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Do you think white supermascists should be able to express their views?

Yes
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No
484
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Depends
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Altan Ulus
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Postby Altan Ulus » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:50 pm

For what it's worth, I've never met or heard from a female white supremacist.

It always tends to be the men who fetishize the military and feel insecure in themselves that push white supremacy. You don't see any blonde-haired blue-eyed fräulein saying Hitler was right anymore.

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Postby San Lumen » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:51 pm

Altan Ulus wrote:For what it's worth, I've never met or heard from a female white supremacist.

It always tends to be the men who fetishize the military and feel insecure in themselves that push white supremacy. You don't see any blonde-haired blue-eyed fräulein saying Hitler was right anymore.


Im sure they exist.

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Postby Genivaria » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:52 pm

Altan Ulus wrote:For what it's worth, I've never met or heard from a female white supremacist.

It always tends to be the men who fetishize the military and feel insecure in themselves that push white supremacy. You don't see any blonde-haired blue-eyed fräulein saying Hitler was right anymore.

Curious example I once brought up on the RWDT.

Mary Sophia Allen OBE (12 March 1878 – 16 December 1964) was a British political activist known for her defence of women's rights in the 1910–1920s and later involvement with British fascism. She is chiefly noted as one of the early leaders of the Women's Police Volunteers. Allen repeatedly sought to challenge or modernise the existing systems of the time, ensuring the Women's Police Service could become an auxiliary force after women were admitted into certain British police forces. She stood once for the House of Commons as an Independent Liberal, turning over her Women's Auxiliary Service to breaking the General Strike of 1926. Thereafter she met and talked with European fascists and anti-communist brigades, entailing frequent trips abroad and publicly joining the British Union of Fascists in 1939. In retirement Allen was an activist for animal rights.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Sophia_Allen

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Nakena
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Postby Nakena » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:52 pm

Altan Ulus wrote:For what it's worth, I've never met or heard from a female white supremacist.

It always tends to be the men who fetishize the military and feel insecure in themselves that push white supremacy. You don't see any blonde-haired blue-eyed fräulein saying Hitler was right anymore.


Hey I got news for you... https://www.newsweek.com/miss-hitler-be ... ot-1127009

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/s ... 12216.html

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Stellar Colonies
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:55 pm

Altan Ulus wrote:For what it's worth, I've never met or heard from a female white supremacist.

It always tends to be the men who fetishize the military and feel insecure in themselves that push white supremacy. You don't see any blonde-haired blue-eyed fräulein saying Hitler was right anymore.

I wouldn't be surprised if a great many racial supremacists were female, although them being a majority certainly would be.

Edit: A lot of them would probably be crossovers between some strains of misandrists and white supremacists whom are against immigration from non-Western countries.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:00 pm

Nakena wrote:
Altan Ulus wrote:For what it's worth, I've never met or heard from a female white supremacist.

It always tends to be the men who fetishize the military and feel insecure in themselves that push white supremacy. You don't see any blonde-haired blue-eyed fräulein saying Hitler was right anymore.


Hey I got news for you... https://www.newsweek.com/miss-hitler-be ... ot-1127009

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/s ... 12216.html

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wow, I cant believe this, but it's apparently true.
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Postby New haven america » Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:02 pm

Altan Ulus wrote:For what it's worth, I've never met or heard from a female white supremacist.

It always tends to be the men who fetishize the military and feel insecure in themselves that push white supremacy. You don't see any blonde-haired blue-eyed fräulein saying Hitler was right anymore.

You know male white supremacists tend to get married to female white supremacists, right?

Or how a decent chunk of The Insurrectionists on Jan. 6th were women?
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Fahran
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Postby Fahran » Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:02 pm

Saiwania wrote:It is likely that Jewish culture insisted on remaining separate from the surrounding community and their neighbors didn't want to tolerate their presence as a minority.

In the nineteenth century, the often cited problem was that we were becoming too similar to the Gentiles.

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Kowani
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Postby Kowani » Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:04 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Kowani wrote:you know, there's one thing i can always count on with nazis
doesn't matter how open they are about it, every nazi will blame the people they want to oppress for their oppression
it's like an abusive partner asking "why are you making me hit you?", only with genocide


There is valid speculation about why Jews were persecuted for so long in so many places, because it is true for the most part that in nearly every Jewish diaspora, the Jews got kicked out of the countries they were trying to immigrate to or settle in or turned the local majorities against them for one reason or another.

It is likely that Jewish culture insisted on remaining separate from the surrounding community and their neighbors didn't want to tolerate their presence as a minority.

Anyone remember in the 2016 GOP primaries, Marco Rubio got caught using the same, recycled line that he'd prepped ahead of time, got called out on it, and then used it again? (if you haven't, watch, it's hilarious)
but that's you
you're Marco Rubio
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Postby New haven america » Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:04 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Kowani wrote:you know, there's one thing i can always count on with nazis
doesn't matter how open they are about it, every nazi will blame the people they want to oppress for their oppression
it's like an abusive partner asking "why are you making me hit you?", only with genocide


There is valid speculation about why Jews were persecuted for so long in so many places, because it is true for the most part that in nearly every Jewish diaspora, the Jews got kicked out of the countries they were trying to immigrate to or settle in or turned the local majorities against them for one reason or another.

It is likely that Jewish culture insisted on remaining separate from the surrounding community and their neighbors didn't want to tolerate their presence as a minority.

Sai, chances are when you go outside you'll run into 1-5 Jewish people a day without even knowing it.
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Postby Bombadil » Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:09 pm

New haven america wrote:
Altan Ulus wrote:For what it's worth, I've never met or heard from a female white supremacist.

It always tends to be the men who fetishize the military and feel insecure in themselves that push white supremacy. You don't see any blonde-haired blue-eyed fräulein saying Hitler was right anymore.

You know male white supremacists tend to get married to female white supremacists, right?

Or how a decent chunk of The Insurrectionists on Jan. 6th were women?


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Postby Fahran » Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:12 pm

Nakena wrote:
Altan Ulus wrote:For what it's worth, I've never met or heard from a female white supremacist.

It always tends to be the men who fetishize the military and feel insecure in themselves that push white supremacy. You don't see any blonde-haired blue-eyed fräulein saying Hitler was right anymore.


Hey I got news for you... https://www.newsweek.com/miss-hitler-be ... ot-1127009

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/s ... 12216.html

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I'm tempted to enter for the lulz.

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:13 pm

Altan Ulus wrote:For what it's worth, I've never met or heard from a female white supremacist.

It always tends to be the men who fetishize the military and feel insecure in themselves that push white supremacy. You don't see any blonde-haired blue-eyed fräulein saying Hitler was right anymore.


I knew an Italian girl who was racist against minorities although idk if she was a full on neo nazi. I just thought it was hilarious watching her hate on new immigrants when her own family basically got let into the white race circa 1950.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:14 pm



Are you visibly non white? If not, then go for it and then drop a bomb on them when you say "I'm Jewish."
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Postby Kowani » Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:16 pm

Nakena wrote:
Altan Ulus wrote:For what it's worth, I've never met or heard from a female white supremacist.

It always tends to be the men who fetishize the military and feel insecure in themselves that push white supremacy. You don't see any blonde-haired blue-eyed fräulein saying Hitler was right anymore.


Hey I got news for you... https://www.newsweek.com/miss-hitler-be ... ot-1127009

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/s ... 12216.html

Image

There was one in 2020 as well, suggesting its a biannual thing
give it another year
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Postby Odreria » Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:17 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Altan Ulus wrote:For what it's worth, I've never met or heard from a female white supremacist.

It always tends to be the men who fetishize the military and feel insecure in themselves that push white supremacy. You don't see any blonde-haired blue-eyed fräulein saying Hitler was right anymore.

Curious example I once brought up on the RWDT.

Mary Sophia Allen OBE (12 March 1878 – 16 December 1964) was a British political activist known for her defence of women's rights in the 1910–1920s and later involvement with British fascism. She is chiefly noted as one of the early leaders of the Women's Police Volunteers. Allen repeatedly sought to challenge or modernise the existing systems of the time, ensuring the Women's Police Service could become an auxiliary force after women were admitted into certain British police forces. She stood once for the House of Commons as an Independent Liberal, turning over her Women's Auxiliary Service to breaking the General Strike of 1926. Thereafter she met and talked with European fascists and anti-communist brigades, entailing frequent trips abroad and publicly joining the British Union of Fascists in 1939. In retirement Allen was an activist for animal rights.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Sophia_Allen

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Postby Stellar Colonies » Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:17 pm

Regarding female Neo-Nazis

td:lr
At least 1/5 Neo-Nazis are female, one was involved in a notorious hate crime streak in Germany, they tend to be involved in activities which would draw more attention if done by a male Neo-Nazi (peddling Nazi shlock to children, imaging members of anti-Nazi marches, etc.)
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Postby Saiwania » Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:18 pm

Altan Ulus wrote:For what it's worth, I've never met or heard from a female white supremacist.


That doesn't matter to me or to a lot of other people. Life is far more than just trying to get married or being a simp or chasing status. Perhaps some people are meant to be alone their whole life but are fine with it.

For me what matters when I'm on here, is what's going on in the world or if its political/ideological. Never about anything thats too personal life or insignificant.
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Postby Fahran » Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:20 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Are you visibly non white? If not, then go for it and then drop a bomb on them when you say "I'm Jewish."

I'm pretty white-ish, and I could probably pass myself off as a Gentile. But, yeah, while trolling Neo-Nazis is peak entertainment, I can't say I'm interested in playing that particular part for a wide number of reasons.

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Postby Fahran » Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:22 pm

Saiwania wrote:That doesn't matter to me or to a lot of other people. Life is far more than just trying to get married or being a simp or chasing status. Perhaps some people are meant to be alone their whole life but are fine with it.

I think getting married and having a family carries with it far more nobility than soldiering on for a bad cause.

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Postby Kowani » Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:22 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Altan Ulus wrote:For what it's worth, I've never met or heard from a female white supremacist.

It always tends to be the men who fetishize the military and feel insecure in themselves that push white supremacy. You don't see any blonde-haired blue-eyed fräulein saying Hitler was right anymore.

Curious example I once brought up on the RWDT.

Mary Sophia Allen OBE (12 March 1878 – 16 December 1964) was a British political activist known for her defence of women's rights in the 1910–1920s and later involvement with British fascism. She is chiefly noted as one of the early leaders of the Women's Police Volunteers. Allen repeatedly sought to challenge or modernise the existing systems of the time, ensuring the Women's Police Service could become an auxiliary force after women were admitted into certain British police forces. She stood once for the House of Commons as an Independent Liberal, turning over her Women's Auxiliary Service to breaking the General Strike of 1926. Thereafter she met and talked with European fascists and anti-communist brigades, entailing frequent trips abroad and publicly joining the British Union of Fascists in 1939. In retirement Allen was an activist for animal rights.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Sophia_Allen
Allen met a number of fascist leaders abroad, including Eoin O'Duffy in Ireland, Franco in Spain, Mussolini in Italy, and Hitler and Göring in Germany. Although her links to Oswald Mosley's British Union of Fascists were unofficial until 1939, she engaged in various militant activities, including the formation of the Women's Reserve in 1933, which was intended to serve the country in the event of subversive forces taking over. The publicity for the Women's Reserve reveals her fascist sympathies, and her fear of communism.

every damn time
fascism is the response of fear, always has been
no wonder its always such an incoherent mess
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Postby Fahran » Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:23 pm

Kowani wrote:every damn time
fascism is the response of fear, always has been
no wonder its always such an incoherent mess

Why fear communists when you can Bismarck them instead?

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Postby Stellar Colonies » Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:24 pm

Kowani wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Curious example I once brought up on the RWDT.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Sophia_Allen
Allen met a number of fascist leaders abroad, including Eoin O'Duffy in Ireland, Franco in Spain, Mussolini in Italy, and Hitler and Göring in Germany. Although her links to Oswald Mosley's British Union of Fascists were unofficial until 1939, she engaged in various militant activities, including the formation of the Women's Reserve in 1933, which was intended to serve the country in the event of subversive forces taking over. The publicity for the Women's Reserve reveals her fascist sympathies, and her fear of communism.

every damn time
fascism is the response of fear, always has been
no wonder its always such an incoherent mess

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Postby Kowani » Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:29 pm

Fahran wrote:
Kowani wrote:every damn time
fascism is the response of fear, always has been
no wonder its always such an incoherent mess

Why fear communists when you can Bismarck them instead?

do you want a joke answer or a serious one


Stellar Colonies wrote:
Kowani wrote:
Allen met a number of fascist leaders abroad, including Eoin O'Duffy in Ireland, Franco in Spain, Mussolini in Italy, and Hitler and Göring in Germany. Although her links to Oswald Mosley's British Union of Fascists were unofficial until 1939, she engaged in various militant activities, including the formation of the Women's Reserve in 1933, which was intended to serve the country in the event of subversive forces taking over. The publicity for the Women's Reserve reveals her fascist sympathies, and her fear of communism.

every damn time
fascism is the response of fear, always has been
no wonder its always such an incoherent mess

*obligatory Yoda quote*

ironically, yoda's conservatism (along with serious organizational problems with the jedi order) were some of the largest holes through palpatine could sneak his plan to undermine the (admittedly corrupt and massively dysfunctional) Republic and bring about the (also corrupt and massively dysfunctional) Empire
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Postby Fahran » Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:31 pm

Kowani wrote:do you want a joke answer or a serious one

The serious answer is "Questers will take your horse away."

Give me the joke answer.

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