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Postby San Lumen » Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:59 am

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politi ... s-n1263814

Will Smith movie 'Emancipation' abandons Georgia over voting restrictions

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Really? It's fucking paywalled.

What does the article say? All I see is "subscribe to Washington Post to read this article."
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No no no ! It's antifa doing false flag attacks using the jewish space lasers. Or Muslims. Or BLM. Or something. But it can't be due to 4 years of a president openly endorsing white supremacists, bragging about sexual assault, encouraging the violent invasion of the capitol to overthrow an election, ...


Antifa is both a bunch of soyboys and also a major threat to the western world. These and more big brained ideas brought to you by Turning Point Donald Trump.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:54 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Kilobugya wrote:
No no no ! It's antifa doing false flag attacks using the jewish space lasers. Or Muslims. Or BLM. Or something. But it can't be due to 4 years of a president openly endorsing white supremacists, bragging about sexual assault, encouraging the violent invasion of the capitol to overthrow an election, ...


Antifa is both a bunch of soyboys and also a major threat to the western world. These and more big brained ideas brought to you by Turning Point Donald Trump.

Soy actually makes people into legendarily powerful warriors. See: tofu chomping samurai casually slicing tanks in half.

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Postby Zurkir » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:57 am

Ifreann wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Antifa is both a bunch of soyboys and also a major threat to the western world. These and more big brained ideas brought to you by Turning Point Donald Trump.

Soy actually makes people into legendarily powerful warriors. See: tofu chomping samurai casually slicing tanks in half.


I’ve had soy burgers before and I’ll be honest I felt dumb just for paying that much for something that’s a poor tasting substitute for beef.
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This has been known for quite some time. While there are certainly incidents of left-wing domestic terrorism in America, it pales in comparison to how many more incidents there are from far-right groups. However, you don't hear about it as much on conservative media due to, well, them not covering it much.

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Really? It's fucking paywalled.

What does the article say? All I see is "subscribe to Washington Post to read this article."


I can get you the text but it is a shit ton. Let me know.

San Lumen wrote:https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/will-smith-movie-emancipation-abandons-georgia-over-voting-restrictions-n1263814

Will Smith movie 'Emancipation' abandons Georgia over voting restrictions


Georgia was becoming an increasingly attractive place- an alternative to Hollywood. Seems now they're starting to abandon that. That will hurt Georgia I feel though it seems Kemp is ready to use the race card; he has already regarding the MLB pulling out, saying "Pulling All-Star game out of Atlanta will hurt business owners of color", which is probably is true but it would hurt small businesses overall though I think Blacks are not going to be fooled by that.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:12 am

Zurkerx wrote:


This has been known for quite some time. While there are certainly incidents of left-wing domestic terrorism in America, it pales in comparison to how many more incidents there are from far-right groups. However, you don't hear about it as much on conservative media due to, well, them not covering it much.

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Really? It's fucking paywalled.

What does the article say? All I see is "subscribe to Washington Post to read this article."


I can get you the text but it is a shit ton. Let me know.

San Lumen wrote:https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/will-smith-movie-emancipation-abandons-georgia-over-voting-restrictions-n1263814

Will Smith movie 'Emancipation' abandons Georgia over voting restrictions


Georgia was becoming an increasingly attractive place- an alternative to Hollywood. Seems now they're starting to abandon that. That will hurt Georgia I feel though it seems Kemp is ready to use the race card; he has already regarding the MLB pulling out, saying "Pulling All-Star game out of Atlanta will hurt business owners of color", which is probably is true but it would hurt small businesses overall though I think Blacks are not going to be fooled by that.


Its likely going to increase turnout among blacks and in urban areas further.

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Postby Zurkerx » Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:34 am

The Biden Administration has secured agreements with Mexico, Honduras and Guatemala to secure their borders.

San Lumen wrote:Its likely going to increase turnout among blacks and in urban areas further.


Tough to say: these kind of laws do make it harder for minorities to vote given how strict they are. It will all depend on how much Abrams and Democrats can educate said voters and get them to turnout with ease.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:03 am

Zurkerx wrote:The Biden Administration has secured agreements with Mexico, Honduras and Guatemala to secure their borders.

San Lumen wrote:Its likely going to increase turnout among blacks and in urban areas further.


Tough to say: these kind of laws do make it harder for minorities to vote given how strict they are. It will all depend on how much Abrams and Democrats can educate said voters and get them to turnout with ease.

Abrams is going to do all she can.

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Matt Gaetz may have tried to meet with Trump at Mar-a-Lago, only to be rebuffed

Rep. Matt Gaetz, who's facing a federal investigation into sex trafficking allegations, was recently denied a meeting with Donald Trump at his Mar-a-Lago estate as the ex-President and his allies continue to distance themselves from the Florida congressman.

Two people familiar with the matter said Gaetz tried to schedule a visit with Trump after it was first revealed that he was being investigated, but the request was rejected by aides close to the former President, who have urged Trump not to stick his neck out to defend Gaetz. Harlan Hill, a spokesman for Gaetz, said the congressman did not request a meeting with Trump this week.
"Rep. Gaetz was welcomed to Trump Doral this week and has not sought to meet with President Trump himself," Hill said in a statement to CNN, claiming that Gaetz has "been mostly relaxing with his fiancée this week during recess."
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:38 am

https://newjerseyglobe.com/governor/mcc ... crats-say/

McCormick petitions are fraudulent, maybe criminal, N.J. Democrats say

Alleging the possibility that gubernatorial candidate Lisa McCormick submitted fraudulent nominating petitions, the New Jersey Democratic State Committee wants her removed from primary election ballot and has asked the Division of Elections to refer the case to law enforcement as a potential criminal act.

“The voters who are claimed to have signed Ms. McCormick’s petition did not in fact sign it, did not authorize their names to be used, and most importantly did not even know that their names or electronic signatures were being utilized by the McCormick campaign,” said Raj Parikh, the counsel to the state party.

McCormick, a shadowy perennial candidate, is challenging Gov. Phil Murphy in the Democratic primary.

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Postby Eahland » Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:08 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
That's the Nazi concept of the term. But the term exists outside of Nazism.

That's just what the word means. Look at the definitions. Not simply bad or immoral or disgusting, but having fallen below some standard, having diminished from some previously desirable state, having lost the qualities proper to the species or kind. If the Nazis were degenerates, then they were at some point good and moral and strong or whatever but then lost those traits and deteriorated. And that's clearly not accurate, the Nazis were total pieces of shit before they were even organised into a Nazi Party. Or how about Matt Gaetz, is he a good man who somehow lost his goodness and then set about committing sex crimes? Obviously I don't know him personally, but that doesn't seem plausible to me. He's probably been more or less the same his whole adult life.

The Republicans were once upon a time the party of Lincoln, the party of abolition, the party that defended the Union against racist traitors trying to tear it apart, the party that brought freedom and voting rights to millions of Americans. They are now the party of Trump, the party working to turn immigrants into the new de facto slave race, the party that supported a coup attempt by racist traitors, the party working to take freedom and voting rights away from millions of Americans. I am totally comfortable with characterizing the modern Republican Party as degenerate.
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Postby Salus Maior » Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:37 pm

Kowani wrote:Matt Gaetz may have tried to meet with Trump at Mar-a-Lago, only to be rebuffed

Rep. Matt Gaetz, who's facing a federal investigation into sex trafficking allegations, was recently denied a meeting with Donald Trump at his Mar-a-Lago estate as the ex-President and his allies continue to distance themselves from the Florida congressman.

Two people familiar with the matter said Gaetz tried to schedule a visit with Trump after it was first revealed that he was being investigated, but the request was rejected by aides close to the former President, who have urged Trump not to stick his neck out to defend Gaetz. Harlan Hill, a spokesman for Gaetz, said the congressman did not request a meeting with Trump this week.
"Rep. Gaetz was welcomed to Trump Doral this week and has not sought to meet with President Trump himself," Hill said in a statement to CNN, claiming that Gaetz has "been mostly relaxing with his fiancée this week during recess."


Gaetz, dude, just give yourself up at this point.

Keep a shred of dignity.
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Postby Zurkir » Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:40 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Kowani wrote:Matt Gaetz may have tried to meet with Trump at Mar-a-Lago, only to be rebuffed

Rep. Matt Gaetz, who's facing a federal investigation into sex trafficking allegations, was recently denied a meeting with Donald Trump at his Mar-a-Lago estate as the ex-President and his allies continue to distance themselves from the Florida congressman.

Two people familiar with the matter said Gaetz tried to schedule a visit with Trump after it was first revealed that he was being investigated, but the request was rejected by aides close to the former President, who have urged Trump not to stick his neck out to defend Gaetz. Harlan Hill, a spokesman for Gaetz, said the congressman did not request a meeting with Trump this week.
"Rep. Gaetz was welcomed to Trump Doral this week and has not sought to meet with President Trump himself," Hill said in a statement to CNN, claiming that Gaetz has "been mostly relaxing with his fiancée this week during recess."


Gaetz, dude, just give yourself up at this point.

Keep a shred of dignity.


At this point he’s just grabbing for anything to keep from going under, so to speak. Panic/Fear can make one lose the concept of pride and dignity.
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Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




The triumph of the Democracy is essential to the struggle of popular liberty


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Seems to be gang related from other stuff I'm seeing so I imagine this will vanish from the headlines pretty quickly. People don't seem to care when poor people shoot each other.
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How shit is it that one of the first bellweathers that we're 'back to normal' is that shootings start happening...
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Mon Apr 12, 2021 5:47 pm

Zurkerx wrote:


This has been known for quite some time. While there are certainly incidents of left-wing domestic terrorism in America, it pales in comparison to how many more incidents there are from far-right groups. However, you don't hear about it as much on conservative media due to, well, them not covering it much.

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Really? It's fucking paywalled.

What does the article say? All I see is "subscribe to Washington Post to read this article."


I can get you the text but it is a shit ton. Let me know.


Yeah I'm interested to read it. I wanna see how bad it is.
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Postby Kowani » Mon Apr 12, 2021 5:49 pm

Biden looks to extend Trump sentencing guidelines

THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION is expected to announce support this week for the temporary extension of a Trump-era policy expanding mandatory minimum sentencing to cover a range of fentanyl-related substances. More than 100 civil rights, public health, and criminal justice advocacy groups sent a letter last week urging Congress and President Joe Biden to oppose any extension of the Trump policy.

The administration can’t extend the policy without congressional action, which it is expected to support during a Wednesday hearing on substance use before the House Energy and Commerce Committee, according to two groups on the letter and several Democratic aides. The aides note that the administration will likely request additional time to explore the policy’s ramifications and has not yet decided whether it will adopt a full extension. [...]THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION started classwide scheduling of fentanyl analogues in 2018. The policy put a wide range of substances with a chemical structure similar to fentanyl on Schedule I of the Controlled Substances Act, expanding the application of mandatory minimum sentencing laws to all fentanyl analogues. “But chemical structure alone cannot predict how a drug will affect the human brain,” the letter claims, citing a neurobiologist’s testimony before the House Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, and Homeland Security, “and not all fentanyl analogues are harmful.”

The Trump policy, set to expire in May, gives the Drug Enforcement Administration unlimited power to determine the legality of substances while cutting scientists and public health experts out of the conversation. This limits their ability to study certain prohibited drugs, which can prove crucial for developing therapies. Spokespersons from the Justice Department “repeatedly, erroneously, have claimed that failure to enact class-wide scheduling would ‘legalize’ harmful fentanyl analogues,” the letter continues, citing a Washington Post op-ed by former Attorney General Bill Barr with the title, “Fentanyl could flood the country unless Congress passes this bill.” The sale of fentanyl analogues can be prosecuted whether or not they are scheduled, and the policy imposes harsher sentences for possession.

According to a report by the United States Sentencing Commission, prosecution of federal fentanyl offenses increased by close to 4,000 percent between 2015 and 2019, and prosecution of fentanyl analogues increased by well over 5,000 percent since 2016. As the letter points out, those prosecutions involved significant racial disparities, “with people of color comprising almost 75% of those sentenced in fentanyl cases in 2019.” The same was true of sentencing for fentanyl analogues, with people of color comprising 68 percent of people sentenced.
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Postby Munchers » Mon Apr 12, 2021 5:50 pm



Teachers need to be armed, also armed security guards and metal detectors.

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Postby San Lumen » Mon Apr 12, 2021 5:51 pm

Munchers wrote:


Teachers need to be armed, also armed security guards and metal detectors.


Yes that's the solution. More guns. Why don't we just make gun ownership mandatory?

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