White Supremacy discussion thread

[Neu California]

I never said any such thing (and of course you know that - you just want to waste my time to try and get me fed up with this site - I can see right through you.) I am saying that as I belong to a sub-group of humanity, i.e. the White race, and as there exists a very potent racial conflict in America, in Europe, and in other regions of the world populated by Whites, I cannot take sides based on objective righteousness of cause.

I'm white as fuck (according to 23AndMe, I'm 99.9% white, and 0.1% undefined), living in a county that is only 30% white in a minority majority state (you should be able to guess which one based on my nation name), and I do not see this racial conflict you're talking about in any way, shape, or form. Could you provide some solid evidence of it?

I am as a pioneer in the untamed West. I am holding a rifle, with my wife and sons to my rear. A horde of Indians approach in the distance. I cannot afford to consider that they were here first, and that I am on 'their land'. I cannot negotiate with a spear, or co-exist with a throwing axe. I must stand and fight.

And how often does this sort of thing happen in modern America? It sounds like you just want to be a cowboy who wants to shoot at injuns. Also, in this scenario, how do you know they're hostile?

Yes it is. As I have said in an earlier post, the non-Hispanic White population of the United States has decreased from 85% in 1960 to 60% in 2019. This trend is continuing, and in fact at an even greater rate. This is ethnic replacement. We are becoming a minority.

And I would quite appreciate if in the future you could provide some counter-arguments rather than simply contradicting my statements.

Well, your statements are vague enough that arguing against them with more than contradictions isn't exactly straightforward. Also, what do you fear happening to us if we become a minority?

[Nilokeras]

I am not of the human collective. I am of the White race.

dominance of a small class of international capitalists

proof positive that all this nonsense about IQ points you were frantically googling and trying staying once step ahead of Kowani's big fact hammer about a few pages ago really was just window dressing

[All China]

What is the contradiction?

It was pointed out to you that Asians are superior in terms of intelligence, and you shifted the goalposts by referring to other supposedly "white traits". Now you repeat the claim that whites are more intelligent.

If I was a smart white supremacist I would just say the smart Asians are the white ones.

[Galloism]

TFW white supremacist logic leads to the conclusion that the white race is inherently inferior to another race.

Tbh, there’s few people more capable of dispelling the notion of racial superiority than white supremacists.

[Conservative Republic Of Huang]

TFW white supremacist logic leads to the conclusion that the white race is inherently inferior to another race.

In the early 20th century, the same people who clamored for Eastern European immigration exclusion on grounds of racial inferiority and to avoid the pollution of American racial stock were the same ones who wanted to exclude Japanese because they thought they were too hard working and generally superior and would outcompete Americans for jobs.

[East Blepia]

Of course if race were not important there would be no reason to make such a fuss about it. This is a very good point you have made. Why is racism so prevalent? Why do people like to rant and rave about the White race, and blonde-haired blue-eyed Aryans, and the dangers of race-mixing, if one's race is not important and racism is just pseudoscientific nonsense? Belief in racism hardly benefits a person. In 2021 in the Western world, open belief in racism, White superiority, &c. effectively make one an enemy of the state. One is liable to lose friends, to be banned from social media platforms, to be fired from one's job, to be publicly named and shamed by 'social justice warriors', and to even be despised by one's own family and children. These are all very great sacrifices, and it defies belief to say that one would make them simply to feel a greater degree of pride in himself, when he knew that his beliefs were false, and that all races were generally equal. The alternative is keeping private a very important belief, one which eventually causes the racist to believe that the entirety of society, the political, financial, and media establishment are his personal opponents, and the opponents of his people, wishing to bring in hordes of migrants for their power and profit. Further decrease of the White population of the United States, which has already declined from 85% in 1960 to just over 60% in 2019, and their replacement by less intelligent races, while the overall numerical population continues to expand, will inevitably lead to continued government deficits (in a country that is already heavily indebted with no hope of recovery in the foreseeable future), the decrease of the average American's quality of life, the continued dominance of a small class of international capitalists driving wages down and prices up, and the general destruction of America as we know it today. Race is not something to be trifled with.

I saw that Youtube video before! It was about the immigrants coming in and destroying the country and bringing in the prostitutes, right? It was like newgrounds animation before Youtube got bought by Google and they make everything politically correct. I recognize the scenario.

I recommend you something though. One is to break up your paragraphs. When English is not your first language it's hard to read with all the letters close together. Just makes easier to read your thoughts!

Alright. I will have to try to do that.

Two is to think who brings what you said. Migrants are all the rave in Europe right now. You think migrant and think not white, right? Migrant can be any color. Poverty is any color. Example, if I think white supremacist, I think trailer park poverty. It's bad, I know that! But it's stereotype, reality is that white supremacist can be anyone. Just like migrant can be anyone. People who hurt the quality of life of the country can be anyone.

Yes, but there are very few White or Asian migrants to Europe. The vast majority are Middle Eastern or African.

If your concern is the country, you should focus not on the race, but on the nationalism. America has the best nationalism story. Better than China. It's the "land of the free home of the brave". America has a great story behind it. You don't need race to make America great.

Both aspects are very important. If the racial composition of the United States is changed, not only will our economy and society suffer, our national identity will also necessarily change to put less emphasis on our origins as European colonists.

In fact, most of what America fails at is with race. Other countries saw America fight the Nazis, while having segregation with blacks. Contradictions hurt prestige. Your country suffers.

We did not enter the war for racial reasons. The Japanese attacked us at Pearl Harbor, and we had to respond.

If you want to protect America, you should get rid of the divisive elements in the country. Like white supremacy. It just makes people inefficient because they care about skin color too much and not enough about being productive members of society.

My productivity is not harmed by my belief in racism. If anything, what is hurting productivity is the constant insistence by liberals on the inclusion of Africans, women, &c. in the workplace.

[Ayytaly]

Did NS turn into /pol/?

TFW white supremacist logic leads to the conclusion that the white race is inherently inferior to another race.

In the early 20th century, the same people who clamored for Eastern European immigration exclusion on grounds of racial inferiority and to avoid the pollution of American racial stock were the same ones who wanted to exclude Japanese because they thought they were too hard working and generally superior and would outcompete Americans for jobs.

Ah, good ol' self-contradicting Nordicism. Or was it Anglosaxonism?

[Kowani]

I am not of the human collective. I am of the White race.

"white people aren't human" is the ultimate self-own

I never said any such thing (and of course you know that - you just want to waste my time to try and get me fed up with this site - I can see right through you.) I am saying that as I belong to a sub-group of humanity, i.e. the White race, and as there exists a very potent racial conflict in America, in Europe, and in other regions of the world populated by Whites, I cannot take sides based on objective righteousness of cause.

real quick, which of these two are white

I, my family, and my land are at risk.

no you're not

I am as a pioneer in the untamed West. I am holding a rifle, with my wife and sons to my rear. A horde of Indians approach in the distance. I cannot afford to consider that they were here first, and that I am on 'their land'. I cannot negotiate with a spear, or co-exist with a throwing axe. I must stand and fight.

i don't know what's more cringe, the LARP or that you can't recognize the difference between immigrants fleeing western colonialism and some sort of war

Yes it is. As I have said in an earlier post, the non-Hispanic White population of the United States has decreased from 85% in 1960 to 60% in 2019. This trend is continuing, and in fact at an even greater rate. This is ethnic replacement. We are becoming a minority.

firstly, that's not what "replacement" means
secondly, that's not what "minority" means
thirdly, that's not how extrapolation works

And I would quite appreciate if in the future you could provide some counter-arguments rather than simply contradicting my statements.

well last time i did that, it turned out you were citing a source which lied about its data, in addition to using data that was fundamentally incapable of saying anything substantial, and used that data improperly, and you turned and ran, so i figured you'd want to be avoid being embarrassed again. it appears i made a mistake on that front

[San Lumen]

I saw that Youtube video before! It was about the immigrants coming in and destroying the country and bringing in the prostitutes, right? It was like newgrounds animation before Youtube got bought by Google and they make everything politically correct. I recognize the scenario.

I recommend you something though. One is to break up your paragraphs. When English is not your first language it's hard to read with all the letters close together. Just makes easier to read your thoughts!

Alright. I will have to try to do that.

Two is to think who brings what you said. Migrants are all the rave in Europe right now. You think migrant and think not white, right? Migrant can be any color. Poverty is any color. Example, if I think white supremacist, I think trailer park poverty. It's bad, I know that! But it's stereotype, reality is that white supremacist can be anyone. Just like migrant can be anyone. People who hurt the quality of life of the country can be anyone.

Yes, but there are very few White or Asian migrants to Europe. The vast majority are Middle Eastern or African.

If your concern is the country, you should focus not on the race, but on the nationalism. America has the best nationalism story. Better than China. It's the "land of the free home of the brave". America has a great story behind it. You don't need race to make America great.

Both aspects are very important. If the racial composition of the United States is changed, not only will our economy and society suffer, our national identity will also necessarily change to put less emphasis on our origins as European colonists.

In fact, most of what America fails at is with race. Other countries saw America fight the Nazis, while having segregation with blacks. Contradictions hurt prestige. Your country suffers.

We did not enter the war for racial reasons. The Japanese attacked us at Pearl Harbor, and we had to respond.

If you want to protect America, you should get rid of the divisive elements in the country. Like white supremacy. It just makes people inefficient because they care about skin color too much and not enough about being productive members of society.

My productivity is not harmed by my belief in racism. If anything, what is hurting productivity is the constant insistence by liberals on the inclusion of Africans, women, &c. in the workplace.

Who cares if immigrants arent white? How will the the economy and society suffer? Being white doesn't;t make you special.

Not only are you racist but your a sexist? Do you have an issue with anyone other than white men in elected office or running a business?

[Senkaku]

I am not of the human collective. I am of the White race.

"white people aren't human" is the ultimate self-own

I never said any such thing (and of course you know that - you just want to waste my time to try and get me fed up with this site - I can see right through you.)

you said exactly that lmfao here's the quote if you don't remember

I am not of the human collective. I am of the White race.

I am saying that as I belong to a sub-group of humanity, i.e. the White race,

that literally is not what you were saying lol, you were saying you are white but are not human

[Conservative Republic Of Huang]

Also, I notice you keep specifying "non-Hispanic whites." Care to explain your racial standpoint towards Latinos?

[Senkaku]

Also, I notice you keep specifying "non-Hispanic whites." Care to explain your racial standpoint towards Latinos?

another famously homogenous and empirically valid racial classification lol

[Ayytaly]

Also, I notice you keep specifying "non-Hispanic whites." Care to explain your racial standpoint towards Latinos?

Non-Hispanic White = Anglo-Saxons/ Old Stock Whites

[Fansania]

Any expression of speech per-se shouldn't be a crime.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

It was pointed out to you that Asians are superior in terms of intelligence, and you shifted the goalposts by referring to other supposedly "white traits". Now you repeat the claim that whites are more intelligent.

If I was a smart white supremacist I would just say the smart Asians are the white ones.

Step 1. Provide IQ charts to prove white superiority.
Step 2. China's average IQ is 104.
Step 3. What?
Step 4. This can't be right. Let me find another chart.
Step 5. Ashkenazi Jews have an IQ in the 100s too?
Step 6. ...
Step 7. Stages of grief
Step 8. Insanity

[Ayytaly]

Alright. I will have to try to do that.


Yes, but there are very few White or Asian migrants to Europe. The vast majority are Middle Eastern or African.


Both aspects are very important. If the racial composition of the United States is changed, not only will our economy and society suffer, our national identity will also necessarily change to put less emphasis on our origins as European colonists.


We did not enter the war for racial reasons. The Japanese attacked us at Pearl Harbor, and we had to respond.


My productivity is not harmed by my belief in racism. If anything, what is hurting productivity is the constant insistence by liberals on the inclusion of Africans, women, &c. in the workplace.

Who cares if immigrants arent white? How will the the economy and society suffer? Being white doesn't;t make you special.

Not only are you racist but your a sexist? Do you have an issue with anyone other than white men in elected office or running a business?

Imagine if the next election was disputed between a South Asian man and a Germanic "pUrE aRyAn NoRdIc" woman. Whom would he choose?

[Fansania]

So long as we have freedom of speech, then yes, they should be allowed to express their views.

We also have the collective choice not to listen to said views however and choose to ignore them as well.

Or better yet, what about refuting those views that are detest-ful?

[East Blepia]

I never said any such thing (and of course you know that - you just want to waste my time to try and get me fed up with this site - I can see right through you.) I am saying that as I belong to a sub-group of humanity, i.e. the White race, and as there exists a very potent racial conflict in America, in Europe, and in other regions of the world populated by Whites, I cannot take sides based on objective righteousness of cause.

I'm white as fuck (according to 23AndMe, I'm 99.9% white, and 0.1% undefined), living in a county that is only 30% white in a minority majority state (you should be able to guess which one based on my nation name), and I do not see this racial conflict you're talking about in any way, shape, or form. Could you provide some solid evidence of it?

Well, living in California you should be very acquainted indeed with the BLM riots this past year, and before them the Rodney King riots, and before them the civil rights riots in the 60s and 70s. Regardless of the fact that some Whites support them, they are racial in nature. They are even framed in explicitly racial terms. Politics in this country is increasingly dominated by race. Blacks and Hispanics vote overwhelmingly for Democrats, and the majority of Whites (about 60%) voted for Republicans.

I am as a pioneer in the untamed West. I am holding a rifle, with my wife and sons to my rear. A horde of Indians approach in the distance. I cannot afford to consider that they were here first, and that I am on 'their land'. I cannot negotiate with a spear, or co-exist with a throwing axe. I must stand and fight.

And how often does this sort of thing happen in modern America? It sounds like you just want to be a cowboy who wants to shoot at injuns. Also, in this scenario, how do you know they're hostile?

I am not claiming that Whites are being forced to physically defend their homes (although it has happened - do you remember the photo which circulated last summer of a White husband and wife on their own property, armed and beholding a Black Lives Matter protest?) What I am saying is that forcible removal or oppression of Whites, either through legal or physical force, is not far off. Reparations are already being discussed by the federal government.

Yes it is. As I have said in an earlier post, the non-Hispanic White population of the United States has decreased from 85% in 1960 to 60% in 2019. This trend is continuing, and in fact at an even greater rate. This is ethnic replacement. We are becoming a minority.

And I would quite appreciate if in the future you could provide some counter-arguments rather than simply contradicting my statements.

Well, your statements are vague enough that arguing against them with more than contradictions isn't exactly straightforward. Also, what do you fear happening to us if we become a minority?

Expulsion, seizure of wealth and property, forcible payment of reparations, murder, rape, the deterioration of society, of the economy, general destruction of the United States as we know it. And I do not have to speculate - this is essentially what happened in Rhodesia and South Africa.

[Ayytaly]

So long as we have freedom of speech, then yes, they should be allowed to express their views.

We also have the collective choice not to listen to said views however and choose to ignore them as well.

Or better yet, what about refuting those views that are detest-ful?

Unfortunately, confirmation bias is too strong among them.

[Suriyanakhon]

You're complaining about European countries taking in immigrants while defending a bunch of Europeans going to another country and pushing drugs via force of arms when their government does not want them. The irony is extremely palpable.

i don't know why you expect any sort of consistency from sai when that consistency would require him to admit white people did bad things
this guy literally just ignores the holocaust in his evaluation of nazi germany

You're probably right and I'm being way too optimistic.

If anything was going to change his mind, it would have been said by now.

[East Blepia]

If I was a smart white supremacist I would just say the smart Asians are the white ones.

Step 1. Provide IQ charts to prove white superiority.
Step 2. China's average IQ is 104.
Step 3. What?
Step 4. This can't be right. Let me find another chart.
Step 5. Ashkenazi Jews have an IQ in the 100s too?
Step 6. ...
Step 7. Stages of grief
Step 8. Insanity

I never denied that Asians were on average smarter than Whites, or that Ashkenazi Jews, having a large degree of White ad-mixture, will have racial characteristics similar to Whites. This is a very common misconception among the opponents of our movement - that we claim that Whites are the clearly superior race in every field imaginable, which is obviously not true. What is true, though, is that Hispanics (almost of all of whom having mixed to some degree with Indians), Middle Easterners, and Africans are generally less intelligent than Whites, and that our replacement by these races will lead to the deterioration of our societies.

[Fahran]

Can anyone honestly say white supremacy has any benefit for the world?

Colonialism, in part spurred on by the concept of the white man's burden, often brought a violent to end to certain indigenous practices we'd likely all find objectionable. Think human sacrifice in Mexico, the infanticide of twins in Nigeria, ritualized cannibalism in Canada, or sati in India. Of course, Euros brought their own objectionable practices to these places a lot of the time and made up plenty of new ones too, but you asked if there was any benefit for the world at all. Note: this doesn't mean that white supremacy is good or desirable. Hitler was a vegan. Doesn't make him a good guy.

[San Lumen]

I'm white as fuck (according to 23AndMe, I'm 99.9% white, and 0.1% undefined), living in a county that is only 30% white in a minority majority state (you should be able to guess which one based on my nation name), and I do not see this racial conflict you're talking about in any way, shape, or form. Could you provide some solid evidence of it?

Well, living in California you should be very acquainted indeed with the BLM riots this past year, and before them the Rodney King riots, and before them the civil rights riots in the 60s and 70s. Regardless of the fact that some Whites support them, they are racial in nature. They are even framed in explicitly racial terms. Politics in this country is increasingly dominated by race. Blacks and Hispanics vote overwhelmingly for Democrats, and the majority of Whites (about 60%) voted for Republicans.

I am as a pioneer in the untamed West. I am holding a rifle, with my wife and sons to my rear. A horde of Indians approach in the distance. I cannot afford to consider that they were here first, and that I am on 'their land'. I cannot negotiate with a spear, or co-exist with a throwing axe. I must stand and fight.

And how often does this sort of thing happen in modern America? It sounds like you just want to be a cowboy who wants to shoot at injuns. Also, in this scenario, how do you know they're hostile?

I am not claiming that Whites are being forced to physically defend their homes (although it has happened - do you remember the photo which circulated last summer of a White husband and wife on their own property, armed and beholding a Black Lives Matter protest?) What I am saying is that forcible removal or oppression of Whites, either through legal or physical force, is not far off. Reparations are already being discussed by the federal government.

Yes it is. As I have said in an earlier post, the non-Hispanic White population of the United States has decreased from 85% in 1960 to 60% in 2019. This trend is continuing, and in fact at an even greater rate. This is ethnic replacement. We are becoming a minority.

And I would quite appreciate if in the future you could provide some counter-arguments rather than simply contradicting my statements.

Well, your statements are vague enough that arguing against them with more than contradictions isn't exactly straightforward. Also, what do you fear happening to us if we become a minority?

Expulsion, seizure of wealth and property, forcible payment of reparations, murder, rape, the deterioration of society, of the economy, general destruction of the United States as we know it. And I do not have to speculate - this is essentially what happened in Rhodesia and South Africa.

There is not going to be forcible removal or oppression of whites. That is flat out ridiculous. Do you believe only white men should be in positions of power both in elected office and in business?

What is special about being white?

[All China]

Two is to think who brings what you said. Migrants are all the rave in Europe right now. You think migrant and think not white, right? Migrant can be any color. Poverty is any color. Example, if I think white supremacist, I think trailer park poverty. It's bad, I know that! But it's stereotype, reality is that white supremacist can be anyone. Just like migrant can be anyone. People who hurt the quality of life of the country can be anyone.

Yes, but there are very few White or Asian migrants to Europe. The vast majority are Middle Eastern or African.

Do the vast majority of the migrants eat pork? Do they have beauty or are they hideous? These are useless categories. They are migrants. You'd be better to focus on tangible things like if they are poor, criminals, or have connections to terrorist organizations. Those things affect peoples decisions. Not what pigment their skin is.

Example, people from northern china have different traits than from southern china. But nobody considers this a race or skin issue. It's about behavior. Family. Culture. Values. If the southerner has brown skin that just tells you they are tan. If their children have brown skin, that just tells you the parents have brown skin. It doesn't tell you if they will benefit the country.

If your concern is the country, you should focus not on the race, but on the nationalism. America has the best nationalism story. Better than China. It's the "land of the free home of the brave". America has a great story behind it. You don't need race to make America great.

Both aspects are very important. If the racial composition of the United States is changed, not only will our economy and society suffer, our national identity will also necessarily change to put less emphasis on our origins as European colonists.

Does being European colonists help? If I remember, the Irish were not white, yet were part of the American Revolution. So I don't see the contradiction if there were the not white people participating.

Similarly, in China's revolution there were many different races. You can see in my flag. Red stands for Han. That doesn't mean the Han blood is the most important blood. It just means the culture and nationality is about the values that come with being Han. If you want to be Manchu, you can be Manchu, but nobody will ask if you have the Manchu bloodline.

Might as well ask if you have history of hypertension!

In fact, most of what America fails at is with race. Other countries saw America fight the Nazis, while having segregation with blacks. Contradictions hurt prestige. Your country suffers.

We did not enter the war for racial reasons. The Japanese attacked us at Pearl Harbor, and we had to respond.

America did more than respond to Japan. They freed the Jews from camps. And set up the United Nations afterward.

If you want to protect America, you should get rid of the divisive elements in the country. Like white supremacy. It just makes people inefficient because they care about skin color too much and not enough about being productive members of society.

My productivity is not harmed by my belief in racism. If anything, what is hurting productivity is the constant insistence by liberals on the inclusion of Africans, women, &c. in the workplace.

I would understand you if you gave me an idea of what these Africans and women do. Skillset is not limited to race or gender. If you are so bothered by their skin color, that affects your productivity because it distracts you. Distrust your coworkers. Makes disunity in the workplace. Not good for business!

[Suriyanakhon]

Why do people like to rant and rave about the White race, and blonde-haired blue-eyed Aryans, and the dangers of race-mixing, if one's race is not important and racism is just pseudoscientific nonsense?

Because they like to believe that the pseudoscientific nonsense is real, why else?

The whole “blonde haired blue eyed Aryan” is literally pseudoscience perpetrated by the British Empire to delegitimize Indian's claim to their culture because they refused to believe such allegedly inferior people could have produced some of the world's greatest literature and works of art.