White Supremacy discussion thread

[New yugoslavaia]

It is the continued existence of my phenotype and of a White majority anywhere in the world that is at stake. Of course I'm going to care and be concerned if it is fact that majority White countries are fading towards non-existence because of ruinous trends being brought about by globalization among other factors.

Just say you're racist and move on, please.

He's not even a strong racist. He's afraid of white people disappearing just because he likes people being white.

Wonder if he considers Jews white.

[Walloona]

I must add: White people only really started emerging when the migration the Europe was occurring. How are they superior to any other race just by the amount of melanin content their skin contains? Explain that ya Wackos. Checkmate.

[Samudera Darussalam]

Just say you're racist and move on, please.

He's not even a strong racist. He's afraid of white people disappearing just because he likes people being white.

Wonder if he considers Jews white.

Or African albinos for that matter. I've seen some photos of them and skin tone-wise, I think they would pass as 'Whites' if other factors are ignored.

[New yugoslavaia]

He's not even a strong racist. He's afraid of white people disappearing just because he likes people being white.

Wonder if he considers Jews white.

Or African albinos for that matter. I've seen some photos of them and skin tone-wise, I think they would past as 'Whites' if other factors are ignored.

I just searched them up and...
Thank you for minding my today break.

[Fahran]

I must add: White people only really started emerging when the migration the Europe was occurring. How are they superior to any other race just by the amount of melanin content their skin contains? Explain that ya Wackos. Checkmate.

Somewhat better adapted to living at latitudes distant from the equater than certain other races?

[Blue Nagia]

I feel in all of the rush to fight Saiwania (and in my inability to keep-up with the speed of this trash-fire of a thread), Kowani’s enormous effortpost on racial resentment went under-appreciated, and I wanna say that I think that was one of the most interesting effortposts I’ve read on NationStates in a long time.

aww, thank you!
hm
i don't know if i should do a follow-up on possible ways to lessen racism or not
it would probably be much more experimental
...and require more graphs

I would very much like to see this.

Honestly, the world needs all the theory and study it can get on reducing racism, even if it's experimental/speculative. It's easy to just say "racism is bad", but what do we do about it?

[Walloona]

I must add: White people only really started emerging when the migration the Europe was occurring. How are they superior to any other race just by the amount of melanin content their skin contains? Explain that ya Wackos. Checkmate.

Somewhat better adapted to living at latitudes distant from the equater than certain other races?

Again, from the melanin content. Lots of the stuff ain’t gonna go down well with the climate, so that’s why we became paler. Yet, that one simple fact that does not make a difference, (as it is outweighed by white peoples inability to inhabit locations close to the equator effectively.) ALSO:
It’s pretty much obsolete nowadays.

[Kowani]

aww, thank you!
hm
i don't know if i should do a follow-up on possible ways to lessen racism or not
it would probably be much more experimental
...and require more graphs

I would very much like to see this.

Honestly, the world needs all the theory and study it can get on reducing racism, even if it's experimental/speculative. It's easy to just say "racism is bad", but what do we do about it?

give me...
a while
i'll probably also hit things that don't work, and some obstacles

[Zurkir]

Somewhat better adapted to living at latitudes distant from the equater than certain other races?

Again, from the melanin content. Lots of the stuff ain’t gonna go down well with the climate, so that’s why we became paler. Yet, that one simple fact that does not make a difference, (as it is outweighed by white peoples inability to inhabit locations close to the equator effectively.) ALSO:
It’s pretty much obsolete nowadays.

Nick Cannon, is that you?

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Just say you're racist and move on, please.

He's not even a strong racist. He's afraid of white people disappearing just because he likes people being white.

Wonder if he considers Jews white.

He does consider Ashkenazi Jews white.

So basically these are the non whites: https://images.app.goo.gl/qX7Eb9koDXXZMz6E8

And here's the whites: https://images.app.goo.gl/p4AHRJjmzvo1o5V38

[Fahran]

Again, from the melanin content. Lots of the stuff ain’t gonna go down well with the climate, so that’s why we became paler. Yet, that one simple fact that does not make a difference, (as it is outweighed by white peoples inability to inhabit locations close to the equator effectively.) ALSO:
It’s pretty much obsolete nowadays.

Boo!

[Suriyanakhon]

What kind of question is this?

if white people mixed with other races so much that it wouldn't be considered a race anymore, would racism get better, worse, or be unchanged?

Whenever people say that racism would go away if there were no more white people, I think of Southeast Asia...

[Zurkir]

if white people mixed with other races so much that it wouldn't be considered a race anymore, would racism get better, worse, or be unchanged?

Whenever people say that racism would go away if there were no more white people, I think of Southeast Asia...

Let me be the ignorant one here and ask; why?

[Samudera Darussalam]

Whenever people say that racism would go away if there were no more white people, I think of Southeast Asia...

Let me be the ignorant one here and ask; why?

Well, racism against the Chinese is the thing in SEA. There is also - in Indonesia's case - against the Papuans too.

[Zurkir]

Let me be the ignorant one here and ask; why?

Well, racism against the Chinese is the thing in SEA. There is also - in Indonesia's case - against the Papuans too.

Ah, okay. So just other acts of racism then. I thought there was something more specific to their example.

But anyway, the whole “no more white people = no more racism” I’m sorry to say is just flat ignorant and shouldn’t even have to be explained IMO.

[Suriyanakhon]

Whenever people say that racism would go away if there were no more white people, I think of Southeast Asia...

Let me be the ignorant one here and ask; why?

A very violent history of ethnic conflict, and often a fusion of race and religion which the Rohingya Crisis is one example of.

[Zurkir]

Let me be the ignorant one here and ask; why?

A very violent history of ethnic conflict, and often a fusion of race and religion which the Rohingya Crisis is one example of.

Yes, I’m familiar with the ethnic strife of that part of the world, I thought you were alluding to something else. Disregard me, my lightbulb is dim today...

[Samudera Darussalam]

Well, racism against the Chinese is the thing in SEA. There is also - in Indonesia's case - against the Papuans too.

Ah, okay. So just other acts of racism then. I thought there was something more specific to their example.

But anyway, the whole “no more white people = no more racism” I’m sorry to say is just flat ignorant and shouldn’t even have to be explained IMO.

Oh, okay

An article from the Jakarta Globe;

"In Surabaya, a mob surrounded a Papuan students' dormitory, effectively holding them hostage, as security officers looked on.
Videos spread on social media showing some of the mob shouting "Monkey!" at the Papuan students inside the compound."

[New haven america]

How many George Floyd protestors tried to overthrow the government and hang white nationalist flags in the Capitol Building?

1. " wHaT aBoUt- "

2. Weird, it's almost like both sides have factions that have been dangerously radicalized over the last 4 years....

1. No, I'm taling about shit that actually happened because Trump and other Reps told them to do it.
2. 1 side fighting for civil rights (That only ever became violent due to the side about to be mentioned) while the other side fights to keep systematic oppression in place. (The side that caused protester's to become violent)

Yeah, I don't think they're comparable.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Whenever people say that racism would go away if there were no more white people, I think of Southeast Asia...

Let me be the ignorant one here and ask; why?

In Myanmar, the current military junta wants to wipe out the Rohynga minority. I believe they also waged a genocide campaign against the Karen people too.

And in Cambodia under Pol Pot, immigrants from Vietnam, China and Laos were genocided.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

What kind of question is this?

if white people mixed with other races so much that it wouldn't be considered a race anymore, would racism get better, worse, or be unchanged?

Considering that genes don't work the way Sai thinks where everyone mixes and automatically becomes the same brown skintone, there would still be colorism like in Latin America mixed with racial bigotry.

I am 15% west African in ancestry and yet my mom (who most of the African DNA comes from) has said some questionable stuff about black people before.

[Saiwania]

Why would the Arab invasion of Spain in the 700s necessitate, say, the Spanish sack of Tenochtitlan over 800 years later and a continent away? Or the British bombardment of Canton or the French Voulet-Chanoine mission or the German Herero genocide or- well, you get the point.

The Canton system was no good. Qing China was ripping Great Britain off in demanding that to get tea, piles of silver needed to be paid and that Canton was the only city where trade could be conducted because China thought of itself as the celestial kingdom or center of the world that was too good for any outside influence. Maybe China's tribute system was so unreasonable that it pushed Britain into wanting to sell Opium to China because it was the one thing that British India had that was in very high demand, enough so to close the huge trade deficit between Britain and Qing China.

[Atheris]

Whenever people say that racism would go away if there were no more white people, I think of Southeast Asia...

Let me be the ignorant one here and ask; why?

Pol Pot, the dictator of Democratic Kampuchea (in modern day Cambodia; 1975-1979), committed a genocide worse than the Holocaust during his rule.*

*And yes, it did kill less people, but not by much; and when you take into account the percentage of people it killed, it killed a higher percentage of people. Pol Pot killed a little less of a quarter of Cambodia's population, including 100% of Cambodian Viets. Hitler killed around 63% of the Jewish population, 2.8% of the Soviet population, and around 8% of the Polish population. Pot killed 100% of Cambodian Viets and over 90% of Cambodian Christians, Cham (Muslim minorities; similar to Hui or Uyghurs in China), Thais, intellectuals, and over 80% of Cambodian Chinese. If 25% of Germany's 1941 population was killed, that would be equal to the Holocaust and Eastern European genocides plus another Generalplan Ost.

Keep in mind that while Germany's murder system was basically industrialized murder, it was also used as slave labor. Pot's murder system was solely based around murder, not labor. Prisoners were killed with pickaxes because bullets were too expensive and babies and young children were [GORE] swung against trees until they died, usually by the legs. Entire fields were made into mass graves. People were killed for knowing another language or simply just wearing glasses. The Documentation Center of Cambodia has found 23,745 killing fields, all of which had mass graves. Some victims were forced to dig their own graves, not dissimilar to the Rape of Nanking during the Second Sino-Japanese War. The aftermath of Khmer Rouge rule was so bad that Cambodia had to be placed under UN rule, the only universally recognized country to do so (Kosovo was also placed under UN mandate but is not recognized by a little less than half of the world).

It's not an exaggeration to say that the Cambodian Genocide was the worst genocide in modern history, and potentially all of recorded history in general. In fact, I wouldn't even call it solely a genocide. It was some twisted mix of genocide, ethnocide (the mass murder of a culture, confusingly separate from genocide), and populicide (the indiscriminate mass murder of peoples).

[Suriyanakhon]

Why would the Arab invasion of Spain in the 700s necessitate, say, the Spanish sack of Tenochtitlan over 800 years later and a continent away? Or the British bombardment of Canton or the French Voulet-Chanoine mission or the German Herero genocide or- well, you get the point.

The Canton system was no good. Qing China was ripping Great Britain off in demanding that to get tea, piles of silver needed to be paid and that Canton was the only city where trade could be conducted because China thought of itself as the celestial kingdom or center of the world that was too good for any outside influence. Maybe China's tribute system was so unreasonable that it pushed Britain into wanting to sell Opium to China because it was the one thing that British India had that was in very high demand, enough so to close the huge trade deficit between Britain and Qing China.

You're complaining about European countries taking in immigrants while defending a bunch of Europeans going to another country and pushing drugs via force of arms when their government does not want them. The irony is extremely palpable.

[Saiwania]

You're complaining about European countries taking in immigrants while defending a bunch of Europeans going to another country and pushing drugs via force of arms when their government does not want them. The irony is extremely palpable.

The British only wanted fair trading terms with China at the time. It simply isn't true that the British were pouring into China with the intention of settling there, like is the case for non-Whites from poorer countries purposely traveling to Whiter, richer countries to stay.