American Politics Thread V: We're Just Biden Our Time ...

[Kowani]

States threaten to pull business from banks which don't fund coal

More than a dozen Republican state treasurers are threatening to pull assets from large financial institutions if they agree to decarbonize their lending and investment portfolios, Axios has learned.

The Biden administration — led by special presidential climate envoy John Kerry — has leaned on the banks to help reduce U.S. carbon emissions. That's prompted GOP lawmakers to criticize efforts to "de-bank" fossil fuel firms. The treasurers collectively control hundreds of billions worth of assets.

Fifteen of them, led by coal-heavy West Virginia, say they're prepared to use this financial muscle to push back.
The effort includes treasurers from other states with large energy industry presences such as North Dakota, Kentucky, Pennsylvania and Oklahoma.

The state officials sent a letter on Tuesday to Kerry, who's leading the administration's efforts to enlist banks in its climate policy fight.
"We intend to put banks and financial institutions on notice of our position, as we urge them not to give in to pressure from the Biden administration to refuse to lend to or invest in coal, oil and natural gas companies," the officials wrote.
In an interview with Axios, West Virginia state Treasurer Riley Moore said he was prepared to terminate contracts with banks that pull back their fossil fuel industry lending in response to administration pressure.
"Frankly, it is not fair for the people of West Virginia to allow a bank to handle our money when they're diametrically opposed to our way of life," Moore said.
What they're saying: Moore called the issue "a matter of life and death for my people."

He said coal and gas operators in his state have reported difficulties obtaining financing from banks blaming pressure from the Biden administration to try to "green" their portfolios.
"If you just cut these guys off at the knees — gas and coal in a state like West Virginia — and they can no longer conduct their business ... it is going to destroy us," Moore said. He cited the industries' heavy jobs footprint and contributions to the state's tax base.
"At no point has Secretary Kerry pressured financial institutions into making commitments," a State Department spokesperson said in an emailed statement. "On the contrary, many financial institutions have reached out to Secretary Kerry to initiate conversations regarding the financial risks and potential opportunities related to climate change."

The state officials signing the letter collectively manage more than $600 billion in assets in state treasuries, pension funds and other government accounts, according to publicly available financials and information provided by the state treasurer offices.

Those states work with large financial institutions to invest and grow those funds, to support state spending and retirement payments to former workers.
Even for sizable investment banks, such funds can be some of their largest accounts.

[The Black Forrest]

Great Post Saiwania, we strongly agree on this one, and all Proud Republican Trump Supporters, Pro USA, USA, USA, American Nationalist Patriot Republican Cultists Citizens with Pride and Honor, like myself strongly agree with you on this one.

Hes not pro legal immigration Alberto. He wants ICE to remove you from America too because he's a white nationalist.

Might mention he also lives in Iceland…..

[Thermodolia]

Sai. Buddy. Pal. Take a moment and re-read what you just said. Do you really wanna die on this hill? Really?

If he were 19 or a few years older, yeah- he should've had ample time to become aware of the law to some extent, along with his rights/obligations as an adult but if he was indeed only 18, I have reason to believe that its not going to hurt him one bit, especially if it can be painted as two high school peers dating, even if it may've been illegal technically at the time. Its not a given that all such cases wind up getting enforced.

High school age is more or less ages 14 to 18 or grades 9 to 12 for K-12's 15 or so years of education (if pre-school or pre-K is included). In such an environment, there probably are 18 year olds still consorting with those younger than them than is the case at a college where nearly everyone is 18 or older.

To answer Atheris’ question, I guess you really do want to die on this hill

[The Black Forrest]

States threaten to pull business from banks which don't fund coal

More than a dozen Republican state treasurers are threatening to pull assets from large financial institutions if they agree to decarbonize their lending and investment portfolios, Axios has learned.

The Biden administration — led by special presidential climate envoy John Kerry — has leaned on the banks to help reduce U.S. carbon emissions. That's prompted GOP lawmakers to criticize efforts to "de-bank" fossil fuel firms. The treasurers collectively control hundreds of billions worth of assets.

Fifteen of them, led by coal-heavy West Virginia, say they're prepared to use this financial muscle to push back.
The effort includes treasurers from other states with large energy industry presences such as North Dakota, Kentucky, Pennsylvania and Oklahoma.

The state officials sent a letter on Tuesday to Kerry, who's leading the administration's efforts to enlist banks in its climate policy fight.
"We intend to put banks and financial institutions on notice of our position, as we urge them not to give in to pressure from the Biden administration to refuse to lend to or invest in coal, oil and natural gas companies," the officials wrote.
In an interview with Axios, West Virginia state Treasurer Riley Moore said he was prepared to terminate contracts with banks that pull back their fossil fuel industry lending in response to administration pressure.
"Frankly, it is not fair for the people of West Virginia to allow a bank to handle our money when they're diametrically opposed to our way of life," Moore said.
What they're saying: Moore called the issue "a matter of life and death for my people."

He said coal and gas operators in his state have reported difficulties obtaining financing from banks blaming pressure from the Biden administration to try to "green" their portfolios.
"If you just cut these guys off at the knees — gas and coal in a state like West Virginia — and they can no longer conduct their business ... it is going to destroy us," Moore said. He cited the industries' heavy jobs footprint and contributions to the state's tax base.
"At no point has Secretary Kerry pressured financial institutions into making commitments," a State Department spokesperson said in an emailed statement. "On the contrary, many financial institutions have reached out to Secretary Kerry to initiate conversations regarding the financial risks and potential opportunities related to climate change."

The state officials signing the letter collectively manage more than $600 billion in assets in state treasuries, pension funds and other government accounts, according to publicly available financials and information provided by the state treasurer offices.

Those states work with large financial institutions to invest and grow those funds, to support state spending and retirement payments to former workers.
Even for sizable investment banks, such funds can be some of their largest accounts.

Ok. Let them do it. How much of their investments are carbon based anyway?

[North Washington Republic]

States threaten to pull business from banks which don't fund coal

More than a dozen Republican state treasurers are threatening to pull assets from large financial institutions if they agree to decarbonize their lending and investment portfolios, Axios has learned.

The Biden administration — led by special presidential climate envoy John Kerry — has leaned on the banks to help reduce U.S. carbon emissions. That's prompted GOP lawmakers to criticize efforts to "de-bank" fossil fuel firms. The treasurers collectively control hundreds of billions worth of assets.

Fifteen of them, led by coal-heavy West Virginia, say they're prepared to use this financial muscle to push back.
The effort includes treasurers from other states with large energy industry presences such as North Dakota, Kentucky, Pennsylvania and Oklahoma.

The state officials sent a letter on Tuesday to Kerry, who's leading the administration's efforts to enlist banks in its climate policy fight.
"We intend to put banks and financial institutions on notice of our position, as we urge them not to give in to pressure from the Biden administration to refuse to lend to or invest in coal, oil and natural gas companies," the officials wrote.
In an interview with Axios, West Virginia state Treasurer Riley Moore said he was prepared to terminate contracts with banks that pull back their fossil fuel industry lending in response to administration pressure.
"Frankly, it is not fair for the people of West Virginia to allow a bank to handle our money when they're diametrically opposed to our way of life," Moore said.
What they're saying: Moore called the issue "a matter of life and death for my people."

He said coal and gas operators in his state have reported difficulties obtaining financing from banks blaming pressure from the Biden administration to try to "green" their portfolios.
"If you just cut these guys off at the knees — gas and coal in a state like West Virginia — and they can no longer conduct their business ... it is going to destroy us," Moore said. He cited the industries' heavy jobs footprint and contributions to the state's tax base.
"At no point has Secretary Kerry pressured financial institutions into making commitments," a State Department spokesperson said in an emailed statement. "On the contrary, many financial institutions have reached out to Secretary Kerry to initiate conversations regarding the financial risks and potential opportunities related to climate change."

The state officials signing the letter collectively manage more than $600 billion in assets in state treasuries, pension funds and other government accounts, according to publicly available financials and information provided by the state treasurer offices.

Those states work with large financial institutions to invest and grow those funds, to support state spending and retirement payments to former workers.
Even for sizable investment banks, such funds can be some of their largest accounts.

Do Republicans know that it is the free market economy that is mainly killing coal. Natural Gas is cheaper, and greener. I think this has to has more to do with the Republicans and their fake populism. The coal mines bygone era. Where a high school dropout can go to the mines, put in a days worth of work and get paid a living wage. Those days are gone now. This is why we should have free 2 year community collage so people can learn a new trade.

[Greater Miami Shores]

Dude, many times you have called me a Trump Cultist, have said to me Trump is my God Emperor President and my Messiah, in a negative sense.

The problem is you lack the ability to say he fucked up on anything. The worst you can say is he says mean things or you don’t agree with something. You automatically dismiss anything which paints him in a bad light. That’s pretty cultish.

Many leftists have also called me these names, and it is not actionable and I don't care anyway. So I explained to you the real reasons we are Proud Trump Cultists with Pride and Honor:

Celebrating ignorance is not some to be proud.

So I have a right and we have a right to say this many times:

So I coined on NS and discord, we are Proud Republican Trump Cultists, Pro USA, USA, USA, American, Nationalist Patriot Citizens of the USA, with Pride and Honor, just ask me and just ask us.

And?

Proud Ronald Reagan Cultists, Proud Eisenhower Cultists,

Not the same as Trump.

Proud Republican Governor of Florida, Ron DeSantis Cultists,

A wannabe Trump and if over time he is being investigated, you will be saying it’s a farce.

for the 3 Greatest American Presidents ever of the USA, and the Greatest Governor ever of the USA, with Pride and Honor, these are the real reasons we are Proud Cultists,

Ignorance is not something to be proud.

I didn’t like Reagan and I wasn’t around for Ike. To compare Trump to these two is laughable.

When I have posted it on the right media news sites I post on from time to time, they all strongly agree with me, even a few on NS and discord, and strongly disagree with the leftists definitions of why we are Proud Cultists, what a coincidence, I am not the only one with my views, what a coincidence they all strongly agree with me and have praised me for it? I Rest My Case.

You know when you rest your case, you are done talking right? As always; you didn’t do much.

Many of your sources are a problem. They peddle in conspiracy theories and make up “facts”. You always talk about bias and when you are given two sources noted to be without bias? You don’t read them. I understand. You get a warm cushy feeling living in an echo chamber.

It is not my fault and our fault you leftists strongly disagree with us, these are Facts. These are objective, logical and scientific Facts.

Problem ace. You don’t understand what the word fact means.

Here is a hint. An opinion is not a fact.

Here is a hint your opinions and my opinions, and all persons opinions are not Facts. Here we go again, Your sources and your fellow leftists sources are their Facts this is a Fact, My sources and my fellow right wingers sources are our Facts, this is Fact. It is called Human Nature. Bias or not decided by leftists, If I and us were to post sources to you leftists, you leftist dismiss them anyway. Dude, I once posted a video link from Politico, proving the charges of the Ambassadors against President Trump were based on their assumptions not facts like they admitted on the Video from Politico, all you leftists dismissed it anyway, and one leftist called me a liar before I posted the video, after I posted the video proving my Point, I asked him to apologize and I would thank him for it, the leftist never apologized, I was not surprised or shocked, I expected it.

I explained to you many times , President Trump is one of the 3 Greatest American Presidents ever of the USA, too us, so no wonder we cant strongly criticize him the way you leftists want us to? It is not my fault and our fault you leftists strongly disagree with us, oh well that is not my problem, that is not our problem, we have no problems. Since you and many leftists call me many times, a Resident Cultist, A Trump Cultist, and say President Trump is my Messiah and President Trump is my God Emperor President in a negative sense, I and us can say it again many times:

We know we are Proud Trump Cultists, Proud Ronald Reagan Cultists, Proud Eisenhower Cultists, Proud Ron DeSantis Cultists, for the 3 Greatest American Presidents ever of the USA, and the Greatest Governor ever of the USA, just ask me, just ask us, too us, the only Facts that matter in this case are what we say and what we know, your leftists views are irrelevant. But I will never cross out any persons words, because they are relevant to them. I suggested to the Mods in a very well written introduction post they should not allow it, it is very disrespectful to the leftists and right wingers, but all you leftists and the Moderators strongly disagreed with me, and I have moved on from the issue. But I will never cross out another persons words.

[Cannot think of a name]

States threaten to pull business from banks which don't fund coal

More than a dozen Republican state treasurers are threatening to pull assets from large financial institutions if they agree to decarbonize their lending and investment portfolios, Axios has learned.

The Biden administration — led by special presidential climate envoy John Kerry — has leaned on the banks to help reduce U.S. carbon emissions. That's prompted GOP lawmakers to criticize efforts to "de-bank" fossil fuel firms. The treasurers collectively control hundreds of billions worth of assets.

Fifteen of them, led by coal-heavy West Virginia, say they're prepared to use this financial muscle to push back.
The effort includes treasurers from other states with large energy industry presences such as North Dakota, Kentucky, Pennsylvania and Oklahoma.

The state officials sent a letter on Tuesday to Kerry, who's leading the administration's efforts to enlist banks in its climate policy fight.
"We intend to put banks and financial institutions on notice of our position, as we urge them not to give in to pressure from the Biden administration to refuse to lend to or invest in coal, oil and natural gas companies," the officials wrote.
In an interview with Axios, West Virginia state Treasurer Riley Moore said he was prepared to terminate contracts with banks that pull back their fossil fuel industry lending in response to administration pressure.
"Frankly, it is not fair for the people of West Virginia to allow a bank to handle our money when they're diametrically opposed to our way of life," Moore said.
What they're saying: Moore called the issue "a matter of life and death for my people."

He said coal and gas operators in his state have reported difficulties obtaining financing from banks blaming pressure from the Biden administration to try to "green" their portfolios.
"If you just cut these guys off at the knees — gas and coal in a state like West Virginia — and they can no longer conduct their business ... it is going to destroy us," Moore said. He cited the industries' heavy jobs footprint and contributions to the state's tax base.
"At no point has Secretary Kerry pressured financial institutions into making commitments," a State Department spokesperson said in an emailed statement. "On the contrary, many financial institutions have reached out to Secretary Kerry to initiate conversations regarding the financial risks and potential opportunities related to climate change."

The state officials signing the letter collectively manage more than $600 billion in assets in state treasuries, pension funds and other government accounts, according to publicly available financials and information provided by the state treasurer offices.

Those states work with large financial institutions to invest and grow those funds, to support state spending and retirement payments to former workers.
Even for sizable investment banks, such funds can be some of their largest accounts.

Do Republicans know that it is the free market economy that is mainly killing coal. Natural Gas is cheaper, and greener. I think this has to has more to do with the Republicans and their fake populism. The coal mines bygone era. Where a high school dropout can go to the mines, put in a days worth of work and get paid a living wage. Those days are gone now. This is why we should have free 2 year community collage so people can learn a new trade.

...die at 50 years old plagued by work related illnesses...

I'm all for living wage good jobs for people with nothing more than a high school education but not at the cost of their own health and bodies and no it's not 'they're choice', if it were these jobs going away wouldn't matter. This is my big hang up in the fight over coal jobs. They're not good jobs. They pay well but not enough to compensate for the health toll.

[Zurkerx]

Also, apparently Trump is a Brady fan, and reportedly tried to end the Spygate probe of New England Patriots by offering a bribe to then Senator Arlen Specter- that's a name I haven't heard in a long time.

Also, Prosecutors in NY investigating Trump tell at least one witness to prepare for grand jury testimony.

I just read another similar article on Trump, you guys don't think the Procesutors investigating Trump, are biased, partisan, anti Republicans, anti Trump Persons?

For the most part, we don't. If Trump is indicted and charged, he will tried by a jury of his peers. We'll let justice take its course on that.

States threaten to pull business from banks which don't fund coal

More than a dozen Republican state treasurers are threatening to pull assets from large financial institutions if they agree to decarbonize their lending and investment portfolios, Axios has learned.

The Biden administration — led by special presidential climate envoy John Kerry — has leaned on the banks to help reduce U.S. carbon emissions. That's prompted GOP lawmakers to criticize efforts to "de-bank" fossil fuel firms. The treasurers collectively control hundreds of billions worth of assets.

Fifteen of them, led by coal-heavy West Virginia, say they're prepared to use this financial muscle to push back.
The effort includes treasurers from other states with large energy industry presences such as North Dakota, Kentucky, Pennsylvania and Oklahoma.

The state officials sent a letter on Tuesday to Kerry, who's leading the administration's efforts to enlist banks in its climate policy fight.
"We intend to put banks and financial institutions on notice of our position, as we urge them not to give in to pressure from the Biden administration to refuse to lend to or invest in coal, oil and natural gas companies," the officials wrote.
In an interview with Axios, West Virginia state Treasurer Riley Moore said he was prepared to terminate contracts with banks that pull back their fossil fuel industry lending in response to administration pressure.
"Frankly, it is not fair for the people of West Virginia to allow a bank to handle our money when they're diametrically opposed to our way of life," Moore said.
What they're saying: Moore called the issue "a matter of life and death for my people."

He said coal and gas operators in his state have reported difficulties obtaining financing from banks blaming pressure from the Biden administration to try to "green" their portfolios.
"If you just cut these guys off at the knees — gas and coal in a state like West Virginia — and they can no longer conduct their business ... it is going to destroy us," Moore said. He cited the industries' heavy jobs footprint and contributions to the state's tax base.
"At no point has Secretary Kerry pressured financial institutions into making commitments," a State Department spokesperson said in an emailed statement. "On the contrary, many financial institutions have reached out to Secretary Kerry to initiate conversations regarding the financial risks and potential opportunities related to climate change."

The state officials signing the letter collectively manage more than $600 billion in assets in state treasuries, pension funds and other government accounts, according to publicly available financials and information provided by the state treasurer offices.

Those states work with large financial institutions to invest and grow those funds, to support state spending and retirement payments to former workers.
Even for sizable investment banks, such funds can be some of their largest accounts.

Do Republicans know that it is the free market economy that is mainly killing coal. Natural Gas is cheaper, and greener. I think this has to has more to do with the Republicans and their fake populism. The coal mines bygone era. Where a high school dropout can go to the mines, put in a days worth of work and get paid a living wage. Those days are gone now. This is why we should have free 2 year community collage so people can learn a new trade.

Ironically, Natural Gas is what is killing the coal industry too. Sure, the regulations don't help but when you have a cheaper, greener, and more efficient energy source, it's bound to put other energy sources like coal out of business.

[Blargoblarg]

https://news.yahoo.com/manchin-no-rush-strike-infrastructure-143244058.html

Democrats cannot seem to realize that the Republicans will never work with them. Competency is lacking amongst Democratic politicians.

Can't get public option either: https://www.newsweek.com/after-joe-bide ... es-1592216

Completely useless party.

They're more than willing to work together to give billions more dollars to the military. For stuff that would actually help the people, no. Almost all the politicians of both major parties in this country are doing the bidding of the rich and the big corporations who donate to their campaigns. America isn't really a democracy anymore, it's a plutocracy.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Hes not pro legal immigration Alberto. He wants ICE to remove you from America too because he's a white nationalist.

Might mention he also lives in Iceland…..

That's Aurem I thought. Not sai.

[The Black Forrest]

Might mention he also lives in Iceland…..

That's Aurem I thought. Not sai.

Ohhhh yeaaa. You are correct. That is Aurem…..

[Greater Cesnica]

He's probably not the reason for why. She chose to associate with him to begin with, and chose to not get an abortion, just as she may have chose to divorce him. This is statuatory rape but fact is, were he only a few months younger or still 17, no one would bat at eye at him dating a 14 year old when it is a 3 year difference and this is essentially a high school senior dating a high school freshman.

If Democratic opponents don't have anything stronger than mere technicality to condemn him with, then nothing is likely to ever come of it. Plenty of people make poorer choices at 18 than they do at 21 for example, and don't magically just become substantially more mature or fully aware of what is what at that point as opposed to when they were 17. The 18+ standard as being the definition for when people are adults is socially defined more than anything else.

Sai are you also in favor of reducing the general age of consent?

[Picairn]

Sai are you also in favor of reducing the general age of consent?

Do you really want to open that can of worms?

[Greater Miami Shores]

I just read another similar article on Trump, you guys don't think the Procesutors investigating Trump, are biased, partisan, anti Republicans, anti Trump Persons?

For the most part, we don't. If Trump is indicted and charged, he will tried by a jury of his peers. We'll let justice take its course on that.

Do Republicans know that it is the free market economy that is mainly killing coal. Natural Gas is cheaper, and greener. I think this has to has more to do with the Republicans and their fake populism. The coal mines bygone era. Where a high school dropout can go to the mines, put in a days worth of work and get paid a living wage. Those days are gone now. This is why we should have free 2 year community collage so people can learn a new trade.

Ironically, Natural Gas is what is killing the coal industry too. Sure, the regulations don't help but when you have a cheaper, greener, and more efficient energy source, it's bound to put other energy sources like coal out of business.

I know you are a Libertarian, ok I think you say most Democrat Leftists as I call them think the Democrat Cyrus Vans and other Prosecutors are going to be fair and impartial to President Trump and by a jury of his peers. According to the leftists, who post our right wing news sites and I think post on leftists news sites, they all strongly hate President Trump and us Proud Republican Trump Supporters, Pro USA, USA, USA, American Nationalist Patriot Citizens of the USA for over 4 Years, these are Facts. They say President Trump will be convicted and be in jail for the rest of his life, they say they are happy about it, they insult President Trump and us with Trump Cultists, our Messiah, and all kinds of insults. I for one don't insult them back, I just post to them and defend my views and our views, I don't block or put any persons on ignore as all Persons on NS and discord know. I Practice what I Preach with Pride and Honor. I am going to read leftists news sites and post on them from time to time from now on.

[The Reformed American Republic]

Sai are you also in favor of reducing the general age of consent?

Do you really want to open that can of worms?

We can't discuss that here. It's against the rules.

/ not a mod.

[Saiwania]

Sai are you also in favor of reducing the general age of consent?

This topic isn't allowed on this website from what I can tell, so I'm going no further in terms of discussion along this line. I gave my opinion only on what was relevant to what is happening with the Republican candidate running against Liz Cheney with regards to his past, and that should be sufficiently on topic. My contention is that it isn't so black and white in terms of ethics unless one were to adopt a purely Legalist perspective. Its out of context nitpicking over what was essentially a high school senior dating a high school freshman and that perhaps it went farther than intended in private.

We have to take into account that age 18 is a transitory age from child to adulthood and that perhaps a great many people fail to immediately be perfectly responsible and do all due diligence like they're supposed to after turning from 17 to 18. The law says one thing, but how society really treats it is another in terms of it it gets enforced or not. I certainly hardly felt any different in terms of mental faculties or capabilities when I was 17 but was 18 the very next day when I remember back to that time. The most likely case is that it was an "open secret" that most didn't object to where he lived at the given time and place.

[Postauthoritarian America]

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/555465-former-va-sen-john-warner-dies-at-94

Former Virginia Senator John Warner has passed away aged 94.

Lived a long life.

Boned Liz Taylor too.

[The Reformed American Republic]

https://news.yahoo.com/manchin-no-rush-strike-infrastructure-143244058.html

Democrats cannot seem to realize that the Republicans will never work with them. Competency is lacking amongst Democratic politicians.

Can't get public option either: https://www.newsweek.com/after-joe-bide ... es-1592216

Completely useless party.

They're more than willing to work together to give billions more dollars to the military. For stuff that would actually help the people, no. Almost all the politicians of both major parties in this country are doing the bidding of the rich and the big corporations who donate to their campaigns. America isn't really a democracy anymore, it's a plutocracy.

That's too charitable. It's a Kleptocracy. It's sad to see my country reduced to such a state, but it is true. Corporations loot the treasury, so we are ruled by thieves.

[Zurkerx]

For the most part, we don't. If Trump is indicted and charged, he will tried by a jury of his peers. We'll let justice take its course on that.



Ironically, Natural Gas is what is killing the coal industry too. Sure, the regulations don't help but when you have a cheaper, greener, and more efficient energy source, it's bound to put other energy sources like coal out of business.

I know you are a Libertarian, ok I think you say most Democrat Leftists as I call them think the Democrat Cyrus Vans and other Prosecutors are going to be fair and impartial to President Trump and by a jury of his peers. According to the leftists, who post our right wing news sites and I think post on leftists news sites, they all strongly hate President Trump and us Proud Republican Trump Supporters, Pro USA, USA, USA, American Nationalist Patriot Citizens of the USA for over 4 Years, these are Facts. They say President Trump will be convicted and be in jail for the rest of his life, they say they are happy about it, they insult President Trump and us with Trump Cultists, our Messiah, and all kinds of insults. I for one don't insult them back, I just post to them and defend my views and our views, I don't block or put any persons on ignore as all Persons on NS and discord know. I Practice what I Preach with Pride and Honor. I am going to read leftists news sites and post on them from time to time from now on.

Well, in selecting a jury, the defense will have a say to ensure there is an impartial jury as possible: that's how juries are generally formed. Whether Trump is indicted, charged, and convicted remains to be seen but it will be a blockbuster case. As for everything else you said, while the discord could be better and the partisan tension doesn't help, arguments do need to be made better, especially on the Trump side. Nothing wrong with your views, but you have to defend them and debate them well: saying the same thing over and over as a Proud Trump supporter doesn't make your case strong. Just advice.

[Kowani]

More legal troubles for Amazon...

Amazon is violating the law by pressuring warehouse employees to work at speeds that exacerbate injuries without adequate time to recover, state safety regulators concluded earlier this month after an inspection of the commerce giant’s DuPont, Pierce County, fulfillment center.

Regulators found a “direct connection” between the incidence of injuries at the warehouse and Amazon’s expectation that warehouse employees “maintain a very high pace of work” or else face discipline.

“The employer’s current approach has resulted in hazardous exposures in the workplace,” the citation states.

The inspection’s findings complicate the company’s effort to brand itself “Earth’s Safest Place to Work” and validate what Amazon employees have said for years: Amazon’s requirement that employees keep up with hourly targets for tasks like unloading pallets, stowing merchandise and packing boxes has created an injury crisis at the retail behemoth’s hundreds of U.S. warehouses.

Muscle, joint and nerve injuries caused by the repetitive rhythms of the warehouse have left some Amazon employees without work and in constant pain. Employees unable to meet the targets — known in Amazon parlance as “making rate” — can be fired.

An investigation last year by Reveal from The Center for Investigative Reporting and published by The Seattle Times found that Amazon misled the public and lawmakers about the extent of injuries at its warehouses. Workers at Amazon fulfillment centers were getting seriously hurt at rates more than double the industry average, Reveal found, with workers at Amazon’s DuPont facility injured at a higher rate than at any other large Amazon warehouse in the U.S. Reveal’s reporting, in part, prompted the inspection by Washington’s Department of Labor and Industries, according to files obtained by Reveal and The Seattle Times. The agency is the state counterpart of the federal Occupational Safety and Health Administration. This type of citation is rare and significant, said Debbie Berkowitz, a former federal OSHA official and current director of the worker health and safety program at the National Employment Law Project.

“This is groundbreaking. It is the first time that OSHA has found the company in violation of the law for failing to protect workers because of their incredibly high-paced jobs,” Berkowitz said. “It would be in Amazon’s interest to really start implementing real safety programs, not just public relations efforts.”

The inspection, which was conducted in January, resulted in a $7,000 fine, according to a copy of the agency’s assessment. The amount is the maximum for a serious citation, according to LNI spokesperson Tim Church.

Though Amazon often touts its safety initiatives in response to criticism, the citation states that the company failed to follow its own ergonomics program.

The workplace regulator also found that Amazon “did not implement everything reasonably necessary” to protect workers from muscle and joint injuries. It found workers repeatedly lift loads of up to 49 pounds by hand, and use highly repetitive motions to unpack and pack items. The company is also required to take steps to lessen the risk of injuries at the warehouse. The agency recommended a list of changes, including setting the pace of work based on an ergonomic risk analysis. It said Amazon must submit a detailed written plan for fixing the problem and provide quarterly updates on its progress.

Amazon spokesperson Kelly Nantel said the company intends to appeal the citation.

“Nothing is more important than the health and safety of our teams,” Nantel said in a statement.

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Amazon declined to answer specific questions, but said it continues to invest in safety training and education programs and is seeing improvements through programs such as guided wellness exercises and changing workstation design.

In the wake of a high-profile, though ultimately unsuccessful, union drive at an Amazon facility in Alabama spurred in part by workers’ safety concerns, Amazon has said it’s focusing renewed attention on workplace injuries.

The company last week committed to halving injury rates at its warehouses, part of Amazon founder Jeff Bezos’ recent commitment to turn Amazon into “Earth’s Best Employer and Earth’s Safest Place to Work.” Amazon has rolled out a suite of new safety programs that it says have been proven in pilot programs to lower injury rates. They include “AmaZen” mindfulness exercises and signs encouraging healthy eating. None of Amazon’s publicized safety initiatives, however, address the core issue driving the injuries: the pace of warehouse work. Amazon has previously touted its investment in workplace safety and what it says is a strong record of keeping workers healthy, but injury rates at Amazon fulfillment centers rose between 2016 and 2019, Reveal found.

At the heart of the injury toll at Amazon’s warehouses was the company’s relentless focus on speeding processes to get more packages to customers as quickly as possible, Reveal’s reporting showed. Injuries were higher at robotic warehouses and spiked during peak periods such as Prime Day.

In Washington, Amazon workers were getting hurt so often that state regulators last year decided to charge the company a higher rate on its workers’ compensation premiums than other warehouse operators. The risk of working in an Amazon facility, regulators found, was higher even than working in the historically hazardous logging or meatpacking industries. During the January inspection, some workers at the DuPont warehouse told inspectors that they were still expected to make rate even when injured. While some supervisors will allow injured workers to move to less strenuous jobs, other injured workers are told to “take a pill” and keep working, multiple employees reported.

“They put pressure on you to make #’s for the day,” an inspector recorded one Amazon worker, who reported having trouble keeping up because of carpal tunnel syndrome, saying in an interview. “I’ve thought about leaving because of injuries.”

Amazon’s rate expectations are geared towards the company’s youngest, fittest workers, another employee told the inspector: “I’m 56 years old. I need work but I don’t want to get hurt.”

[Thermodolia]

massive snipage

Ok dude heres an example of how your posts could look like:

I know you are a Libertarian, ok I think you say most Democrat Leftists as I call them, think Cyrus Vans and other Prosecutors are going to be fair and impartial to President Trump and by a jury of his peers. According to the leftists, they all strongly hate President Trump and us Trump Supporters for over 4 Years, these are Facts.

They say President Trump will be convicted and be in jail for the rest of his life, they say they are happy about it, they insult President Trump and us with Trump Cultists and all kinds of insults. I for one don't insult them back, I just post to them and defend my views and our views, I don't block or put any persons on ignore as all Persons on NS and discord know. I Practice what I Preach with Pride and Honor.

I am going to read leftists news sites and post on them from time to time from now on.

Minimal editing has made your post much more readable.

[Thermodolia]

More legal troubles for Amazon...

Amazon is violating the law by pressuring warehouse employees to work at speeds that exacerbate injuries without adequate time to recover, state safety regulators concluded earlier this month after an inspection of the commerce giant’s DuPont, Pierce County, fulfillment center.

Regulators found a “direct connection” between the incidence of injuries at the warehouse and Amazon’s expectation that warehouse employees “maintain a very high pace of work” or else face discipline.

“The employer’s current approach has resulted in hazardous exposures in the workplace,” the citation states.

The inspection’s findings complicate the company’s effort to brand itself “Earth’s Safest Place to Work” and validate what Amazon employees have said for years: Amazon’s requirement that employees keep up with hourly targets for tasks like unloading pallets, stowing merchandise and packing boxes has created an injury crisis at the retail behemoth’s hundreds of U.S. warehouses.

Muscle, joint and nerve injuries caused by the repetitive rhythms of the warehouse have left some Amazon employees without work and in constant pain. Employees unable to meet the targets — known in Amazon parlance as “making rate” — can be fired.

An investigation last year by Reveal from The Center for Investigative Reporting and published by The Seattle Times found that Amazon misled the public and lawmakers about the extent of injuries at its warehouses. Workers at Amazon fulfillment centers were getting seriously hurt at rates more than double the industry average, Reveal found, with workers at Amazon’s DuPont facility injured at a higher rate than at any other large Amazon warehouse in the U.S. Reveal’s reporting, in part, prompted the inspection by Washington’s Department of Labor and Industries, according to files obtained by Reveal and The Seattle Times. The agency is the state counterpart of the federal Occupational Safety and Health Administration. This type of citation is rare and significant, said Debbie Berkowitz, a former federal OSHA official and current director of the worker health and safety program at the National Employment Law Project.

“This is groundbreaking. It is the first time that OSHA has found the company in violation of the law for failing to protect workers because of their incredibly high-paced jobs,” Berkowitz said. “It would be in Amazon’s interest to really start implementing real safety programs, not just public relations efforts.”

The inspection, which was conducted in January, resulted in a $7,000 fine, according to a copy of the agency’s assessment. The amount is the maximum for a serious citation, according to LNI spokesperson Tim Church.

Though Amazon often touts its safety initiatives in response to criticism, the citation states that the company failed to follow its own ergonomics program.

The workplace regulator also found that Amazon “did not implement everything reasonably necessary” to protect workers from muscle and joint injuries. It found workers repeatedly lift loads of up to 49 pounds by hand, and use highly repetitive motions to unpack and pack items. The company is also required to take steps to lessen the risk of injuries at the warehouse. The agency recommended a list of changes, including setting the pace of work based on an ergonomic risk analysis. It said Amazon must submit a detailed written plan for fixing the problem and provide quarterly updates on its progress.

Amazon spokesperson Kelly Nantel said the company intends to appeal the citation.

“Nothing is more important than the health and safety of our teams,” Nantel said in a statement.

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Amazon declined to answer specific questions, but said it continues to invest in safety training and education programs and is seeing improvements through programs such as guided wellness exercises and changing workstation design.

In the wake of a high-profile, though ultimately unsuccessful, union drive at an Amazon facility in Alabama spurred in part by workers’ safety concerns, Amazon has said it’s focusing renewed attention on workplace injuries.

The company last week committed to halving injury rates at its warehouses, part of Amazon founder Jeff Bezos’ recent commitment to turn Amazon into “Earth’s Best Employer and Earth’s Safest Place to Work.” Amazon has rolled out a suite of new safety programs that it says have been proven in pilot programs to lower injury rates. They include “AmaZen” mindfulness exercises and signs encouraging healthy eating. None of Amazon’s publicized safety initiatives, however, address the core issue driving the injuries: the pace of warehouse work. Amazon has previously touted its investment in workplace safety and what it says is a strong record of keeping workers healthy, but injury rates at Amazon fulfillment centers rose between 2016 and 2019, Reveal found.

At the heart of the injury toll at Amazon’s warehouses was the company’s relentless focus on speeding processes to get more packages to customers as quickly as possible, Reveal’s reporting showed. Injuries were higher at robotic warehouses and spiked during peak periods such as Prime Day.

In Washington, Amazon workers were getting hurt so often that state regulators last year decided to charge the company a higher rate on its workers’ compensation premiums than other warehouse operators. The risk of working in an Amazon facility, regulators found, was higher even than working in the historically hazardous logging or meatpacking industries. During the January inspection, some workers at the DuPont warehouse told inspectors that they were still expected to make rate even when injured. While some supervisors will allow injured workers to move to less strenuous jobs, other injured workers are told to “take a pill” and keep working, multiple employees reported.

“They put pressure on you to make #’s for the day,” an inspector recorded one Amazon worker, who reported having trouble keeping up because of carpal tunnel syndrome, saying in an interview. “I’ve thought about leaving because of injuries.”

Amazon’s rate expectations are geared towards the company’s youngest, fittest workers, another employee told the inspector: “I’m 56 years old. I need work but I don’t want to get hurt.”

$7,000? Holy shit that’s low.

We should be fining them at least 7% of their income

[The Reformed American Republic]

More legal troubles for Amazon...

Amazon is violating the law by pressuring warehouse employees to work at speeds that exacerbate injuries without adequate time to recover, state safety regulators concluded earlier this month after an inspection of the commerce giant’s DuPont, Pierce County, fulfillment center.

Regulators found a “direct connection” between the incidence of injuries at the warehouse and Amazon’s expectation that warehouse employees “maintain a very high pace of work” or else face discipline.

“The employer’s current approach has resulted in hazardous exposures in the workplace,” the citation states.

The inspection’s findings complicate the company’s effort to brand itself “Earth’s Safest Place to Work” and validate what Amazon employees have said for years: Amazon’s requirement that employees keep up with hourly targets for tasks like unloading pallets, stowing merchandise and packing boxes has created an injury crisis at the retail behemoth’s hundreds of U.S. warehouses.

Muscle, joint and nerve injuries caused by the repetitive rhythms of the warehouse have left some Amazon employees without work and in constant pain. Employees unable to meet the targets — known in Amazon parlance as “making rate” — can be fired.

An investigation last year by Reveal from The Center for Investigative Reporting and published by The Seattle Times found that Amazon misled the public and lawmakers about the extent of injuries at its warehouses. Workers at Amazon fulfillment centers were getting seriously hurt at rates more than double the industry average, Reveal found, with workers at Amazon’s DuPont facility injured at a higher rate than at any other large Amazon warehouse in the U.S. Reveal’s reporting, in part, prompted the inspection by Washington’s Department of Labor and Industries, according to files obtained by Reveal and The Seattle Times. The agency is the state counterpart of the federal Occupational Safety and Health Administration. This type of citation is rare and significant, said Debbie Berkowitz, a former federal OSHA official and current director of the worker health and safety program at the National Employment Law Project.

“This is groundbreaking. It is the first time that OSHA has found the company in violation of the law for failing to protect workers because of their incredibly high-paced jobs,” Berkowitz said. “It would be in Amazon’s interest to really start implementing real safety programs, not just public relations efforts.”

The inspection, which was conducted in January, resulted in a $7,000 fine, according to a copy of the agency’s assessment. The amount is the maximum for a serious citation, according to LNI spokesperson Tim Church.

Though Amazon often touts its safety initiatives in response to criticism, the citation states that the company failed to follow its own ergonomics program.

The workplace regulator also found that Amazon “did not implement everything reasonably necessary” to protect workers from muscle and joint injuries. It found workers repeatedly lift loads of up to 49 pounds by hand, and use highly repetitive motions to unpack and pack items. The company is also required to take steps to lessen the risk of injuries at the warehouse. The agency recommended a list of changes, including setting the pace of work based on an ergonomic risk analysis. It said Amazon must submit a detailed written plan for fixing the problem and provide quarterly updates on its progress.

Amazon spokesperson Kelly Nantel said the company intends to appeal the citation.

“Nothing is more important than the health and safety of our teams,” Nantel said in a statement.

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Amazon declined to answer specific questions, but said it continues to invest in safety training and education programs and is seeing improvements through programs such as guided wellness exercises and changing workstation design.

In the wake of a high-profile, though ultimately unsuccessful, union drive at an Amazon facility in Alabama spurred in part by workers’ safety concerns, Amazon has said it’s focusing renewed attention on workplace injuries.

The company last week committed to halving injury rates at its warehouses, part of Amazon founder Jeff Bezos’ recent commitment to turn Amazon into “Earth’s Best Employer and Earth’s Safest Place to Work.” Amazon has rolled out a suite of new safety programs that it says have been proven in pilot programs to lower injury rates. They include “AmaZen” mindfulness exercises and signs encouraging healthy eating. None of Amazon’s publicized safety initiatives, however, address the core issue driving the injuries: the pace of warehouse work. Amazon has previously touted its investment in workplace safety and what it says is a strong record of keeping workers healthy, but injury rates at Amazon fulfillment centers rose between 2016 and 2019, Reveal found.

At the heart of the injury toll at Amazon’s warehouses was the company’s relentless focus on speeding processes to get more packages to customers as quickly as possible, Reveal’s reporting showed. Injuries were higher at robotic warehouses and spiked during peak periods such as Prime Day.

In Washington, Amazon workers were getting hurt so often that state regulators last year decided to charge the company a higher rate on its workers’ compensation premiums than other warehouse operators. The risk of working in an Amazon facility, regulators found, was higher even than working in the historically hazardous logging or meatpacking industries. During the January inspection, some workers at the DuPont warehouse told inspectors that they were still expected to make rate even when injured. While some supervisors will allow injured workers to move to less strenuous jobs, other injured workers are told to “take a pill” and keep working, multiple employees reported.

“They put pressure on you to make #’s for the day,” an inspector recorded one Amazon worker, who reported having trouble keeping up because of carpal tunnel syndrome, saying in an interview. “I’ve thought about leaving because of injuries.”

Amazon’s rate expectations are geared towards the company’s youngest, fittest workers, another employee told the inspector: “I’m 56 years old. I need work but I don’t want to get hurt.”

$7,000? Holy shit that’s low.

We should be fining them at least 7% of their income

Our regulators just go through the motions now. They've been defanged ages ago.

[Postauthoritarian America]

Sai are you also in favor of reducing the general age of consent?

This topic isn't allowed on this website from what I can tell, so I'm going no further in discussing it. I gave my opinion only on what was relevant to what is happening with the Republican candidate running against Liz Cheney with regards to his past, and that should be sufficiently on topic. My contention is that it isn't so black and white in terms of ethics unless one were to adopt a purely Legalist perspective. Its out of context nitpicking over what was essentially a high school senior dating a high school freshman and that perhaps it went farther than intended in private.

We have to take into account that age 18 is a transitory age from child to adulthood and that perhaps a great many people fail to immediately be perfectly responsible and do all due diligence like they're supposed to after turning from 17 to 18. The law says one thing, but how society really treats it is another in terms of it it gets enforced or not. I certainly hardly felt any different in terms of mental faculties or capabilities when I was 17 but was 18 the very next day when I remember back to that time. The most likely case is that it was an "open secret" that most didn't object to where he lived at the given time and place.

The age of consent in Wyoming is 17. Wyoming, unlike some other states, does not have a "Romeo and Juliet" exception for individuals under the age of consent who are close in age; in any case he was over the age of consent and she under. Age of consent laws exist because people under a certain age cannot be said to exercize anything like a free, informed choice when it comes to things like sex, marriage, reproductive responsibility, etc. That people in their late teens and/or early 20s may be in a "transitional age" is an argument for raising the age of consent, not lowering it.

Anthony Bouchard broke the law; even if he didn't know about it his ignorance is no excuse. Apparently he escaped consequences by marrying the barely-teenager he knocked up. By his own admission he screwed up both her life and the life of their son.

And now he wants to be the candidate of the family values, law and order party. It's fortunate for him -- and otherwise for the state of Wyoming and the nation -- that to have actual positions on issues, a record of responsible service, or other qualities that made for successful candidacies in the past is soooooo 2015. All that is needed in the modern Republican Party is to shout loudest about one's support for Trump, one's hatred for Trump's enemies and one's dedication to reversing the results of the free, fair and fraduless election that sent Trump packing.

[Greater Miami Shores]

I know you are a Libertarian, ok I think you say most Democrat Leftists as I call them think the Democrat Cyrus Vans and other Prosecutors are going to be fair and impartial to President Trump and by a jury of his peers. According to the leftists, who post our right wing news sites and I think post on leftists news sites, they all strongly hate President Trump and us Proud Republican Trump Supporters, Pro USA, USA, USA, American Nationalist Patriot Citizens of the USA for over 4 Years, these are Facts. They say President Trump will be convicted and be in jail for the rest of his life, they say they are happy about it, they insult President Trump and us with Trump Cultists, our Messiah, and all kinds of insults. I for one don't insult them back, I just post to them and defend my views and our views, I don't block or put any persons on ignore as all Persons on NS and discord know. I Practice what I Preach with Pride and Honor. I am going to read leftists news sites and post on them from time to time from now on.

Well, in selecting a jury, the defense will have a say to ensure there is an impartial jury as possible: that's how juries are generally formed. Whether Trump is indicted, charged, and convicted remains to be seen but it will be a blockbuster case. As for everything else you said, while the discord could be better and the partisan tension doesn't help, arguments do need to be made better, especially on the Trump side. Nothing wrong with your views, but you have to defend them and debate them well: saying the same thing over and over as a Proud Trump supporter doesn't make your case strong. Just advice.

I understand your post to me, but there is always the other side of the story, my side of the story and our side of the story. The leftists as I call them do same thing I do all the time, granted I use a very limited vocabulary over and over. But they do the same thing I do all the time, over and over again. Every day on all their posts in one way or another, the Republican are no good, the Republicans hate democracy, the Republicans don't want honest elections, President Trump is guilty and responsible for the virus crisis and they never blame the virus, blame the virus? All my right winger friends strongly agree with me on this point, what a coincidence? President Trump is guilty of Russia Gate. President Trump is guilty of Ukraine Gate, President Trump is guilty of the Democrat prosecutors charges against him. At least a few have posted they want to see him arrested and be behind bars for the rest of his life. President Trump is guilty and responsible for the leftist violence in the Democrat run cities with Democrat Mayors, as Biden and the Democrats charged during the elections. They blame President Trump for everything? They never Post Pro Trump Posts, but they expect me and us to Post anti Trump Posts, I say we are even? I have explained to them many times that we consider President Trump and the other Presidents and Governor I keep posting about as the Greatest American Presidents ever of the USA and the Greatest Governor ever of the USA, these are Facts to us? So we cant strongly criticize him? I think they want me and us to strongly criticize him, where I strongly agree with him, and we strongly agree with him? I have posted 4 Foreign Policy areas where I strongly criticize him, ok fair enough, they say that is mild to all the negative views they have of President Trump, which we strongly disagree with? Many Hate President Trump and his Proud Republican Trump Supporters, Pro USA, USA, USA for over 4 Years, this is a Fact? I have stated President Trump is not a Gentleman and we all know the reasons how? They use more words than I do, but the negative substance of their posts every day, all day on all posts is the same? I can go on and on. I Rest My Case?

I will never say President Trump is no good, President Trump is bad and evil. We will never say President Trump is no good, President Trump is bad and evil? We strongly say President Trump and the other Presidents and Governor I keep posting about are the Greatest American Presidents ever of the USA and the Greatest Governor ever of the USA, these are the Real Reasons we are Trump Cultists, these are Facts to US? I Rest My Case Again?