, we could simply breed folks together based on how likely they are to produce attractive children if we're going to play that weird game.

Beyond that, people fetishizing your particular demographic can get weird really, really quickly.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:36 pm

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Austreylia wrote:I also doubt it.

I've never heard of anyone fetishizing mormons. They either are slightly perturbed by their practices or don't care either way about them.


I figured she was talking about being fetishized as a trans woman.

Neutraligon wrote:Jews are an ethnicity because there is no (or basically no) attempt to convert others to Judaism. This is not true for mormonism.


Yeah, the whole "mormons are a non-white ethnicity" thing reeks of being Rachael Dolezal 2.0. I've seen Cek's hands. They're white as hell.

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Aren't most Mormons of British Isles heritage? They never were non white in America.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:36 pm

Drew Durrnil wrote:
Cekovia wrote:i think that is a little bit Heavy handed. we can acknowledge that some things that people do as a result of racism r bad without condemning the entirety of the opinion

why did you say that colored people are inferior to white people?


Prolly because she's a fuckin' racist, my dude. Just a thought.
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Cekovia wrote:i think that is a little bit Heavy handed. we can acknowledge that some things that people do as a result of racism r bad without condemning the entirety of the opinion

why did you say that colored people are inferior to white people?

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Postby National Capitalist United States » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:36 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Kowani wrote:could we not


Look man, we all have our things.

I don't treat anyone differently because of that.

Cekovia wrote:yes yes ok Good point i get riled up Easily on that topic . anyway men of color are inferior to white people but i think that women of all races are equal


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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:37 pm

Western Fardelshufflestein wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:I know I'm not a moderator, but can we please get back to white supremacy, not porn.

I think this quote takes the cake.

OK: White supremacy and racism of any kind are inherently evil. Discuss.

It is evil and I do believe that people should have equal rights. I do not believe in criminalizing most forms of speech, but that does not mean I think that KKK arguments have any merit.
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Postby Kowani » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:37 pm

Cekovia wrote:
Western Fardelshufflestein wrote:I think this quote takes the cake.

OK: White supremacy and racism of any kind are inherently evil. Discuss.

i think that is a little bit Heavy handed. we can acknowledge that some things that people do as a result of racism r bad without condemning the entirety of the opinion

low quality bait, 1/10, try again

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Kowani wrote:i'm not certain if "positive" is accurate, either
the stereotypes leaned into are overwhelmingly negative


Definitely, but I was mostly referring to the “X race (or mixed race) people are hot.” which is technically positive but cringey and weird.

ahhhhhhhhh, yes, that's accurate

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Kowani wrote:could we not


Look man, we all have our things.

I don't treat anyone differently because of that.

i feel like you've missed the problem here
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Postby Drew Durrnil » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:37 pm

National Capitalist United States wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Look man, we all have our things.

I don't treat anyone differently because of that.



"christian"

Well, this exists

I think she's a racist and a feminist.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:37 pm

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But we all know racism is when you say mean things, and the more mean things you say, the racist-er it is.

Real talk, I know what it's like to be racially fetishized. For anyone wondering, it stops being fun after a while because people don't really like you for who you are. They like you for what you are. My ex girlfriend's family all but prayed that I was gonna knock her up and it genuinely disturbed me. Like I'm honored women are attracted to me, but it would be better if they were attracted to me and not just attracted to hispanics. Kinda throws my individuality in a garbage can and then lights the can on fire. Sadly, this happens everyday to alot of minorities in America, especially Asians.


Ok, and arguing that specific races are ‘hot’ aren’t the same thing by what reason?

Even though, really, within different peoples there’s all sorts of attractive and unattractive people.


Re read my comment and ask yourself, "is he being serious?"
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Postby Grenartia » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:37 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
I figured she was talking about being fetishized as a trans woman.



Yeah, the whole "mormons are a non-white ethnicity" thing reeks of being Rachael Dolezal 2.0. I've seen Cek's hands. They're white as hell.

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Aren't most Mormons of British Isles heritage? They never were non white in America.


Mostly, yeah. And there are a few non-white Mormons, but like, 99% of them are whiter than titanium dioxide.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:38 pm

Fahran wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:I mean, to be fair, mixed race people are on average extremely attractive.

I don't actually disagree, but I'm not implicitly promoting weird racial eugenics based on that opinion. And, in any case, we could simply breed folks together based on how likely they are to produce attractive children if we're going to play that weird game.

Beyond that, people fetishizing your particular demographic can get weird really, really quickly.


Fair, but let's move on now.
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Postby Fahran » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:38 pm

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Old Tyrannia wrote:This TBH. Or at least commercially produced pornography. But the main reason is that as soon as money exchanges hands, the concept of "consent" becomes highly dubious.


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Postby Punished UMN » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:38 pm

Kowani wrote:
Punished UMN wrote:I'd rather ban it for both reasons.

i'm curious on the how you'd ban it, personally

Elimination of money and ownership of the means of production in-common. There would be no economic demand for pornography and as such there would be no economic incentive to create it.
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Postby Neutraligon » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:39 pm

Cekovia wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:Jews are an ethnicity because there is no (or basically no) attempt to convert others to Judaism. This is not true for mormonism.

converted jews are not ethnic jews but heritage jews R . same thing for mormons. i am ethnically mormon but not religiously mormon. my mother is Religiously mormon but not ethnically mormon. pretty Simple

Not really, when the religion itself has a tendency to convert it ceases to be an ethnicity. actually Cek, I am not acting as a mod here but rather as a poster, I think it might be a good thing for you to step away from the keyboard.
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Postby Western Fardelshufflestein » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:39 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Western Fardelshufflestein wrote:I think this quote takes the cake.

OK: White supremacy and racism of any kind are inherently evil. Discuss.

It is evil and I do believe that people should have equal rights. I do not believe in criminalizing most forms of speech, but that does not mean I think that KKK arguments have any merit.

Yup. And in the US, it's literally illegal for governments to criminalize such speech, even if it's disgusting, because of the First Amendment.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:40 pm

National Capitalist United States wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Look man, we all have our things.

I don't treat anyone differently because of that.



"christian"

Well, this exists


It does, and it's both pseudoscientific and outright heretical. Next.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:40 pm

Drew Durrnil wrote:
National Capitalist United States wrote:Well, this exists

I think she's a racist and a feminist.

Many Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminists are like that. They remind me of conservatives but are different in key details.
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Postby Grenartia » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:40 pm

Punished UMN wrote:
Kowani wrote:i'm curious on the how you'd ban it, personally

Elimination of money and ownership of the means of production in-common. There would be no economic demand for pornography and as such there would be no economic incentive to create it.


So you support people freely choosing to share lewd pictures/videos/illustrations with other consenting adults? Based.
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Postby National Capitalist United States » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:40 pm

Drew Durrnil wrote:
National Capitalist United States wrote:Well, this exists

I think she's a racist and a feminist.

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Postby Fahran » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:40 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Aren't most Mormons of British Isles heritage? They never were non white in America.

When I become the CEO of Racism, I'll make Mormons and the Irish non-white and African-Americans and Latinos white.

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Postby Cekovia » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:41 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Drew Durrnil wrote:why did you say that colored people are inferior to white people?


Prolly because she's a fuckin' racist, my dude. Just a thought.

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National Capitalist United States wrote:Well, this exists

I think she's a racist and a feminist.

take that back eww one can be a misandrist without being a feminist!!!!
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Postby Drew Durrnil » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:41 pm

Western Fardelshufflestein wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:It is evil and I do believe that people should have equal rights. I do not believe in criminalizing most forms of speech, but that does not mean I think that KKK arguments have any merit.

Yup. And in the US, it's literally illegal for governments to criminalize such speech, even if it's disgusting, because of the First Amendment.

Unless it's extreme hate speech
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:41 pm

Western Fardelshufflestein wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:It is evil and I do believe that people should have equal rights. I do not believe in criminalizing most forms of speech, but that does not mean I think that KKK arguments have any merit.

Yup. And in the US, it's literally illegal for governments to criminalize such speech, even if it's disgusting, because of the First Amendment.

The way it should be. I can see the addition of fighting words being excluded once again, but yes, even bigoted opinions should be legal.
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