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Do you think white supermascists should be able to express their views?

Yes
529
40%
No
484
37%
Depends
283
21%
Other
25
2%
 
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Cartheen
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Postby Cartheen » Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:23 pm

Islamic Holy Sites wrote:
Cartheen wrote:
no, racism is not against the law.

That wasn't what I was taught.

Well i'm not sure what to tell you, because it is indeed legal to be racist
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The Huskar Social Union
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:24 pm

Mannixa Prime wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Hmmm? How is it cringe worthy?

Black women are not objects for white liberals to spite white racists thanks

Im a socialist actually not al iberal and i originally said it to him in a thread where he was crying his eyes out about how white people shouldn't be going with black people and how interracial marriage shouldn't be allowed because it leads to mixed kids. Also Ill say whatever the fuck i want unless it violates the rules.
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Alcala-Cordel
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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:25 pm

Do you think white supermascists should be able to express their views?

No, and I don't care that it's free speech. White supremacists have nothing good to contribute whatsoever.
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Islamic Holy Sites
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Postby Islamic Holy Sites » Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:25 pm

Cartheen wrote:
Islamic Holy Sites wrote:That wasn't what I was taught.

Well i'm not sure what to tell you, because it is indeed legal to be racist

Then it shouldn't.
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Cartheen
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Postby Cartheen » Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:27 pm

Islamic Holy Sites wrote:
Cartheen wrote:Well i'm not sure what to tell you, because it is indeed legal to be racist

Then it shouldn't.

why?
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Alcala-Cordel
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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:27 pm

Mannixa Prime wrote:
Western Theram wrote:you mean like china? cause that's exactly what they are. do you know what capitalism means? do you understand that state capitalism is still capitalism right? unless you're talking about fascism (which if you are that's hilarious cause fascism is inheritly capitalist) Image

"State capitalism is an economic system in which the state undertakes business and commercial economic activity (i.e. for-profit) and where the means of production are organized and managed as state-owned enterprises (including the processes of capital accumulation, centralized management and wage labor), or where there is otherwise a dominance of corporatized government agencies (agencies organized along business-management practices) or of public companies such as publicly listed corporations in which the state has controlling shares."

Holy fuck

Fascism is capitalism in decay.
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Mannixa Prime
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Postby Mannixa Prime » Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:27 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Mannixa Prime wrote:Black women are not objects for white liberals to spite white racists thanks

Im a socialist actually not al iberal and i originally said it to him in a thread where he was crying his eyes out about how white people shouldn't be going with black people and how interracial marriage shouldn't be allowed because it leads to mixed kids. Also Ill say whatever the fuck i want unless it violates the rules.

Wow what a rebel
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Islamic Holy Sites
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Postby Islamic Holy Sites » Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:28 pm

Cartheen wrote:
Islamic Holy Sites wrote:Then it shouldn't.

why?

Because it is harassment and evil, that's why. Why do you ask?
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:28 pm

Mannixa Prime wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Im a socialist actually not al iberal and i originally said it to him in a thread where he was crying his eyes out about how white people shouldn't be going with black people and how interracial marriage shouldn't be allowed because it leads to mixed kids. Also Ill say whatever the fuck i want unless it violates the rules.

Wow what a rebel

Got an x wing and all pew pew
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Cartheen
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Postby Cartheen » Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:28 pm

Alcala-Cordel wrote:
Do you think white supermascists should be able to express their views?

No, and I don't care that it's free speech. White supremacists have nothing good to contribute whatsoever.


Free speech isn't about allowing viewpoints viewed as good, it's about allowing people to speak their minds without getting persecuted for it.
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Western Theram
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Postby Western Theram » Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:28 pm

in germany any portrayal of nazism is illegal. does that mean there aren't nazis in germany? no but there's certainly alot less of them there then use to be
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Postby Vorausen » Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:29 pm

Western Theram wrote:in germany any portrayal of nazism is illegal. does that mean there aren't nazis in germany? no but there's certainly alot less of them there then use to be



Or rather we think there are a lot less, but we can not honestly tell because the portrayal of Nazism is illegal there.

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Atheris
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Postby Atheris » Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:30 pm

Islamic Holy Sites wrote:
Cartheen wrote:Well i'm not sure what to tell you, because it is indeed legal to be racist

Then it shouldn't.

Yes, it should. Free speech is one of, if not the most important, tenets of free society.
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Alcala-Cordel
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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:30 pm

Cartheen wrote:
Alcala-Cordel wrote:No, and I don't care that it's free speech. White supremacists have nothing good to contribute whatsoever.


Free speech isn't about allowing viewpoints viewed as good, it's about allowing people to speak their minds without getting persecuted for it.

I know, the thing is I'm not exactly against persecuting open fascists
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Islamic Holy Sites
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Postby Islamic Holy Sites » Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:31 pm

Cartheen wrote:
Alcala-Cordel wrote:No, and I don't care that it's free speech. White supremacists have nothing good to contribute whatsoever.


Free speech isn't about allowing viewpoints viewed as good, it's about allowing people to speak their minds without getting persecuted for it.

Then we should scrap free speech and make a new system.
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Vorausen
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Postby Vorausen » Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:31 pm

Atheris wrote:
Islamic Holy Sites wrote:Then it shouldn't.

Yes, it should. Free speech is one of, if not the most important, tenets of free society.


My point exactly. :bow: :bow:

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Western Theram
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Postby Western Theram » Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:32 pm

Alcala-Cordel wrote:
Mannixa Prime wrote:Holy fuck

Fascism is capitalism in decay.

lenin right?
considering the state of germany in the 1920s id say he was right
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Postby Islamic Holy Sites » Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:32 pm

Vorausen wrote:
Western Theram wrote:in germany any portrayal of nazism is illegal. does that mean there aren't nazis in germany? no but there's certainly alot less of them there then use to be



Or rather we think there are a lot less, but we can not honestly tell because the portrayal of Nazism is illegal there.

That means there are roughly 0 Nazi portryals.
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Postby South Reinkalistan » Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:33 pm

Atheris wrote:
Islamic Holy Sites wrote:Then it shouldn't.

Yes, it should. Free speech is one of, if not the most important, tenets of free society.

au contraire

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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:33 pm

Western Theram wrote:
Alcala-Cordel wrote:Fascism is capitalism in decay.

lenin right?
considering the state of germany in the 1920s id say he was right

Could be lenin, he might not have actually said it though. Good quote regardless, and definitely accurate to 1920s Germany.
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Postby Islamic Holy Sites » Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:33 pm

Atheris wrote:
Islamic Holy Sites wrote:Then it shouldn't.

Yes, it should. Free speech is one of, if not the most important, tenets of free society.

How about controlled free speech?
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Postby Conservative Republic Of Huang » Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:34 pm

Cartheen wrote:
Alcala-Cordel wrote:No, and I don't care that it's free speech. White supremacists have nothing good to contribute whatsoever.


Free speech isn't about allowing viewpoints viewed as good, it's about allowing people to speak their minds without getting persecuted for it.

There are certain types of speech that are criminalized, such as speech that may cause imminent violent action. We don't consider that to be a violation of free speech. Propagating fascism, I would say, is incitement to violent action, if not necessarily imminent.
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The Huskar Social Union
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:34 pm

Islamic Holy Sites wrote:
Atheris wrote:Yes, it should. Free speech is one of, if not the most important, tenets of free society.

How about controlled free speech?

hmmm
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Postby South Reinkalistan » Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:34 pm

Alcala-Cordel wrote:
Western Theram wrote:lenin right?
considering the state of germany in the 1920s id say he was right

Could be lenin, he might not have actually said it though. Good quote regardless, and definitely accurate to 1920s Germany.

lenin didn't say it, i don't think he was particularly lucid when fascism arose

it was r. palme dutt of the cpgb who said that iirc
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Cartheen
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Postby Cartheen » Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:34 pm

Islamic Holy Sites wrote:
Atheris wrote:Yes, it should. Free speech is one of, if not the most important, tenets of free society.

How about controlled free speech?

that's not free speech
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