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Mystickystuff wrote:

Page wrote:
The law has never once considered that there is a small amount of juveniles worthy of being allowed to drink, gamble, have sex, or vote. Why should crime be the one thing in society where children are treated as adults?

The law might be wrong. The law might violate children's rights on the basis that it's been doing so since forever. Since patriarchy, since matriarchy, since before there was any government to guarantee the rights of anyone. The protector and provider, was also the owner and master, and as for a slave it is impossible for children to fight back against oppression. They can, and do, "run away from home".

The next step in children's liberation is to legalize and support running away from home. There should be Free Children's Communes.

You point is correct of course. Children are not fully responsible for their actions, while still under the coercion of someone else.

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:

Mystickystuff wrote:
The law might be wrong. The law might violate children's rights on the basis that it's been doing so since forever. Since patriarchy, since matriarchy, since before there was any government to guarantee the rights of anyone. The protector and provider, was also the owner and master, and as for a slave it is impossible for children to fight back against oppression. They can, and do, "run away from home".

The next step in children's liberation is to legalize and support running away from home. There should be Free Children's Communes.

You point is correct of course. Children are not fully responsible for their actions, while still under the coercion of someone else.

Children can't even avoid putting hazardous things in their mouths purely out of curiosity and you expect them to be able to govern themselves?

Where the fuck do people get these wack ideas from, smh.

Mystickystuff wrote:

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Children can't even avoid putting hazardous things in their mouths purely out of curiosity and you expect them to be able to govern themselves?

Where the fuck do people get these wack ideas from, smh.

From the future, my friend. From the future.

Mystickystuff wrote:

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
That's not forward thinking, that's stupid thinking. Get over yourself.

You think children should be held legally responsible for doing things they should know are Wrong. Does it follow that children "putting hazardous things in their mouths" should be removed to a mental hospital (regardless of what they or their parents want) for attempting suicide?

Vassenor wrote:

Mystickystuff wrote:
The US overall has a bit more than ONE QUARTER the population DENSITY of Europe.

The most righteous train systems are in cities or extended metro areas, where population density is high.

You might find this interesting: https://moverdb.com/us-states-europe-population/

Yes, but the Soviet Union managed to run an effective cross-country rail network over a larger and less densely populated area.

Mystickystuff wrote:

Kilobugya wrote:
Yeahhh ! Trains ! But what ? Means Colorado doesn't have any passenger trains at all now ? What a depressing place !

The US overall has a bit more than ONE QUARTER the population DENSITY of Europe.

The most righteous train systems are in cities or extended metro areas, where population density is high.

You might find this interesting: https://moverdb.com/us-states-europe-population/

The Reformed American Republic wrote:

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Children can't even avoid putting hazardous things in their mouths purely out of curiosity and you expect them to be able to govern themselves?

Where the fuck do people get these wack ideas from, smh.

I don't know if they're being serious or not, but if they are, it seems like some on the left wants to give the more fringe elements on the right a run for their money when it comes to wacky ideas.

The Alma Mater wrote:

Mystickystuff wrote:
The US overall has a bit more than ONE QUARTER the population DENSITY of Europe.

The most righteous train systems are in cities or extended metro areas, where population density is high.

You might find this interesting: https://moverdb.com/us-states-europe-population/

One could always force Americans to stop spreading and start concentrating. Would severely reduce commuting distances (the climate thanks you), make infrastructure much easier to manage and would get rid of the whole "land does not vote, people do" debate at elections

The Alma Mater wrote:

Mystickystuff wrote:
The US overall has a bit more than ONE QUARTER the population DENSITY of Europe.

The most righteous train systems are in cities or extended metro areas, where population density is high.

You might find this interesting: https://moverdb.com/us-states-europe-population/

One could always force Americans to stop spreading and start concentrating. Would severely reduce commuting distances (the climate thanks you), make infrastructure much easier to manage and would get rid of the whole "land does not vote, people do" debate at elections

Mystickystuff wrote:

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Thanks but no thanks. I did city living for a long time and would never go back, it's so much unhealthier than living out where I do now.

Of course you can opt out. Do not be surprised if the costs (or requirements to do-it-yourself) increase though. And if you live in the back of nowhere, don't expect government to spend millions on a bridge to your place ...

Punished UMN wrote:

Mystickystuff wrote:
Of course you can opt out. Do not be surprised if the costs (or requirements to do-it-yourself) increase though. And if you live in the back of nowhere, don't expect government to spend millions on a bridge to your place ...

It's not even a health issue, it's much cheaper to live in the countryside because cities lead to wealth concentration. There's no part of any city you can live in that isn't already owned by someone else, and they have zero incentive to sell it to you, unlike in the countryside where people will actually sell you a place to live instead of continuously extorting you for the remainder of your life.

San Lumen wrote:

Punished UMN wrote:It's not even a health issue, it's much cheaper to live in the countryside because cities lead to wealth concentration. There's no part of any city you can live in that isn't already owned by someone else, and they have zero incentive to sell it to you, unlike in the countryside where people will actually sell you a place to live instead of continuously extorting you for the remainder of your life.

Not all cities are expensive.

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Asked this on the cops thread but the Jan 6th attack on DC was still really horrifically bad right?

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Asked this on the cops thread but the Jan 6th attack on DC was still really horrifically bad right?

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Asked this on the cops thread but the Jan 6th attack on DC was still really horrifically bad right?

Was still? When was it not really horrifically bad?

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Asked this on the cops thread but the Jan 6th attack on DC was still really horrifically bad right?

It was the American equivalent of the Beer Hall Putsch.

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Asked this on the cops thread but the Jan 6th attack on DC was still really horrifically bad right?

It was the American equivalent of the Beer Hall Putsch.

USS Monitor wrote:

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
It was the American equivalent of the Beer Hall Putsch.

^This.

We really need to come down on the rioters and be on our guard against further Naziing.

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Asked this on the cops thread but the Jan 6th attack on DC was still really horrifically bad right?

Was still? When was it not really horrifically bad?

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:

USS Monitor wrote:
^This.

We really need to come down on the rioters and be on our guard against further Naziing.

The rioters are either in jail or being hunted. It's not them I'm worried about.

It's the fifth columnists in Congress and the ex-President that were in on it and have so far gotten away with it that unnerves me.

Vassenor wrote:

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Was still? When was it not really horrifically bad?

Apparently because no shots were fired we're not allowed to call it a coup attempt.

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:

USS Monitor wrote:
^This.

We really need to come down on the rioters and be on our guard against further Naziing.

The rioters are either in jail or being hunted. It's not them I'm worried about.

It's the fifth columnists in Congress and the ex-President that were in on it and have so far gotten away with it that unnerves me.

USS Monitor wrote:

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
The rioters are either in jail or being hunted. It's not them I'm worried about.

It's the fifth columnists in Congress and the ex-President that were in on it and have so far gotten away with it that unnerves me.

That's where the 2nd part, being on guard against further Naziing comes in. Voting rights needs to be a top priority for Dems. There's lots of other things that are worth doing, but we need to protect voting rights so the Nazi types don't come in and wreck everything else.

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
The rioters are either in jail or being hunted. It's not them I'm worried about.

It's the fifth columnists in Congress and the ex-President that were in on it and have so far gotten away with it that unnerves me.

At this point I really wonder what it'll take to hold Trump legally responsible for shit. He's gotten away with too much for too long.